FUD aside, the really interesting question is this: Is the current price normalization on Gox permanent, or will the Gox price quickly rise back above the other exchanges in a week or two when Gox resumes BTC withdrawals but still can't process fiat withdrawals?
Wait are you asking 1 + 1 = 2 ? really? |
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I will give 60% on the dollar up to 100 BTC. For every 1 Gox BTC and I will give you .6 non-Gox BTC.
Willing to use escrow.
I will beat you by 5% 65% up to 200 BTC, just PM me. What? I thought you had assured us Gox was going to die? Amazing, how you are willing to lose all your bitcoin. Simply amazing. Really? because i just bring awareness to noobs who's thinking of taking your deal.... Trading their good coins for possibly stolen coins that can be traced back to SR or illicit act. Good luck explaining this to FBI WTF? Are you insane? You have been exposed as a FUD spreader. Looking to drive down the price and profit from it. I'm clean as a whistle and don't really use BTC for anonymity. I would be happy to give a buyer my full identity and wallet history. And yourself? No, I doubt you would. If you really think MTGOX going down is just a FUD then why the 40% premium? Shouldnt it be lower risk? Why dont you beat me by 5% then? huh? Otherwise, shut the fck up regarding my "profit from it". I dont trade enough to make any profit from spreading BS on here. Look into my post history and you will see i have BTC stuck on MtGOX too. I'm not going to try and beat your price. I named a price. That is my prerogative to choose. If someone is interested they can choose who they think is the safer person to transact with. You are FUD spreader. And a manipulator. And you have been exposed as one. Refresh me.... Otherwise its just your claim thus far. I know what you are but what am i? |
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In 1986 my father got our family a Commador 64C. (Had a Apple II at school.... hated it cause no Defender of the Crown.)
In 1996 I got my own IBM compatible. (AMD 3DNow woot woot)
In 1998 Again school forces me to learn hyper card. Worthless compared to vb.
In 2001 I had to work on a G4 as part of my job...... Where the fuck is the right click I said. This one alone confirmed i would never own one. This also makes me wonder why all graphic designers wear cat eye glasses.
In 2003 I refused to by an ipod cause still where is the right click.
In 2005 When the iphone came out I kept my blackberry.
In 2007 I picked an android.
In 2010 I got a Motorola Zoom for a tablet. Cause still on my fuck apple war path.
In 2012 My wife got an iphone against my recommendation. In a week she sold it and was back to a droid.
In 2014 Apple proves me right once again. Bans every thing Bitcoin.
I have taken allot of shit over the years for not hopping on the apple cart. O and by the way FileMaker is not a database either fuck that program too.
LOL i can relate to many of that.... I'm involved with computer in the early ages so i follow the PC vs Mac very closely. 1997 was my year.... when Apple failed terribly. I remember 1995 when they filed a lawsuit against Microsoft, i knew they ran out of options. Then frankly they got helped by Microsoft to rebuild the brand. Now i see them filing lawsuits every where with their patent trolling. They ran out of option again. They can only live off AppStore and Itune for so long. Its time for them to be gone again. I will wait when they finally sue Google as their last fight. |
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Fonzie, is that you?
No its his mother. The troll even asks his mom for help. |
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I will give 60% on the dollar up to 100 BTC. For every 1 Gox BTC and I will give you .6 non-Gox BTC.
Willing to use escrow.
I will beat you by 5% 65% up to 200 BTC, just PM me. What? I thought you had assured us Gox was going to die? Amazing, how you are willing to lose all your bitcoin. Simply amazing. Really? because i just bring awareness to noobs who's thinking of taking your deal.... Trading their good coins for possibly stolen coins that can be traced back to SR or illicit act. Good luck explaining this to FBI WTF? Are you insane? You have been exposed as a FUD spreader. Looking to drive down the price and profit from it. I'm clean as a whistle and don't really use BTC for anonymity. I would be happy to give a buyer my full identity and wallet history. And yourself? No, I doubt you would. If you really think MTGOX going down is just a FUD then why the 40% premium? Shouldnt it be lower risk? Why dont you beat me by 5% then? huh? Otherwise, shut the fck up regarding my "profit from it". I dont trade enough to make any profit from spreading BS on here. Look into my post history and you will see i have BTC stuck on MtGOX too. |
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And Yeah, never met any of the other resellers until the meeting.... didnt even know we have a AUS reseller until then! I'm taken aback that you weren't aware of the AUS reseller, given that it was announced on Black Arrow's site on Feb. 1, 2014 making a grand total of three resellers, otherwise BA would have added them in a timely manner as they have done so in the past: http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/index.php?dispatch=news.list&sl=enAt least you had the pleasure of meeting the other two resellers, yourself and Flappy. Still odd that the BA guys you met up with never mentioned Ryan Krylyszyn of Rival. ~Bruno Kucinskas PS: I hope nobody mentions Alex Berk before I do. Yeah- evidently it happened the weekend before the meeting, and as you can imagine having a new reseller was the last of my worries after the delay announcement. I think i spent ~4 hours on the phone that weekend with AA to get the dam flight over to the UK. You may have spent ~4 hours on the phone to book a flight to the UK for something that could have easily been done over the internet, but I've been at this desk most all day today doing nothing but researching Black Arrow. Soon, you'll learn that that third reseller should have been your main worry, right after I finish penning my next post for this thread. Stay tuned, bud. ~Bruno Kucinskas PS: And, not a single one of you bastards that I hope to enlighten is kind enough to fetch me a fresh cup of coffee. Madness!  Thanks for all you do,but get a coffee outta Josh,I'm sure you got SOMETHING left over from that 10 BTC  Will you at least give me a pat on the back if my next post is worth your wild?  Sure,you've done a lot good investigating bro,but you get a little zealous with how you do it.Be civil & more folks will pay attention,whats that saying about vinegar & sugar  It'll be civil, bud. Just finishing up with the proofreading. Are we gonna see how BA will buy you off like how Josh did huh you piece of shit? Stop fcking pretending like you're doing anyone a favor here. Whats your price? for you to be my little bitch right now? say it... |
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All of the other laughs in this farcical document aside, this one makes me ROFL the most: 59. If Mr. Meissner had received the Bitcoin Miners in a commercially reasonable timeframe, he would have mined approximately 5,000 to 7,500 Bitcoins with them. Using http://bfl.ptx.ro is can be seen that there are ~185 "known" (known is a loosely used term as this site has no guarantee of accuracy) minirig orders and of these 120 are listed as having been made prior to Mr. Meissner's order. 120 * 5,000 = 600,000 BTC while 120 * 7,500 = 900,000 BTC. According to http://cryptometer.org/bitcoin_72_month_charts.html, by July 1st 2013, ~11,079,800 BTC had been minted and as of now ~12,347,125 BTC has been minted. This indicates that ~1,267,325 BTC has been mined between July and today. According to Mr Meissner;s estimates of his 'losses' he and the 120 other mini-rig purchasers would have mined 50-75% of all of the BTC mined from July until today. I think we can safely raise the BS flag on this claim. After all, it's quite likely that more than double this listed 120 mini-rigs were purchased prior to Mr Meissner's which, by his farcical estimate, would indicate that they would have mined more BTC than actually WAS mined in the last 7 months, leaving nothing for the remainder of you to have mined at all. This lawsuit is so full of BS that it's take a bunch of BTCtalk trolls as jury members to actually force a win for him. Its not full of BS even if he got the correct amount of probable mined coins wrong. BFL didnt even deliver his mining Rigs. Deceiving him about the shipment time frame. Your post is infact full of BS. It only take an idiot to see you're a BFL employee. What a piece of shit that you are. |
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I will give 60% on the dollar up to 100 BTC. For every 1 Gox BTC and I will give you .6 non-Gox BTC.
Willing to use escrow.
I will beat you by 5% 65% up to 200 BTC, just PM me. What? I thought you had assured us Gox was going to die? Amazing, how you are willing to lose all your bitcoin. Simply amazing. Really? because i just bring awareness to noobs who's thinking of taking your deal.... Trading their good coins for possibly stolen coins that can be traced back to SR or illicit act. Good luck explaining this to FBI |
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Apple marketing works. They made you all think they're innovators and leaders in technology.
Anyone brainwashed by the Apple marketing had a right to think that Apple would be Bitcoin friendly.
Well, they're not. If you stop consuming their products now, they win.
Many people are weak minded and easily brainwashed. I've always found Apple's marketing absurd and insulting, by my IQ is in the triple digits too.. +1 I cant agree more. |
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I will give 60% on the dollar up to 100 BTC. For every 1 Gox BTC and I will give you .6 non-Gox BTC.
Willing to use escrow.
I will beat you by 5% 65% up to 200 BTC, just PM me. |
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This is the chart of the "stage of a bubble". Now we are at in the Return to "normal" phase. I will buy Bitcoins during the desapair phase and you should do the same. (If you Google for similar images, you'll see the same patterns in many other finacials bubbles in the past)  Mind the gap! Nick wow a noob found this pic on the interweb!!! Congrats you idiot. As if this hasnt been posted b4 when price crash from $250 - $130, $900-$400, $1200-$600 |
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The first charge i can understand altho i dont agree with most AML (its being lobbied by financial institutes) The BULLSHIT charge is this The second is running an unlicensed money transmission business. Statute 560.125 forbids people from exgaging in frequent unlicensed money transmission-type transactions of more than $300 but less than $20,000 in any 12-month period in the state. WTF is money transmission type ? Obviously prosecutor will throw this BS charge out there knowing public defense is a useless lawyer. Define what is bitcoin first, you fcking piece of shit. Buying high end electronic/audio parts frequently can easily be over $20,000 in year, does that mean i will be charged? Because of this, i doubt the evidence regarding "committing a crime with bitcoin" |
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Here is something out of MtGox's last "transparency report", even if it was a long time ago:  Perhaps from these figures we can extrapolate their current position. 3.5million Yen = 34KUSD at todays rates. The official Japanese rate of inflation in 2013 was 1.6% Anyone recall off hand the figure of their Fincen fine (or whatever it was)? This sounds like the sort of thing Jorge would be good at  Because of the nature of bitcoin, Mark can make MtGox net income very small. He and his associates gain alot more from trading. |
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I would if I could afford it Why don't you mine with them? It looks like you can get a better return that way right now  I guess to sale them with 100%++ profit is the better way then mining. break even at current difficulty is 59 days if you pay $11000 Thats your fail right there.... go bury your head from the embarrassment of failing grade 5 math. wtf? Yeah... current difficulty .... wont be staying for more than 12 days..... do compound percentage on it and .... no its more than likely 100 days...... Thats for getting investment back.... no profiting yet. So ofcourse hes selling to suckers to pay him 100% profit. |
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Like for one they are still fully staffed and not letting people go left and right
As if no one has ever turned up for work one day and found the doors chained shut. There is no reasonable explanation for what people are experiencing from Gox on the BTC side of thing (Fiat problems are a totally different issue) that should have lasted for more than 20-60 minutes, tops. Of course, people should have been getting off of there months ago but this is *BAD*. Bitcoin will prevail but we're up for an interesting few days ahead. I can believe USD problems. I can believe SEPA problems. In isolation from the above, I can believe bitcoin client problems. I am deeply troubled by JPY domestic withdrawal issues. Put all 4 factors together at the same time and it is the exact behaviour of a company that is trading while insolvent. Especially since this pressure has been building for such a long time. I think (for one reason or another) that they have probably been technically insolvent since June when they stopped the USD wires. That bought them some time. It is only now that they have finally had a run on the bitcoin bank and exhausted their ability to string everyone along and the music has stopped. Everyone in the room caught without a chair is SOL. We will see. Gox has been claimed to be dead many times before. They make so much from fees, Karpales would have to drink about 40000 frappachinos a day to burn through that much money. A lot of the volume at Gox could be generated by themselves.. in which case the amount of money they collect from fees could be a lot lower. Another thing that rang suspicious to me is that mr. Karpeles mentioned somewhere (sorry, lost the source) that they had some fiat deposits into their bank account which they had credited into their user accounts, but were charged back by the user, and of course lost btc that way. Ofcourse he can claim all kind of BS to cloud the situation and buying more time. The "whales" on GOX are pretty much Mark's friends and associates who have been making banks thro arbitrage. (They dont have funding withdrawal issue ...) Once GOX goes under, everything will rise up including the truth. |
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I would if I could afford it Why don't you mine with them? It looks like you can get a better return that way right now I guess to sale them with 100%++ profit is the better way then mining. break even at current difficulty is 59 days if you pay $11000 Thats your fail right there.... go bury your head from the embarrassment of failing grade 5 math. |
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The massive holders of bitcoin are hopefully working something out w Mark K if there is something foul at gox. If gox dies, almost no one will buy bitcoin going forward. Who would have guessed that a young dude sitting on a blue ball would be the ruin of such a great idea?
Stupid noobs come here to spread FUD  How original. Stop opening your mouth for a month and READ you idiot. |
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I don't understand. Are there any high-dollar BTC exchanges which are based in FL? I don't think there are any.
Well obviously if you dont read... |
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Bitstamp is what I go buy not Mt.Gox... even BTC-e is better in my opinion
When you cant withdraw ANY fund from the exchange, it doesnt matter what price. Gox price is an illusion. USD fund takes any where from 4-5 months. .... Such jokes. I bet the "whales" that you see on GOX are Mark's friends and associates.... |
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Actually the bitcoin economy relies heavily on mining now. After years of experiment, we cant deny the fact that mining does affect the price supporting level. As such mining difficulty increasing rate, $700 is cheap. It would require alot of capital to be able to mine any good amount of bitcoin hence buying at this price makes alot more sense. B4 $500 is consider a good selling price for miner. Now i think it has to be $700+. Tons of cost into their mining gear, they're not gonna sell it for lower price. Remember its not just about "being profitable" but also ROI. Ppl tend to only looking USD earned - operating cost..... but overlook the capital invested. Its a race against time. The sooner to sell your mined coins at low price, the worsen your mining ROI will be. |
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