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November 18, 2015, 03:48:48 PM |
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Furthermore, as I said, the concept of human races doesn't hold in biology, but it very much holds in the socio-economic realm.
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November 18, 2015, 03:53:40 PM |
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Yet racism continues to be deeply rooted in the "standard American mindset", as betrayed by the "race" field in forms. Who would have thought Stolfi would be an ivory tower Marxist? Probably everyone? Race is a real and not imaginary construct. There were seven main haplogroups in Africa, L0-L6. L3 split into haplogroup M & N. N being the precursor to caucasians, and M being the precursor to everything else not African. The amount of time that haplogroup M+N have been separated from L is something like 100,000 years. It's not a question of "do races exist", or "are races different", it's only a question of how large of changes can occur in that time span. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-44E5HE2ksQs%2FTg319P4Z84I%2FAAAAAAAAAAc%2FmZEdTBM1TfI%2Fs1600%2FNew%2BPicture%2B%2525281%252529.png&t=665&c=9ajafReTnZsmcA) That's only a conservative estimate of genetic isolation though. In America, plenty of Caucasian and Africans live near each other, yet the interbreeding between groups is something miniscule under 5%. Since white genes are recessive, the white race would not exist if this ratio was higher. Due to this, whether your Marxist mind acknowledges it or not, if you advocate that everyone on earth interbreed with each other with no regards to race, you are in fact advocating white genocide due to white genes (and Asian) being recessive. It's pretty easy to verify this with virtually any interracial relationship that exists. Take Heidi Klum for example. Here's her with two of her kids, each from different fathers. She's supposed to be a supermodel, yet has passed along virtually none of those supermodel genes onto one child, while clearly having done so for the other. This is because white genes are recessive and it's hard to even tell the child on the left is related to her at all. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FR0PXqxH.jpg&t=665&c=g88vRkiaIPPsrQ) When people like Richard Dawkins use terminology like "the selfish gene" to describe how and why organisms reproduce, in the example above, you're effectively throwing your genes out the window, accomplishing nothing, and effectively eliminating yourself from the gene pool due to your genes being recessive. This is one of the big reasons why intermarriage rate remains low. Even if they don't understand the science behind it, people subconsciously know this and instinctively avoid it so as to not purposely erase their lineage from history.
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November 18, 2015, 04:01:13 PM |
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November 18, 2015, 04:02:58 PM |
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r0ach, It would be beneficial to flick through primary school science books from time to time. What you're describing are ethnic groups, not races. For the umpteenth time, there are no human groups different enough to be labelled as race.
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November 18, 2015, 04:08:16 PM |
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r0ach, It would be beneficial to flick through primary school science books from time to time. What you're describing are ethnic groups, not races. For the umpteenth time, there are no human groups different enough to be labelled as race.
This is a bullshit, meaningless, semantics argument. The terminology used in Mainstream Science on Intelligence is "racial-ethnic group", so it still has the word "race" in it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstream_Science_on_IntelligenceI used the word "race" because that is what's known to describe this concept in colloquial speech.
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November 18, 2015, 04:15:45 PM |
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I used the word "race" because that is what's known to describe this concept in colloquial speech.
That's exactly the point. If you wish to make biological arguments you must use biological terms.
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November 18, 2015, 04:20:57 PM |
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... Since white genes are recessive, the white race would not exist if this ratio was higher. Due to this, whether your Marxist mind acknowledges it or not, if you advocate that everyone on earth interbreed with each other with no regards to race, you are in fact advocating white genocide due to white genes (and Asian) being recessive. ... Unfortunate fact #1: Everything you know about Karl Marx you've learned from stormfront & mises.org. The only solution to the genocide of the White Race: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Lebensborn.svg/150px-Lebensborn.svg.pngP.S. Learn what genocide means before using the word again. ty.
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November 18, 2015, 04:22:36 PM |
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My child is asian, african, and european(both north and mediterranean)
Please let me know what race this is.
Please let me know what relevance the answer would have.
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November 18, 2015, 04:25:04 PM |
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It's official, this thread is now disgusting.
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November 18, 2015, 04:26:34 PM |
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It's official, this thread is now disgusting.
+1
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November 18, 2015, 04:27:30 PM |
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It's official, this thread is now disgusting.
thats because we are all mind numbed from all the bitchcoin action.
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November 18, 2015, 04:28:03 PM |
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It's official, this thread is now disgusting.
+1 Just now? LOL I have fresh fiat and am patiently waiting for the dump ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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November 18, 2015, 04:28:28 PM |
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I used the word "race" because that is what's known to describe this concept in colloquial speech.
That's exactly the point. If you wish to make biological arguments you must use biological terms. Language is an evolving mechanism of consensus. If 99% or more of people on earth refer to this idea as "race", and it already seems to be accepted as such in dictionaries, and a much smaller portion refer to it as "ethnic group", colloquial speech will determine what is valid in the future unless some type of major scientific discovery invalidates it's use. From the dictionary: Race - A usually geographically isolated population of organisms that differs from other populations of the same species in certain heritable traits Biologists/Taxonomists also play fast and loose with classification of species in animals they discover, and if they practiced those same habits classifying humans, they would probably end up classifying humans into different species. In other words, your argument is meaningless semantics.
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November 18, 2015, 04:31:12 PM |
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The sooner we're all coffee-coloured androids the better. Then we can move on into the stars and find some folks we're united in wanting to discriminate against.
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November 18, 2015, 04:31:55 PM |
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Yet racism continues to be deeply rooted in the "standard American mindset", as betrayed by the "race" field in forms. Who would have thought Stolfi would be an ivory tower Marxist? Probably everyone? Race is a real and not imaginary construct. There were seven main haplogroups in Africa, L0-L6. L3 split into haplogroup M & N. N being the precursor to caucasians, and M being the precursor to everything else not African. The amount of time that haplogroup M+N have been separated from L is something like 100,000 years. It's not a question of "do races exist", or "are races different", it's only a question of how large of changes can occur in that time span. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-44E5HE2ksQs%2FTg319P4Z84I%2FAAAAAAAAAAc%2FmZEdTBM1TfI%2Fs1600%2FNew%2BPicture%2B%2525281%252529.png&t=665&c=9ajafReTnZsmcA) That's only a conservative estimate of genetic isolation though. In America, plenty of Caucasian and Africans live near each other, yet the interbreeding between groups is something miniscule under 5%. Since white genes are recessive, the white race would not exist if this ratio was higher. Due to this, whether your Marxist mind acknowledges it or not, if you advocate that everyone on earth interbreed with each other with no regards to race, you are in fact advocating white genocide due to white genes (and Asian) being recessive. It's pretty easy to verify this with virtually any interracial relationship that exists. Take Heidi Klum for example. Here's her with two of her kids, each from different fathers. She's supposed to be a supermodel, yet has passed along virtually none of those supermodel genes onto one child, while clearly having done so for the other. This is because white genes are recessive and it's hard to even tell the child on the left is related to her at all. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FR0PXqxH.jpg&t=665&c=g88vRkiaIPPsrQ) When people like Richard Dawkins use terminology like "the selfish gene" to describe how and why organisms reproduce, in the example above, you're effectively throwing your genes out the window, accomplishing nothing, and effectively eliminating yourself from the gene pool due to your genes being recessive. This is one of the big reasons why intermarriage rate remains low. Even if they don't understand the science behind it, people subconsciously know this and instinctively avoid it so as to not purposely erase their lineage from history. I do not think you should use stormfront.org as a source of science. If you ever paid intuition anywhere, ask for your money back.
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November 18, 2015, 04:33:50 PM |
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The sooner we're all coffee-coloured androids the better. Then we can move on into the stars and find some folks we're united in wanting to discriminate against.
You do realize we are currently in outer space and also on the best planet you will find anywhere. Signed, earthling Edit: Somehow I misread your post but I will never the less leave my reply.
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November 18, 2015, 04:38:14 PM |
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Yet racism continues to be deeply rooted in the "standard American mindset", as betrayed by the "race" field in forms. Who would have thought Stolfi would be an ivory tower Marxist? Probably everyone? Race is a real and not imaginary construct. There were seven main haplogroups in Africa, L0-L6. L3 split into haplogroup M & N. N being the precursor to caucasians, and M being the precursor to everything else not African. The amount of time that haplogroup M+N have been separated from L is something like 100,000 years. It's not a question of "do races exist", or "are races different", it's only a question of how large of changes can occur in that time span. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-44E5HE2ksQs%2FTg319P4Z84I%2FAAAAAAAAAAc%2FmZEdTBM1TfI%2Fs1600%2FNew%2BPicture%2B%2525281%252529.png&t=665&c=9ajafReTnZsmcA) That's only a conservative estimate of genetic isolation though. In America, plenty of Caucasian and Africans live near each other, yet the interbreeding between groups is something miniscule under 5%. Since white genes are recessive, the white race would not exist if this ratio was higher. Due to this, whether your Marxist mind acknowledges it or not, if you advocate that everyone on earth interbreed with each other with no regards to race, you are in fact advocating white genocide due to white genes (and Asian) being recessive. It's pretty easy to verify this with virtually any interracial relationship that exists. Take Heidi Klum for example. Here's her with two of her kids, each from different fathers. She's supposed to be a supermodel, yet has passed along virtually none of those supermodel genes onto one child, while clearly having done so for the other. This is because white genes are recessive and it's hard to even tell the child on the left is related to her at all. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FR0PXqxH.jpg&t=665&c=g88vRkiaIPPsrQ) When people like Richard Dawkins use terminology like "the selfish gene" to describe how and why organisms reproduce, in the example above, you're effectively throwing your genes out the window, accomplishing nothing, and effectively eliminating yourself from the gene pool due to your genes being recessive. This is one of the big reasons why intermarriage rate remains low. Even if they don't understand the science behind it, people subconsciously know this and instinctively avoid it so as to not purposely erase their lineage from history. I do not think you should use stormfront.org as a source of science. If you ever paid intuition anywhere, ask for your money back. Sorry, but mindlessly throwing out the term "Stormfront" in an attempt to insult someone who has never looked at that website before does not invalidate the objective reality of what I've typed. You'll have to actually address the subject of what I've typed instead of using fake strawman tactics.
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November 18, 2015, 04:38:23 PM |
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Good morning Bitcoinland.
Not much happening again apparently. Same old, same old.
One might have thought the events in Paris and the statements from Anonymous could have had some effect on the price, but no.
Ho hum.
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November 18, 2015, 04:44:28 PM |
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blah blah bullshit from lambchops 5000th anti-bitcoin spam account
So now mentioning that white and asian genes are recessive is racist? Maybe Bitcoin is racist too? Maybe everything is racist?
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November 18, 2015, 04:49:10 PM |
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The sooner we're all coffee-coloured androids the better. Then we can move on into the stars and find some folks we're united in wanting to discriminate against.
Them vermin on Tatooine got to be the first to go. They're taking our women and jobs!!
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