can you tell me mhash of each? and do these video cards ever stop mining?

wtf http://printin3d.com/

Let's assume for a moment, that your theory
 "to have intellect we need to start from
 large portion of entropy injected into proto-brain and only then ..." is true in all aspects.
Why do you think, that quantity of entropy we need is so huge ? Any proof ?

My point was : if we can start from proto-brain
 filled with relatively modest amount of entropy , and then "spawn" it and "simulate"
 evolution in parallel and with speed 1000x times more than we have achieved for humans...
This will be enough for creation AI with potential well over humans' intellect.

If you define 'swimming' as controlled motion through a fluid then there would be two main aspects to bitcoin swimming:

1) Buoyancy control i.e making sure you did not sink (nor rise the surface too quickly - you do not want to suffer the excruciatingly painful bitcoin bends)
2) Propulsion - applying force to the fluid that you are immersed in so as to move in a controlled manner.

Clearly the fluid we are immersed in is bitcoin.   I presume it is some sort of phase space of dimensionality equal to the address space.

For buoyancy control I suggest experimenting with sending and receiving small amounts to a fixed address (which we will henceforth label the 'swimmer').   I hypothesize that a transaction with a large number of inputs will 'weigh the swimmer down' i.e decrease buoyancy and that a send with lots of outputs will raise the swimmer up as the swimmer's balance is decreased.

Of course 'up' and 'down' in bitcoin address space may be difficult to ascertain - perhaps it is related to some sort of eigenvector of some important characteristic of the space, as yet unknown.   A bitcoin analogue for 'gravity' if you like.   Clearly the fundamental forces in bitcoin space need detailed research.

As to propulsion - we need to find the equivalent of momentum transfer.   Clearly the size of a transaction relates to this.  A large transaction clearly would give more oomph than a single Satoshi.  Care must also be taken to manage the change of the transaction to ensure the bitcoin backwash does not nullify any initial impulse.

You also have to take into account Brownian Satoshi motion caused by teeny weeny transactions that occur 'near' to you in Bitcoin space which basically bobble you about.

Synchronised bitcoin swimming I postulate would involve a flurry of mutual transactions carefully crafted to combine just the right amount of exogenous inputs and outputs of the right size and quantity, combined with mutual spends between the swimmers so that the correct flocking behaviour is observed.

It sounds so complicated to do deftly that synchronised bitcoin swimming really should be an Olympic sport.

My entire argument in the OP was not about whether technological disruption is insurmountable this time, unlike in the past. The thesis of my article had nothing do with this issue and it was only a "Sidenote" in the OP.



Bwahahaha  

Another naive Mathusian bites the dust.

I guess you missed the word "model" in your quoted article. And I guess you missed the phrase "new knowledge" in my post, implying dynamic creation of new models. Only humans innovate!

When you have a computer that innovates itself then call home again.

The fundamental reason a model can never innovate, is because knowledge creation isn't fungible-- one size does not fit all.

Each human brain is entirely unique. This diversity is the only way we get innovation. Evolution is about diverse fitness.

Sorry models won't do. The dynamic development of each individual human has diverse entropy that begins 1000+s of years ago...

jackjack that is a hilarious (love the humor thanks), and in the rare case that you were making a serious criticism then perhaps your inability to distill any useful info is the vacuous space may be your cranium, lol. Just saying.

anderl, the sentient advance of knowledge will always be done by humans, never by computers. Kurzweil's Singularity is sensational nonsense (Luddites were making similar dire predictions, global warming and global cooling propaganda scares have repeated in history, etc). Computers and robots are just tools that will make us more productive at that task of creating knowledge. The unemployment is both due to destruction of private markets by the failing socialism and because most people haven't been training to be computer programmers, nanotech and biotech researchers, robotic engineers, etc..

These 78 year cyclical collisions between technological shift and socialism failure often do result in a Mad Max outcome, but more often on local scale (e.g. local strife and massacres) whereas the multiple-century Dark Ages have only occurred apparently 3 times in human history, which I documented in the following linked comment:

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4946&cpage=1#comment-402880

WEC

It's not doing the hashes, it's getting the work from the mining
pool to some FPGAs/ASIC that wil do the hashing. And when
a golden nonce is found the ARM will send it to mining pool.

So the processor is only doing the I/O to and from the mining
pool.

Can that be done?

intron

There are some on Bitmit: http://www.bitmit.net/en/q/?q=traveler

Why not just use a bog standard USB stick and create an encrypted container: TrueCrypt works with Windows/Mac/Linux & Luks with Mac/Linux.

Are you trolling?
What the fuck is wrong with this forum, are you guys under medication?

Maybe a little but that's the negotiating headroom. I can find them in NL for 330 and in DE for 320, and that is new. I took 60% of newprice as it's over a year old, did conversion to USD and then converted to LTC. That led me to 62.4LTC.

Also 300 eur is incredibly steep as that's basically its price new.

Also i don't care about ebay because thats mainly USA and prices are different there.