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181  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2016, 07:46:26 PM
seeing a downtick -  GBTC telegraphing a move down
182  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 09, 2016, 06:52:00 PM
you know,  I'm starting to come to terms with the social proposals various candidates are throwing out there.  It seems the U.S. will be fucked anyway,  so why not get medical care,  college,  other stuff as an entitlement?

If you don't like taxes,  then you don't have to work - let someone else pay your bill - or double all salaries and tax at 50%  who the fuck knows

I don't have any answers either



183  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 09, 2016, 05:52:00 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/09/politics/donald-trump-national-debt-strategy/index.html

Trump: U.S. will never default 'because you print the money'

If he becomes president this could get really "funny".In that case I advise to buy moaaar bitcoins!!


this is even better:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/study-sanders-economic-plan-piles-170219543.html
184  Economy / Speculation / Re: GBTC Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: May 03, 2016, 12:06:02 PM
good volume - spreads are pretty
185  Economy / Speculation / Re: GBTC Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: April 27, 2016, 08:42:52 PM
you can still pseudo arb this if you think the premium is too large

1)  sell the GBTC  (provided you own it)
2)  use proceeds to buy 'physical' btc

if you are correct and the spread decreases - you can use the proceeds in #1 to buy GBTC and sell #2 to cover the cost

not perfect though - you lose out if the spread increases  + you don't get the magic premium that happens when you transfer from the BIT fund to GBTC...but you need to wait 12 months for that one

Of course, but a key rationale for owning GBTC is owning it in a 401k / IRA.  It is hard to buy bitcoin in those funds.  You could buy direct from bitcoin investment trust at NAV, but you have to be an accredited investor and then hold for at least a year.  And you'd have to have self administered fund, you couldn't do it through a company 401k.

There are other ways of getting direct bitcoin into a self-administered IRA, but it is fairly complicated.

I hear ya- trying to defer on the tax- but hey,  never forget... better to make money and pay tax than not make the money at all
186  Economy / Speculation / Re: GBTC Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: April 27, 2016, 07:26:06 PM
you can still pseudo arb this if you think the premium is too large

1)  sell the GBTC  (provided you own it)
2)  use proceeds to buy 'physical' btc

if you are correct and the spread decreases - you can use the proceeds in #1 to buy GBTC and sell #2 to cover the cost

not perfect though - you lose out if the spread increases  + you don't get the magic premium that happens when you transfer from the BIT fund to GBTC...but you need to wait 12 months for that one
187  Economy / Speculation / Re: GBTC Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: April 26, 2016, 11:53:43 AM
Still no good way to arb this then??
I wish.  It took me most of a year to push through to real liquidity (although technically that is unproven until I do sell at least a portion, hmm).  I do believe it would go faster the second time but to arbitrage it would require something less than a month for me to be comfortable and more like a few days to really crank it up.  I might take a second smaller lot in just to try; they did indicate that I wouldn't have to take a full $25K in since I'm already established.  If I do then I will report back.

I am reluctant to take out any of what I've got in already for fear of missing a jump up while goofing around trying to get it back in.  I am as long-minded as one can get.  That said, I've got as much of my total wealth in already that I'm comfortable with.  $70.90/$42.60 is a crazy huge spread and very tempting.
Isnt arbing next to impossible because you have to hold atleast 1 year?
Apparently that only applied to the original investment; new funds going in now are converted to GBTC without any holding period at all.

All new investments (including follow-on by existing investors)  are subject to 12 month holding period
188  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 20, 2016, 07:35:30 PM
That's still a thing? I haven't heard much about it for a long, long time. I wonder how many people actually own any.

I do own some
189  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 20, 2016, 07:32:56 PM
GBTC at all time high.  https://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=GBTC#{"range":"max","allowChartStacking":true}

Based on yesterday's close, a near 45% premium.  http://grayscale.co/bitcoin-investment-trust/#market-performance

it is not at an all time high
190  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2016, 08:47:25 PM
Confuciuos say haters going to hate
and short term thinking for short dick


going higher long term
191  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 09, 2015, 02:47:58 PM
getting tempting to hit the GBTC ARB at 50% premium
192  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 09, 2015, 02:44:24 PM
GBTC bid for 270 Bitcon equivalent at $60 per share   ($600) underying implied
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/GBTC/quote
193  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 01, 2015, 05:23:06 PM
falling knife action
194  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 26, 2015, 02:01:28 AM
I heard Isis was funding ops with dogecoin  Grin
195  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 26, 2015, 01:01:26 AM
Uptick
196  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 26, 2015, 12:16:10 AM
Made front page of foxnews.com
197  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 18, 2015, 09:10:41 PM
hey -  off topic  (but what isn't these days)    but is this true?

Bibles are forbidden anywhere inside Saudi Arabia, the "offence" being punishable by death.
198  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 18, 2015, 08:40:41 PM

What the fuck are 'supermodel genes'?  So you think the white kid is pretty and the other isn't.  That is totally subjective.

Contrary to what fat pride and other whacko groups try to claim, "beauty" is not even close to entirely subjective.  Symmetry and attributes that define health are obvious objective standards of looks, probably plenty more exist.  I hate to break it to you, but the world in general will unanimously agree which child received the supermodel genes and which didn't.

Since the Caucasian genes are recessive, this is how it turns out nearly every single time in these kinds of offspring, the child looks nothing like the white parent.  From a strict biological and natural selection point of view, the purpose of reproduction is solely to spread your genes into the future.  In the scenario above, what she has done is basically pass on her genes as non-influential junk DNA, while the African genes determined almost the entire outcome of the child where it doesn't resemble one of the parents at all.

Of course there will be tons of Marxists coming along to claim that mentioning African genes are dominant and Caucasian and Asian genes are recessive is "da raycism", because it doesn't take a genius to figure out that whatever genes compromise the recessive groups would basically be made extinct by full integration between all groups.  This infuriates the common Marxist because it blows the lid off their fake narrative where those groups of people tend to constantly push for things like conservation of variety in animal species, yet they would be pushing for the exact opposite in this case, the extinction of the recessive groups on purpose.


Bottom line: Klum is still totally bangable.

and her daughter may well wind up even hotter than her when she grows up
199  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 18, 2015, 05:17:52 PM
slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oow day
again

Your brother stopped by Smiley
...


is that your brother from another mother?

Not recognizing your own kinfolk Angry http://www.reocities.com/swedishscum/ggallin/mj9304.jpg

 Grin   ahh, got it - funny,  never saw the pic
200  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 18, 2015, 05:07:45 PM
slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oow day
again

Your brother stopped by Smiley
...


is that your brother from another mother?
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