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181  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 18, 2014, 10:08:53 PM


More really bearish sentiment. Turn at least short-term is likely close.

I agree, although I would hazard a guess to say we'll see another leg down yet.  The real despair only started within the last couple of hours.  Let the manipulator chinese super whales give it a little pump and another slam down on its face.

I hope you will not be astonished. This thing could go lower as most people here expect to.

I putted a bucked with cold water in reach in case this crazy lady is going to outrage.
182  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 18, 2014, 09:44:05 PM
Reading here I start to think: Bitcoin does not need any bears, having such bulls!  Cheesy
Looks like despair is not far away.

I really have to chuckle a bit, as for false interpretation and short to to mid-term skepticism a was called a bear, but looks like being a bear is making strong holding your investment without fear and despair.

C'mon guys, what have you expected? That it would rise without times where the market will shake his participants hard, harder and a lot harder?

Your are venture capitalists! This no government bond.

We're almost there.  I'm guessing we're going to see another four digit dump between now and tomorrow which should really set things off.  Either way, they're not getting my coins.

Prices won't magically shoot up tomorrow or any time soon "just because it's time".

Sweet troll, you are right! It could go to 200, it could go to 100, it could go even to 0. But one thing you are wrong.

If price will go up in the future, it could magically go up, (seemingly) without any reason, same as it's now falling (seemingly) without any reason.
183  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 18, 2014, 09:24:54 PM
Reading here I start to think: Bitcoin does not need any bears, having such bulls!  Cheesy
Looks like despair is not far away.

I really have to chuckle a bit, as for false interpretation and short to to mid-term skepticism a was called a bear, but looks like being a bear is making strong holding your investment without fear and despair.

C'mon guys, what have you expected? That it would rise without times where the market will shake his participants hard, harder and a lot harder?

Your are venture capitalists! This no government bond.
184  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 18, 2014, 04:11:52 PM
Tongue

Thanks. This smiley is very valuable for me.  Cheesy
185  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 18, 2014, 03:45:51 PM
weren't you bears thinking 490-480 was a breaking point which would lead to fast crash to 350?

don't you think it is too early for celebration ?

i'm not celebrating.

just asking

this is indeed the sentiment isn't

Adam? Please, tell me you are joking! You bears? Who is this "you bears"? Is the market driven by a mystery interconnected "you bears"-force and this mystery force (with 1000 heads and one body) is posting here?

I better go out here for a while...
186  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 18, 2014, 03:04:56 PM

I have proposed a partial explanation: starting May/20, a few people got wind of something that made them buy all they could.  Now those people changed their minds, and dumped everything back.  So the price got back to where it was.  Is this so much sillier than the narwhals(*) that people have been discussing here?

(*) a large sea mammal reputed to be a cross between a whale and a unicorn.


That's how I see it, too.

If manipulation is: Clever players making money with bullish overexcitement, then it's heavy manipulated. Agreed. Business as usual, on all markets, not only bitcoin.
187  Economy / Speculation / Re: what should I do, I invested a lot on: August 18, 2014, 02:41:55 PM
hi, I invested a lot at the beginning of this year thinking bitcoin would have risen again as usual, I bought many btc when it was 830 and some after when it was 660. I waited for the pump but things are getting bad. I am wo4ried. I am 26 yo I am not rich and I invested a lot of my savings. I can live without, ok, but they were my savings. What should I do now? is this the end? Will bitcoin rise again at least until 830?

That's hard. You should not have invested in this form. It's even harder to give you some advice now.

In your position I would refuse to sell, waiting and hoping for 830, to load off a heavy part of your holdings. That could sound a bit insane as I would guess if it rises to 830 it will rise more. But it seems that you have invested to much.

It's nearly impossible to give a good advice, as it depends on a lot of factors, starting with your own personality.
If I invest (no matter in what) from start on my investment has gone to 0,00$ (in my mind), that makes strong. But you can't do it that way, if you invest too much.
188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero (XMR) Speculation thread on: August 18, 2014, 02:28:09 PM
BTC is again recovered. Of course you can throw in figures such as $200, $300, talk is cheap. But BTC is not going there. Last year same thing - the lowest bottom was seen long before the final capitulation.

If you check the situation of Monero at the exchange of your choice, there is not much to buy at these levels. Perhaps people are realizing that double hammering an unrelated coin to Bitcoin is not the road to riches.
If only the rest of us had castles to retreat to when we're proven wrong.

I buy or sell on my own decisions.  Of course, there is some influence from others, as building up your decisions can not and should not be a one-mans-world. I get very careful and doubtful when reading from investors that have no castle to retreat to and are highly invested.
I don't know rpielita, but a castle to retreat to is a tiny plus in acknowledgement ;-)
189  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 17, 2014, 06:56:42 AM
Heck, I'm a perma-bull as are others but I take the downs with good humor and understanding.

Mentioning the word "down" and implying "possible" or "understanding", disqualifies you to be a permabull. Sorry, you are a long term bull, not a permabull.

Bullishness (and bearishness) is about the future. Ups and downs are historical facts. There's no use crying over spilled milk but some want to wear sack cloth and ashes and flagellate themselves about it.

(Though you are correct in that I am more of a long term bull. I tend to be a short term bull also though)

Well, I think this board (or this thread) is implying a very exaggerated impression of the market-reality. For sure, there are these extreme types of bulls and bears but at large the market is not black and white, there is a lot of grey and varying. Fortunately, as would not like to live in a world with only two extremes.
190  Economy / Speculation / Re: No more below 500$ Next Stop 1(0)0000$! on: August 16, 2014, 02:41:51 PM
Oh fonzie. You are my favorite bear troll. If you want to be a one these exaggerated bulls, could you not be a bit more innovative? Invent some new form, a more entertaining form?
191  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 16, 2014, 02:25:30 PM
Heck, I'm a perma-bull as are others but I take the downs with good humor and understanding.

Mentioning the word "down" and implying "possible" or "understanding", disqualifies you to be a permabull. Sorry, you are a long term bull, not a permabull.
192  Economy / Speculation / Re: And after this profitable sell-off, this is probably the bottom on: August 16, 2014, 01:35:35 PM
It could form a gartley, but I doubt it. I bought few peanuts of coins, but one should not get overexcited. I think we'll see more down.
193  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 16, 2014, 01:59:07 AM
Seems like people aren't buying this as the bottom. And so the game continues.

Agreed. Can't see their any significant support before ~440,00. If iI were not so tired, lethargic and lazy I would sell a bit and place an order on 450,00. But I'm really bone idle.

194  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 16, 2014, 01:28:05 AM
Yet again she's drunken and weaving. One more and she will trip over her own feet.
195  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 16, 2014, 12:40:29 AM

My average cost per BTC is about $610, including transactional fees..

That's a lot more than I thought. You started to buy all the way up to 1200?

I first started at $1200 on local bitcoin's in November 2013.  My first purchase was 1.24BTC for about $1500... something like that.  How about you?  What's your average BTC costs and your duration for being in the BTC game?  

By accident I heard about Bitcoin at the start of the November explosion. A bought the first small bunch at around ~400. Bought more on the first crash another time at around ~400 and on  the third crash at around ~380. Between these mayor buys I bought a lot peanuts at all prices (except on the really high levels of +900), so my average price should be around ~450.

If you sold some when it was higher you could have used the profits to buy more.

I did this, but only with not further mentionable amounts to buy ice cream for the kids ;-)
196  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 16, 2014, 12:21:18 AM

My average cost per BTC is about $610, including transactional fees..

That's a lot more than I thought. You started to buy all the way up to 1200?

I first started at $1200 on local bitcoin's in November 2013.  My first purchase was 1.24BTC for about $1500... something like that.  How about you?  What's your average BTC costs and your duration for being in the BTC game?  

By accident I heard about Bitcoin at the start of the November explosion. A bought the first small bunch at around ~400. Bought more on the first crash another time at around ~400 and on the third crash at around ~380. Between these mayor buys I bought a lot peanuts at all prices (except on the really high levels of +900), so my average price should be around ~450.
197  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 15, 2014, 11:55:25 PM

My average cost per BTC is about $610, including transactional fees..

That's a lot more than I thought. You started to buy all the way up to 1200?
198  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 15, 2014, 09:51:39 PM


Let me guess? Game of Thrones? I never saw the series but the books are phenomenal.
199  Economy / Speculation / Re: Speculate about this: on: August 15, 2014, 09:05:53 PM
The imaginary trendline, and the absolute basic trendline head to head. One extreme to the other, without any support between both.

I would say: Make things simple, but not that simple that they are stupid.
200  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is more Likely to happen the next couple of months ? on: August 15, 2014, 08:54:29 PM
of course I don't agree to "the crypto is over" thing, but think he addressed solid points.

Reading topics on this subboard makes a really terrible impression to me. Can you see how maniac a lot members are? Can you see it? Not the smallest part of their brain has place for any downward momentum. If you tell them it could go down only 5,00$ they will call you a stupid bear! If you tell them it could go even lower they are able to kill you! They are only shouting, cheering and being astonished when price does not do what it was supposed to do.

Of course, not all people here, but the majority.

We are playing this maniac now in a very small room, where a few nerds and venture capitalists are in. If bitcoin will proceed his journey, I could imagine that in a couple of years we play this game of maniac at least once globally.

Can you imagine where the price will go if this disease of blindness to one direction will infect the world? Or only a part of it? The game has just started, and of course it could end very quickly.

But if not...and the journey will proceed there will be a never seen spike, that will let see our current growth like a dwarf, quite likely followed by an equal gigantic decline.
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