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181  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Zero sum games on: May 14, 2012, 02:08:45 AM
The problem is governments and media blaming speculators for the financial crisis. People believe the propaganda. Speculation per se was never the problem.
+1
Manipulation is the problem, like the FED.
It's drives me nuts every time I hear some politician blaming speculators for the prices of this or that.
182  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Zero sum games on: May 14, 2012, 02:01:01 AM
If you sell $100,000 worth of bitcoin in the market right now, you'll push the price lower by at least $0.10.  That is not good for commerce.  So, I personally would like to see as much trading activity in Bitcoin as possible.  If leveraged trading brings in more speculators then I'm all for it.  I would love to see trading volumes increase 100x and exchange commissions get cut to 1/10th of what they currently are.
183  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm leaving Bitcoin on: May 13, 2012, 08:00:07 PM
Good luck-- I share your view that coming up with better ways of playing zero-sum games is not the way to make the world a better place.

A lot of us share that view. Bitcoin, for unfortunate reasons, has attracted a good number of people who seem to believe that trading is a good way for people to "make money".

It doesn't make the world a better place. Not on Wall Street, not in Bitcoin. I'm somewhat surprised Zhou shared that view, and very pleasantly surprised that you do Gavin.

Zhou - I'm sure you'll go on to create awesome. Good luck!
Trading tools are essential to any currency and Bitcoin is no different.  If you think Bitcoin can be successful without efficient markets for trading Bitcoin, you are mistaken.  While the traders trying to trade market swings are certainly in competition with others trying to do the same, in the process they create deep, liquid and efficient markets for the rest of us trying to use Bitcoin to improve commerce.

P.S.  The only thing I regret about Bitcoinica is that there weren't a handful of others competing with them…I think there's no question they were making substantial profits for themselves simply because they were the only option available for leveraged trading…which shows there was demand for what they were offering and enabled them to command what, in my opinion, were very large spreads.
184  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: difficulty skyrocketing and price stagnant on: May 12, 2012, 08:52:44 PM
I still think most miners are mining to mine and dump with no long term outlook/prospect.
Dark operators of botnets leeching off of Bitcoin only promotes the need for legit miners to short their coins to recoup costs at higher difficulties.

Get rid of botnets.

Easier said then done, I'm afraid.
It will take care of itself…as more and more mining starts to be done with specialized hardware (that is much more efficient than GPUs), botnets will become irrelevant (they might still be operated, but they'll quickly diminish in terms of their percentage of mining activity).
185  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Confession's of a Bitcoin Botnet coder... on: May 12, 2012, 12:56:41 AM
I'm tell you guys, this stuff is going to be the end of bitcoin.
I think you have it backward…this stuff is going to be the end of the traditional banking system.  At least with Bitcoin you have a fighting chance of securing your assets.  With the traditional banking system, the theft just gets subsidized and no one cares or will care until entire companies (or nations that bail them out) start to collapse.  Unfortunately, by that time, it will be too late for that system.  I find it interesting that these criminals are using a superior (and ultimately less vulnerable) system like bitcoin to exploit an antiquated system that is rife with insecurities.
186  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [???] BitPak pulled from the AppStore ? on: May 11, 2012, 01:06:06 PM
The good news is that Apple's model is not sustainable in the long run.  Reviewing/approving every single app is incredibly wasteful.  If you give them the benefit of the doubt, you can understand why they do it…they wanted to make sure the iPhone experience didn't become a cesspool of viruses, malware and spyware ridden garbage.  The app store approach is a non optimal, but practical way to solve that issue.  The operating system technology in iOS, Windows, Android, etc is 40+ years old and wasn't designed with today's internet in mind.  It is possible to solve those issues without an app store, but you'd first need to rewrite the OS from the ground up with these modern issues in mind.  In the long run that will happen and we can all have our cake and eat it too.
187  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [???] BitPak pulled from the AppStore ? on: May 09, 2012, 03:09:50 PM
Apple needs to open up the camera functions to webapps, just like they have opened up the geo-location and other features.  Once they allow the camera, it will make bitcoin web-apps much easier to function.  Copy/Paste is a killer for any practical bitcoin use.  Scan and Send is a must if bitcoin is going to be more widely accepted.  It works perfectly fine for me on the blockchain app now.  In fact, I used it to pay at Whiskey Dicks last week.  just scan the QR code and press the send button, that's it.
It's in the works: http://dev.w3.org/2011/webrtc/editor/getusermedia.html
188  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The best new Bitcoin idea from China! (MACAU and BITCOINS) on: May 09, 2012, 02:37:53 PM
We've run into similar issues regarding the Chinese being restricted in spending their currency outside their borders (for an entirely different business opportunity).  After some thinking, I came to the conclusion that you need to get a domestic exchange going in China and people like yourself need to start using Bitcoin to buy things from the Chinese (so they can obtain more Bitcoin to use on their local exchanges).  Since Chinese currency isn't very usable outside China, it's unlikely that many people outside China will offer to sell Bitcoins in exchange for Yuan (but maybe speculators will).  So, you need domestic sellers of Bitcoin and for their to be sellers, they need to have Bitcoins to sell.

You don't need to worry about having local btc sellers. People looking for arbitrage opportunities will do the job of moving bitcoins in or out of China as necessary.
And precisely what would such arbitrageurs outside of China do with the Yuan they purchase with their bitcoins?  Normally, the arbitrageur would need to wire/convert the Yuan back into USD and then buy back more bitcoins than they originally sold.  But China has strict controls on such transfers and exchange.  The problems that people in China have with spending their Yuan outside China are exactly the same problems that will impede such arbitrage.  Hence the need to create a domestic exchange of bitcoins for Yuan.

I think there would also be benefits in such an exchange to currency traders that might want trade Yuan against other currencies.  They could sell dollars for bitcoins, send the bitcoins to the Chinese bitcoin exchange, and sell the bitcoins for Yuan to hold in their account.  Then reverse that trade as they see fit.  Given there there are such strict controls on trading Yuan for other currencies on the free market, I bet you could make a fortune doing it if you could do it in large enough quantities…you buy Yuan after interventions force the exchange rate back in line with the USD, then sell as it rises and in advance of another intervention.
189  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [???] BitPak pulled from the AppStore ? on: May 09, 2012, 02:18:25 PM
Just add this to the dozens of reasons I already have to jailbreak my phone.
190  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The best new Bitcoin idea from China! (MACAU and BITCOINS) on: May 09, 2012, 12:25:14 PM
We've run into similar issues regarding the Chinese being restricted in spending their currency outside their borders (for an entirely different business opportunity).  After some thinking, I came to the conclusion that you need to get a domestic exchange going in China and people like yourself need to start using Bitcoin to buy things from the Chinese (so they can obtain more Bitcoin to use on their local exchanges).  Since Chinese currency isn't very usable outside China, it's unlikely that many people outside China will offer to sell Bitcoins in exchange for Yuan (but maybe speculators will).  So, you need domestic sellers of Bitcoin and for their to be sellers, they need to have Bitcoins to sell.

If you start paying some of your Chinese vendors in Bitcoin and find someone to run a domestic exchange, I think that would be a necessary prerequisite to making Bitcoin available to the Chinese for spending when they travel abroad (Macau or elsewhere).  And from what I gather, many Chinese have this problem when traveling and would love to have a way of converting their Yuan into something that is spendable outside China.

Now, there is a 2009 law that makes it illegal in China to use virtual currencies to buy real world goods…and you are skirting around their capital controls…so anyone engaging in this activity in China needs to be aware of the risks involved.
191  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: sharing block chain on: May 09, 2012, 04:24:23 AM
On btrfs filesystem you can copy data directory with 'cp --reflink'. It will create shared copy-on-write snapshot of data, which can be safely used simultaneously by multiple clients. But new block will be stored separately by each client, so you need to overwrite other copies again with 'cp --reflink' from time to time.
Excellent…I hadn't heard of btrfs until now, but see that it offers similar capabilities to zfs.  I'll have to check it out.
192  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin FBI Report April 2012 on: May 09, 2012, 04:12:21 AM
Would want me to explain how that process would work, in public?

You see only A and Z could spend. All the A(...)Z between only passed it along.

Simple it is called a copy.  

It would be trivial for any entity B through Y to make a copy.  Hell it beomes trivial for Z to steal the funds and then blame it on A.  Even "IF" (and that is a big if) everyone is honest it becomes impossible to prove that B through Y only passed it along without making a copy.  Even if when Z gets it the funds are still there it is now unprovable if the funds are secure.  They could "disappear" in the next second or the next year.  When they do nobody can prove who took it.  

Also if I am "A" I really don't want to be doing business with an entity so stupid as to essentially leave 7 figures lying around in big piles without any protection or accountability.  When it goes missing I don't want them coming to look for me ... especially if I didn't even have anything to do with it.

Also maybe "A" gets jammmed up and is going to be dead if he doesn't come up with some money.  Better to steal from Z that risk guaranteed death from this new threat.  So Z needs to trust that not only is A honest right NOW but he will continue to be honest forever.  If "Z" needs to send funds to someone else that simply extends this chain of trust and unaccountability.

There is a reason we hash tx into blocks.
BTC_Bear is right.  If done properly, any copies that any intermediaries made would simply be of encrypted gibberish.  Only A and Z could spend from the wallet.  The B-Y handlers would only have an encrypted form of the wallet…make all the copies you want, they would be useless without the private key that Z possesses and which is needed to decrypt the wallet.
193  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [VIDEO] New Animated Bitcoin Video! "Screw Banks" make it viral! on: May 09, 2012, 02:24:38 AM
I originally had some concerns about the overall tone of the video, but I think in the end it came out great.   Especially for a Max Keiser audience.  If you haven't checked it out, the page showing the cast of characters is hilarious.
194  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin FBI Report April 2012 on: May 08, 2012, 03:28:48 PM
FYI, here's an actual FBI leaked document on 'Legal Aspects of Online Gaming Financial Transactions' (20 June 2011) that also cites the 'Cyber Criminals Exploitation of Real-Money Trading' (8 June 2011) mentioned in page 3 of OP's Scribd document.
http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/attach/10/10400_FBI%20Cleveland%20.pdf
What, if anything, does this say about the legitimacy of this Bitcoin document?  It's hard to imagine someone would go to such great effort to produce a fake that doesn't even have anything terribly controversial in it.  We certainly know the government agencies are well aware of Bitcoin and it's hard for me to imagine the FBI hasn't produced reports such as this.
195  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / sharing block chain on: May 07, 2012, 04:33:53 PM
Is there any way with the current Bitcoin-Qt client to share the block chain with multiple wallets?  Ideally I'd like to be able to do that when the multiple wallets are running concurrently.  From looking at the directory structures, about the only way I can see is if you swap out wallet.dat with the desired wallet when you start it up.  I now have about 5 copies of the block chain on my computer…I'm looking for options to consolidate around a single copy of the block chain.

I'd love it if the wallet functions and the client functions could be separated into two different processes.  Another way of solving it would be to enhance the Bitcoin-Qt such that it could manage multiple wallets (even just a feature to open a different wallet.dat file from the file system).
196  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Grooveshark.com and their response to bitcoins on: May 05, 2012, 02:13:22 AM
Curiously, did you also pass along something like BitPay? I know a few companies who refuse to accept BTC because they think they have to do all of the exchanging manually.

Would be very awesome for them to start accepting BTC :O
Not only are we able to manage the exchange for them, but we can provide detailed accounting reports of the sort that would be needed in any kind of financial audit of revenues should that be necessary (including detailed real time exchange rates at the time revenue is recognized).  This is very important for many companies considering Bitcoin as a payment option.
197  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Banks started to accept bitcoins, would you trust them with yours? on: May 03, 2012, 12:53:32 PM
If my objective was to earn a rate of return on my bitcoins, I would rather buy shares in a loan portfolio than make a deposit into a fractionally backed account.  If the loan portfolio under performs, I'd rather have my shares go down in value than to lose everything to a bank run.  And an FDIC like insurance will be impossible with bitcoin (so bank runs would be a very real possibility).

If my objective is to secure bitcoins, I would consider using a service that assisted me in securing them and carried insurance against loss…but I wouldn't give them full control over the bitcoins…I would be looking for some kind of service that made use of multi-signature (or p2sh is some other manner) to secure the bitcoins to make it only possible to move the bitcoins with my consent or in the event of my death.  I would not simply give the bitcoins to some company to secure.
198  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bit-Pay offers daily direct deposit to SIX additional countries (GBP, EUR) on: May 01, 2012, 05:51:21 PM
We processed over 7000 BTC (about $35,000) worth in transactions during April and that is strong growth over the previous month.  This represents bitcoins being used in real commerce to buy real goods and services.  We are happy with our progress thus far and believe that several more years of investment will yield good results.  Looking forward, our continued growth is dependent on our ability to attract more merchants selling higher priced products.  We believe that our ability to deliver risk free, next day deposits for very large, international orders sets us apart from many other payment processors.
199  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoincard.org on: April 30, 2012, 05:50:03 PM
I think it would be a long shot for this company to be successful.  It's basically a really small computer with a wireless radio…and there's a lot more that it can be used for than just bitcoin.  This is an obvious evolutionary direction and I'd expect many hardware manufacturers to be working in this direction.  Their best bet would be to attract investment from these hardware manufacturers (but if many of them already have internal projects working on it, they may not be interested).
200  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mini Market looking into accepting Bitcoin on: April 30, 2012, 02:30:09 PM
Do tell him, he needs to sell as fast as he can when and if he ever gets paid in coins. Just a small price drop, and he is in the red.
This is BS. If an enterpreneur starts accepting bitcoins, as long as the volume of Bitcoin sales is small, he really shouldn't worry about changing them to fiat "asap". It poses no great risk. Bitcoin price could just as well rise and in fact, on the long run the price has been going up quite significantly. So if the enterpreneur believes in Bitcoin, it makes sense to keep some of the sales as bitcoins.

This is obviously different for someone who does business only with bitcoins. For a Bitcoin startup it's truly risky to start holding significant amounts of bitcoins, doing that could put you into the "red" quite badly. But for a regular merchant the Bitcoin sales are unlikely to be a significant portion of total sales and thus the risk of holding bitcoins is small while the potential gain is good.
Well said…and in fact many of our merchants do choose to keep bitcoins for precisely that reason (it's a small portion of their overall sales and they are as interested as anyone else in the long term prospects for bitcoin's success).  For merchants that have a fairly steady stream of bitcoin sales, the volatility is even less of an issue as their overall cost basis for the coins they receive is a dollar cost average.
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