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181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which altcoins can change the world? on: September 27, 2017, 12:38:39 PM
If you want to invest in a good project, you'll have to take a lot of your time to read whitepapers, check credibility, and compare with other projects on the same area.
Lot of them are scam but some are ready to pump
That is true you really need to study all those stuffs and compare everything up, just to assure that you'll get the profit that you should be getting at this point. It is also good for Bitcoin to have its value got pumped up since the last few months because it somehow have affected the Altcoins itself. Well if you would've put it so bluntly, after earning those so called Altcoins after that specific project or ICO that you've joined, you'll eventually convert it to Bitcoin for some more profit if you know what I mean.
182  Economy / Economics / Re: How to teach kids about Bitcoin? on: September 27, 2017, 11:52:59 AM
Its better to teach kids somethinh that would be fun for them or it will just be a waste of time since most kids would only take interest if its fun so if your really want to teach kids about bitcoin, then add bitcoin as prize they can win in dice, or use some terms relating to bitxoij in their crosswords, thats up to you.
I will agree with you in this regard that kids only get excited to explore those things that seem interesting to them and if we really want to give them the concept of bitcoins, we can teach them via videos or video games. Moreover some cartoon clips should be made to promote bitcoins.
Why do we need to pressure the kids? We don't need to force them to get exposed in something that is very complicated in a way that, you really need to get familiar not only in Bitcoin but also in the web as well. And why do we need to do such effort? Bitcoin is just sitting there around the corner, time will come for them to have the chance to know Bitcoin, but not that early, don't forget that they're still children.
183  Economy / Economics / Re: Money above all things, Yes or no ? on: September 26, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
Today, many people are madly crazy with money. They make money as purpose of life, so grow as an individualist and this's very irony but real happening even around us.
True, if you could only see the true cause of letting money infiltrate even our own personality. It greatly changes a person's attitude and the way of living. I mean, most of the time, they will do everything just to make money, even their body they will sold. I mean there are plenty of things to earn money then why not earn it in an honor way. Not only those, some people will even sacrifice his own country just to make money, talk about corruption and stuffs.

It is not quite right to make money above all things, it will only make us inhumane.
184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do Altcoins really have a future? on: September 26, 2017, 05:12:18 PM
Obviously. As long as bitcoin has a future which I am sure it has, there is always a bright future for many different altcoins(Ethereum, Litecoin, DeepOnion etc). On the other hand, the shitcoins are simply useful short term holding and not good as long term investments.
To tell you that truth mate, Bitcoin has nothing to do with the Altcoins, you see they all have different aspects and concepts in their increase in values. Therefore, whenever the price of Bitcoin goes up, it doesn't mean that all the Altcoins will go up too, it is most likely that some merely as popular as Bitcoin will have the most out of it, what I mean is that they will have the chance to get rise in their price as well.

But if somehow Bitcoin drops its value, then again it doesn't mean that the Altcoins will also drop its value, instead somehow some of them will continue on increasing. And you know what that means? It means that they will somewhat have the opportunity to even replace Bitcoin in the future, its just that Bitcoin has all the relevance it needed right now, but it won't last as you think it would.

Well basically, what I'm trying to say is "think again".
185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Don't invest in ICOs without working products. on: September 26, 2017, 04:54:16 PM
LOL, almost all of them do not have working products! I agree with the OP, the ones without products are the easiest scams.
If you would think of it as an investor and not some judgmental user, then I think you would reconsider on the statement that you've said.

The main reason why most of the ICOs don't have 'working products' is as clear as water. It is because this is their reason they wanted to have an ICO for their product, to raise FUNDS for their project to have WORKING PRODUCTS, do you understand now.

To put it more simple, they can't work because they don't have the balance that they needed, therefore they make an ICO for it and gather investors for the product in order for them to produce WORKING PRODUCTS.
186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is Stakes? on: September 25, 2017, 02:01:43 PM
Are you talking about bounties stakes or Proof of stake?
What he really wanted to ask is that what is stakes and what does it do.

Well stakes are the number points you're earning every end of the week or at the end of the ICO itself. And that points are determined if you really have finished the necessary numbers of post that the ICO requested. And the number of stakes depends on what rank you currently have, the higher the rank the more stakes you'll earn.

And what stakes really do is that, it will be your ticket to what will be its value of tokens that you will be receiving after the ICO. So basically the manager of the campaign have the formula for it, the number of participants and your rank will affect the numbers of tokens you will be getting.
187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Don't invest in ICOs without working products. on: September 25, 2017, 01:40:52 PM
Talking about ivnesting in Initial coin offerings with working products, I invested in Opus. They had a great working alpha before the ICO and collected 5 MIL USD during the ICO. For some reason the prices have dropped 20% less than the ICO price. Same is the case with Blackmooncrypto.
That would probably the most common result if the project is currently in progress and wanted some investors to make the rise the of the pool of the collected value of the ICO overall. But according to what you've said it dropped 20% less that the ICO price, isn't it very suspicious? Is it really that trustworthy, the ICO I mean.
188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Effects of ICO ban in China on: September 25, 2017, 01:13:50 PM
China only prevented people and organizations from laundering and scammers. Since ICOs are established and China really let ICOs in their country, I think the best way to do is investigate those who are scammers and let them outside the organizations. You cannot prevent or stop people in using or investing in alt coins. There are many alt coins that people have trusted for years.
By doing an investigation about who really are the scammers, I think that would be a long time progress to do since they need not to just go make an investigation, they also need to be inside that organization to be able to identify if that specific organization is not doing what it suppose to do.

That is true that many altcoins have already the trust of these people but since some of the ICOs are just fake demands or something, so still there are things that needs to consider.
189  Economy / Speculation / Re: John McAfee: Bitcoin will go above 500k $ in 3 years on: September 25, 2017, 12:42:23 PM
Well well, let's just wait and see what happens in the next 3 years.
He bets about it, right?
It's true for a long term the price will go up and maybe much higher.
But, what do we know?
3 years will be about the halvening time again.
I know this might not be accurate but it is most likely be the closest thing to happen after 3 years. What I mean is that the altcoins will start to make their entrances and make their way even more near to Bitcoin's current value. It is also good to support these different ICOs that are currently having massive numbers this days, although some of them are just fake demands or something still it helps the prices of of the altcoins to go up.
190  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Is Falling Down? on: September 25, 2017, 12:14:41 PM
When did you post this because it is nowhere near Polly? I've seen these Post in these threads all week long and the fact is that there are very small discrepancies and very small drops there's nothing anywhere near what would what would be considered a drop. I don't know where everybody's getting their information from because it is holding steady at 4,000 with very small drops.
Well Bitcoin didn't have such discrepancy the last few months since the last Fork/Segwit. I mean yeah I also think that it is not kinda of thing that can be considered as a 'drop' but hey, the banning of China did cause a ripple effect in the price for the past few weeks. But then again it is not a major problem, though I also think that it made the progress of rising the Bitcoin's price resulted a halt, we it drags a little of it if you know what I mean.
191  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Pay hotel stay cost with token (Altcoin) on: September 24, 2017, 09:53:07 AM
Now more and more ICO has a creative program. For example ICO I follow www.HotelChain.io .Who owns the project makes a payment token for the Hotel. Will this make it easy for Cryptocurrency users to stay at the hotel?
If they want to make a payment  in the hotelchain using altcoin or cryptocurrency, I think is good and much better to use bitcoin as mode of payment because it is more easy for the customers to use this than ICO program token its very very seldom for the ICO that will be implement it at once.
I would be very amazed when I can make a reservation at any hotel in the world and pay using tokens but in fact many 5-star hotels in my country do not even know bitcoin? how they will accept an altcoin token? unless #hotelchain has co-operation throughout the hotel in all countries but that is impossible to do right ?
Yes it is currently not possible since not all countries are not even accepting Bitcoin yet and worse, some banned it so, not even Altcoin can be available in that country, so what more if tokens? That is just plainly exaggerating, I mean if the hotels wants to adapt this kind of currency they first need some confirmation that its been using in economic purposes, and it has to successful.

It is quite impossible for now, but in the future maybe. I wish I could live the day when that happens.
192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Altcoins that might survive in the future? on: September 24, 2017, 09:27:02 AM

It seems to me that only promising alcoins with the economy in the code will survive, with an interesting and necessary idea that will come in handy in the future. Definitely. Wink
You didn't even mentioned a single altcoin there and you said that, something that is promising, with an interesting and necessary idea that will come handy in the future? You're being so general and very broad there, how about making statement that is more clear and somewhat have attribute of what you've mentioned in your statement.

For example, a very promising altcoin that have interesting and necessary idea that will come handy in the future is Ethereum. Because not only that it is second to Bitcoin because of its value, it also have the potential to make an impression in the future, well maybe it could walk beside Bitcoin or maybe even greater it could surpass Bitcoin.
193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HOW LONG CAN ALTCOIN LAST ? on: September 24, 2017, 09:15:01 AM
As long as the bitcoin lasts,altcoins may continue following its path.
I don't believe that would be the case because Bitcoin is just only the first successful coin in the cryptos, I mean it is currently in the first spot because its value sky rocketed to the moon in just few years. And altcoins are the coins that are just next to it. I mean what if one day an altcoin surpassed Bitcoin then based on what you've said all other altcoins will follow Bitcoin down?
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Altcoins are actually dependants on a financially emotional support an we know that is bitcoin encouraging people toward altcoins.
I don't understand this statement that you're trying to say. I mean Bitcoin has no intention on encouraging people towards altcoins because it will likely to affect Bitcoin in a way.
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Whenever the price of bitcoin goes down,altcoin market also gets influenced.
It is true at some point, but sometimes Altcoins got pumped whenever Bitcoin dumps. Maybe you should see the boards to get a clear view of what I'm saying.
194  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin without China on: September 24, 2017, 09:04:23 AM
I don't think bitcoin needs china to achieve its new heights. China is big country, it can be much beneficial for bitcoin but Many famous company like Google  Amazon achieve their new heights without invest in China. So bitcoin can also achieve its new heights without support of china.
It is true that Bitcoin don't need China to reach new heights but the thing my friend is that, it made a great impact to its value, as you can see for the last few weeks the price of Bitcoin  dumped so quickly in mass value just because of losing China. At the current state it is still fine because we know that the price of Bitcoin is incremental but then again it will have a slow progression before it get back to its normal state that is.
195  Economy / Speculation / Re: As BTC raises..ETH will fall! on: September 24, 2017, 08:47:36 AM
there are a lot of reasons for ETH price falling hard. most of them have to do with the fact that ETH is a big pump and dump scheme and also another important fact that people overlook is that one of the reasons why ETH was pumped this hard was the existence of ICOs. countless ICOs were created and each required ETH tokens to participate which creates a fake demand and pumps the coin.

as people stop buying into ICOs and as they realize how scamy they are, additionally the Chinese government banning ICOs all lead to removal of that fake demand and dumps ethereum price.
Are they really mostly fake demands and dumps because of the ICOs? I thought that they were just tokens that have been forked to Ethereum. I mean Ethereum did really well when it comes to its price and making its way more closer to Bitcoin for the past few months that have passed, even though Bitcoin too have pumps that merely skyrocketed to the moon.

Hmm that made me think, I thought that China banned the ICOs just to say that "we don't need that" because they are pretty much very powerful Economic-wise, but instead we have this little detail that we are obviously missing out.
196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum is long term investment on: September 23, 2017, 09:04:24 AM
Ethereum is very similar to bitcoin in this matter. All those burnt gases are raising the price so it is very long term investment in my opinion.
Yeah I agree, it is more like, Ethereum is Bitcoin 2 years ago. Its funny how we see this altcoin being so close to Bitcoin that is. If there would be a chance that Bitcoin and Ethereum have been created at the same time, I'm sure Ethereum would be the number one spot. As you can see ETH has even more potential than of Bitcoin. I know Bitcoin have other attributes that we could assume that took it to the current spot. But then again if you would compare Bitcoin to Ethereum discarding the value, it is more superior.
197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Which coin now you think had a good future on: September 23, 2017, 08:42:32 AM
The first coin that come to my mind is Bitcoin will have a good future.

For alt coin, I will think that ETH and LTC should have good future.
How could you just say it so straightforward? I mean you don't even have some supporting statements about your claims on ETH and LTC being close to Bitcoin value wise that is.

Okay, we all know that ETH is 2nd to Bitcoin, it would much likely to have the closest thing to say that it will have the high expected price to the incoming years. And we all know that many ICOs are forked to Ethereum, so it will be easier for those people out there who are interested in joining such campaigns to earn profits that is.
198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: scammers in bounty programs; what do they deserve? on: September 23, 2017, 08:25:25 AM
not everyone involved in bounty can follow and complete their work, because of many factors;
1. his project campaigns are numerous
2. busyness in real life
so I think the only rules in the campaign that can prevent scammers
what rules, for instance?? you mean it is just fine?
dude! bounties pay someone for his or her precious time and sincere efforts which they offer. It needs not someone to spend all the day watching a project(in which they have taken part). just get online once a day to complete your tasks. how long may it take? 2 or 3 hours!
consider it as part time work.


I am not a part of any bounty yet. But want to know if giving daily 3 hours, How much one can earn?
Very little my friend its not worth it really, but if you're not after the money and you cared about the success of the project then go ahead and join such bounty. Its like you're just advertising some details to their project and making those people who're not aware to such project will get to know this. And this would much likely be one of the reason why these projects reach success since many people will get to know this stuff.
199  Economy / Speculation / Re: Pricing over 4K ,thinking about buying on: September 23, 2017, 08:07:58 AM
Right now would be a great time to buy. As i've stated many times before: Do not buy just cause the price is going up.

You see if you just have a bit of patience then you'll find a dip which will be the perfect time for you to accumulate bitcoin at. Right now the price is at $3600, which is a $600 discount from the $4100-4200 level you wanted to buy at.

Still though i think price has potential to go down some further. Only buy with some, not all of yoru funds.
That is right since there will be a coming fork on November. We are now experiencing the ripple effect of it, though the epicenter is still months away. You're suggestion on buying is not bad and I agree that somewhere in the middle or late October there will be a big dump. The buyers will have their opportunity to have such profits if the timing is right.

I believe it will dump until 2.5k or something. So be updated always, this is an opportunity to those investors out there, and to the whales as well.
200  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin a road to 10k. on: September 23, 2017, 07:56:59 AM
I think if btc will have 2 mounts without fud we will see 10k

2 months? It is short in my opinion, we don't know when the price of bitcoin can reach $10k but for 2 months I really think it is not enough. And besides we are not even half of $10k, we can't endure and avoid those FUDs they are everywhere and they want to buy at dip so they'll spread some false news, false information and will change the real details from those countries that are having some regulations about bitcoin.

I believe around 2018 or end of 2018, that is if the upcoming hard fork of Bitcoin and implementation of segwit2x is a success.  This will open lots of development to Bitcoins and will address the problem of Bitcoin scaling that is one of the major problems that affects Bitcoin price.  Aside from that, if China is done with its hostilities and reopens its door to Bitcoin exchanges.  This happening can fuel Bitcoin price to break series of ATH until it reaches $10,000 per piece.
It does not need to wait long time like your said. On November of this year, we will see new fork in Bitcoin system and the price of Bitcoin will have many fluctuation. Maybe, it will drop down like other fork in the past.
I agree since the price of all the cryptos are incremental and absolute. I mean since the last fork who would've though that the value of Bitcoin will reach 4k but the only predicted price is 3k. So it is not possible if Bitcoin could reach 10k late this year.

Yeah some dumped will happen like what we are currently facing right now, having drops but still there's no need for us to panic, we are talking about Bitcoin here, what could possibly go wrong.
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