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1801  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 18, 2023, 04:56:39 AM
With the team returning from injuries I think, they’ll become that unbeaten team everyone’s scared to play, these 4 teams are pretty cool but I think Bayern might not get into the semis except they work on being clinical and being tactical in style of play, but I see Real Madrid going quite far in this year’s UCL and probably taking the trophy back to Spain.
If some people speculate that Bayern Munich will not qualify until the semi finals, I hope this team can qualify for the semi finals.
not because I am Munich fan but I just want to see very strong and interesting competition to watch when Real madrid, Man City, Inter and Bayern Munich will continue to compete strongly to qualify in each round and I am sure there will be Kane mainstay player in Munich team , Tuchel has confidence and tries playing style with safer strategy to stay through to next round.

maybe we are speculating too early about which team will qualify for higher rounds, but there no harm in trying to guess who really has right opinion.
1802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 18, 2023, 04:25:56 AM
To be honest, I'm not surprised that Rudi Garcia was let go by Napoli. And those whispers of player dissatisfaction? The squad wasn't exactly winning under his leadership. Anything like that is never good. They made the proper decision, in my opinion. Football management is a hard business, and occasionally adjustments are required. Currently, I'm not sure how I feel about Mazzarri's comeback. While his prior tenure may not have been revolutionary, winning the Italian Cup is nonetheless a noteworthy accomplishment. Perhaps now is his chance to return with new tactics and insights. This time around, he has a different squad, which might be the biggest factor. Before making assumptions, let's give the guy a chance

In fact, it is difficult to judge how right the management is because now Napoli have not the best results but not the worst either. They have just returned to their usual level, they cannot be higher than it every season like they were last season. We are not saying that it’s time to fire Milan’s coach, although the results there are almost the same, plus Milan has a much lower chance of qualifying for the 1/8 of the Champions League than Napoli.
I think Napoli and Milan are performing worse this year than last year. Milan started well but have suffered some really bad points drops in the last few weeks. In Napoli, things are not going as they wanted. They have lost points one after another and have to fight for the top places, let alone the leadership in the league.
comparing these two teams, I prefer to favor Milan even though they have experienced a decline in performance but will definitely recover soon because there are no changes whatsoever to the team.
meanwhile Napoli have big problems with their mainstay player Osimhen after having a conflict and currently Osimhen is injured and on the one hand Garcia has been fired from his position, is not this terrible?
there is no hope whatsoever for Napoli this season, in fact I would say that Milan is much better at the moment and to win the title in serie A or in other competitions, Napoli will just be an ordinary team like a few years ago.
1803  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Pertimbangan Sebelum Berinvestasi Bitcoin - Untuk Pemula on: November 17, 2023, 07:09:39 PM
Jadi sebelum berinvestasi pilihlah exchange yang memiliki reputasi yang baik.
sedikit meluruskan saja untuk memulai investasi pada BTC bukan harus memilih market/exchange yang bagus tapi pilihlah dompet terbaik dan teraman untuk menyimpan BTC yang akan anda simpan dalam jumlah panjang nanti. alasan saya mengatakan seperti ini kita tidak perlu membuang waktu memilih market mana yang bereputasi baik atau tidak karena kita menyimpan BTC bukan di market tapi di wallet pribadi yang lebih aman tanpa beresiko kehilangan jika nantinya suatu market tutup.
tapi saya menghargai pendapat agan mungkin juga penting memilih market untuk membeli BTC sebelum kita simpan tapi sudah cukup banyak saat ini market yang rekomend seperti Binance.

NB : investasi BTC bukanlah suatu hal yang mudah dan instan membutuhkan waktu lama untuk mendapatkan hasil yang lebih memuaskan lakukan DCA akan lebih baik.
1804  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: November 17, 2023, 11:09:03 AM
The odds for this match is in favour of Leipzig. No need to say how good Leipzig are comparing to Wolfsburg but the latter team is having difficulty to collect points. If we take a look on the last five games for example, they got only one point. Leipzig at the same time collected 10 points. The defence and attack lines are way better in the Leipzig side. I find the only supportive thing for Wolfsburg is the fact they are playing at home.
Leipzig does have a chance of winning in the upcoming match against Wolfsburg, but what you need to pay attention to is that Leipzig must continue to deploy the best players so that the opponent will find it difficult to maintain their defense and victory will be easy to achieve. Never underestimate small teams because there may be surprises. when Leipzig underestimated Wolfsburg.
problem now is that Wolfsburg will act as hosts, while Wolfsburg already knows Leipzig weaknesses and even though Leipzig in terms of player performance is superior in depth, if Wolfsburg already knows Leipzig weak points, it will be a little difficult to win unless the Leipzig coach has to close every gap in their weaknesses by this team and I would indeed expect Leipzig to win but looking at the current performance of both teams I have several betting options and the main thing is that it is better to bet on a total score under 3.
1805  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: November 17, 2023, 10:39:54 AM
One of the matches in week 14 is the match between Girona vs Atletico Bilbao. This will be a match that will not be easy for both clubs, because they are also competing at the top of the standings. Girona will undoubtedly hold the favorite status in this match. But they can't underestimate their opponents either, as Atletico Bilbao have the potential to spring a surprise in this match. The visitors will surely be highly motivated to beat one of the strongest clubs until week 13.
What do you think, betting on which club is more promising? I'm personally inclined to go with Girona.
In this match there will still be a lot going on and actually it would be better if we had to wait for the latest news because I am worried about injuries to players like the Real Madrid defender.
so we can only speculate temporarily and in depth these two teams are difficult to predict, but in terms of chances of victory, Girona will be superior, who will appear as host and you definitely know how Girona performs when they are at home, this team will be better strong and confident to get 3 additional points but I still admit that Bilbao has a strong enough defense and the opportunity for a draw is possible but it is better for us to wait for latest news whether there will be surprises from injured players or no players injury.
1806  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: November 17, 2023, 10:20:32 AM
The game between Paris Saint Germaine and Monaco will be a very interesting match to watch because of how impressive the two teams have been this season in the French Ligue 1.
Monaco who are currently in the third position trailing league leaders with just three points knows that a win in that game will take them to the same number of points with Paris Saint Germaine.
That being said, I expect the league leaders to win that game because if how strong they are and the fact that they'll be playing at home in front of their home fans.
AS Monaco's last three matches against PSG managed to win twice with quite convincing scores and that happened when PSG was still with several star players, but it was a home match for AS Monaco and because this is different where PSG will be the home team, of course, PSG will ensure 3 points in this match so that their position in the standings does not shift because if they lose or draw then the team that will benefit the most is Nice who will have the opportunity to return to first place in the standings because they are only one point different from PSG and will also face the Toulouse team which they are very likely to beat.
PSG is favored with odds @ 1.51 and AS Monaco gets odds @ 5.60, if PSG's attackers can appear consistent they should be able to score more than two goals and Mbappe, who successfully scored a hat trick in the previous match, will be expected to contribute again in this match.
logically very correct speculation PSG will be very strong in competing at home even though Monaco is stable condition but in terms depth player performance PSG is superior to Monaco but only problem is during this international break whether there will be problems with some the player who are favored because several players in other leagues suffered injuries while competing for their country and if there are no problems with the PSG players it seems like victory is in sight for PSG and if the match against Monaco fails to get those 3 points it looks like the competition to maintain the top the standings will still continue before PSG really consistently it will be difficult to be at the top the standings until end of the season.
1807  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 17, 2023, 09:53:12 AM
Still shocking to watch Tottenham Hotspur downfall against Chelsea and Wolves. We could recall that Wolves was the team that break the unbeaten run of Manchester City in the English Premier League this season so losing to the Wanderers is fine but to Chelsea it was detrimental. Spurs boss, Angelos Postecoglou knows where the weakness is coming from and he tends to fixed them this season, let's just hope he does fix the team within a small range of time. These players should come back, then we will watch if Spurs can bounce back or not.
The first defeat that Tottenham suffered this season was from Chelsea because of two red cards that their players received. Cristian Romero is famous for playing quite hard so it is not uncommon for bettors to bet on him to get a card, and with only 9 players playing, Chelsea is the team that has the advantage because after the second red card Chelsea managed to score 3 goals against Tottenham, and when they suffered the defeat against Wolves it was the most surprising thing and the factor of several core players not being able to play was also one of the causes of these two defeats.
Unfortunately, in the next four matches, Tottenham will face 3 quite tough matches so it is very possible that we will see them decline further, so competition will return between Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool and we see Tottenham as a team that will no longer be consistent unless they can quickly recover from these two consecutive defeats
I am not a Spurs fan but looking at the current conditions after the two defenders were suspended, it looks very bad but not too bad against Wolves because they were almost able to hold the score to a draw but failed with a defeat and in the next match it will be against Man City Meanwhile, City performance is currently in a very strong condition, but we have to see whether the Spurs defender who is serving a suspension can appear in the match and if he can appear in the match, it is likely that Spurs will improve again or be able to withstand any attacks from Man City but if Spurs best defender is still serving a period of suspension there is very little chance of holding the match to a draw.
1808  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: November 17, 2023, 08:57:41 AM
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He will see how much effort his family put in to help him cure his gambling addiction, and he will tell himself that he can definitely do it because he has the support of his family. Help from his family will be a good encouragement for him and can convince him that what he is doing now is for his recovery from gambling addiction. That will make him try every therapy he gets so he can see how far he has progressed. He believes that his family really supports him in healing himself from his gambling addiction so that he can still undergo his healing therapy. He will be strong enough to survive all the therapy sessions because in his mind, he has been replaced by his family, and he just wants to show his family that he is capable of getting out and healing himself from his gambling addiction.
yep, you managed to understand what I said and all this is just about how the family tries and how the gambler tries to recover from his addiction and if he has a strong desire he will continue to respect whatever his family suggests and I remember a closer example of a friend I was addicted to drugs and in prison when he was released from prison he realized his bad habit of using drugs and finally he had a commitment to recover and told his family to help cure his addiction and asked his family for help if he did the wrong thing and had to be reminded.

In the scenario that I am telling you, this could be an example for gambling addicts. If they already have the awareness to stop their addiction, it would be better to ask for help from the family, tell me honestly and I am quite sure that no matter how bad it is, the family will be happy to provide help.
1809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 17, 2023, 08:39:41 AM
Rudi Garcia has been sacked, they called back Mazzarri after 10 years.
Conte is rumored to have refused them, twice.
Finally, Napoli fired Rudi Garcia.  Grin
It makes sense, Rudi Garcia never improved Napoli performance. We even heard a rumor about bad relationship with the players. This will have no solution, firing him is the best decision.

I'm surprised Napoli hired Mazzarri. I think there is no very special thing with Mazzarri when he was the manager of Napoli in 2009 until 2013. The only thing that he can achieve with Napoli was winning  Italian Cup in the season 2011-2012. But Napoli may have no alternatives for the coach, so they decided to sign Mazzarri.

It is very unfortunate Conte rejected the offer.  :-



I feel very sorry for Rudi Garcia, he wasnt a bad person. However, he was unable to make Napoli work. Zero.
I am also sorry that Antonio Conte didnt accept, it was a great opportunity for him and for Napoli.
At this point it is better for him to keep Mazzarri close, who in any case is an excellent coach!
TBH, what happened is not entirely the fault of Garcia or the Napoli players, but what we need to see that the current owner of Napoli is too ambitious with a high desire to get the title he wants but at the expense of a coach who is always fired and if we remember how Spalletti at Napoli was even able to raised Napoli to a higher level and just because he failed to bring Napoli to the UCL Spalletti was also fired while the coach has a bright future if he is retained for a few more seasons and replaced by Garcia while I say that the Napoli owner careless efforts will only bring bad things to his own team and everything I say comes true that Garcia failed to strengthen Napoli to a higher level.

and this time it was a ridiculous attempt to call Mazzarri to be appointed as coach at Napoli and remember what I said, Mazzarri will also end up like other coaches who will be fired. Conte then rejected the offer from Napoli because he was aware of how tough the work system was when he was at Napoli who wanted to get prestigious UCL title instantly and that would never happen.
1810  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: For sports bettors, are you attracted with bet builder feature? on: November 17, 2023, 08:02:59 AM
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I guess you should try it because it's a really good feature added by most sportsbooks now. I don't know when they added it, but I find it new, and personally, I'm enjoying it with my side bets. Not necessarily a big amount of money, but just a way to add more thrill. I'm just curious; it just sunk into my mind now. Is it also possible to parlay a bet builder bet? Has anyone tried it yet?
maybe after the international break I will try it in soccer betting and on my favorite site this feature actually already exists but I am just hesitant to try it because I myself prefer multi bets to take big risks with high odds but if later after I try the feature It works well and gives the same sensation as parlay betting maybe I will continue to use this feature.

and regarding making parlay bets on this feature, it seems that @Yogee has answered it because it is impossible to use parlay bets with this feature, it is definitely more profitable for gamblers
1811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is the largest sports bet you have ever placed, and what was the result on: November 17, 2023, 07:37:27 AM
in history I have experienced wins that I consider big from sports betting with multi odds bets, not that big, only @13 and I did it on a fiat site, but that only once in a lifetime that I have experienced success in getting a win from multi football bets.
and I also got consistent wins from esports betting on dota 2 TI 11 last year without using multi bets but single bets with odds of at least @1.5 - @2 and the total winnings I got were around $500.

but unfortunately to repeat a win like that again seems very difficult or maybe just luck comes once in a lifetime. Cheesy
1812  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do you want to play on casinos without KYC requirements? on: November 17, 2023, 07:16:01 AM
what I understand at the moment is that it all depends on each individual goals, when someone who really cares about their anonymity they will always avoid KYC and refuse to do KYC, but for gamblers who dont really care about anonymity they can do KYC even if its because they have to. like some people who may already really believe in the casino site which has more high trust and find it difficult to accept other casinos, of course they will do KYC just to be able to gamble on the site and there are also people who register at a casino that requires KYC because of work demands. campaign.

still, it all depends on each individual, but I personally choose to do KYC to avoid something happening like what the OP wrote.
Isn't it weird that they care too much about anonymity though? I get it you're on the Internet but the government and your ISP already knows who you are so how are we going to be that paranoid about our anonymity when there's already people that knows us and there's no person here that's totally off the grid so I don't see why worry about anonymity. I think that the only reason why people want no KYC casinos is because they don't trust anyone and a lot of them are probably money launderers or at least mules of money launderers so they want less flak on them as much as possible. You can't really blame the people who advocate for no KYC casinos as there are scum casinos that will sell your data to a third party which are often malicious in nature.
its not unusual when someone is more concerned with anonymity because we dont know what they are thinking and what they are planning and the most important task for me is just to respect any differences of opinion from other people so if someone prefers to reject casinos that use KYC I will not giving any criticism because it is his choice and what I know is that I will do what is best for myself and other people do what is best for that person.

regarding casinos that sell customer data to third parties to commit crimes until now maybe sometimes I worry about this but I will always entrust my worries to myself as long as I do KYC at  reputable casino and I dont do anything bad that does not will occur.
1813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The Latest Game in my Country: Bottle Flip on: November 17, 2023, 06:53:15 AM
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Flipping the bottle is more of an interesting game in my own place and most occasions their will be a food set aside or a gift for who ever their bottle is flipped and it is standing will get a price or pick a chicken. And hearing now that they use it for gambling am surprised. But it is going to be interesting and I could not stop laughing after I saw the part you said people bet on how many times a frog croaks, anything can be be gamble on and I noticed that as far as they find joy in what they are doing then I don't think  that should be a problem. Gambling is sweet but should not go beyond, then it becomes bad. I would have love to flipp if I will win.
or maybe what OP has experienced or knows about is the first time seeing betting on this bottle flipping game whereas what I know is that this is just a game that has been around for a long time, even in various countries they already know about this game, its just that its probably very rarely used for betting and OP might surprised by such a novelty

yes, that how a real gambler (not an addict) will gamble on something that they think is interesting to bet on and gives them a pleasant sensation, having fun with their friends and I am sure you've experienced betting on a unique game like this, even just once.
1814  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚽️ SPORTBETTING ADVICE ⚽️ on: November 17, 2023, 06:21:06 AM
It would really be removing the real essence of entertainment and enjoyment if you do make bets basing up on others suggestion.
when we talk about essence and sensation, betting on suggestions from other people is not the right choice because when you win, you will not actually be satisfied with the results from other people analysis, not from something you have produced yourself and when you lose, it will only be someone else experience. others are not your own experience.

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The best thing you could do when dealing with sports betting is that you should really be enjoying the game and bet accordingly into those teams or players
on which you do seem that have a higher chance on winning.
as I said before, if you bet on sports betting, if you want to get a bigger chance of winning with a small risk, it would be better to choose 1 match and enjoy the match by watching the match in progress and that's where the fun sensation we get is different when we just chasing a big win with high odds but a big risk but a very small chance of winning which only makes your heart beat fast, you can't enjoy the sensation but there no harm in trying assuming you are just trying your luck with a smaller value.
1815  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambler avoiding friends after a big win. on: November 17, 2023, 05:59:52 AM
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Still, I don’t regard him as a bad friend. But if I were him, I would still remember and find time to spend it with friends, no matter how rich I was. I am sure of this, but we also know that in life sometimes everything happens differently than we are 100% sure of.

He stopped lending probably because this is a fundamental point for him. He just never lends money to anyone. There is a saying: “If you want to quarrel with friends or relatives, then lend them money.” Even I have met people in my life who constantly borrow, this is their lifestyle, I don’t like them, it’s better to avoid them.
sometimes mature thinking is really needed when it comes to dealing with all this and after all he is still your friend who used to gamble with you and dont instill hatred in yourself for him because he is still your friend even though at this time maybe he prefers to avoid you and other friends maybe he have thoughts that you dont know so we have to think positively about your separation from your friend, its not because of money but something better.

and related to what you said in the bottom line, that what I mean because money is everything, you can even lose your family just because of money.

We are people who have been on different occasions living Experiences that have to do with friends, with money and many other things, so in this order of ideas we Are people who must Accept that there are others who are not like us,
more precisely, we all have different thoughts and plans so that whatever happens, he remains a friend who we cannot judge just because of the money from gambling winnings.
1816  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: November 17, 2023, 05:23:43 AM
you have to be careful if you want to see other people experiences to use as a benchmark for not making the same mistakes because sometimes your level of gambling is not the same as his or he could be a very reckless gambling addict and I am worried if you use other people experiences as valuable lessons. for you, I am afraid you will actually have curiosity and try it.

for me the best experience is only what you do yourself and other people experiences are just additions.
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there a slight misunderstanding here and try re-reading reply I marked.
I have said that the best experience to be used as a valuable lesson is only the experience of what you have done yourself and other people bad experiences are just additions to give you a preference for not doing the same thing, it does not mean you have to do the same thing and I also said that if I am worried that when you think the best thing is other people bad experiences that you use as a benchmark, it very dangerous, when maybe mentally you dont have strong thoughts, maybe you are actually curious and want to prove other people bad experiences, like I've done.
so I say this because I myself have done something bad like what I said and for more details you can read the reply from @bangjoe which has been explained in more detail.
1817  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you bet on when your league is in break? on: November 17, 2023, 05:06:35 AM
as a football bettor and really like football even though the international break is still an alternative to betting on other leagues such as bundesliga 2 or La Liga 2 and I am sure as a football bettor I can definitely move to several other football leagues and I also bet there but when simultaneously there are no matches scheduled I usually bet on casino games like roulette and crazy time just to entertain myself in my free time.

and what I see from several other users replies as bettors they can always bet on other sports betting or on esports games that they like.
1818  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Apakah anda membeli koin meme untuk bull run selanjutnya on: November 16, 2023, 07:01:17 PM
untuk percaya ke meme coin lagi sepertinya saya sendiri tidak akan melakukan pembelian cukup masih memegang shiba dari pembelian sebelumnya dan masih saya hold sampai saat ini dan alasan saya sedikit skeptis sama meme coin karena yang saya tahu dari selama saya berada di crypto ini setiap bullrun selalu ada trend yang baru dan trend itu biasanya sudah ada tapi jarang dibahas atau jarang dibicarakan seperti bullrun tahun lalu sedang hype NFT dan meme coin sedangkan keduanya sudah ada sejak dulu hanya saja kita tidak menyadari bahwa meme coin seperti Doge bisa ATH di bullrun tahun lalu.

dan inilah alasan saya untuk tidak mengambil meme coin lagi karena sudah tidak bisa berharap lagi pada hype meme coin karena ada kemungkinan jika di bullrun nanti akan ada trend baru yang lebih berpotensi.

tapi, tidak ada salahnya siapapun jika ingin berspekulasi mencoba buat invest dikit buat beli meme coin siapa tau bisa pump lagi (pastinya bisa tergantung harga BTC) tapi untuk ribuan persen kayaknya agak sulit.
kali ini saya lebih yakin hold BTC sama BNB.
1819  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: November 16, 2023, 03:24:20 PM
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Yes, we must consider bad experiences as learning material so that we can avoid other bad experiences. Even other people's bad experiences can also be a lesson for us so that we don't experience them and can avoid having the same bad experiences. By trying to avoid repeating the same mistakes, we can become responsible gamblers so that we will not experience serious problems like other people.
you have to be careful if you want to see other people experiences to use as a benchmark for not making the same mistakes because sometimes your level of gambling is not the same as his or he could be a very reckless gambling addict and I am worried if you use other people experiences as valuable lessons. for you, I am afraid you will actually have curiosity and try it.

for me the best experience is only what you do yourself and other people experiences are just additions.
1820  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚽️ SPORTBETTING ADVICE ⚽️ on: November 16, 2023, 01:27:36 PM
I don`t say that it is easy. The main reason i prefer sport betting is that we can use our brains to get profit. Of course we always need some luck both in sport betting and card games, but in other games we can`t do anything to predict the result.
sports betting is always the top choice for a bettor who wants to try his luck with lower risks. I really understand that all types of betting have risks, but this is different from sports betting, which has less risk by predicting the team score to get a bigger chance of winning, although there are always surprises such as luck, but the favorite team will not always keep losing.
while casino games such as slots etc. depend heavily on luck and cannot predict the chances of winning.
Sport betting is still gambling. We can increase our chances using the analyze but we can`t exclude the luck totally. So if we want to get stable profit we have use some rules that we see in this thread.
PS. I don`t sure that everybody can do it but if someone will try - it would be the good result and it means that this threads is helpful.
I admit that luck still plays an important role in all types of betting, even in sports betting, because gambling for me is luck.

so I really understand what you are saying and from everything that OP wrote, most of it is very true and if we talk about being safer with a bigger chance of winning, it would be better to use a single bet, for me it works but there is still 10% about how much lucky us.

sure, everyone can do it, but it depends on the mindset of each bettor, whether they want to get consistent results but with a small value or want to take big risks with a large value.
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