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181  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC $24k another new all time high on: December 19, 2020, 11:13:51 PM
BTC just hit another new all time high passing through $24k https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/bitcoin
its time to rock on to $30k !

Do not set your hopes too high, it's festive season and a sell-off is about to happen. You will see till 25 Dec if it rocks on to $30k or sits under $20k as selling has begun and we need fiat to celebrate Christmas by buying some gifts for everyone. Liquidity is looking lower than I saw when btc was trying to break above $20k, let us analyse more and keep the cash in our hands ready.

We are expecting something based on the events on the market as it had happened before like Christmas or Thanksgiving last month when the price fell as well.
$24,2k is a new ath for now but there will be some attempts to break $25k where the resistance will be waiting, and probably the first actual correction after all this rally.
182  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Don't be greedy at this time. on: December 19, 2020, 10:56:37 PM
I'm saying for them they are newbie in trading platform. Don't be greedy. You see it that coin is going to pump and pump and you Think you should buy this coin.. Firstly Don't do it. And at this time all coin is pump so do not do it.
When i was newbie, i did the same mistake so I'm suggest it all newbies. If, you are want to take profit from trading.
Learn about trading. Learn about take profit, stop loss and
Learn about fundamental analyst.  

At a time like this when bitcoin reaches its highest price, the best option is to buy altcoins, because the opportunity to get a profit is higher than buying bitcoin at the peak of the price. However, who knows that it's the peak and it won't climb higher? I thought the ath was $22k but it turned out to reach $23k then $24k as the new ath, it even not the end of the year, and what will happen in 2021 as most of the market may reach a higher point.
183  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Not everyone will agree with Bitcoin, you should know this! on: December 19, 2020, 01:54:48 PM
~While researching, I learnt that one of his reasons for the hate is that he believes Bitcoin to be complex when it comes to usage. "It would have to be completely friction-free and understandable by everybody first." he said. But honestly, I don't see how Bitcoin is complex, all what we know was taught. He makes it look like you need a laptop to access / use it.

He's gone so far as talking his grandma out of it. “She was like, ‘Baby can you help me get me invested in this?

A layman doesn't have to understand how bitcoin works to be able to use it, all he needs is to download the bitcoin app wallet on the store and buy bitcoin on exchanges.
Volatility is a better reason for people to not involved in bitcoin but time has proven that the value of bitcoin continues to increase rather than decrease, so it is suitable for a long-term investment, simply hold it for ten years and find out how much it can grow compared to put it in the bank account or any other investment.
184  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will increase 20X in the next 5 years on: December 18, 2020, 11:20:21 PM
The first "ATH" I've experienced* was around 1200$ at the end of 2013.
The following crypto winter made it fall 6x, to 200$ levels.

2017 started with 1000$ price and the new ATH was almost 20k (20x growth)

The new crypto winter got us to some 3100$ (6.5x fall)

Now we are back to almost 20k again and since we, humans, just love to find patterns, we obviously expect a new 20x (ish) ATH, hence 400k.
Of course, although people say that history repeats itself, it doesn't do everything in the same way (and doesn't repeat itself when we want it to), so... we'll have to wait and see.


* That ATH made me get into crypto, so I don't know much more than the price tag.

During the bull run, we are so excited and predict that bitcoin will multiply and reach a certain point, nothing wrong with it as the pattern of the rise and fall of bitcoin seems to tend to repeated although not exactly in the same way. If it's true, bitcoin should reach a new ATH in 2021, one year after halving,  and the price will plummet in 2022, the next halving in 2024 and a new ATH in 2025.
185  Economy / Economics / Re: Banks going in stable coins news its starting now on: December 17, 2020, 06:02:35 PM
Banks will make this industry even more interesting

I concur, banks are under the supervision of the authorities, so they do business in a much better way than exchanges compared to the exchange that issued USDT. in this case, Germany’s Bankhaus von der Heydt (BVDH) has received approval from the regulator BaFIN to issue tokenized bonds called EURB. Euro stable coins EURS developed by the Maltese startup called STASIS as an EIP20 standard token on the Ethereum platform in 2018, more competition which mean the quality of service will increase.
Moreover, Bankhaus von der Heydt has partnered with SatoshiPay as a cryptocurrency payments provider to integrate the regulatory complaint EURB into their network.

source
186  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin touch 22000$. 🤑 what's Next? on: December 17, 2020, 09:54:45 AM
Bitcoin is now over 21k+ now we can ATH and its touch 22k+ What you think about btc next move?

It's mainly psychological barriers now. $25k then $30k might provide resistance. Or things might tail off naturally before that point.
The other thing to consider is that there will inevitably be some FOMO and panic-buying kicking in. Once that reaches a certain point, and the charts start going vertical, then there will likely be some panic of the opposite kind, and big sell-offs as we correct back to a new support level.



The sudden upsurge over $4000 within 2 days is surprisingly impressive, the price rise from $19,4k and thought the peak will be at $22k but it turned out to hit $23,777 as the new ath. Then bitcoin price quickly dropped within minutes to $22.4k right now, it isn't clear what is the next support level and the resistance will start to form after a strong resistance such as the current condition.
187  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Early signs of crime with bitcoin. on: December 17, 2020, 01:21:16 AM
It's not a new thing or an early sign, crime using bitcoin is happening every day, as people will use everything that has value as a medium of exchange for a good or bad purpose.
The main thing that we have to focus on is the government's response to crypto because many countries have regulated bitcoin whether as an asset or commodity or as an alternative digital currency. It would be better if regulations allow the adoption of bitcoin as a currency for direct application as a means of payment, but as long as it does not hinder ownership or trade the cryptocurrency isn't bad as well.
188  Economy / Speculation / Re: Congrats to everyone for reaching $20k again. on: December 16, 2020, 11:58:41 PM

This might be the new ath for bitcoin but I guess we will see more, its been stable at 19k and 21k is just a step away or maybe more soon.
Well, that guess hits right a way that fast. Now, just bare yourself the impact it will cause if the price decline after or if it will continue surging.

The price still in the early phase after successfully break the big wall of $20k, the next resistance probably around $21,5k-$21,8k before bitcoin reaches $22k.
However, the price will climb higher in the short term and in the long term, hopefully, the market still holds on a little bit longer than just decide to massive sell out.
189  Economy / Speculation / Re: Congrats Bitcoin Community. Today is $20k day! on: December 16, 2020, 10:45:32 PM
Yep! Finally hit the $20K and now Bitcoin is heading even to $21K!

What a decent end of this year after all the coronavirus crap! Crossing fingers to see it in the $30K range in less than 12 months Smiley)

$30k?? Your sights are set far too low. $30k will probably happen by Spring. $100k is the main target for 2021.

The price keeps rising beyond $21k as the ath hit $21,464 on Bitstamp and the price at $21,323 right now.
We can expect the next target is $22k and the resistance levels around $21,5k-$21,8k.
Bitcoin $30k is probably achieved in the next year as the correction may occur after bitcoin reach the ath, some predict 30%-35% retraction.
However, $100k still too far at this point, not impossible but there are steps to go through like $30k - $50k - $75k - $80k, the great resistance will be waiting there and the market needs more investors than currently.
190  Economy / Speculation / Re: Congrats to everyone for reaching $20k again. on: December 16, 2020, 01:57:40 PM
Bump!

$2,250 @ bitstamp right now.

Note for moderators: I think it is pretty clear that I'm not breaking unofficial rule nº 21. This thread was created precisely to be bumped in a day like today.

$20,350 right now
and $20,440 the new ath based on Bitstamp
Quite amazing how the resistance level collapse at once after bitcoin succeed to break $19,8k today, it may keep going to reach $21k soon.
Meanwhile, we can rejoice for the new all-time high and hopefully it will sustain above $20k.
191  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin cannot go as per your plan on: December 15, 2020, 11:51:05 PM
There has been many topics in this forum with open ended questions like why didn't Bitcoin reach $20k mark or why there has been a slowdown, what's the reason for the recent fluctuations and when is it going to achieve $50k or $100k?

We need to understand that Bitcoin doesn't go as per our expectations or predictions

People discuss the price swings and prediction because it's fun to do and profits have driven us to get involved in this race, whoever can predict it right, can sell at the right time to acquire higher profits than others, simply as that. Even people have been doing this for a long time in the traditional market like the stock, we are looking for the reasons, cause and effect relationship whenever something happens or why it doesn't fit our expectations and prediction.
192  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Constantly burning out my trades. What do I do to avoid this? on: December 15, 2020, 10:56:28 PM
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How do I safely recover my losses, preferably over a short period of time?
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Thanks. I'll have a look and make some notes. My only issue is that funds are low, so it's very difficult not to go 100% in on high leverage. It is possible that I feel a sense of urgency to get these funds back.

When you do still have funds to trade and even if its low then that would be an another challenge and dont or try to remove that sense of urgency because that will really be a major problem.

Dont add funds until now because you would lose even more.Try to take up the challenge on growing that little amount of money that you do currently had.

Most users who posted on this thread are actually true.We all had experienced the same scenario w hen we are still starting and as mentioned that you do learn up from those mistakes
and taking notes will be ideal.

My trading system mainly consists of looking for breakouts on charts. Lots of lines, and reading the MACD/RSIs. I'll admit, i'm not very good at it, and a lot of it consists of hope; but sometimes, I am right...
Correct trades will normally net me a decent profit, but the bad trades I never understand how to close, and I am always scared to take losses early, and often let my positions bleed.

The sense of urgency to recover the loss in a short period of time is one of the reasons why you make a hasty and wrong decision.
You should set the goal, how much (percentage) you want before selling the coins, and vice versa set the stop loss, don't let your coins in bleed position for a long time and fall too deep, if your research indicates it will fall and will take a long period to recover, sell it at once.
And the main point is to choose the right coins, it's something that we have to do, due diligence, to determine which coin to buy and sell at the right time.
193  Economy / Speculation / Re: When moon? ($500k / $1 million / $2 million) on: December 14, 2020, 10:06:19 PM
It seems unrealistic for bitcoin to hit those levels without a specific reason to drive the price. It is more likely to max out at 50k-100k for the next decade and that is still a great thing because it has come such a long way in it's first 10 years of existence. If there was a substantial amount of extra stimulus in an effort to recover from the damage caused by Covid, there is a chance that some of that money could flood into bitcoin.

it seems unrealistic at this time, imagine people said bitcoin will reach $20k back in 2010 when it just launched, did anyone say that was unrealistic? Probably yes.
Nonetheless, no one can say for sure that bitcoin will ever or never reach that point, there is a reason and potential to achieve that price such as more adoption, supply and demand. If fiat currency continues to be eroded by inflation so that its value is depreciated, it is not surprising that the price of commodities such as gold has continued to increase for thousands of years, in contrast to bitcoin, which the price increases rapidly due to various reasons.
194  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Who are the 1% of traders who earn with trading? on: December 14, 2020, 09:28:48 PM
We always refer to the whales or big boys who have millions of dollars to spend in the market in order to manipulate and influence how the market moves at their will, but that isn't always the reason for people who can't make profits, it is more about intelligence and strategy to predict the market.
Whoever can survive and last longer in the trading battlefield obviously have a great methodology and strategy to achieve the goal.
The question is what do 1,6% of traders do differently?
195  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is my Bank on: December 14, 2020, 07:47:35 PM
Now I have accumulated a small amount to be able to reopen a bank account but I think that instead of opening a new bank account, it is be better to just buy and invest in bitcoin so that I can expect more profit than the traditional bank.
Feel it for your self. As you said you started trading and you are generating good profits from it you now have the momentum to keep on going on trading why not just go at it. Opening a bank is wise, but investing it in bitcoin specially when you are feeling good about it is way better. Opening a bank cost a couple hundreds(may vary in each country and bank) which you can use as capital for more trades and generate more profit.

People who know to take advantage of bitcoin opportunities make more profit compared to traditional banks. However, bitcoin doesn't always hit a high price in the same way as this time, the volatility is a problem that cannot be resolved so far because of the large number of bitcoin whales that can sway the price of bitcoin. You have to be very cautious to pay attention to the movements and activities of the bitcoin market to make the right decisions, moreover diversification is a good thing just in case something undesired occurs, after all, not everything can be paid for using bitcoin, sometimes it requires cash and withdrawing from exchanges also requires a bank account.
196  Economy / Speculation / Re: New ATH then correction of 35%+ on: December 14, 2020, 07:18:36 PM
I've added an edit to the OP as follows...


Looks like an ascending triangle is forming on the 1hr and 4 hr charts. You heard it here first!  Grin Grin Grin

Wow, that seems to be a good news, let's see if that would continue and it will bring the price closer to $20,000, honestly, I'm already negative that we will see $20,000 this month, I thought there's not hype anymore and the price will just correct soon.

I hope I'm wrong fellas.

The Bitcoin pattern has been repeated several times in the last 2 months, trying to break the $ 20k resistance level. The bulls are still not safe here, it drops towards the triangle support and consolidates to find support again to eventually break up. Bitcoin is obviously against a big resistance around the $19,4/6 levels which won't break easily and the attempt to break $20k still not seen as bitcoin has not hit above $19,5 again.
197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Top 5 best coin or token? on: December 14, 2020, 01:57:42 PM
Top 20 coins on the market cap provide a better chance for beginners to trade without having to go through too much hassle to do the research, the price tends to follow bitcoin path to increase or decrease almost all the time. Just make sure to always check the trading volume on exchanges and the trend on the market, whether those coins have the demand to push the price higher or will be decline shortly.
198  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins have no dividend or potential future dividend on: December 13, 2020, 11:56:51 PM
I wouldn't call Bitcoin a commodity, commodities are meant to be consumable, and Bitcoin is obviously not. Collectibles are valuable because of their extreme rarity, and Bitcoin is not that rare - up to 21 million coins, and 100 million times more satoshis. I don't think that Bitcoin is all that different from fiat money - they are both valuable because people believe in their value, while inherently they have no uses beyond monetary. The key difference is that fiat's supply is created in a centralized way, and now with the shift towards digital payments, the payments are also processed in a centralized way too.

Satoshi was right, we can assume bitcoin as a collectible or commodity if we compare it with stocks that have dividends.
The commodity isn't always meant to be consumable, you can't consume gold but it is a commodity, commodity is a useful or valuable thing. In economics, a commodity is an economic good that has full or substantial fungibility; that is, the market treats instances of the good as equivalent or nearly so with no regard to who produced them. The price of a commodity good is typically determined as a function of its market as a whole. source
Collectibles:   May have aesthetic or   emotional value but derives its pricing from its scarcity (supply) and the perception of others that it is wanted. source
However, bitcoin meant to be an alternative payment method، as a means of payment, as a medium of exchange, in short as a currency.
199  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Defend the bitcoin network to the death on: December 13, 2020, 10:08:13 PM
what conditions threaten the bitcoin network that we have to defend it to the death? is it a 51% attack? is it the regulation? or quantum computers?
I believe that people with power (funds and knowledge) i.e. the developers and miners have been working so hard all the time to ensure that the problem solved and also provide solutions to problems that may occur in the future. Bitcoin has been growing rapidly over the last 10 years and there is more positive adoption of bitcoin in the world of traditional finance, even some countries are classified as bitcoin-friendly. every problem has a solution.
200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Buy 5 coins and wait till each of them grows 10%, then sell on: December 13, 2020, 09:23:05 PM
What about time frames? If you look at some coins and how they did since 2018, you'll see that many never pumped by 10%. They had their small 5% pumps and 6% dumps that over the course of months made them lose value.

A new investor may find that he held a coin, there was no 10% pump and the coin is now worth 20% less than a year before. He can sell at a loss or hold a bag forever like people who bought all those new PoS coins last year.

In that case, we have to choose some coins that have good potential such as bitcoin, altcoin, ethereum, waves, monero, nem, and so on. 10% isn't so big to achieved and may take 1 week or 1 month to reach it, depending on current market trends. For example, bitcoin fell to $17,6k 3 days ago but managed to increase up to $19,4k yesterday, so it has achieved a 10% increase. Nevertheless, limiting profits to just 10% is indeed an advantage, but some coins like bitcoin have the potential to grow more than that, so we can wait a little longer to take 20% or 30% profit.
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