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1801  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Minimum Amount To Start Trading? on: October 25, 2016, 01:20:43 PM
Trading in altcoins can be started even at 0.001btc but that kind of trading doesnt worth any think,the minimum amount i say should be 0.25btc reserved for that.Its not neccessary to use them all at once,must that much must be in reserve.
I think even 0.1 btc would be sufficient.In fact there is no minimum amount needed for trading but if you want to make big,invest big but you should be able to afford the risk also

0.25  is actually just  too much for a newcomers to trading job,0.001 is quite effective if you can manage to always making profit and the fees doesn't matter at this time,otherwise still better to save money and gain more to start with higher balance but there's nothing wrong to start with 0.001
how can 0.25 too much to start trading? i guess it is a reasonable amount ,
you can not expect anything if you start trading with 0.001 lol ,
even 0.25 for most trader are still very little capital ,
you need to take a risk even you are a newcomer it is the important thing in trading.
1802  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: October 25, 2016, 01:10:33 PM
Those people who discovered and literally adopt with bitcoins in its early stage are already very rich now if they have the strong hands. The price give them a great earnings and as the new adopters of bitcoins we should also believe if we want to earn as there are still plenty of room of development in terms of price.
true , we just can wish same thing could happened twice now ,
i mean when the early adopters get over 100 times profit ,
we can expect and wish to see bicoin price move up from $600 to $10,000 at least ,
it is something possible that bitcoin do right?
1803  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: October 25, 2016, 12:55:28 PM
I dont think that you can say the one is better than the other because i know for srue that no one is better than the other one becuase lots of peopel are not gettign what they want to the bitcoin and also not with the paypal.
of course you can , each bitcoin and paypal have plus and minus ,
all you need are to campare both and pick which one better based on most people opinions ,
as for now people still prefer to use paypal ,
because several factors like less place to spend bitcoin while paypal have more places.
1804  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: October 25, 2016, 12:35:51 PM
Off course dooes the price of the bitcoin matters how can you buy something that is 6 dollars but you only have the amount of 2 dollars how are ytou able
tyo buy that objec ti dont know.

Thats right, price really matters because if the price of bitcoin was same to other currencies online then it would not have been as popular as it is right now, it is the price that makes it superior from others and it is the price that attracts new people everyday to come and invest in it.
yeah that makes bitcoin become even more popular than the other cryptocurrency is the price of bitcoin itself right ?
I'm sure if the price of bitcoin is only about a few dollars say only $5 certainly nothing special about bitcoin than others cryptocurrency?
bitcoin are not about the final price , but bitcoin about price progress ,
if you still remember bitcoin first price are below $5 , and you think it was nothing special on bitcoin?
no you are totally wrong , people interesting in bitcoin because they know how good the price movement in bitcoin ,
compared to any other crypto curreny or even fiat.
1805  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 25, 2016, 12:11:05 PM
Genoa vs AC Milan Even ac milan in unstable performance but they have some young talented player and sometimes they can make a difference result. i bet on ac milan -0
i am pretty sure ac milan will win against genoa but with small margin only ,
just look at how juventus struggling play against them last time ,
today will be another winning day for ac milan i am sure ,
but a draw no bet for ac milan are not a bad pick Smiley goodluck.
1806  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Freedom on: October 25, 2016, 11:58:37 AM
Absolutely yes, bitcoin makes us freedom and give us money. When I started earning bitcoins I thought it was hard to earn but time by time earnings coins makes it easy as I imagine because I learn about trading, investing, creating blogs and even signature campaign makes me stable in bitcoins. So now I can buy what I want I can save money from my bank account.

Earning chump change through Bitcoin is not freedom, sending money across the globe without government intervention is.  Smiley

Sending money across the globe is freedom, but earning money with bitcoin is also a pace of freedom, as we are our own boss, when we want we do work and when we are busy in other place we take a leave and no one order us in that field, and with bitcoin we also store money with freedom, there is no any fees on us and tax on us by any government by storing our money in bitcoin.
but don't forget with this "freedom" you are responsible on everything you have ,
noone can help you solve your bitcoin problem,
and you can not blame anyone in case in the future something bad happened to bitcoin ,
because this "freedom" you must ready to bear and handle everything by yourself.

That's right and in such a system the law of the jungle applies. If you can't run to anyone for help then you only have your strength to keep you and your Bitcoins safe. Banks, the law and identity verification in the current system make it harder for criminals/thugs to take your money by force. If nobody knows who you are and how many coins you have (something a bank would know) and somebody breaks into your house and forces you reveal your private key and steals everything you have, you're pretty much screwed.
there always a good and bad thing , so in this bitcoin "freedom" too ,
there is a consequences you must take once you decide to use bitcoin ,
however just take it easy don't think too much ,
bitcoin gives you so much advantages just enjoy it as your freedom of money.
1807  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best Bitcoin Business To Create? on: October 25, 2016, 11:48:05 AM
It is actually based on how much money you have for your business but I can still give you some ideas:

1).Bitcoin Wallet that allows exchanging your coins to fiat. (The more currency the better)
2).Gambling site (Requires a lot of money plus it can cost a lot when you're promoting it)
3).Bitcoin to altcoin exchange site
4).Bitcoin Debit Card Services
5).Bitcoin Lending
i am wondering how much cost required to build those bussineses ,
it is totally not newbie friendly , those business are for people who have large amount capital ,
not many people can do it even they have capital enough ,
as investors still have too much doubt in bitcoin and it was the main problem.
1808  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In what gambling games are you good at? on: October 25, 2016, 11:19:26 AM
In case of profit, I will say that I'm good on poker and sports betting. At least I'm not in a lose on those two games, while I'm in negative on other games like dice, roulette, slots and other pure luck based games.
playing poker required a good mood and an intelligence to read situation ,
not much people can do it while playing poker ,
mostly just follow their instinc without consider any other things ,
skill based games like poker are the most game i gambling on.
1809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: October 25, 2016, 10:54:47 AM
If i am very rich will i still gamble? My answer is yes but this time i will gamble for fun and not for profit. I will use gambling as a tool to meet new rich people wherein i can be able to offer them a new business or talk about something that will make us rich more.
lol so now you in not rich condition gamble to get money isn't it?
never gamble to get money , it is only lead you to a destruction ,
gamble only the amount that you can afford to loose and have fun on it not make money ,
that is what the real gambler do , to gamble as entertainment no matter they are rich or not.
1810  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Prediction ligue 1, france football league on: October 24, 2016, 06:51:33 AM
My bet on Ligue 1

Psg vs Marseille WIN PSG at quote@1.30
Caen vs St Etienne UNDER 3,5 goals at quote@1.20
Metz vs Nice DOUBLE CHANCE X2 at quote@1.30

Parlay at quote@2 easy double up

I only missed the PSG which is becoming unreliable. If it continues so PSG may not win the Ligue1 also because the Nice keep flying.
awesome nice they start the season like a boss with balotelli in their squad take a key role.

i guess PSG are not king of ligue 1 anymore , they did not make any progress while nice keep winning and unbeatable so far. does anybody booked nice to win ligue 1? i am wondering how much odds for them? is it as high as leicester last season?

Too fast if we predict PSG there are still about 30 games before the season ended despite declining PSG  performance I'm sure they have a problem
sooner or later they will be back on track PSG still worthy to be the best in the Ligue1
yepppp too early to say PSG are out of ligue 1 title race ,
even though they have a bad streaks result in last 8 games the season still long way ,
indeed nice on fire never have a single lost in league ,
but the real test are to keep it up , to have a consistent performance.
1811  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin be replaced by another cryptocurrency? on: October 24, 2016, 06:36:38 AM
Probably not in the next 10 years. Ethereum took 2 years to come out ,and its just a pile of crap, with all the hacks and scams going on there. (not to mention the hardforks).

Best candidates would be:

LTC = Which is a copycat, so probably not

NMC = Which doesnt really serve as currency

MONERO = Probably high chance, but it doesnt even have a GUI wallet yet, so better make that come out first.


Other than that, there is no viable competitor to bitcoin ,and probably wont be for the next 2 years, and to beat bitcoin...? That would take a lot more than that!
i would like to nominate litecoin instead any other cryptocurrency ,
they have a very strong community and did not often lost too much value ,
even you must realize that the chance this thing to happened very low ,
bitcoin are too big to be replaced.
1812  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: October 24, 2016, 06:02:44 AM
the main problem with most people replying here is that they think risk is equal to gamble so they can never make any profit from.

but in fact this kind of risk has its own way of being measured and you can predict the risks and try to evade them hence making the most profit out of this business.

Well but thing is that it have same risk as gambling, as you can't control how price of currency you have will change so it is really hard to always get profit
You cannot control the price but you can predict the price as it is predictable if you have knowledge about your asset and if you work for its promotion then you will get mote better results. So in trade you know from beginning.
yes that is right and if you are a whale of bitcoin or any asset then you can easily control the price of any asset you have so it is to trade but in gambling everything is hard and impossible.
even a bitcoin whale trader can not control over bitcoin price ,
it may take a little effect like controlled on small area for example on a local exchange etc ,
so you can not control bitcoin price to make your trading job predictable ,
the things make trading interesting are when you are trying to guess and predict the price.
1813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: October 24, 2016, 05:51:58 AM
You do not ned to gamble with your money which are for your life and for your investment in your business so it will not make you wreck and you will lose only that money which will be a little and will be affordable to you to lose.

gambling can not fix your life and its just wreck your life. better you safe your money and not to do gamble so you will have to do another good thing in your life and you can make a good life.
are you sure with your statement about gambling can not fix someone life?
there is a poker player Greg Himmelbrand who before playing poker he just have nothing ,
but then he play poker and earned million dollar ,
do you still think gambling can not fix your life?
Well, that is because there are exceptional people who can make money in gambling but that does not mean that we can also fix our lives, most of us are just typical gambler who does not possess any talent to make gambling as our source of income, other people may but that is hard for us really.
indeed i understand what do you mean ,
someone who have fixed their life through gambling doesn't mean everyone will do have same situation too ,
i just make a respond to his statement about "gambling can not fix your life" and i prove it with a short story ,
don't make this as motivation , but just take a good side.
1814  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 24, 2016, 05:22:25 AM
Today I'm going to do a crazy bet on Roma v Palermo. I expect Roma to win and a lot of goals, but since strange things happen everyday I will risk the Roma and under 2.5 xD

Roma v Palermo
Roma/Under 2.5 Goals @4.3

Wish me luck, I ill sure need it xD
unfortunately as roma play terrific good at home and the game finished 4-1 for as roma ,
mohammed salah did very well jobduring the game scored two goals wasn't easy ,
i just a little bit unlucky when palermo scored a goal as i bet for both teams not to score ,
i never think the game will finished over 4.5 goals .
1815  Economy / Economics / Re: Spending Bitcoins on: October 24, 2016, 05:10:44 AM
the OP was lucky because he lives in australia and he can pay all bills via site, but for other people which not live in australia, then they can do that.

in my country, especially in my city, there are few people which know bitcoin and most of them do not care about bitcoin and for the shops, i am not yet found any local shops that accepting bitcoin as payment.
as time goes by bitcoin will spread to around the world just be patient ,
nowadays USA , netherlands, brazil and australia are the most bitcoin merchants available offline/online ,
spending bitcoin offline are so hard for now in most places ,
just the matter of time until everything established.
1816  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: October 24, 2016, 04:56:13 AM
You do not ned to gamble with your money which are for your life and for your investment in your business so it will not make you wreck and you will lose only that money which will be a little and will be affordable to you to lose.

gambling can not fix your life and its just wreck your life. better you safe your money and not to do gamble so you will have to do another good thing in your life and you can make a good life.
are you sure with your statement about gambling can not fix someone life?
there is a poker player Greg Himmelbrand who before playing poker he just have nothing ,
but then he play poker and earned million dollar ,
do you still think gambling can not fix your life?
1817  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you still believe in bitcoin on: October 24, 2016, 04:42:30 AM
we all is not lost trust us to Bitcoin simply because the price down so low, it was not a problem for us, I believe that Bitcoin has a good future and I hope then that more people will understand what Bitcoin is and start using it.
yes i also never lost trust on bitcoin, and that is the reason that i am still here, i have full trusted on bitcoin and therefore i have invested my money money here for making money.

Me too even bitcoin has a lot of ups and downs, I will going to keep my trust to it because it has given me a very good opportunity for earning real money for working with this crypto currency. And I can say that our trust in bitcoin is worth to be trusted and we don't have to worry about it if we are just going to believe in it.
yepp it is worth as long as you are stay on the line ,
means invest your money into bitcoin only the amount that you can afford to loose ,
never be a good idea to go full trusting on something especially a stuff like bitcoin ,
i do believe in bitcoin too , and i found bitcoin have so much advantages.
1818  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: October 24, 2016, 04:30:10 AM
Ive seen people rage hard on twitch while gambling.
Seen some dude smash his keyboard and cry.
It was in the casino games section of twitch.
That happens when you are not gambling responsibly, the reason behind is you put an amount of money that is not on your budget anymore because you are too confident that you will win but the outcome does not favor you because you play with your emotions and not in your mind and we know gambling sites are good in making trap to make us think that a certain bet is hard to lose.
that was correct , sometimes we are overconfident on placing bets ,
think that you will never lost with that low odds and high chance ,
but well it is gambling anything can happened and it is always against you especially a house edge ,
you guys prefer to bet a normal amount (not yolo) on average odds instead like what op did.
1819  Economy / Economics / Re: Trade house for 1 bitcoin on: October 23, 2016, 11:38:53 AM
In theory, you could do so now if you were in a bind with taxes and wanted to create a capital loss to detect from your taxes. I'm not sure how well that would work in practice though, since you don't see people selling houses for a fiat dollar anymore.
I would not trade in my house for just 1 bitcoin because that is asking for trouble I do not believe that 1 bitcoin is going to be worth as much as a house.
That is crazy and I am sure that I would never do it not even for 2 bitcoin.

It depnds on the timing. At the moment, I can trade my house for 10,000 bitcoins, but in the future, 10 will be fine.
someone have bought 1 box pizza for 10,000 bitcoin before ,
and now you can buy more than 100 pizza with 1 bitcoin only ,
this could be a similar case when bitcoin price rocketed up to $100,000 per 1 bitcoin ,
then you can buy a small house for 1 bitcoin only , it is not something impossible , it is really possible.
1820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: October 23, 2016, 10:42:43 AM
Chelsea vs Manchester United both teams to score has very good chance and it looking potentially safe, I think this match will get finished with draw result because Manchester United is also very strong side, that is why I have my bet on both teams to score.
this is the real test for manchester united and especially for jose mourinho ,
can they beat chelsea at stamford bridge? or get a bad result like previously ?
i bet manchester united to not get a win the match mean they will lost ,
chelsea with the new formation 3-5-2 looks have a better performance they will play attacking.
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