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It looks like Jawad Yaqub isn't on the roster now.
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It's pretty sad that there is still no reaction from CoinTelegraph and there are like 105 "red lights" in Razormind's actions in this thread so far. EDIT: There are 3 articles about Razormind, written by CT: https://cointelegraph.com/tags/razormindThe fact that they don't have a "contact us" email tells me they know they suck because they probably got a ton of hate mail last time they tried that. |
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From the 'crowdsale' site:
"How many DEOS are there? Can more be created?
11M (11,000,000) DeOS will be created.
1200 DEOS will be created yearly to reward seed nodes as part of the Proof of Indexing mechanism.
No more DEOS will be created thereafter."
No more DeOS will be created thereafter... except every year.
Strikes me as odd that they will leave it so they can always create more. That has scam written all over it. Let's say they got to $600 each.... what is to stop them from creating a million more? Sounds like the federal reserve to me, and we already know that is a scam.
I think that proves they never intended to use a real cryptocurrency blockchain in the first place.
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Razormind's site says "Jawad grew up in Northern Ireland attending Queens University up to PhD level before moving to London to pursue a career in Enterprise Architecture. " but his Linkedin only claims he has a bachelor's degree in computer science and a master's degree in philosophy. More lies. Also who would admit they worked at Akamai? They are famous for their invasive, broken web browser spyware that are notoriously difficult to remove. http://www.safer-networking.com/removeakamai.php |
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According to waybackmachine razormind was located in NYC back in its "razorcoin" days. I am guessing this has something to do with James Furgeson since he is a "native new yorker". http://web.archive.org/web/20140326052314/http://razorcoin.com/Razormind 42nd Street, Tudor Oaks NYC, New York USA, 11953 Phone: NY +1 718-690-7806 / LON +44 207-193-2800 actual@razorcoin.comThe information belongs to a company called ZSR Business Solutions LLC Interestingly enough their information seems to be all over the place. On Facebook https://www.facebook.com/zsrbiz, same phone number different address 87-46 Van Wyck Expy Richmond Hill (718) 690-7806 On their website http://zsrbiz.com/contact, same address different phone number 340 West 42nd Street #74 New York, NY 10108 help@zsrbiz.com917.499.7876 |
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It's good news that it comes to Ronny Boesing's attention. Many thanks to cryptodevil  1３th of Oct. is kind a X day. Jawad GOTO Conference or first step to GOTO JAIL. They are supposed to be releasing DeOS on the 10th. Let's see if it is anything. Bet it's not. I think it is hilarious how much smack they talked about ethereum, claiming to be "ethereums competition". I bet it is nowhere even remotely CLOSE to as functional as ethereum. |
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This whole Razormind is very much a scam in that everything stated
Was a lie, it's all non existent.
At best it will be an "operating system" consisting of nothing but web widgets and Omni Layer. By the way I can vouch that AskIsh is the real Mailk as I have seen him in the slack channel since before the crowdfunding and he has mentioned to us he was posting here. But then again my word probably doesn't matter because I am "a newbie with one post" in here anyway. |
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Malik says he was added to the razormind site without his consent and he has no contract with them. The reason he left is because Jawad refused to pay Malik for his contribution to the project and claimed all his work was "donated". That makes sense since razormind has no employees and keeps posting everywhere looking for 'interns' (i.e. free labor).
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@plastick - Any more news on the Ish Malik situation?
Yes, since Ismail's deos.io domain has a new site on it that looks more like an actual project than razormind's old site. |
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Yesterday we talked to Patrick from Omni Foundation and he claimed he was not involved with Razormind. Today I got an email from Razormind claiming they are issuing their tokens using Omni layer. Strange huh?
Also the email claims that Ismail Malik was "expelled" from Razormind. That is a LIE. He LEFT because he did not want to have any part of Razormind's criminal activities. Now they claim he is "squatting" the deos.io domain, when in fact Ismail Malik owned the domain in the first place.
Anyway here is the complete copypasta from the email:
"It's almost time to get your Tokens.
Thank you for your response to Tuesday's update - we've now got most of the outstanding participants on the send list for tomorrow.
For those who haven't sent us both the BTC Address for token delivery and the txid to confirm we ask you to please do so before 12 noon GMT tomorrow.
If you can't make that then please email us within one week and we'll take your details and send out the tokens that way.
The Tokens
We're pleased to announce the issuance of DeOS Tokens using the Omni Layer protocol, which we chose because we judged the underlying technology to be the most reliable and easiest to use. The crowdsale operated through issuing individual addresses for each participant, which were verified and confirmed by teams who had no access to the funds. The Omni Layer Foundation was not involved in that process, the statement made in July 2016 about them providing verification services to the fundraise was withdrawn by Razormind after they clarified they don’t offer such services, but we were unable (see below) to retract the statement in print across multiple media channel at the time.
Razormind is using the funds raised to expand our in-house team of talented developers and we are on track to deliver the roadmap promised during the crowdsale. Using the Bitcoin blockchain as the native currency for DeOS has proven a great model, and we look forward to delivering decentralized application infrastructure that builds on the Bitcoin ecosystem.
DeOS Tokens and links to wallets will be delivered tomorrow to you.
Our Crappy Communications
We want to apologize first and foremost for the lack of updates and the general rubbishness of our communications. Ismail Malik was expelled from the DeOS project earlier this week for that reason.
His departure sent a wave of relief throughout the team even though he was squatting on the deos domain.
So, in short we've moved domains and will confirm the new url to access the upgraded DeOS Demo on Monday. We'll also try to build out new community arenas for you - please let us know if you prefer slack, or a facebook page etc. If you have any queries please email - pr (at) razormind (dot)(co)(uk).
DeOS Platform release set for 10th October
Version 1 of the DeOS platform will be available on 10.10.2016. You'll be able to spend your tokens to register smart assets, and identities and lookup those on the blockchain. Spent DeOS Tokens will be available for re-purchase directly from the platform, and the revenue will go to the DeOS Foundation for ensuring the platform stays in public hands.
In Belfast 2 BTMs are on order and due for delivery the week before the launch. A total of 10 are in line for Belfast which will become Razormind's European HQ, and another 10 for Paris, as we intend to launch DeOS based banking in 2017 in those cities.
We're on track to deliver, and now that we're moving to a new leader for our communications we will try to update you daily on our progress.
Kind Regards
DeOS Team"
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Yeah well it also was supposed to have 27,000 active users busy writing smart-contracts and developing on it since January of 2015, too. So I'd take anything that was posted on their website or came out of Jawad's mouth as stinking to high-heaven of bullshit.
They were supposed to deliver a lot of things but only managed to make a website with a few shiny widgets. I mean really, it takes ten minutes to set up a blockchain, but they haven't even done that... or a wallet. I think maybe they intended to do something but quickly realized they were in over their heads when they couldn't find anybody to do it for them (for free of course) because obviously they can't do it themselves. All Jawad knows how to do is add to his website once a month and post tweets insulting and making personal attacks. Not very professional coming from a supposed CEO. |
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Is it? Is it really? As far as I can tell it is simply a cloud-hosted distributed platform (not decentralised and certainly not innovative) of office-style apps bundled with an Ethereum fork rebranded with the Ethers renamed to DEOS.
That is what the demo looked like but from what I understand by all the docs I have seen it is more like ethereum but with file storage and sidechained with bitcoin. here is an interesting page on the razorcoin/mind site: http://www.razormind.co.uk/usecases/It looks like they want to create a basic version of DeOS then charge for "plugins". Kind of greasy if you ask me. |
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More from ISH:
"I was like ok time to fork and save some folk their BTC
So chaps when you read this stuff in your timezone stuff is about to happen and you are witnessing the first post ICO pre launch Fork in action.
The efforts of a community to find justice after so much noise
The sad thing is some will stick with razormind and receive some sort of tokens that are essentially worthless
Well at least now they had a choice and were given an option, if razormind is even solvent in a month would be a big surprise"
Ish is saying he wants a vote from all who bought DeOS to fork over to actual developers who will actually get the actual work done.
DeOS really is a good idea and the world needs it, but Jawad is unfortunately not the guy to be doing it. He claims all the BTC are HIS and anybody who contributed did so as a "donation". Unfortunately for him (as far as I know) the BTC are all locked up in a multisig wallet that he cannot cash out.
Jawad is not in the spirit of the crypto community and running it like a corporation is total suicide, but there are several of us who really believe in this and are willing to do what is needed to make it happen.
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More news...
It turns out ISH owns deos.io as well as the D3OS slack channel and has decided to take over the project and mutiny from Jawad. As of now DeOS has been forked before it is even a thing in an attempt to cut Jawad out of the picture.
I will post more as I hear about it.
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Here is something new... ISMAIL "ISH" MALIK claims he was added to the "Leadership Team" Razormind page without his consent and without any sort of contract. He seems to be pretty mad about it. Here is what he said in the D3OS slack channel:
"To all community members with immediate effect I'm no longer associated with Razormind and or Jawad or Phil.
Please have it noted that I was added to the razormind website without a contractual agreement and will be having myself removed.
I shall be making a full statement in the very near future and urge all members of this slack group to contact me through private message as the next few days and the subsequent actions taken by myself and those that may or may not join me could result in having a material impact on any investments made."
"Jawad has played a game and I have had enough"
"I will be making a full public statement till then PM me thanks"
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Hi newbie with 1 post:
Nice attitude. What are your credentials again?
sorry I am new to this
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