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181  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Tutorial: Muun wallet for easy payment of Lightning invoices on: August 06, 2020, 06:03:32 PM


Muun is an excellent Bitcoin wallet project and team based in Argentina. Muun wallet is an innovative hybrid Bitcoin wallet which lets you make standard onchain Bitcoin payments and also let's you make instant & cheap Lightning Network payments, using Submarine Swaps.

Muun is the easiet way for anyone to start using Lightning Network, since it requires zero configuration of any nodes, or opening/closing & funding payment channels. You just scan the LN invoice like any other QR code or paste it in like an address and pay. Muun does have the limitation of not allowing you to receive LN payments, yet, although the feature is in development.

You can find Muun here:
[url=https://muun.com/]https://muun.com/


This is unsponsored, and we are unaffiliated with Muun. We just appreciate their hard work and amazing Bitcoin wallet.


182  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [List] Gift cards providers on: July 30, 2020, 11:38:25 AM
Hello, I'm here again to ask about what I intend to do  Cheesy I plan to do business by buying goods from the US to my country. Cheap gift cards seem insecure, so I plan to use gift cards here to top up and buy things. Although the discount is only from 2-5%, but in business, it is good to make  Cheesy But I wonder, will I be protected or refunded if my account is banned from using your gift card? To be clear, I will buy $ 600 gift card from Bitrefill, top up my account and buy, the account is not new, there was a successful transaction from 1 month ago. I don't know how it will go, but if in the worst case, if my account is banned or I lose that money, is Bitrefill responsible to help me get it back or refund me? It is necessary for me to start my business  Cheesy
EDIT: LOL, I was wrong, Bitrefill only offers 1% discount on Amazon gift card  Cry

Hello, Amazon does not allow to use Gift cards for Business purposes/reselling/dropshipping and also does not allow to redeem the card from another country. But take a look as we have some Amazon competitors in our catalog.
183  Other / Beginners & Help / How to easily acquire Bitcoin on every continent (except Antarctica) on: June 25, 2020, 04:49:50 PM
https://medium.com/@bitrefill/how-to-easily-acquire-bitcoin-on-every-continent-except-antarctica-a3cf8eaac801

How to easily acquire Bitcoin on every continent (except Antarctica)



Today we’ll be taking a look at the fastest and easiest way to buy or sell Bitcoin, no matter where you live. In this post we’ll be taking a look at the most reputable exchanges on each continent. If you’ve been struggling to find out where to buy or sell some BTC, then keep reading.

Choosing the right Bitcoin exchange

New Bitcoiners often struggle with figuring out how to acquire their first Satoshis, but it isn’t as difficult as people make it seem. You just need to figure out a reliable solution that fits your personal situation. It is important for everyone to choose the best exchange provider for their individual needs.

There is no such thing as a perfect exchange, they all have their own sets of tradeoffs. Depending on your circumstances, perhaps none of the top 10 crypto exchanges may be a good option for you. Some exchanges have rigid requirements, some block users outside of their jurisdictions, some are more liberal in their policies, with a riskier user experience.

The more regulated the exchange is, means more protections are in place for users, but they are also more rigid in their verification and compliance procedures. Exchanges that are non-custodial have less verification requirements and offer more freedom, but also have less regulatory protections in place for traders.

We’ll be walking you through some tips and tricks before you cherry-pick your exchange of choice.

1. Are you authorized as a customer?

This is the most important thing to check. You need to make sure you’re eligible to trade at the exchange. Some crypto trading platforms might not even be available to you. Most exchanges have a customer verification process where you need to state which country you are from.

If you state that you are from a country whose citizens/residents are not eligible to trade at the exchange, the exchange won’t even let you sign up for an account. Even if they don’t have stringent verification methods, they may still geo block people from certain jurisdictions to dodge excessive regulatory and compliance requirements, costs, or legal headaches.

If you’re unbanked, unable, or unwilling to provide the intrusive level of personal information some exchanges require for verification, then your best bet is to use a non-custodial, peer to peer exchange.

2. Check Deposit Methods

You also need to check whether the exchange supports the deposit method that you want to use. A lot of exchanges do not accept any deposit with “fiat currencies”. This means that you have to fund your account with cryptocurrency, to be eligible to trade at the exchange. If you don’t already have some crypto, you’ll need to find an alternative way to get some, if you want to trade.

Exchanges often do this because adding fiat currencies increases the regulatory burdens for exchanges. They must deal with an array of banking, financial, and tax compliance issues when they add fiat currencies, which can be avoided when only accepting cryptocurrencies. This can be either a positive, or a negative, depending on your use case.

Typically, if an exchange is custodial, (they hold your money or cryptocurrency for you) or handles fiat currency and deposits, their verification process will be more intense. If an exchange is crypto-only, and/or noncustodial, their verification requirements will be less intrusive. Non-custodial exchanges do require a certain level of proficiency with safely storing your own private keys and coins, however.

3. Check. The. Fees.

You might not even notice the fees, and they seem trivial at first but remember that due to the effect of compound return it can generate massive losses/winnings in the long-term. Fees usually consist of the maker fees and the taker fees.

A trade must pay a ​taker​ fee if the trade order is matched directly against an order already on the order book. These are trades which take liquidity from the order book, hence the name. Since a taker uses the exchange’s liquidity they pay a fee.

A trade earns a ​maker​ fee if the trade order is not matched directly against an order in the books. These are trades which provide liquidity, so they earn the maker fee. Some exchanges are always the maker, so check and see which model the exchange you plan to trade on uses.

A flat fee means it is equally high or low irrespective of whether you are a taker or a maker. The industry average is around 0.25% for takers and slightly less for makers. This means that if you are a taker in an order worth USD 10,000 the exchange takes USD 25 as its fee for executing the trade. But there are also exchanges offering substantially higher or lower fees. Some exchanges charge a whopping 2.00%

Some exchanges have a spread model for fees, which changes in response to liquidity and demand. During peak trading times, the spread fees will be higher than at low trading times. Exchanges that employ a spread fee model, are more common in Forex, or traditional trading exchanges, although they do exist in crypto, too.

Another fee to be aware of is the fees incurred by margin trading, in which a short term loan is issued to allow a trader to take out a leveraged position, which must be paid back with interest. Different exchanges have different rates for margin trading, so be sure to check what the rates are on the exchange you plan on using.

4. Proximity

Bitcoin is unregulated and decentralized, compared to traditional financial markets. However, the landscape is rapidly changing, especially with more institutional investors entering the scene. Many governments want to create regulations around Bitcoin. Since they can’t actually impose anything on the Bitcoin software, they are creating regulatory requirements which affect the businesses providing services around the network.

Therefore, it is important to confirm the geographic location of an exchange due to the differences in prices, in some markets Bitcoin trades at a premium. Additionally, the exchange’s location will determine the laws that need to be followed by traders and its investors. This is important because some trading activities which are illegal in highly regulated jurisdictions, may be perfectly legal in jurisdictions that have a lax regulatory regime.

Exchanges to consider from all 6 inhabited continents

Asia

Binance

Binance is the most popular cryptocurrency exchange worldwide, at the moment. Binance has the most liquidity, and offers a wide variety of trading pairs. Binance has recently begun to offer credit card purchase of cryptocurrencies, and accept fiat deposits and withdrawals. Binance also has a margin trading platform and a decentralized exchange known as Binance DEX. They have a US based platform for US customers, as well. Binance initially started off as an exchange with relaxed customer verification, but they have since transitioned into one of the most demanding in this regard.
Binance

Bitfinex
Bitfinex is a Hong Kong-based exchange that has been one of the top crypto exchanges by volume for years. Bitfinex has a sterling reputation after making their traders whole after the exchange suffered from significant hacks. Bitfinex offers various trading pairs, margin trading, and caters more towards institutional and professional traders, although it is very popular with smaller traders still.
Bitfinex

Africa

Yellow Card
Yellow Card allows anyone to buy with a bank transfer, or ATM card online, and with cash, ATM card or bank transfer from a network of agents, and storefront retailers. With active customers in Nigeria, Botswana, South Africa, and Zimbabwe and several million USD in monthly volume, Yellow Card is one of the largest crypto exchanges in the region as of right now. Africa is one of the regions leading Bitcoin adoption, as many are unbanked and denied financial inclusion.
Yellow Card

Luno
Luno is one of the more popular exchanges in South Africa, but it also operates in a number of additional developing markets, servicing over 3 million customers in 40 nations. Luno offers fiat deposits and withdrawals and a wide variety of trading pairs. They have offices in Cape Town, London, and Singapore. Luno is a solid choice, not just for African Bitcoiners, but also those looking for a crypto exchange in one of the 40 additional developing countries that they support.
Luno

Europe

Bitstamp
Bitstamp is one of the oldest most trusted exchanges in the world. Founded in 2011, it is still one of the most popular exchanges in Europe. Bitstamp was founded in Slovenia, and later moved its operations to the UK, and then to Luxembourg. Bitstamp serves all 28 member nations of the EU, and also offers a US-based platform. Bitstamp’s selection of trading pairs is not as extensive as other exchanges, they only offer Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, Ripple, and Bitcoin Cash trading, although they also allow for fiat deposits and withdrawals.
Bitstamp

Coinbase
While Coinbase is more often associated with N. American crypto traders due to its status as the largest American exchange, it also is one of the most popular destinations for European and UK crypto traders, as well. Coinbase offers a wide variety of crypto trading pairs, staking, custody solutions, and institutional trading for funds and pro traders. Although Coinbase’s fees are higher than other options they offer fiat deposits and withdrawals and many niche crypto services that other exchanges lack.
Coinbase

North America

Kraken
Kraken is an American crypto exchange, based in San Francisco. It has been around since the early days of 2011. Kraken is a popular Bitcoin exchange with Bitcoiners. Kraken has over 4 million clients across almost 200 countries. Kraken offers support in a variety of languages, and also supports fiat deposits and withdrawals. Even though they are based in the US, they offer service to residents of many other nations, including all EU countries and the UK.
Kraken

Cash App
Cash App is Square’s payments platform, it is a mobile app similar to Apple Pay or Zelle, with one key difference. Square’s Cash App is one of the best ways to buy Bitcoin. You can easily purchase right from your phone. Square’s Cash App also lets you set recurring buys, so you can automatically purchase a set amount of Bitcoin, at a regular interval of your choosing. For example, you could set a recurring buy for $200 of Bitcoin every week or month.
Cash App

Bull Bitcoin
Bull Bitcoin is the Bitcoiner’s preferred exchange in Canada. They are a non-custodial option which pioneered the implementation of Wasabi wallet’s Chaumian Coinjoins for all deposits in order to protect user privacy. Bull Bitcoin also offers OTC trading for institutional investors. Bull Bitcoin prides itself on being Canada’s Bitcoin company.
Bull Bitcoin

Bitso
Bitso is the most popular Bitcoin exchange in Mexico, and also offers trading for South American customers with a branch based in Argentina. Bitso offers trading of Bitcoin and 9 other cryptocurrencies. Bitso also has an app which lets its users send peer to peer payments with Bitcoin. Bitso has over 900,000 customers.
Bitso

South America

Ripio, formerly known as Bitpagos, is a financial payments company that provides electronic payment solutions for businesses in Latin America. It serves customers in Argentina, Brazil, Chile, and Ecuador. Ripio also accepts cash payments from over 8,000 convenience stores across Argentina, via Easy Payment or Rapipago. Latin America is another region, like Africa, which is leading the world in Bitcoin adoption due to a high percentage of unbanked people, and high-inflation, developing economies.
Ripio

Buda
Buda is another established South American Bitcoin exchange. Buda offers service to Argentina, Chila, Colombia, and Peru. Buda was founded in 2015 and is one of South America’s most popular Bitcoin exchanges, although they are very limited in trading pairs, with only Bitcoin, Litecoin, Ethereum, and Bitcoin Cash.
Buda

Mercado Bitcoin
Mercado Bitcoin is Brazil’s first and most popular Bitcoin exchange. Founded in 2011, Sao Paulo based Mercado Bitcoin has been the leader in Brazil’s booming Bitcoin market. Mercado Bitcoin has a limited selection of trading pairs, offering Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, Ripple, and Bitcoin Cash. They offer fiat deposits and withdrawals, and the most liquidity in Brazil.
Mercado Bitcoin

Australia

Coinspot
In the land down under, Coinspot is the most popular cryptocurrency exchange. Coinspot has a variety of crypto trading pairs, and also accepts fiat deposits and withdrawals. Coinspot is aimed at beginners who want to start dabbling in crypto trading, although it does have features that veteran traders will feel comfortable with also. Coinspot simplifies the crypto trading experience.
Coinspot

Independent Reserve
Independent reserve is another leading crypto exchange offering crypto trading to Australian Bitcoiners. As an added bonus Independent Reserve also offers trading to Kiwis as well, with a New Zealand branch. They have fiat deposits and withdrawals, and accept many popular Aussie payment methods. They have a strong selection of trading pairs, although not as extensive as other exchanges. Independent Reserve has a good reputation among traders down under.
Independent Reserve

International p2p exchanges

Bisq
Bisq is the first ever, fully autonomous and decentralized trading platform. It is an app which uses the tor network to connect buyers and sellers, who use Bisq’s escrow system to trade in a private and trust-minimized way. Bisq is run by a Decentralized Autonomous Organization (DAO) which pays volunteers for their contributions to the platform with money generated by the platform’s fee structure. Anyone can use Bisq from anywhere on Earth, just download the app.
Bisq

HodlHodl
HodlHodl is another peer to peer exchange, which like Bisq, employs an escrow system to allow buyers and sellers to connect in a private and trust-minimized way to buy and sell Bitcoin. HodlHodl offers services worldwide, even to places which are usually excluded from the greater world financial system, like Cuba, Venezuela, and Iran.
Hodl Hodl

CoinCola
CoinCola is a Hong Kong-based P2P exchange. They don’t only offer BTC, they also facilitate P2P sales of other popular altcoins. They also offer a multisig escrow to allow users to safely trade cryptocurrency. They have low fees, a variety of payment methods, and even allow you to purchase Bitcoin with gift cards. CoinCola is popular with Bitcoiners in Nigeria, although the business itself is based in Hong Kong.
CoinCola

In Conclusion

These exchanges are by no means the only options, there are many others that are easily found with a search engine. These exchanges listed here are platforms that have a good reputation among traders in their respective regions, they are not fly-by-night washtrading shops, with low liquidity. They are listed here because so far, they have been reputable, up until now.

That being said, always DYOR.

Cryptocurrency exchanges have had a long history of getting hacked, absconding with user funds, pulling exit scams, surprise verification, and other unsavory activities that are realities in unregulated markets. So, always investigate the platform you plan to trade on, before you make a deposit.

Make sure you’re aware of the fee structure, liquidity on the order books, their track record with security and trust issues, the quality of their customer support, etc. Cryptocurrency markets are rapidly becoming more tamed and civilized, but they still have their fair share of similarities with the wild west, even in 2020.

For more in depth information, Cryptowisser provides up-to-date, independent and objective info and reviews on every cryptocurrency exchange in the world. If you found this article helpful, let us know on Twitter, in our Telegram, or our subReddit r/Bitrefill.
184  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitrefill is now a scam! on: June 16, 2020, 05:24:42 PM
Hello, Bitrefill here. You guys did a good job explaining, so I am going to paste the answer I put on the Trustpilot review this user posted:

Hello, your transaction was done from unconfirmed outputs. You shouldn't use a wallet that allows you to spend unconfirmed balance, it's risky for us to accept them with zero conf.
We will see if it's worth to include this requirement detail together with the minimum fee and no RBF.


If someone appreciates Bitrefill and wants to offset his bad review on Trustpilot, it would be very welcome: https://www.trustpilot.com/review/bitrefill.com

Something else. Instead of paying 30 sats per byte like you did, think in using a wallet like muun which is an onchain wallet that allows you to pay lightning invoices via swap, so you will get instant delivery at Bitrefill by paying only 2 or 3 sats per byte.
185  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Presenting Bitrefill's Live on Crypto Video Contest on: April 23, 2020, 02:04:13 PM
Reminder: Saturday April 25th is the cutoff for video submissions to Bitrefill's Living on Crypto Video Contest

Saturday 4/25: final day for video submissions to our "Living on Crypto Video Contest" Get your video in, for a chance to win a $200 USD Bitrefill Balance Card.

Contest Rules: https://twitter.com/bitrefill/status/1248296654882701314
186  Local / Marketplace (India) / Grocery door to door - Bitrefill India Telegram - Living on Crypto in India on: April 21, 2020, 12:51:49 PM
Bitrefill India Newsletter is out!
Grocery door to door with Bitcoin - Bitrefill India Telegram group - Living on Crypto in India

https://mailchi.mp/930dd7267eb6/bitrefill-india-news-grocery-door-to-door-with-crypto-new-telegram-group
187  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: ¿Solución basada en BTC y criptomonedas para personas sin cuenta bancaria? on: April 17, 2020, 05:51:14 PM
Buenas! en Bitrefill hemos agregado las tarjetas Bitrefill Balance EUR y USD, con la cual pueden mantener un saldo estable que no expira nunca, sin necesidad de KYC, y con el cual pueden comprar cualquier producto de los más de 2500 que tenemos actualmente y los cientos que agregamos mes a mes. https://blog.bitrefill.com/announcing-the-new-bitrefill-balance-cards-da14f0fba353
188  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [List] Gift cards providers on: April 17, 2020, 05:36:06 PM
The amount of cards for Bitrefill can be updated to 2500+  Wink
189  Economy / Games and rounds / Presenting Bitrefill's Live on Crypto Video Contest on: April 09, 2020, 05:57:02 PM

Bitrefill Video Contest!
Submit a video themed “How I live on crypto with Bitrefill” for a chance to win a $200 Bitrefill Balance Gift Card.
More information:
https://bit.ly/br_vid_contest
Bitrefill makes it easy to purchase gift cards and mobile refills with Bitcoin.

190  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is Expedia still accepting Bitcoin? on: January 14, 2020, 11:33:38 AM
Hello,

here you can see our Travel offering for every country or region: https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/travel.

Besides the tourist package aggregators we have everywhere, we sell some Airline cards to buy directly with them, for example in the USA Delta and Southwest, in Australia Jetstar.
191  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Buying online with crypto? Its worthed? on: January 06, 2020, 11:55:31 AM
At https://www.bitrefill.com/travel we have many options.

Our questions to you are:

Are you OK with giving your bank and credit/debit card processor's employees information about your travel?
and are you OK to give your banking/card information to travel agencies?
192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Things you could purchase with Cryptocurrencies (Opera Merc) on: December 18, 2019, 10:13:41 PM

Sweet, i noticed that you can also buy "Hotels.com USD" -cards, does anyone know if i can use these in Europe or are these gift cards regional somehow. I know that i can rent places from Europe in hotels.com but just were wondering the usd part.

Yes! you can use hotels.com everywhere, you will need to select US/USD in the region picker above in order to get the gift card option to appear at checkout, but other than that, normal use.

We some some Europe specific Cards too, this is the whole Travel catalog: https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/worldwide/travel

Except that's not true. I checked and i can't use hotels.com gift cards in Finland for example, they are not on the list when i try to make a payment and i can't even buy hotels.com gift cards in Europe. So this is for us customers only. They were a thing in the past in the eu too, but it's not possible to use them anymore.

So you might want to remove them from your Finland section -> https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/finland/travel/?hl=en&s=0

Hey, I personally use Hotels.com frequently in Europe. They are a global giftcard, it's in Finland and everywhere. You just need to select US/USD in the Region picker and follow the instructions we include with the voucher.
There are exceptions, for example some hotels do not accept giftcard payment.
193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Things you could purchase with Cryptocurrencies (Opera Merc) on: December 17, 2019, 01:58:00 PM

Sweet, i noticed that you can also buy "Hotels.com USD" -cards, does anyone know if i can use these in Europe or are these gift cards regional somehow. I know that i can rent places from Europe in hotels.com but just were wondering the usd part.

Yes! you can use hotels.com everywhere, you will need to select US/USD in the region picker above in order to get the gift card option to appear at checkout, but other than that, normal use.

We some some Europe specific Cards too, this is the whole Travel catalog: https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/worldwide/travel
194  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [List] Gift cards providers on: December 17, 2019, 01:27:46 PM
after that experience, i started using bitrefill for amazon.com gift cards. they are unfortunately the most expensive option by far. they charge an extra 2% on everything. they do have the added bonus of processing with zero confirmations (make sure not to use RBF though!) if you pay with 6+ sat/byte fee rate, so i always use them when i'm in a hurry. however, i'm getting sick of being overcharged every time so i might go back to the bitpay wallet.

I've noticed this too after using them. As far as I know they are the one and only gift card provider that sticks a premium on top though I guess almost all others use Bitpay's exchange rate. It kind of negates the point. If you have a decent exchange you may as well use that as it'll almost certainly be cheaper than 2%.

For another 0.5% I can use a Coinbase debit card which leaves me with money to spend elsewhere should I wish it. I'd choose that instead.

There are different strategies, we decided to compete based on service and global availability. However, we are constantly trying to get new sources and setting the lowest prices posible.

People that do not care to leak personal data, shopping with a debit card or buying Gift Cards from poor track record companies, are not our typical users.
195  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [List] Gift cards providers on: December 17, 2019, 01:12:29 PM
@o_e_l_e_o

@OmegaStarScream
Do you know something about the KYC with Bitrefill? We were talking about it in the French forum and a member showed us that the site has a KYC for amounts above $1500.
However, we tried to buy a gift card from lastminutes.com for a value of $4000 and nothing was specified about it. So there is a KYC or not?

Hello, you can check the daily limits in detail here https://www.bitrefill.com/terms

TLDR, you have a daily limit for Gift Cards of 2500 USD if you don't have an account with us, or 5000 USD if you do. Single orders cannot exceed 2000 USD. Limits can be rised upon customer verification.
196  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: مواقع يمكن التسوق منها بالبيتكوين on: November 26, 2019, 06:28:45 PM
أحببت أن أقوم بشراء بعض المنتوجات من الأمازون الآن بإستخدام كيفتكارد خصوصا في الوقت الحالي هناك تخفيضات مناسبة للبعض المنتوجات و لكن المشكلة تكمن في النقاش المتداول حاليا بخصوص شراء كيفت كارت مسروقة هذا جعلني أتراجع لأني لا أحب أن أفقد أموالي صراحة. هل أستطيع الحصول على معلومات أفضل لتساعدني في إقتناء بعض القطع؟ الوقت يمر لم يبقى الكثير Sad

لأسباب عديدة معروضة هنا ، يعد شراء بطاقات الهدايا المستعملة مخاطرة كبيرة. إذا كان ذلك ممكنًا ، فحاول شراء بطاقات جديدة من بائعين موثوق بهم.
الأمازون على وجه الخصوص حساسة للغاية وسوف تغلق حسابك على أي مشكلة.
حاول تجنب:
* استخدام بطاقات الهدايا للولايات المتحدة الأمريكية لشحن / شراء / إرسال في بلدان أخرى غير الولايات المتحدة الأمريكية
* استخدام VPN أثناء الطلب
* استخدام بطاقات الهدايا الأجنبية لحساباتهم المحلية
* القيام دروبشيبينغ
* استخدام بطاقة هدية على حساب جديد تمامًا
197  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: مواقع يمكن التسوق منها بالبيتكوين on: November 26, 2019, 06:10:24 PM
جيد انه تم رفع الموضوع , كونه الآن بدأت عروض البلاك فرايداي هل يوجد أحد هنا يعلم عن مواقع موثوقة تبيع بطاقات ستيم مثلاً أو حسابات نتفلكس وتقبل البتكوين مع التخفيض أيضاً ؟
قسم الدجيتال غود حالياً تغير جداً , في السابق كنت أجد العديد من الباعة الذي يمكن الوثوق بهم بقليل من الدولارات ولكن الآن لا أجد سوا حسابات جديدة كلياً تروج لمنتوجاتها وتتلقى تقييمات من حسابات جديدة أيضاً

في حال عدم وجود موقع هل تعاملتم هنا في المنتدى مع أحد الباعة الذين يؤمنون مثل هذه الأشياء مؤخراً ؟

جربت بيترفل لبطاقات ستيم ولكن السعر فيها أكثر من السعر الحقيقي يعني عملياً المستهلك يدفع أكثر عندما يدفع بالبتكوين , هي خيار جيد لمن ليس لديه بديل عن البتكوين ولكن لاتزال خيار غير مثالي
حتى شحن رصيد الموبايل فيها كان السعر مبالغ فيه جداً بالنسبة لبلدي حيث كنت ادفع تقريباً ضعف السعر الذي سأدفعه هنا ولكن طبعاً كنت استعملهم فقط في الأوقات التي لا يمكنني فيها الوصول الى احد المتاجر 

في أي بلد تستخدمون Bitrefill؟ نحن نحاول دائمًا الحصول على موردين جدد وخفض الأسعار. كانت Steam أول بطاقة هدايا لدينا ولكن الآن لدينا الآلاف!
198  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Where can I buy fragrancce with bitcoin? on: November 21, 2019, 10:17:23 AM
Why not have a look on https://spending-bitcoin.com/ and see what stores you can find? You've not said what country you are in, but a quick search on there has found multiple stores in various countries which sell perfumes and fragrances.

US - https://www.nuciya.com/natural-bath-and-body-products/fragrance
Germany - https://soulobjects.de/collections/soul-perfumes-soulsisters
UK - https://uk.lush.com/fragrance

You could also look at bitpay's directory (https://bitpay.com/directory) for other sites, such as https://fancy.com/shop/womens/beauty/fragrance.

Bitrefill also stocks gift cards for Fresh (Australia), Sephora, Macy's, and Nordstrom (all US). There's always Amazon gift cards as well.

Hello, to that list of Bitrefill cards let me add JC Penney, Kohls, Saks. Take a look here: https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/usa/ecommerce
199  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to use Bitcoin's Lightning Network? on: October 30, 2019, 04:23:19 PM
I've never used the Lightning Network before, as I've been mostly conducting my transactions via the main Bitcoin blockchain. However, I've became interested in learning more about the Lightning Network since it's the future of micropayments. I may have been a long time in crypto, but I'm still relatively new to making LN payments.

I seem to be a little confused on how to make a deposit in my LN wallet. I don't know if it's possible to use the same Bitcoins (BTC) for LN transactions or do I need to convert my BTC into another type of coin suitable for the LN? How does it work? I already have the Eclair LN Wallet installed on my phone, but I don't want to deposit real BTC yet until I clear my doubts about which coin does the LN use.

Any suggestions or recommendations on how to get started sending lightning payments will be greatly appreciated. Smiley

Hey, you can check Bitrefill's wallet list above, but I suggest you to start with bluewallet as it is both a non custodial bitcoin onchain wallet and a custodial lightning wallet, so you can send some BTC from the wallet itself to Lightning. Using that lightning wallet is convenient as the node is managed by them, but of course it is for your petty cash only. Other similar option is wallet of satoshi, and that one supports Bitrefill Thor services https://www.bitrefill.com/thor-lightning-network-channels that you can use for topup or for receiving capacity.

Once you learn more and get more experienced you can move to non-custodial wallets if you prefer to have total control. By the way at Bitrefill we give a 2% discount paying with LN. Good luck!
200  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: ¿Solución basada en BTC y criptomonedas para personas sin cuenta bancaria? on: October 11, 2019, 06:23:54 PM
Que opinas de Bitrefill? Permite pagar con bitcoin en varios lugares  Wink

https://www.bitrefill.com/

Es un servicio que parece muy interesante, sobre todo por su integración de LN. No lo he probado aún.

Sin embargo, tiene un problema que tienen casi todos los servicios centralizados: Si el servicio está a cargo de custodiar Bitcoins (u otras criptomonedas) en muchos países legalmente se requiere que usen KYC y técnicas antilavado. Por eso, justo para el paquete para  los "no bancarizados" estoy tratando de coleccionar servicios que no requieren custodia.

Bitrefill, según leí, tiene servicios con custodia (que requieren KYC a partir de cierto límite) y en otros casos simplemente opera como procesador de pagos (por ejemplo para la recarga de cuentas de teléfono), lo que no requiere KYC.

Buenas! Bitrefill se puede usar sin crearse cuenta, tan solo tienes que dar un email (cualquier email) para darte el recibo y comunicarnos en caso de necesitar soporte al cliente. La cuenta Bitrefill se puede usar para pre-depositar BTC y luego hacer muchas transacciones sin pagar la comisión de red, pero también requiere de email unicamente. Bitrefill solo solicitaría datos personales si quieres comprar volúmenes muy grandes para revender, más de 1000 USD por día.

Aceptamos BTC, ETH, DASH, LTC, DOGE y ofrecemos un 2% de descuento pagando con Lightning.

Muy buen post! estamos tratando de solucionar los mismos probemas. Estén atentos que estamos agregando gift cards en Latinoamérica, pronto será mucho más fácil vivir con crypto Wink
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