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1821  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum 30% hashrate drop for RX400/RX500 incoming soon? on: July 09, 2017, 08:20:55 PM
found this: Ethereum mining: hashrate drop for Radeon RX400/RX500 GPUs incoming Shocked Huh
Only RX cards are affected, not the older ones like 290x. Also Nvidia Pascal seems to be on the safe side...

why the f is that the case that only RX series cards are affected, this is crap i tell u

Yeah. The ice age is for the entire ethereum mining community. I too dont understand all this crap against AMD's RX series. More likely, it will depend on the memory of cards, 4GB cards will soon be too low to handle DAG.

So the hashrate will not drop on Nvidia cards?

I'm going to build my second rig and I'm not sure if I should move from AMD RX cards to Nvidia, maybe I will open a thread too.

If the hashrate won't drop in Nvidia cards then I would purchase nvidia cards before the AMD ones.

The Nvidia 10 series cards are not affected by the epoch increase. So far I have been able to offset most of the ETH hash drop on my mixed five card RX 4XX/5XX 4GB and 8GB rig from every new epoch by lowering the DCR dual mining intensity from -dcri 25 to -dcri 21 and the dual mining speed has taken a big hit.

Epoch 132:

Code:
19:13:19:631	9fc	target: 0x0000000112e0be82 (diff: 4000MH), epoch 132(2.03GB)
19:13:19:631 9fc ETH - Total Speed: 144.269 Mh/s, Total Shares: 3808, Rejected: 0, Time: 29:50
19:13:19:631 9fc ETH: GPU0 28.789 Mh/s, GPU1 29.206 Mh/s, GPU2 29.143 Mh/s, GPU3 29.003 Mh/s, GPU4 28.127 Mh/s
19:13:19:631 9fc DCR - Total Speed: 3606.716 Mh/s, Total Shares: 12094, Rejected: 121
19:13:19:631 9fc DCR: GPU0 719.733 Mh/s, GPU1 730.159 Mh/s, GPU2 728.575 Mh/s, GPU3 725.070 Mh/s, GPU4 703.179 Mh/s

Epoch 133:

Code:
16:17:09:782	3e8	target: 0x0000000112e0be82 (diff: 4000MH), epoch 133(2.04GB)
16:17:09:782 3e8 ETH - Total Speed: 144.031 Mh/s, Total Shares: 2918, Rejected: 0, Time: 23:21
16:17:09:782 3e8 ETH: GPU0 28.703 Mh/s, GPU1 29.219 Mh/s, GPU2 29.048 Mh/s, GPU3 29.045 Mh/s, GPU4 28.016 Mh/s
16:17:09:782 3e8 DCR - Total Speed: 3024.653 Mh/s, Total Shares: 9593, Rejected: 90
16:17:09:782 3e8 DCR: GPU0 602.770 Mh/s, GPU1 613.594 Mh/s, GPU2 610.013 Mh/s, GPU3 609.939 Mh/s, GPU4 588.337 Mh/s
1822  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Checking on GTX 1050 TI versions on: July 09, 2017, 03:09:35 PM
One consideration for the higher priced cards is they will typically have better cooling and better fan construction that lasts longer under constant mining. It really only makes sense if it's a long term investment where the price difference may pay off over time. Resale value of the cards will be higher as well.
1823  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Checking on GTX 1050 TI versions on: July 09, 2017, 01:22:13 PM
I can assure you the mining performance difference, if any, is not worth the extra cost. Also $180+ for a 1050Ti is expensive. Most are ~$150.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%208000%20601273503&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&order=PRICE
1824  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: PCIe risers ver 006 not working on: July 09, 2017, 11:07:33 AM
No driver is needed. To test the riser, all you need to do is swap the riser with one that is working. When putting the card in the PCI-E slot of the riser, make sure it goes all the way in and is latched in place. If the card works, then you know the other riser is the problem. Also check the USB cable, some cables have the contacts too deep and they don't make a good connection.
1825  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 2 * 1060 6Gig or 1 * 1070 or 1* rx580 on: July 08, 2017, 04:28:05 PM
Two 1060's will have a better hash rate than one 1070 or one RX 580, except when dual mining. TDP on 1060's is good as well <100 W. If you can get two 1060's for the price of one 1070 or one RX 580, then get that.

Im think about DAG for 6Gig. somone says 6Gig is worst is he right?

Thanks

The Dag size is not even an issue for the foreseeable future. The Dag won't even reach 3 GB until early next year and 4GB until 2019.

If Dag size not issue I can Buy 2*480 with my money
but

It says Dag for RX is too bad what you think ?

The issue that chart is reflecting is the future epoch benchmark hash rate drop that the Claymore ETH miner shows affecting the AMD Polaris line (RX 4XX and 5XX) cards. It affects 4GB and 8GB Polaris cards about the same. As of now, there are conflicting reports as to if it's an issue with the Claymore miner or an issue with the hardware architecture of AMD cards. Nvidia GTX 10 series cards are not shown to be affected by the same issue, which is what is reflected in the chart.

So Im confused about that I can buy 2*1060 or Can buy 2*480 but Im worry about dag size

Then buy the 1060's. As i said the Nvidia cards are not affected by the future epoch hash drop and the ETH Dag file won't even reach 4GB until 2019. Otherwise ETH will almost surely go in to a hybrid POS/POW model before the end of the year, so it's really only an issue with other coins based on the ETH algorithm.
Which DAG we are in ? 140 ? And do you think when we get 170-180 DAG size ?Befor 2019 or after that ?


The current epoch level is 133 and the Dag file size is 2.04GB. A new epoch occurs every 30,000 blocks, which at the current block times is about every 5.5 days. If the block times remain the same, by the end of the year ETH should be somewhere in to the 160's epoch.
1826  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 2 * 1060 6Gig or 1 * 1070 or 1* rx580 on: July 08, 2017, 03:52:50 PM
Two 1060's will have a better hash rate than one 1070 or one RX 580, except when dual mining. TDP on 1060's is good as well <100 W. If you can get two 1060's for the price of one 1070 or one RX 580, then get that.

Im think about DAG for 6Gig. somone says 6Gig is worst is he right?

Thanks

The Dag size is not even an issue for the foreseeable future. The Dag won't even reach 3 GB until early next year and 4GB until 2019.

If Dag size not issue I can Buy 2*480 with my money
but

It says Dag for RX is too bad what you think ?

The issue that chart is reflecting is the future epoch benchmark hash rate drop that the Claymore ETH miner shows affecting the AMD Polaris line (RX 4XX and 5XX) cards. It affects 4GB and 8GB Polaris cards about the same. As of now, there are conflicting reports as to if it's an issue with the Claymore miner or an issue with the hardware architecture of AMD cards. Nvidia GTX 10 series cards are not shown to be affected by the same issue, which is what is reflected in the chart.

So Im confused about that I can buy 2*1060 or Can buy 2*480 but Im worry about dag size

Then buy the 1060's. As i said the Nvidia cards are not affected by the future epoch hash drop and the ETH Dag file won't even reach 4GB until 2019. Otherwise ETH will almost surely go in to a hybrid POS/POW model before the end of the year, so it's really only an issue with other coins based on the ETH algorithm.
1827  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 2 * 1060 6Gig or 1 * 1070 or 1* rx580 on: July 08, 2017, 03:31:56 PM
Two 1060's will have a better hash rate than one 1070 or one RX 580, except when dual mining. TDP on 1060's is good as well <100 W. If you can get two 1060's for the price of one 1070 or one RX 580, then get that.

Im think about DAG for 6Gig. somone says 6Gig is worst is he right?

Thanks

The Dag size is not even an issue for the foreseeable future. The Dag won't even reach 3 GB until early next year and 4GB until 2019.

If Dag size not issue I can Buy 2*480 with my money
but


It says Dag for RX is too bad what you think ?

The issue that chart is reflecting is the future epoch benchmark hash rate drop that the Claymore ETH miner shows affecting the AMD Polaris line (RX 4XX and 5XX) cards. It affects 4GB and 8GB Polaris cards about the same. As of now, there are conflicting reports as to if it's an issue with the Claymore miner or an issue with the hardware architecture of AMD cards. Nvidia GTX 10 series cards are not shown to be affected by the same issue, which is what is reflected in the chart.
1828  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v9.6 (Windows/Linux) on: July 08, 2017, 02:58:17 PM
You need to connect a monitor or dummy plug to one of the cards for the AMD driver to be able to set and monitor temperature and fan speed.

Aha...

So,  the monitor cable must be connect to the GPU in order to mine?


Not mandatory, but highly recommended. Otherwise you won't be able to set the fan speed or know if the cards are overheating. Just use a dummy plug, problem solved.

https://www.amazon.com/Display-Emulator-Headless-Ghost-Headless-1920x1080-3840x2160/dp/B06XSZR7CG
1829  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v9.6 (Windows/Linux) on: July 08, 2017, 02:47:19 PM
You need to connect a monitor or dummy plug to one of the cards for the AMD driver to be able to set and monitor temperature and fan speed.
1830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 2 * 1060 6Gig or 1 * 1070 or 1* rx580 on: July 08, 2017, 02:39:59 PM
Two 1060's will have a better hash rate than one 1070 or one RX 580, except when dual mining. TDP on 1060's is good as well <100 W. If you can get two 1060's for the price of one 1070 or one RX 580, then get that.

Im think about DAG for 6Gig. somone says 6Gig is worst is he right?

Thanks

The Dag size is not even an issue for the foreseeable future. The Dag won't even reach 3 GB until early next year and 4GB until 2019.
1831  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 2 * 1060 6Gig or 1 * 1070 or 1* rx580 on: July 08, 2017, 01:18:35 PM
Two 1060's will have a better hash rate than one 1070 or one RX 580, except when dual mining. TDP on 1060's is good as well <100 W. If you can get two 1060's for the price of one 1070 or one RX 580, then get that.
1832  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Is any coin still being mined with GPU other that ETH? on: July 08, 2017, 01:12:06 PM
Profitably, you can mine Zcash, new coins that aren't taken over by ASICS and probably some of the older coins not based on Scrypt, X11 as well as muti-algo coins.

I would also suggest downloading the NiceHash miner and running the benchmark. That will give your cards hash rate for different algorithms and then use a profitability calculator to find out which are the best coins to mine.

http://whattomine.com

1833  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Help! Issue with risers not fitting my larger PCI slots/Dual PSU question on: July 07, 2017, 10:40:28 PM
Idiots always thinks it's name calling while in reality it is stating a fact. You are a fool who can not process information properly.
Thus following other fools on YouTube.

Says the idiot that proves nothing and simply repeats his ignorant and easily demonstrably false claims. LOL
1834  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Help! Issue with risers not fitting my larger PCI slots/Dual PSU question on: July 07, 2017, 10:28:07 PM
OK I'm done arguing with idiots lol

The fact that you have to resort to name calling and slander to unsuccessfully TRY and prove your point shows you have ZERO credibility and only an idiot like yourself would listen to you.
1835  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Help! Issue with risers not fitting my larger PCI slots/Dual PSU question on: July 07, 2017, 09:17:55 PM
You can easily verify yourself, as I did with a multimeter
that is exactly what i did - of course there is no 3.3V connected.
actually there is no logic connecting it as riser makes it's own 3.3V from 5V input...

Your confirmation that they share a ground and yet are electrically isolated shows you are clueless and I would DEFINITELY NOT listen to your advice.

sharing ground does not mean that devices can not be electrically isolated.
your TV and microwave owen share ground yet they are electrically isolated.

you are uneducated idiot no wonder you gather your "knowledge" from other idiots on youtube lol


I proved and anyone that knows how to use a multimeter can prove as well the riser and motherboard ARE NOT electrically isolated and therfore as recommended by a PSU manufacturer, and someone with over 15,000 people following him on YouTube for his experience with mining rigs, you should never mix power supplies to devices connected to the motherboard. The post below from someone with an electronics backgorund also explains why the same PSU that powers the motherboard MUST also power the risers.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1843586.msg18399752#msg18399752

Which is a lot more reason to follow that advice than from someone too stupid to use a multimeter and understand again, that risers ARE NOT electrically isolated from the motherboard.
1836  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Help! Issue with risers not fitting my larger PCI slots/Dual PSU question on: July 07, 2017, 07:41:22 PM
I comprehend that you don't understand USB risers are not electrically isolated from the motherboard and share a 3.3V AND ground connection to the motherboard

That is not the case. USB risers do not provide any voltage from motherboard except contol signals. Thus they are isolated.
And you are lying, they are not sharing 3.3V. They do share ground however as all devices should.

You can easily verify yourself, as I did with a multimeter, the outer pins of the USB cable connected to the motherboard have 3.3V coming from the motherboard connecting to the riser. Your confirmation that they share a ground and yet are electrically isolated shows you are clueless and I would DEFINITELY NOT listen to your advice.
1837  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: PSU coupler, are they worth it? on: July 07, 2017, 06:27:16 PM
I would stick with good brands like EVGA or Corsair, though BBT has reported having multiple bad Corsair AX series brand new PSU's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXoPFPqU3Y8&feature=youtu.be&t=3798

Add2PSU is just a reed relay to daisy chain the PSU's so they start and shutoff at the same time and share the same ground. You can also make your own from an automotive relay.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDArticles&op=Story&ndar_id=27

Using an ATX 24-pin splitter cable is another easy way to connect two PSU's.

https://www.amazon.com/Female-Power-Supply-Motherboard-Adapter/dp/B013HTWI9G

1838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: PSU Problem on: July 07, 2017, 06:19:03 PM
Nothing was connected to the mobo. Just tried the 24pin breakout board with a multimeter attached and got a brief 12v which sooned dropped to 0.

Just found a really old (10plus years) psu and connected the 24pin and the mobo fired up. Didnt get anything out the screen but it hasnt got an 8pin connector. Hopefully i havent done any damage but still it stayed on for a few seconds until i switched it off.

So looks like the XFX XTS 520w fanless psu is dead. I did have a fan ontop of it and it was only running 170w while it was mining.

The PSU is the most important component in a rig. If it goes down so does the whole rig. You need a good gold or platinum rated PSU that can handle the load and has all the connectors you need. I would stick with EVGA or Corsair, though BBT has reported having multiple bad Corsair AX series brand new PSU's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXoPFPqU3Y8&feature=youtu.be&t=3798
1839  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: PSU Problem on: July 07, 2017, 05:54:20 PM
Its been running for days. Just unplugged everything to move it around so i can mount the gpus on risers and now it doesnt fire up.

Got a 24pin breakout board i just tried on its own and it wont switch on with that either. Does that mean the PSU is dead now?

If nothing else has changed, it could be or the motherboard. Try another PSU if you have one. Is it a Corsair AX series PSU?
1840  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: PSU Problem on: July 07, 2017, 05:39:15 PM
You also need memory installed. Make sure the CPU is on the compatible list for the motherboard on the manufacturer's support page.
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