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1801  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: February 24, 2017, 07:00:04 PM
We have had a Halving in 2016. The next Reward-Drop ETA has been assumed to meet the 27 June of 2020. A doubling and halving event are related.
But before next halving there would be big chances for 10X growth because we can expect mass adoption in between times. Within 2017, we can expect bitcoin prices to get at least doubled. Simply my thoughts for bitcoins in 2017 would be price may reach $2000 levels. I am already getting prepared for that.
It is unlikely we are going to reach such levels in such a short time frame, don't get me wrong I will like bitcoin to reach those prices, but at the same time I need to get more bitcoin, so I would like for the price to not skyrocket like that.
I don't consider that as skyrocketing of price, in fact that is a conservative projection as last year we have an increase more than 100% and so with what is happening now, it is not possible to get that again. $2,000 may look like a big price for us but it is the desire of the people to adopt and demand of bitcoin that will cause to reach that level, let's be optimistic instead.
It may not seem as skyrocketing but it is way easier for a coin to double it is price if its wort 1 cent than it is for bitcoin to double its price of 1000, a lot more money is needed, adoption, development, so I do consider it to skyrocket.
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Bitcoin will be skyrocket if the development will be much faster.. for now we are seen that the price is increasing and we are already seen the price of bitcoin are actually reach nearly $1200 and hope that it can touch tomorrow..
We can be still grow our bitcoin in many ways not only  to wait for the price increased..
1802  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: February 24, 2017, 06:57:48 PM
Bitcoin cannot make the banks to disappear,
But I think if bitcoin become much more popular in the future the banks should do something,
Maybe adopt this crypto currency or support it in any way that they can.

I agree banks are too powerful. But both can join or cooperate and perhaps work together to make and offer a global fast payment option for the masses. If banks offer bitcoin deposits withdrawals for let's say 50 cent. I think it will be a win win situation for consumers.
Yeah you  are right that bank is strong and it will be survive forever because fiat is the main regular currency which can keep in our bank wallet with safe and fiat used in our daily regular direct shopping and we know that bitcoin is also promoting everyday and I hope that bank will be adopt bitcoin in the future and then anyone can be use bitcoin easily.
I think they will not be cooperate.. banks are connected in government and i think they don't let bitcoin to use it locally since bitcoin still anonymous..
And there is no reverse payment in bitcoin.. what is the buyer protection once they had scam or they receive a wrong service..?
1803  Economy / Economics / Re: Passive Income on: February 24, 2017, 06:54:24 PM
Rent income is not a good passive income. Property tax, building costs, etc. You need to think about expenses like.
Operating the money is the most logical method. So standing money does not make much use to you. By using different investment tools, you can grow your money even more.
A trading system that works independently from you is the best passive income.
rent income in my country is very profitable.

 sometimes you need to take risks for getting some proffits, and that could mean losses sometimes

Which country do you live in?

Rent income can be considered as passive income. But when you rent the house you can not use the house money anymore.
For example, the value of your home is $ 1 million. You get $ 5,000 in monthly rental income. You get $ 60,000 a year.

But you can evaluate 1 million dollars with different investment tools. It can earn you more than 60 thousand dollars.

That money can definitely be invested in a way that will generate you a better return, but you then for example need to start trading (could be stocks or Bitcoin), which then can't be called passive income anymore. Or you need to find something else that will generate you better returns every month. $60,000 per year is 6% in gross returns isn't all that bad. Much better than having that same money sit in your savings account for a poor below 1% interest rate.
I think only banks that can give that interest for investment.. as we can say passive income.
buying house and start to rent i think we can not say its passive income because not all people can stay long to rent..  the passive income for that the interest is not changing.. but you can invest what you are earn in house rent.. and make more investment and earnings comes to you until you can make large amount of money that you can scaling it up until become rich and buy more house and lots to rent. .
1804  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin transactions confirmation time. on: February 24, 2017, 06:48:37 PM
Recently I've sent $20 for a trade but even after 48 hours its not confirmed yet. Are you guys too facing this issue with bitcoins?

Yes, Bitcoin confirmation times and rates has been the headache of many in recent weeks and I'm tempted to say that it is making our beloved cryptocurrency unpopular by the day and I hope the developers come up with something quick to remedy this situation so that the delays and monetization of Bitcoin will cease.
Probably due to recent price pumping that increases the number of transactions were made thus make the delay occur to the network. Pretty disappointed by the speed of confirmation nowaday honestly, but there's nothing I can do. The best way is just making your fee higher than usual, it's sure working.

Well that's good idea to pay more fee for your transactions but in this isue how if the transactions was sent and the sender didn't remember to add more fees. I think it was too late to add more fees to get faster transactions.
There is no assurance when sending bitcoin to other address or there is no exact time that your transaction will be confirm fast.
Increasing can help but sometimes it takes longer time. this is just what i experience..
Now i am now changing the process and use the bitcoin transaction speeder. where i found in this forum sometimes its not working but most of them are working when i am sending bitcoin in other address..
I dont need to pay more high amount of fee..  here is the address where we can speed up https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/
1805  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins Everywhere? Not yet... on: February 24, 2017, 06:44:29 PM
Yes of course bitcoins is everywhere but not everyone knows about it that's why the entire world has not bitcoins. The problems can be the access of Internet but even if we have Internet we don't know about bitcoin, this is not really famous. For example me, someone told me about it but I would never know if he didn't.
Bitcoin is everywhere you got the point but not all are accepting bitcoin as payment look at the amazon and ebay they are still not accepting.. that is why we have vcc releases right now that actually are reloadable and can be use to buy online shopping anywhere.
1806  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: February 24, 2017, 06:42:25 PM
I feel shameful because it is gambling it is illegal but it makes me happy sometimes if i am on the winning side and i feel sad sometime if i am on the losing side. That is why gambling is not safe so i feel shameful.
If gambling is illegal in your country then that is a different ball game since we are not talking about shame but about a crime, if you gamble over the internet with bitcoin the chances of getting caught are low but I will recommend you stop gambling even if you don’t agree with the law because it is better to stay away from trouble.
I agree with you, Gambling isn't legal in all countries and other countries,It's a bad thing, I don't like this idea about betting, because i always play gambling just for fun, so if you want to play anonymity, You can doing that with cryptocurrency which you are not tracked by government. 
For me gambling is always a way for getting pleasure, and i don't feel shamefull for doing that.
No matter how many restrictions in my country and how bad gambling can be, I still find that gambling is a part of my life and I can never quit it. I am addicted to gambling but I find joyful and happiness while gambling. I only play with the small amount so that losing money is not a big deal. Gambling is not bad, the ways people treat gambling have made other think that gambling is unsafe
Well, it might be a person's profession. many think that it is very bad to gamblers, and it may be very ashamed of being the gambler. but, I think, at this time gambler mostly very rich people, and in las vegas, they all look cool.
As you can seen gamblers in las vegas are almost are rich.. no poor one.. so gambling is only good for rich people and i think those rich people are just halving fun in gambling.. unlike poor people that actually targeting to make a profit,. that turn into lose large amount of money. .
1807  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: payment bitcoin on: February 24, 2017, 06:33:39 PM
Hello, I sent a payment to a Bitcoin address, but since they are a bit 'of experience, I can not see where you finished the payment, I am here hoping to find the answers, I have the receipt issued by coinbase, where I l 'address and the amount paid,:
Paid anonymously through the bitcoin network
so .not to understand that this money has come? thanks for any help, I need to understand
Better to share with us your screen shot or bitcoin address you are using right now or the transaction you made.. so that we know what actually where your bitcoin comes from.. or send..
For now better to reply here more so that we can understand much better to know the real problem.
1808  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will BTC overtake gold this month ? on: February 24, 2017, 06:27:27 PM
I think  will overtake later the gold but not today for sure.
 Today 1139$ the BTC and 1242 the gold.
But of course when you see that  goes up really fast, he will overtake the gold who doesn't go up.
i think the price of gold is stuck to a common price but the price of bitcoin is just keep on increasing day by day and i hope the time comes when it will overtake gold to a extreme level.
Gold is not stuck or staying in the same price yearly you can see the price is increasing but a very small interest yearly..
Unlike bitcoin that you can seen daily the price is changing and the price will nearly $1200 and hope that the price can be increase more soon..
1809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: February 24, 2017, 06:24:33 PM
Yes i like slot games but not in online. I like to play it in real. That's gives much pleasure.
For me its a boring game the same online and offline are boring games.. i am excited if you are the first timer gambler to gamble in slots game..
This is what i feel in the first time but i realize that its boring game much better to gamble with poker or blackjack offline or online..
1810  Economy / Speculation / Re: $1200 on: February 24, 2017, 06:23:07 PM
bitcoin prices really go up and almost touched the $ 1,200 price. I believe, tomorrow for sure the price has exceeded $ 1,200. the speed of price increase is happening so fast. I just hope that these prices will be completely stable in the long term.
I think the price will still not touch at $1200 value and i think the price could be still stay long in this price.. or the price could be decrease soon..
Just lets hope that the price of bitcoin will not go down below $1000 if its  happen the price could be increase and touch to $1200.
1811  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which altcoins that has VCC or debit cards? on: February 22, 2017, 11:33:48 PM
Hi i would like to ask if there are some altcoin here that has vcc or debit card. that we can use for other transaction online or offline..
I would like to get some if there are some altcoin with vcc.. thanks.

Why do not you want to buy in the exchanger?
Where what exchanger offering vcc or debit cards?

Hi i would like to ask if there are some altcoin here that has vcc or debit card. that we can use for other transaction online or offline..
I would like to get some if there are some altcoin with vcc.. thanks.
Not used cards with altcoins am more inclined with bitcoins but you can try
wirex---> https://wirexapp.com/blog/spend-altcoins or
Shapeshift ---> https://www.shapeshift.io

Already tried this man.. i want is new and unique. looking for those new bin never seen before..
1812  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: February 22, 2017, 06:36:38 PM
I think so much that distinguishes between real money and bitcoin. transactions using real money, I think is happening so fast, because it occurs directly. today, bitcoin transaction to be so slow. so, it is one difference.
That can be one difference but technically there are so many differences like the price of currency doesn't increase even if it increases it doesn't make any difference while bitcoins price keeps changing time to time.
Well that was a big difference money is stable one and bitcoin is keep changing in time to time..
But if there is no money bitcoin has no value.. so they are both important.. and we are getting benefits of the price increase of bitcoin while we are exchanging it into real money if the price is low again we can buy again using real money. so each of one has role and they are both important.
1813  Economy / Economics / Re: What will happen 9th march ? on: February 22, 2017, 06:32:27 PM
Im pretty sure at 9th March chinese will dump bitcoin value, since a big exchange had frozened the withdraws, i dont believe they will damage the price a lot but considering the volume the exchange has, its possible bitcoin drop to 900 dollars once again. Whales will play once again with fresh news at bitcoin.
How do you know? no one can know if what will be happen in march 9 we are not fortune teller to know it.. but even know the price can be crash. sooner..
Well i safe sold my few bitcoins and i have the rest if the price continues to increase i sell it..
But for now better to monitor and make sure some signal from other groups.. outside.
1814  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sell or wait? on: February 22, 2017, 06:25:19 PM
Sorry but i can stay long in bitcoin and i want to save profit in safety before the price will fall again..
So for me sell .. i am not waiting for more increase since we do not know exactly how much more will increase bitcoin price..
1815  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why not "Just" increase the block size? on: February 22, 2017, 06:07:32 PM
Im afraid of the block size increase only miners will be get benefits and we are paying much more fee than before..
Honestly before i can pay without a fee in electrum before but now slowly the fee is needed and increased..
I hope if segwit can help why still now we are experience sometimes block size increased.
1816  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Which altcoins that has VCC or debit cards? on: February 22, 2017, 06:03:15 PM
Hi i would like to ask if there are some altcoin here that has vcc or debit card. that we can use for other transaction online or offline..
I would like to get some if there are some altcoin with vcc.. thanks.
1817  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you Still believe in Fiat? on: February 22, 2017, 05:48:22 PM
Our bitcoin wallet that based on philippines can shop to amazon and their are upgrading their business now so it will be more smoth than other website, im sure that bitcoin will be implemented to use us payment method. Im waiting for the next update that bitcoin can be use to shop from super market.

There's nothing special about that at all since any bitcoin wallet can be used to buy from Amazon using purse.io. I think one of the ways bitcoins can be used to shop in a super market is when there's a bitcoin card or something similar. Although I don't see it coming in the near future because every super market would have to adopt to that new technology and update their machine so they can accept bitcoin cards.
I Think not only amazon that we can use from philippines.. wallet. they are already added a vcc which is working to any website that accepting vcc or prepay reloadable vcc.. that you can buy in amazon ebay or any shop online that accepting credit card or vcc..
1818  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how strong is bitcoin really? on: February 22, 2017, 05:37:07 PM
If bitcoin was easy to hack, there will be no bitcoin to begin with.

Yes, hacking bitcoin looks like an impossible mission, even we use top 10 supercomputer, we should spend 100000 centuries to decipher it. LMAO.   Cheesy
There are still many things which can not be solved. Attack 51% is one of the example for the weakness of Bitcoin. Never underestimate this danger since it can reverse all the transaction or control everything in the blockchain. I hope that other cryptos can fix this bug and replace Bitcoin
Where did you find that think that bitcoin can be reverse.? never experience this yet.. and hope that it will never happen..
If it will happen it will be the same as paypal that you can reverse the payment but how you can start a case to get your payment back?
Since sending bitcoin is taking time to arrive and waiting for confirmation before countred to your balance. and never experience reverse except for pending one..
1819  Economy / Economics / Re: What if US Dollar Crashes? on: February 22, 2017, 05:26:50 PM
If it happens, the US government will adopt Bitcoin or any other worthy cryptocurrency in place of the USD and the demand for the currency replacing the dollar will causevitvtobgain more value than the existing ones and will hence replace the dollar as the global currency.

Nope. What they'll do is raise interest rates. Interest rate rises squeeze inflation out of the system, and also make a currency more attractive to investors, causing them to buy dollars to get the interest.

The Fed raised rates in december, and will likely raise again in either March or April. Given that other countries are not raising rates, the likelihood of the dollar crashing is slim to none.
And also there is no possibility that usd will be down and replace by bitcoin..
Bitcoin is just a alternative payment method online like other VCC and online reloadable cards that you can use for online shopping.. many disadvantage about bitcoin that needs more develop in order to accept and use by many people.. for now for those who are getting benefits for bitcoin are still staying in bitcoin..
1820  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or zcash? on: February 22, 2017, 05:23:16 PM
I see some of you are young. In the 90's it appeared Microsoft would be king forever, now they are losing market share every gear. Before that, Xerox, most of you dont know who that is. Bitcoin may yet make you rich, but you'll see how time erodes those that cant adapt.

So you think that zcash will replace bitcoin? Everything can happen but I doubt that something similar could happen. Bitcoin for now is way far zcash because the community of bitcoin is parger.
I think yes, he is thinking that zcash will replace bitcoin
and I am doubt too it will happens because zcash has a little marketcap
be compared with bitcoin and the zcash still has a little comunity too.
I dont know why people still do think that zcash could able to replace bitcoin,seriously? Even that coin didnt even surpass those huge marketcap coins like eth xmr which is somehow good to choose rather than zcash. It doesnt stand a chance on bitcoin because until now theres no candidate to breakeven on bitcoins progress.
Exactly it just another crypto currency in thos world just I think it got more publicity than other coins in starting so that doesn't mean it is gonna beat tbe best which is bitcoin. It is impossible and we also don't know if the coin is actually real or is it just showing fake mining results or even running a ponzi. I wouldn't recommend anyone to invest in it now the best alternatives to it is xmr or maybe dash.

Zcash is a scam coin because of its superhype that scams people to buy zcash with a very high price. Some said it has reach up to 200 btc per coin in Polo. But after sometime it has gradually decreased in value and those early buyers have lost a huge amount of bitcoins when the price has tremendously went down. I dont know if people will still trust this coin that has deceived many upon its release.
In the first place I think the investors are mad. Till now there are so many coins which create superhype and be like our price will surpass bitcoin ,etc this is the time we should think that this is absolutely a scam because it is really hard to predict the price. I saw the market cap I guess it is 200k + I just hope they realise and sell all the coins before they it's too late.
It is just the same as other altcoin they are starting in high price and gradually dumping the price until no value..
So be wise of choosing what is the good altcoin to choose.. for me top 20 altcoin still a good choice to buy and hold for a long time..
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