All I see is a baseless accusation in here. It doesn't look like you have proof to support such a statement.
I'll keep watching this thread.
He doesn't. He's a fucking retard who is either too stupid to comprehend the very simple facts of the case or, as is being evidenced by his repeated frantic postings of fraud allegations in the face of facts which contradict what he is claiming, he is part of the BTC-E group of staff members who appear to be doing their damnedest to ignore their own company policy on account recovery procedure. This is why I am becoming alarmed by the way in which both this monumentally dumb fuck and the BTC-E staff are so quick to drop into a feeding frenzy of fraud accusations, all the while repeating the same falsehoods and pretending like user 'Steven009' is a scammer. It is either that they have stolen the funds themselves or do not have the funds to repay him. Both scenarios present very serious implications for their customer base. Lauda, let me address you because I've got the shit-for-brains OP on ignore: This is BTC-E account-recovery policy 3. I forgot my email and can't log in to BTC-e. How can I recover it?
If you can’t access you email for whatever reason, please create a ticket to our support with the following information:
• your username and registered email (the old email);
• your transaction history (at least the last three (3) transactions);
• the methods of deposit;
• the history of IP entries;
• the new email you’d like to use in your account.
We strongly recommend that you use a Gmail.com account with two-factor authentication. Please note that after your email is changed, withdrawals from your account will be blocked for two weeks. The forum member Steven009 has been trying to recover his BTC-E account since 2015 and all they've done is send him round and round in circles asking the same questions which he answers, only for them to seemingly pass the ticket to someone else who starts the whole process off again. Steven has fulfilled ALL of the above AND MORE. At one stage they asked him to send a screenshot of particular data, which he did but blurred out information on the screen which wasn't relevant to the request. BTC-E then accused him of photoshopping the image so he explained why he had edited it and THEN SENT THEM AN UNTOUCHED VERSION which was accepted. He has provided legalised documents to prove his ID as being the same as the person they have on record. Those documents have the public notary's stamp and information on them so BTC-E could contact them directly if they doubt the legitimacy of the notarisation. Now they are repeating the same accusation about the first screenshot he sent them even though they accepted the subsequent unedited one as being legit and saying that he must be a scammer because they offered to send the money to the original bitcoin address (from 2012), the one he already explained he no longer has the private key for. They also ask him to send FROM that same bitcoin address! This nonsense would be funny if it wasn't so concerning. So, as you can see, he's fulfilled their own listed requirements for account recovery as well as going on to provide additional internationally-recognised legal proof of his identity. What BTC-E have done is fuck him about over the last 13 months since he opened the ticket and they continue to do so, with what appears to be multiple staff-members responding at different times with varying degrees of English or even Russian-only replies. The asshole OP of this thread repeatedly posts utterly false statements concerning this case, as though he either can't understand the full details posted in the scam accusation thread, or is intentionally trolling the thread as a desperate attempt to derail the recovery process for some reason. I was contacted recently by Steven009 as Pawel7777 had seen he was struggling with getting BTC-E to even respond to the situation properly and suggested to him to ask me to tag them with the hope it would push them into dealing with it. At one point they told Steven they couldn't give him access to his BTC-E account, but they could send the bitcoin to him instead. So it looked like they were going to finally resolve it, until shit-for-brains suddenly appears in the thread spraying his unique brand of dumb-fuckery all over it. Considering that BTC-E were taking days to reply prior to this, it was particularly suspicious how, 20 minutes after dipshit posted his first allegation against Steven in thread, BTC-E forum account sent dm's and made posts quickly following it up repeating the same allegations. Here's an example of just how monumentally dumb the OP is, or that he is intentionally trolling the other thread: He keeps repeating the claim that Steven must be a scammer because nobody would wait 13 months to recover their account. But Steven's very first post in the scam-accusation thread clearly explains that he has been corresponding with BTC-E for the last 13 months, being sent around in circles, which is why he reached the point of opening a scam accusation thread against them. The crackhead OP of this thread demands that Steven post all of his account and personal identity information publicly, to which I have pointed out that it is both unreasonable and unnecessary a demand to make. Nobody other than BTC-E and Steven need to see those documents and seeing as BTC-E haven't accused Steven of not sending the things they asked for, then he clearly fucking has sent them the things they asked for! We, as the watching public, do not need Steven's private details sprayed all over this forum to resolve this case. We need only know that BTC-E asked him for documents to prove he is the same person as that listed on their own records and that he clearly did provide these documents. This is not even an issue about bitcoin, it is an issue about a centralised trading company withholding their customer's funds even though he has fulfilled their own stated account-recovery process AND satisfied the internationally-accepted court-recognised requirements concerning the legalisation of these documents. As I said - since he wants help from members here - he either has to prove beyond the reasonable doubt that he's the rightful account owner, or an anonymous tip to the police will be filed. And the IMF since this is a transaction for more than 100,000$ and could be used to fund international terrorism. BTCe's request for verification is very reasonable, because if something goes south they're liable too, as they are a registered company with a CEO. Unlike Steven009 they can prove who they are. And the fact that he's "been trying" for 13 months is making it that more suspicious. Continuing to argue with common sense - also. If you're really looking out for this dude, advise him to spend a couple of hundos and get to Russia to get verified and receive his bitcoin. Again - its very reasonable when it comes to 480btc. And once more - what do you know that we don't? Why are you blindly protecting this guy? Multiple accounts much? |
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The forum member cryptodevil for some unknown reason is defending Steven009, trying to get an account back from BTC-e. In short:1. The user Steven009 claims that he lost the Gmail, the skype and the wallet used to fund the account; 2. He also claims that he is unable to get back the Gmail, skype and wallet; He also changed the account email address which was why it was blocked!3. He sent photoshopped documents, showing a wallet and no real evidence that he's the real owner; 4. He refuses to send notarized documents, or go to a verification center. The provided from this user are only screenshots and scanned documents, which could have been bought online; 5. The amount is 480BTC; 6. Instead of really trying to solve his problem he came here pointing finger at BTC-e;7. He also was unable to send a small transaction from the originating wallet, which "he's lost control of"; 8. He waited for 13 months before acting. None of the above makes sense. One also asks a few simple questions: What if it was my money? Would I stand by, waiting or would I go to get my coins?One also wonders: Why most users here get grilled for 50$, but we assist someone that has no valid proof with getting 480BTC from one of the oldest exchanges, that Operates since 2011?Explain yourself cryptodevil - why are you so vigorously defending a guy with no proof of anything? As I said in the thread that Steven009 started - this is a crime, and if you don't want to be in the middle of it - better start explaining. Again - forum rank means nothing to the police, which will be alerted if you support those fraud attempts. Since you're claiming to be the Police here - you're in the hot seat, buddy! Who am I you ask? Why is my tag red, you ask? Please take a look at the comment that cryptodevil placed, and also read why:  Basically I am red tagged because I am asking valid, sensitive questions. I think that cryptodevil is either Steven009, or that he's been promised a percentage of the spoils.PS: Gmail cannot be recovered, because on registration you have to put a phone number. And since Steven009 is not the real owner of the Gmail - he doesn't have the phone number to recover it! Google doesn't delete accounts. Anyone with a brain knows that. They disable it upon request and are able to reinstate in the matter of seconds - it's a huge domain based environment (i was a sysAdmin for a while). And the scammer needs email confirmation, in order to withdraw the bitcoins. |
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It is quite apparent that a number of BTC-E staff have been, and are, involved in this support ticket mess, given the absurd amount of repeated questions and requests for evidence that Steven has provided again and again. I would ask that BTC-E provide a contact email for Mr Andrii Shvets, who either is the beneficial owner of BTC-E or is his legal representative. That way this issue can be resolved according to your own terms of service, by the one person who definitely has the authority to handle it through to completion. You realize that fraud is a crime, right? Although it's believed that BTC is untraceable it actually is. And WHEN (not IF) the real owners realize that they've been defrauded with 499Bitcoins - they are going to the cops. When this happens you're going to jail too! No one cares about your position in this forum. You stand by, and assist a criminal. If he really is who he claims he is - he better comply with the rules to get the coins back. Otherwise - just stop this, before you get into a world of trouble. No one would care for a couple of hundred bucks, but when it comes to lots of cash, the police actually investigates it. And since it is regarding a huge amount of money, this might get into Interpol, no matter if you're Russian, or not. So better think before you act! And for the Scammer himself: And here's what I've already provided, and can provide again:
1. Information about the last transactions to the exchanger;
2. Information about the acount (Login & Email):
3. The IP I used inside the exchanger (Login & Withdrawal);
4. Documents (passport, ID & Utility Bills);
5. Physical evidence of the passport while holding a paper saying "For BTC-e";
6. Notarized document signed by a legal agent with a valid commission number;
7. Screenshot of the wallet used for DEPOSIT in the exchanger (2013);
The next thing I better read from you is - OK I will comply. And you better do it. Otherwise - I am sending an anonymous tip to the police. BTC-e is not on the hot seat here. You are. Why? The above is not a real proof of anything. For instance - how did you get the bitcoins? Did you mine it? If you did - can you prove it? People get grilled here for 50$ worth, and you just expect everyone to believe you, because you're pointing a finger to one of the oldest exchanges. Contrary to you, though, they've been doing this for 6 years successfully. So I think they're way more credible than you! Again - this is major fraud, and anyone assisting you is an accessory after the fact! Not just fraud, but money laundry too! The address that you provided before has very shady activity. Coins were sent to hundreds of addresses in the matter of hours. So again - if you're the real owner, instead of writing bullcrap on the internet - just go face to face, show them your documents and get your money. Do you think that if a bank blocks your account you will be able to send them an email and expect them to unblock it? NO! It is the same with this case because it is for a MASSIVE amount of money, that no one could ignore! |
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Dude, sorry for this. A couple of days earlier he confirmed in a topic, that this selfie was bought on the deepweb and was used to verify the skrill account, which was probably 3rd party account. |
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Please keep this in mind when using Paxful. |
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My theory is that he is trying to steal some unsuspecting member's account for himself.
The victim might not even know about this since the email address was changed. Why would a "victim" leave thousands worth of bitcoins to be claim by someone else? If the account wasn't mine, I believe that it would have been recovered a long time ago. I havent used btce in a while, but as far as I remember there is a withdrawal confirmation link sent via email.
Perhaps thats why he changed the rmail. The email was never changed, it's still the same. It's just not usable. They have confirmed that the email was deleted by Gmail since they could send a message there and get an invalidation "bounce". Cannot be recreated nor used, permanently. Fact is - he changed email, he doesnt have access to Skype (he could change the pw if it was forgotten but he doesnt have access to the email; convenient), he refuses to send a small deposit from the original wallet that he could also restore access to; he doesnt send notarized passport and he refuses to go to a verification office. Fact is, I never changed the email. I sent them what skype I used to communicate with them, but it's not accessible because it's associated with the deleted Gmail. It's impossible to send a small deposit from the original wallet since it was used in 2012 and 2013, we're in 2017 now. And I have sent them a notarized document that proves that I was PHYSICALLY in a legal office to sign my declaration. Also, the email associated with my BTC-e account contain my first and second name, which serves as complementary evidence to justify my claim (yes, I did send them my passport, AGAIN, yesterday). Yet for some reason he asks for help here instead of a lawyer and cryptodevil is helping him again - for an unknown reason. They operate in a shell company @ UK. Their legal company is operated by a signer from some random country that is the director of atleast a hundred different companies. Good luck trying to reach them. The best option is to go public. I think that if he wants help from strangers he has to prove to those strangers that he didnt steal the coins. He cant do that. I already did, by exposing BTC-e inability to comprehend common sense and logical behavior. On a side note, you have intentionally posted misinformation on this thread with the attempt to give credibility to BTC-e, even tho you have absolutely no valid arguments and were already proven to be wrong by numerous people. We have proposed to the user to return his money in his deposit or withdraw bitcoin address!
User refuses!
Your offer is ridiculous to say the least. You have offered to send the funds to a bitcoin wallet that the last time it was used was in 2012 and 2013. In fact, all the wallets that were used there were from ages ago since you have locked my account for a considerable amount of time now, or am I wrong? You are conveniently choosing the most ridiculous options, even tho you know the nature of this situation. You are intentionally ignoring the knowledge of my transactions, specific details containing my information and details of my transactions to the exchange. Unless I have access to your servers to filter the transaction details of my own account, how else could I know about such details? You are ignoring that, which is the most logical thing in this whole conversation. Also, it was you who asked for a notarized document, a copy of my passport and a picture of me holding a paper saying "For BTC-e" while also holding my passport in the other hand. Why would you ask for that if it's labelled as "invalid" in the retrieval process? We have currently: 1. Mail a user deleted on gmail due to the fact that someone is trying to hack it. 2. The user has no access to the purses from which the bitcoin transaction 3. The user claims that his Skype also deleted in which we communicate with him. 4. The user wrote to us constantly with new e-mail: (steve***@safe-mail.net, stevenwag***@hotmail.com, stevenwa***@gmail.com) 5. The user claims that he does not have access to the wallet, the question from this screen https://i.imgur.com/vppQXmB.png we have the original of the file and in the file properties is written that it is made in Photoshop versions CS6? All these facts indicate that access to the account is trying to get a fraudster. We are waiting for comments from the user on all issues! 1. The email was deleted a long time ago, way before I even contacted you. 2. The bitcoin wallets ONLY used in 2012 and 2013, never were they used recently. 3. The Skype was never deleted; was associated with the deleted email. 4. The reason why I wrote to you using different emails (which I have already stated in this thread) is because you kept ignoring my tickets for weeks. 5. The screenshot is cut and filtered to only show what you were asking; the screenshot was sent in 3 different versions and formats. You acknowledge that in your later ticket that the nature of the screenshot was on longer an issue. That's why you offered to send my funds to a different account. Now I have some questions for you: 1. Why have you been ignoring me for the past 13 to 14 months, and are just now replying after I accused you of scamming? 2. Why did you requested all my personal information, including copy of passports, utility bills and picture of me holding a paper and my passport, if it's not valid as proof of evidence? 3. Why did you say that you couldn't "restore" access to my account, but were willing to transfer the funds to a different account? 4. Why are you acting so defensively, when all we want is for you to come clear on your actions and contradictions? 5. Why do I think that someone from inside your team actually stole my funds, and you're trying to cover up? Wow, you just proved my theory. What would you say about this - https://blockchain.info/address/16Ra2jxaZBPF5thJskKuABwAr3wZPgzgZcI see a 499BTC transaction. Where is the 480BTC transaction on the screenshot exactly? That's 19BTC difference. Please explain this! |
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This doesn't look like a proper scam accusation to me. Exactly how did he/she scam you if you have never conducted a trade?
So me and this guy are probably in different time zones. I told him i do everything through paxful. I even posted my link in the signature. When hes available to trade I am at work and vice versa. Then I posted a trade in his topic and instead of replying he began throwing accusations at me. Thats why I red tagged him. He is conspiring with the fraudster Donatelo. Ita all there for everyone to see. |
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The user has no access to email or to bitcoin wallets.
No offense but it's like talking to the wall. This is going nowhere. Again, if so, why have you asked him to provide all the additional info?Again, you can verify that his email account was closed. Just send a test email and you'll get 'undelivered' message. Now you know his not lying. Again, if I send few satoshis to someone else's btc-e account, would you consider me as a rightful owner just because I can prove ownership of sending address? Ps. Which country's law are you subject to? What you're trying to do (deprive someone of their funds) just because of lost email access is illegal pretty much everywhere. You need to have procedures in place to cope with such situations. You don't get it! Anyone could claim ownership if they grant the "scammed" user this account. What do you mean by "he's not lying"? Anyone would lie for thousands of USD. Especially if it's in bitcoin with no paper trail. Why wouldn't the user share at least the transaction ID? Or the wallet address? I still don't get that. As far as anyone knows there is not yet a way to crack wallet private keys, that wouldn't take 100000 years. The only way is through Gmail. If the names of the original Gmail account are identical with the names on the notarized Passport copy - that would be a proof enough. Otherwise it's the user's word against the exchange. And the fact that the Gmail was suspended is not a proof of anything.
I agree that BTC-e should have a compliance procedure in such cases.
I propose simplicity - require a phone number with 2FA enabled on registration. Simple. No one (yet) could duplicate a phone number. At least not to my knowledge. If a user wants to change their email - you send them a Google Authenticator/Authy/Other similar app code - and they verify the request with this code. Pure and simple. |
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We have proposed to the user to return his money in his deposit or withdraw bitcoin address!
User refuses!
My theory is that he is trying to steal some unsuspecting member's account for himself. The victim might not even know about this since the email address was changed. I havent used btce in a while, but as far as I remember there is a withdrawal confirmation link sent via email. Perhaps thats why he changed the rmail. Fact is - he changed email, he doesnt have access to Skype (he could change the pw if it was forgotten but he doesnt have access to the email; convenient), he refuses to send a small deposit from the original wallet that he could also restore access to; he doesnt send notarized passport and he refuses to go to a verification office. Yet for some reason he asks for help here instead of a lawyer and cryptodevil is helping him again - for an unknown reason. I think that if he wants help from strangers he has to prove to those strangers that he didnt steal the coins. He cant do that. |
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Hey, mr 'krack-r', how about you use some of your m@d cR@kInG 5K177z to actually format your fucking posts properly and stop repeatedly full-quoting for no good reason? OK, how may of the documents have you seen with your eyes? *I* haven't seen a thing. BTC-E, however, obviously HAVE seen these documents in the private correspondence that has been going on between 'steven' and their support desk for the last 13 months. Second, how does one NOTARIZE a document over EMAIL??? Jesus fucking Henry Christ, how wilfully dumb do you have to be to continue posting your ignorance for all to see? He hasn't notarized them over email, he obviously had it done locally and emailed BTC-E copies of the notarized document! The Idea of Notarization is to see the Notary Stamp (which you could verify by CALLING THEM!) along with your names and address.
Which part of the following are you struggling to understand? I've notarized the documents they have asked for, it's publicly available and has a commission number (#) valid until July 2017. The emailed documents have the notary's information they can verify themselves, that's what he's making clear in this comment that you either didn't bother to read or cannot understand. This is not about bitcoin, this is about a centralised business withholding customer funds even though the customer has used internationally-recognised legal certification to prove he is the same person matching the identity records they already have on file for that locked account. If BTC-E have been given the information they asked for and have not provided any reason or evidence to suggest the notarized ID documentation that has been provided is false, but are continuing to refuse to release the customer's funds back to him, then this has much larger and far more serious implications for their client base as a whole. So GTFO of this thread you idiocy-spamming mong. ~ krack-r is short for crack rock, not cracker, IDIOT!
Anything sent over email could be faked. The official channel is regular mail. Otherwise anything could be faked. Original documents, notarized, not over email. Lets put the cards on the table, here. Is he a shill account of yours? I'm wondering as to why am I arguing with you and not the OP? Unless you're the same person. Mark my words people, if this money go into Steven009's hands within a few weeks the real owner will probably start a similar topic somewhere else. Think how would you feel if someone steals your coins. I am also stunned that you claim you haven't seen a thing, and you're siding with him. Why? He might not have been saying the truth. It's a thing humans do to cover their asses, when they do wicked shit. In any case it appears that you know something no one else knows. Since you're "the police" (almost peed from laughter) here.
Looks like you haven't read the previous posts and screenshots, provided by the scammer:
Just a reminder. He claims that he notarized the screenshot, showing him sending the coins to the address. This is not serious. He denied sending the passport.
And once again - if he is saying the truth it's simple - just send notarized documents via regular mail (stamped and everything) and the whole thing goes away.The resistance from doing the above shows that the person is not genuine. Means he has something to hide. Anyway - I hope the real owner figures it out before it gets too late. The fact that he didn't file a complaint with the Police, or another institution is very fishy. Extremely fishy I'd say. A normal person wouldn't wait for 1 year. If the exchange delayed replies, someone who actually owned the money would have went berzerk, and would have sent a lawyer. |
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I think you're a liar and a thief. I think you're an idiot who is spraying their ignorance all over this and other threads. See how this works? Only I've actually got good reason to assert such and will explain below: Why else would you hide your email?
And if your real name is Steven how do you speak fluent Russian?
I understand Russian and your translations are spot on.
Google translate woudlnt have translated the messages correctly. Nobody thinks his real name is Steven, you moron. Is your real name "krack-r"? You might understand Russian but you clearly do not understand how to read English, particularly the parts where 'Steven' hasn't actually translated anything but has, instead, simply replied in English to what he believes is an accurate interpretation of what BTC-E support has said to him in Russian. Show a real ID with the names registered in the account (you can hide the sensitive data) + the document that support said was photoshopped. Firstly, he doesn't have to show *us* anything, especially idiots like you. Secondly, back to your obvious reading comprehension problem: I've notarized the documents they have asked for, it's publicly available and has a commission number (#) valid until July 2017. Reason why they don't want to unlock my account is simply because they believe I photoshopped one of the documents (a wallet transaction, which I had no reason to do so). All I did was cut the parts on the screenshot that were not relevant to BTC-E (later on I sent them the original, untouched version).
Then, for some reason, you think you are entitled to all of this arrogant stupidity: I dont see a problem with you showing a document with txid on it.
Why do I think that?:
We dont know your email;
We dont know your wallet address;
We dont have the txid;
We dont know where are you from;
We dont know why wouldnt you send a notarized ID.
Usually when someone has this problem they treat it with urgency.
And for some reason you waited for 13 months. That tells quite a story. *You* don't see a problem with posting personal details on a public forum? As I said, you're an idiot. 'Steven' is perfectly entitled to anonymity outside of the private information he is supplying to BTC-E themselves. Also, as more evidence of your monumental stupidity and reading comprehension issues, which part of "I've been on and off with them for the past 13 months and it's becoming exhausting." sounds like he 'waited' 13 months? If I had a blocked account </snip> Nobody gives a fuck what you would do, you're an idiot who doesn't actually read the content of threads before posting, remember? This user's password was reset recently. ORLY? That *must* be more evidence of his guilt, right? Date Registered: January 05, 2017 Idiot. To summarize: very convenient, the "owner" has lost his email, phone number, skype, btce wallet and is unable to provide ID. Seems legit!
You people make it possible for scammers to thrive. Please be vigilant and ban this hacker from the forum! I'm an idiot who doesn't like to think before I post multiple copies of the same bullshit accusations
There, FIFY. What you've actually done, through posting this same misinformed, ignorant bullshit post on THREE FUCKING THREADS, is to give BTC-E an excuse to continue pretending like they're justified in withholding this guy's bitcoin from him. A guy who, let's not forget, *has* provided them with legalised document proof of his identity AND details of trade transactions from the locked account and anything else they want OTHER than the things he has already explained he no longer has access to which, contrary to your basement-dweller dumb-fuckery, does actually happen in real life. What your epic display of stupid has done has resulted in BTC-E, 20 minutes later, sending me not just one but TWO of their rare replies to this issue: ...utterly shocking degree of stupid...
Have you read this information? Hello
We invite users to Moscow for verification in our office
^^^ @BTC-E No! This is unacceptable and unreasonable. No company has the right to demand its customers have to travel to resolve a problem, let alone to another country. You're behaving extremely unprofessionally. The customer has all the identity documents you want, he has had them legalised, he can send you hard copies by courier if he has to. STOP STALLING! You should be ashamed of how badly your exchange is handling this situation. I'd be embarrassed to work for a company which treated its customers so poorly. Moreover I am finding this whole charade of obvious delays and excuses to be highly suspicious. OK, how may of the documents have you seen with your eyes? Second, how does one NOTARIZE a document over EMAIL??? The Idea of Notarization is to see the Notary Stamp (which you could verify by CALLING THEM!) along with your names and address. And I am kind of confused. Are you the owner of this bitcoin? Why are you so keen on not disclosing even txID? Perhaps you have multiple accounts here and you don't want other members to know! and GOING TO VERIFICATION OFFICE IS VERY REASONABLE IF YOU HAVE 100S OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARSI am tired of scammers claiming of "bitcoin privacy". In this case it has to be broken, otherwise you would prove that you're a thief. A normal person wouldn't even be discussing this online. They'd just go and get their money back!!! What you prove with your posts is that you're the main man in this long con! Best way to prove someone wrong is to present evidence. And the word of an unknown newbie, who doesn't disclose any information, not even txID over the word of one of the biggest exchanges is not a proof of anything else, but what a moron you are! I don't care about trust rating in this forum, because there is no way to filter the bullcrap! Anyone could leave anyone else good or bad rating depending on their mood. But the fact is that people like you make it easy for scammers to steal bitcoins. And what - you lost a ton of stolen cash, right!? Someone might claim to have forgotten their email, but email, passport, phone number, skype... Come on! Do you think everyone here is an idiot? Throwing insults makes you look that much guiltier! And If I have to read this non-sense in order to save a honest person's savings then so be it! |
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Please ignore the scammer Steven009. Ask him to provide a notarized copy of his passport (the entire document) with a written statement - not through email, but regular mail, or send it via an attorney. Take a look at my reply to him: I think you're a liar and a thief. You hacked someone's credentials to btc-e and changed the email so that you could change their password and transfer the coins to you. Why else would you hide your email? Because you think that anyone having it might try the same. Scumbag! Did you expect that a forum member will help you to defraud some poor bastard? And if your real name is Steven how do you speak fluent Russian? I understand Russian and your translations are spot on. Google translate woudlnt have translated the messages correctly. Show a real ID with the names registered in the account (you can hide the sensitive data) + the document that support said was photoshopped. Then when we will all see it and we will judge if its real or not. I dont see a problem with you showing a document with txid on it. I think you faked it and this is all a desperate attempt to steal lots of money. Why do I think that?: We dont know your email; We dont know your wallet address; We dont have the txid; We dont know where are you from; We dont know why wouldnt you send a notarized ID. Usually when someone has this problem they treat it with urgency. And for some reason you waited for 13 months. That tells quite a story. If I had a blocked account with thousands of dollars (as you claim), I'd hire a lawyer to visit the business address of btc-e with notarized documents proving ownership. If you're genuine - just do that. But you're not. You dont want a lawyer involved. Because you're not who you're pretending to be. A few questions: 1. How much bitcoin did you have in your account before it was blocked (non-confidential info, available freely on the blockchain for anyone and any transaction); 2. What's the Blockchain Wallet address, associated with the account (another non-confidential detail available on the blockchain)?; 3. How do you know Russian so well? My theory: you wont share the above details because the real owner of the bitcoins will find out who stole them. FYI forum members, on top of everything: Trust summary for Steven009 This user's password was reset recently. Please check the comment he left for btce:  To summarize: very convenient, the "owner" has lost his email, phone number, skype, btce wallet and is unable to provide ID. Seems legit! You people make it possible for scammers to thrive. Please be vigilant and ban this hacker from the forum! |
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I think you're a liar and a thief. You hacked someone's credentials to btc-e and changed the email so that you could change their password and transfer the coins to you. Why else would you hide your email? Because you think that anyone having it might try the same. Scumbag! Did you expect that a forum member will help you to defraud some poor bastard? And if your real name is Steven how do you speak fluent Russian? I understand Russian and your translations are spot on. Google translate woudlnt have translated the messages correctly. Show a real ID with the names registered in the account (you can hide the sensitive data) + the document that support said was photoshopped. Then when we will all see it and we will judge if its real or not. I dont see a problem with you showing a document with txid on it. I think you faked it and this is all a desperate attempt to steal lots of money. Why do I think that?: We dont know your email; We dont know your wallet address; We dont have the txid; We dont know where are you from; We dont know why wouldnt you send a notarized ID. Usually when someone has this problem they treat it with urgency. And for some reason you waited for 13 months. That tells quite a story. If I had a blocked account with thousands of dollars (as you claim), I'd hire a lawyer to visit the business address of btc-e with notarized documents proving ownership. If you're genuine - just do that. But you're not. You dont want a lawyer involved. Because you're not who you're pretending to be. A few questions: 1. How much bitcoin did you have in your account before it was blocked (non-confidential info, available freely on the blockchain for anyone and any transaction); 2. What's the Blockchain Wallet address, associated with the account (another non-confidential detail available on the blockchain)?; 3. How do you know Russian so well? My theory: you wont share the above details because the real owner of the bitcoins will find out who stole them. FYI forum members, on top of everything: Trust summary for Steven009 This user's password was reset recently. Please check the comment he left for btce: To summarize: very convenient, the "owner" has lost his email, phone number, skype, btce wallet and is unable to provide ID. Seems legit! You people make it possible for scammers to thrive. Please be vigilant and ban this hacker from the forum! |
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real exchanges dont look like a 12 yo has made them
also they advertise through google and just announce their existence here
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Buy 3-6 bitcoins daily.
Payment method OneVanilla Visa Prepaid card $500 only.
my rate is %58-%60
i only use escrow, paxful or localbitcoins pm me here for more info.
please specify your rate i dont get it also - your payment is not clear as well formulate it better in english, please |
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Thats its. Contact me if interested, but no newbies, only trusted members.
im interested got the coins Just for the record so everybody knows. Everytime I tell him that we should use escrow, he doesnt answer He is scammer, thats obvious U are a liar and a thief. I do everything through paxful. And many people actually were scamed by you. http://imgur.com/a/eLyYOA picture says 1000 words, doesnt it?You actually scammed many users!!! Scam Accusation against DonateloSo fuck you. this IS from your topic, LIAR: I have 0.12 btc for this trade.
Will accept webmoney only.
Rates by pm.
I will not send bitcoins first, so youll need to do that or we use forum escrow.
Conveniently asking users to send first, knowing that escrows here dont reply and denying Paxful Unlike all yall I have trust rating of 100% on Paxdul by verified members. They rate you there if you trade. Otherwise its impossible to post ratings. Those users got nothing to do with me. Anyway, like I told you before, we can trade and I can sell you all my pokerstars, but using paxful. Hope you agree, because this is the third time that you offer to sell me btc using pokerstars, but banish when I mention paxful (and yes, I have the conversations and his posts in the pokerstars threads). why did you leave me a red comment then? have we traded? and please remind me when did i ask you to send me anything first? |
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I have 0.12 btc for this trade.
Will accept webmoney only.
Rates by pm.
I will not send bitcoins first, so youll need to do that or we use forum escrow.
no one will send you first anything please restrain from those kind of suggestions that being said i would trade through paxful People farming acc on this forum. So if i buy hero acc for 0.04 it will make me well trusted? No! So dont look at my status! We are all anonymous people here. Forum escrow or you send first! Period. If you dont like it, please look elswhere dont speak to me with that tone i said paxful - like the otc exchange that offers auto-escrow and many people trade daily but youre obviously against fair trade if i read another "send me first" post you're getting red tagged i didn't said you need to send first. but i am not sending first as well. i am not using Paxful, because i have send yesterday withdraw from Paxful and it has been stucked for 17h (check my last post if want to verify that). so forum escrow or get the f out of here. if you write me again about sending first, or who is reputable here in forum, i will send you negative feeback. my topic, my rules. go waste others time, not mine kid even if you do i wont be red tagged and where did i say that i wan you to send anything first you obviously have no idea how paxful works beware traders i have no idea how Paxful works? Yes i do, and i have 100% positive score there. ESCROW is welcome. You have open scam accusation against you, scammer. |
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The guy is a liar, scammer and a thief. I red tagged him.
Please do so as well. His rating must be as low as possible. As he spreads lies about users that dont secomb to his lazy scam attempts.
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avoid this scammer !!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!
how we do this?
This was sent to me and I havent even read it. When did I ask you to send first? And even if I did who the hell are you? You ask for that in your topics! BTW: According to the website Im trusted and you're not |
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Thats its. Contact me if interested, but no newbies, only trusted members.
im interested got the coins Just for the record so everybody knows. Everytime I tell him that we should use escrow, he doesnt answer He is scammer, thats obvious U are a liar and a thief. I do everything through paxful. And many people actually were scamed by you. http://imgur.com/a/eLyYOA picture says 1000 words, doesnt it?You actually scammed many users!!! Scam Accusation against DonateloSo fuck you. this IS from your topic, LIAR: I have 0.12 btc for this trade.
Will accept webmoney only.
Rates by pm.
I will not send bitcoins first, so youll need to do that or we use forum escrow.
Conveniently asking users to send first, knowing that escrows here dont reply and denying Paxful Unlike all yall I have trust rating of 100% on Paxdul by verified members. They rate you there if you trade. Otherwise its impossible to post ratings. |
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