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1821  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: November 22, 2022, 02:28:19 PM

Tomorrow is a much tougher game, they are up against the New Orleans Pelicans. I'll be skipping this one, hard to predict because Klay is still on/off.

They are +6 against the Pelicans, well, if we trust the Warriors here, this is the best time to bet on them by riding the moneyline. Thompson's hot shooting might continue, he already gained his confidence and since Poole was already lost in the picture, they need more KT time to boost the team's chance of winning.
This could be a trap guys.
I don't see Thompson, Curry, Green, and Wiggins in the player props. There's a chance Coach Kerr will be benching them or they will be announced in injury reports before the game starts.
Now it's +11.5 so I think the stars won't be playing.
Sorry for those who took the early bet. We really have to be careful with back-to-back road games as sometimes management will not risk their stars to be injured due to fatigue.


Yes, it was. I was shocked too see the scores earlier because the gap was so wide and cannot imagine that they let that happened and to be buried with 45 points away. I realized that their big three wasn't playing as well as Wiggins, Kuminga and Poole were the only ones who really played.

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/steph-curry-klay-thompson-draymond-green-ruled-out-warriors-pelicans
This tip-off was a bit late because many bettors already placed their bet much earlier without any signs that the big three will sit the game out.
1822  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you agree that an employer should hire employees who are smarter than him? on: November 21, 2022, 09:34:32 PM
I was listening to a YouTube video by a famous business man and he was saying that he prefers to hire employees who are smarter than him. Do you agree with this style of working? What are the possible intentions behind doing this? Isn't their fear that these smart employees can steal ideas from office or get client details and then start their own companies? What is your view regarding this?
Having smart employees is definitely an advantage since they can serve as assets in the company. If I am an employer, I would not resort into thinking that I will be taken advantage in the end, instead we can work hand in hand for the success of the company. If ever they will decide to stand on their own and build their own companies, I guess it should be my pride since they were able to learn from me, and for me atleast I’m thankful that I will be part of their success sooner.
1823  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Still think bitcoin is coming to an end? Then you must read this <3 on: November 21, 2022, 06:13:32 PM
I certainly don’t think bitcoin is coming to any ends. Sure there is a shit ton of turmoil going on right now in both bitcoin and the cryptocurrency landscape, but we are still in the “early innings” when it comes to cryptocurrency adoption. We’ve got a long ways to go before ANYTHING is decided.  One thing I’m sure of, while one of few, is that bitcoin is anything but dead.
Bitcoin has been considered a lot of times being dead but definitely not coming to the real end. I guess the people have only been thinking about bitcoin coming to it’s near end because the market is very doom. For me, the scenarios we are seeing today are just part of the yearly cycle, it’s just that the bear season stays longer than the bullish one. So let’s not put bitcoin being in the dead end. Bitcoin dominates the whole crypto coins in the market, so there is no way that it’s going to be obsolete.
1824  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you consider appearance in business and employment? on: November 20, 2022, 09:52:54 PM
Yes, I consider appearance to be important. Psychologically, when you dress well other people automatically perceive you as more successful, trustworthy, more sociable, more competent, and happy. In fact, just by dressing well, you can get your foot in the door of any organization because you would have made a good first impression. In addition, when you dress well, you are more likely to get hired, close a deal.
Most likely, that’s the case. People get well dressed for positive impression. However, it’s not only appearance that will create a big difference, but also on how you deal and interact with the people around you. You get addressed not only by your appearance, but definitely on how you build your character too on the people that you get to deal with.
1825  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: November 18, 2022, 05:51:29 PM

Bam Adebayo is questionable to play.
Washington Wizards vs Miami Heat - Heat -1.5 @2.07 - Wizards are strong but let's see what they can do against a defensive team like Miami.

I'll be tailing this pick, I like the heat on the road and the spread is very low so it will likely be covered if they'll win. Even if Bam will not play, I guess Heat can handle the Wizards, besides, their home wins record is not that impressive.

I think I'll oppose and bet against the Heat for now, they're not that consistent yet and will just ride with the Wizards that have established their team this season. I'll just bet for that game tomorrow live.

Anyway, here are my early picks.
Boston -2.5 @ 1.91 vs NOP
Knicks vs Warriors -7 @ 1.94
1826  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Terence Crawford vs David Avanesyan December 10 on: November 18, 2022, 02:17:39 PM
^^ That's part of it I guess, no one wants to accept the blame for a fight to not happening as big as this one. But at least we have heard the side of Crawford, maybe it's just half truth or wait, I'm still interested to hear though as who is that hedge fund manager willing to offer them guaranteed money of $50 million, maybe it's just a bluff on his end, hehehehe.

But yeah, December 10, we shall see if Avanesyan is really good as advertised by Crawford as an opponent. Or will it be just an easy fight for him and then his critics will go after him for taking an easy route.

You got some point but I don't think that Crawford was indeed bluffing when he told Al that there's someone out there who is willing to fund the fight, he won't be doing that just for the sake of pressuring Al and the latter is quite smart too and won't believe a single word without a proof. Crawford might have said all those words to save himself from the blaming game.

It's an open secret in the boxing industry that Al Haymon is very powerful and mysterious entity in boxing. And in his revelation, someone whisper to him, and this guy is under PBC that he needs to be careful on dealing with Al since he has no manager or someone that knows the ins and outs of boxing. And that he might be taking advantage of Al. And basically that's what happen, with no guarantee money. And that's why Crawford pitch that he knows rich personality willing to give both him and Spence $50 million, just a matter of how much they are going to split it up. But Al says no, and obviously Crawford didn't agree as well and that is why he is going to fight Avanesyan this December and then Spence moving forward with in house money fight with One Time Thurman.


What I didn't understand is Al Haymon should have told Crawford much earlier like weeks or months earlier that they have no intentions on materializing the fight. What they did was too unreasonable as they let Crawford go back and forth and wasted a couple of months for nothing. And I'm also curious on one other thing, Al said that he talked someone from Crawford's camp but Crawford was surprised because he didn't know about it that there's someone who came to Al and introduced himself in behalf of Crawford to have a discussion.

Good thing that Crawford already prepared a fight in-case the unification fight won't be happening, no one expected it for sure and people are asking why Avanesyan. For me, it's okay to fight whoever he wanted because he haven't got a fight for more than a year already, but the next fight should be at least more interesting.
1827  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 18, 2022, 01:35:28 PM
The decision will always on their favor. We can't force them to push the fight unless they are satisfied with the amount that they can collect once the fight proceeds. Greediness inside those people is no longer new. They will suck all the possible amount as long as the fighter is under their umbrella.

Just like what you mentioned about Pacquiao and how things went between him and Arum.

Money talks, as always, with sports that have a huge amount of money that flows each time well-known fighters are at stake.

Not siding with Arum but somehow, we can't hide the fact that his big influence also plays a role in why most of his top fighters are able to earn big money throughout their career. What if Pacquiao didn't land on a big promoter, I doubt he will have some big fights while at the peak of his career. Bob Arum, being a professional businessman in this industry knows how to make big revenue in a certain match. Of course, without a big money flowing on a certain match, how can they even pay their boxers with that guaranteed money (that was different from purse split)?

Boxing is really business at some point, but somehow a boxer can build a legacy while also doing business at the same time.

Bob Arum's just doing what he have to do in-order to make business and pave a way for his boxers to bloom and then maintain their status when they are at the top, in fact, there's a lot of young boxers who would want to be under Bob Arum's umbrella because they knew the exposure that Arum can give to them once they land under him. Just like what he did to Pacquiao, he was one of the reasons why he achieved that status. He knew that Pacquiao will be great, he just pave a way for him because he knows exactly what to do.

Yep, he put Manny's name on the map with his careful match making and of course him being in the sports for so long, he can pull that off and then make Manny look great, and both of them making money at the same time. We all call it, milking the cow, millions earn by both of them throughout their partnership.

And then they move on, Manny didn't sign any contract, put up his own company and had a few good fights.

While Arum find another cash cow in Inoue and others. So that is the vicious cycle of boxing being a business with this promoters.

That shows how good on the business Bob Arum is, he won't be in the game for too long if he cannot make a boxer great by his matchmaking skills. He also established some connections because of that, that is why he is powerful enough to call a fight and make it happen by pulling some few strings.

Manny Pacquiao is undoubtedly good but I strongly think that he won't be in the position like where he is now if he landed in a different promotional company because only the likes of Bob Arum and Don King can make that happen back in the day. Now, we got a lot of promotional companies that are so competitive.
1828  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Jermell Charlo vs Tim Tszyu - Jan 28, 2023 on: November 17, 2022, 04:23:28 PM
What a way to start the year by having two tough fighters I consider both fighters undefeated Charlo's loss was a fluke he is still one of the most dominating fighters in his division, but Tszyu is capable to wrest the title I have seen Tszyu fight on Youtube one of this is a knockout win against Jeff Horn his fighting style is very much similar to his father, my heart goes to Tszyu but I feel that Charlo has everything to keep the title, he is a more experienced fighter and have fought big names already.

Obviously, this bout is not any other champion vs the underdog fight because we all know that Tszyu can actually turn the table once he feels that he can take Charlo's punches. it just seems like they might gonna give us a more exciting fight than Crawford's next fight. Anyway, I think most of the spectators have already assumed that this fight will be easy for Charlo cause he was already able to overcome most fights like this but he needs to consider not slacking off because Tim can actually knock him out.

Ah yeah, I think compare to Crawford next fight, I think this is more exciting. Nothing against Crawford picking up Avanesyan, but he is a unknown fighter for us.

As compare to Tim Tszyu, who's father is a legend in boxing and has to work his way up to challenge Charlo at 154 lbs.

So we will have to see, Tim is known for his durability, although I'm not counting him as a knock out artist, but he can still deliver a win thru the old and traditional way of hard grind in the full 12 rounds.

12 rounds of the fight would be great, hopefully, we will see a toe to toe fight as these fighters are known to be aggressive. At the opening of the year, we will see a firework, and although most of us think that Jermell Charlo will win but please let us not underestimate Tim Tszyu because he has a heart of a champion.

Just let them be mate, we cannot stop them if they are already inclined to see Jermell Charlo winning. The important thing is that we know that this won't be an easy fight for Charlo and that's what makes it interesting because Tim here, the challenger, is tough enough to test the reigning undisputed champion. KO is not that likely for the both sides, UD or SD will be the nearest possible scenario. So this will be a close tough fight to see.
1829  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: November 17, 2022, 02:33:26 PM
I lost my bets tonight. I was disappointed by the Warriors against the Suns. Even with Stephen Curry putting up 50 points it wasn’t enough to beat the Suns. The Warriors didn’t have it tonight. I also got stung by the Houston Rockets beating the Dallas Mavericks. I wasn’t aware that Luka Doncic wouldn’t be playing at the time I made that one. Only game I got right tonight was the Minnesota Timberwolves over the Orlando Magic.

Exactly the reason why I skipped their games recently because they are so messy right now and not in synched, Chef Curry put up a humongous 50 points but still insufficient to keep them afloat. Poole and Wiggins are also starting to be unreliable while Klay is still on a on/off situation. What happened to the defending champ now? They can't be like this if they still want to defend their title, they won't even reach playoffs in that kind of play.

I, on the other hand managed to collect my bets and got 2/2 today. Both Pelicans and Celtics covered their spreads, I'll try my luck again while I'm still on a streak.

Trail Blazers -2 vs Nets (Should be an easy game for Lillard and Co.)
Kings -7 vs Spurs
1830  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Manny Pacquiao vs. DK Yoo on: November 17, 2022, 01:56:11 PM
So Mayweather and Paul Brothers started this whole even, but as you know, Floyd is very smart, taking fight after fight and in just matter of minutes earning millions without having to sweat it out, like Jake Paul recently against Anderson Silva.

It was Logan Paul and KSI that started all that exhibition fight or boxing with celebrity thing. The main popularity of exhibition fights or "unusual boxing match" kind of thing started from Floyd Mayweather vs Conan McGregor fight. They have created all that hype around boxer vs "other non boxer" fights. But, if their fight was more or less competitive, then other fights are only to get money.

Exhibition matches were already present in the early 2000's but it's so rare that people already forgot about it. Floyd Mayweather started it again 15 years after with Connor McGregor and then these Paul Brothers suddenly surfaced and followed by creating their exhibition fights as well. Until it became hyped that almost all retired or near retirement phase fighters started calling each other to make an exhibition fight, and that's when things got ugly because the true essence of boxing has been forgotten as fighters and promoters are already chasing money.
1831  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 17, 2022, 12:42:19 PM
I saw the news about Dwight Howard is playing on the league in Taiwan. There's now a follow up news that a team there too, the GhostHawks are wanting to take Carmelo Anthony to their team.

So, it's very likely that he'll take the sign there and play for that league. I felt bad again for Melo when he's got stuck with no team want to take him just like the past seasons when he's on the same situation.

But hopefully, he gets to sign there and play against Dwight's team.

Carmelo isn't signing in that league.  If he doesn't get signed anywhere here he will just retire.  Most likely he gets picked up mid season.  His wife La La wouldn't live there she likes the LA/NY life.

That is not yet final and there could be some last minute change if he will still feel that he won't be a having a spot in any team in the NBA soon. I've been reading the articles regarding the likeliness of Melo in playing with the TSG Ghost Hawks of Taiwan and it seems that he will likely finish and retire overseas. But again, these are only mere speculations and we will be getting some news soon enough.

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"Tainan TSG GhostHawks head coach Liu Meng-chu said Sunday that Taiwan Steel Group had greenlit the signing of a marquee overseas player, with a deal for NBA free agent Carmelo Anthony already in the works. At a pregame press conference ahead of Sunday's matchup against the Taoyuan Leopards, Liu said the GhostHawks had opened talks with former Los Angeles Laker Anthony's representatives,"
https://www.basketballnetwork.net/latest-news/carmelo-anthony-could-reportedly-finish-his-basketball-career-in-taiwan
1832  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Terence Crawford vs David Avanesyan December 10 on: November 17, 2022, 12:14:39 PM
^^ That's part of it I guess, no one wants to accept the blame for a fight to not happening as big as this one. But at least we have heard the side of Crawford, maybe it's just half truth or wait, I'm still interested to hear though as who is that hedge fund manager willing to offer them guaranteed money of $50 million, maybe it's just a bluff on his end, hehehehe.

But yeah, December 10, we shall see if Avanesyan is really good as advertised by Crawford as an opponent. Or will it be just an easy fight for him and then his critics will go after him for taking an easy route.

You got some point but I don't think that Crawford was indeed bluffing when he told Al that there's someone out there who is willing to fund the fight, he won't be doing that just for the sake of pressuring Al and the latter is quite smart too and won't believe a single word without a proof. Crawford might have said all those words to save himself from the blaming game.

December 10, our questions will be answered and there might be some bonus statements from Crawford post-fight.
1833  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 16, 2022, 04:49:02 PM
The decision will always on their favor. We can't force them to push the fight unless they are satisfied with the amount that they can collect once the fight proceeds. Greediness inside those people is no longer new. They will suck all the possible amount as long as the fighter is under their umbrella.

Just like what you mentioned about Pacquiao and how things went between him and Arum.

Money talks, as always, with sports that have a huge amount of money that flows each time well-known fighters are at stake.

Not siding with Arum but somehow, we can't hide the fact that his big influence also plays a role in why most of his top fighters are able to earn big money throughout their career. What if Pacquiao didn't land on a big promoter, I doubt he will have some big fights while at the peak of his career. Bob Arum, being a professional businessman in this industry knows how to make big revenue in a certain match. Of course, without a big money flowing on a certain match, how can they even pay their boxers with that guaranteed money (that was different from purse split)?

Boxing is really business at some point, but somehow a boxer can build a legacy while also doing business at the same time.

Bob Arum's just doing what he have to do in-order to make business and pave a way for his boxers to bloom and then maintain their status when they are at the top, in fact, there's a lot of young boxers who would want to be under Bob Arum's umbrella because they knew the exposure that Arum can give to them once they land under him. Just like what he did to Pacquiao, he was one of the reasons why he achieved that status. He knew that Pacquiao will be great, he just pave a way for him because he knows exactly what to do.
1834  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 16, 2022, 04:09:33 PM
Lakers era might be on the verge of ending and same goes with LeBron unfortunately Sad. Maybe he has 1 more year on a full scale but after that , he will be in a decline as age won't forgive him either. It's like in every sport , we are starting to enter in a new era , with fresh players and the one we grew up with , they are getting older .. so I do hope we will see a "last dance" story from Lakers and LeBron.

There's been no Lakers era, to begin with for several seasons already. Prior to the arrival of LeBron, the Lakers are already always out of the playoffs discussion and it was just when Lebron came that they experienced again being in a playoff. Maybe after LeBron hits that biggest milestone of becoming the Top 1 NBA All-Time Points Leader, he might just play relaxed now as nothing to prove now on his career while still making more money.

Although surely, he really does want to be in the Finals again but that would be tough.

Yes, it is clear that he still want to join the Finals again but with their current situation, but that thought might just remain a thought as of now because they are still struggling to win regular games, so it's evident that they cannot even reach the play-offs or even play-in tournament with that kind of play they had. There's still a long way for them before thinking about the playoffs nor Finals, but they still have a chance to improve and solve their problems because the season have just commenced.
1835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: November 16, 2022, 03:46:35 PM
Lost two of my bets today, Nets didn't go through either as well as my Grizzlies bet. I was hoping that these two teams I've mentioned will able to bounce back after their defeats last time but unfortunately, they did not. Ja Morant contributed 36 points in playing 36 mins of the court, quite high but it's still not enough to win because only Clarke and Brooks helped him. While the Pelicans had 6 players contributing double figures each leaded by CJ McCollum.

No Zion no problem for the NOP as CJ lead them in scoring just like how he's doing it way back from the Blazers, while
with the Grizzles Ja' got a huge production but ain't enough to win the game.

Just like you mentioned CJ got numbers who help him to secure the win role players and other stars are contributing well
both in their defense and offense.

Congrats to all who win their bets today!


CJ is always reliable but he cannot be the main man of the team, he is lucky to be in a good team now that is not only good in offense but most especially on the defensive end. Grizzlies is a good team but they beat them with their huge 4th quarter run, CJ was also 7-13 from beyond the arc.

The Pelicans are quite hot this season since Zion joined them again, they are now more focused and their confidence are much higher now which helped them to win some of the games without Zion sometimes. The good thing about this team is all of them are reliable enough, not just Ingram or CJ, even their big man can put up huge score. They deserved that win!

I see that the Warriors are on the road again versus the Suns, might be best to avoid them for now because they are too unpredictable. Here are my early picks for the games tomorrow.
Pelicans -3.5 vs Bulls
Celtics -2 vs Hawks
1836  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3 on: November 15, 2022, 03:50:01 PM
Seeing Casimero heavily favored from the poll is not really that surprising and people are just waiting for his comeback since he was stripped by his WBO belt. So far, things are going well with Casimero inside his camp and I'm just not used that he's so silent since this bout has been finalized, so I assume that they're so serious inside the camp and with just a little 2 weeks left from his fight, it seems that he doesn't have that weight struggles anymore. Already excited about his return!

Anyway, here's an article I found earlier regarding Casimero's plans should he succeed in his upcoming fight.
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"If I win against Akaho I want Naoya Inoue next as long as he does not run. I respect Akaho because he will fight me, he is not afraid," -Casimero said in an interview with A-Sign Boxing.
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sports/boxing/850209/john-riel-casimero-targets-inoue-showdown-after-ryo-akaho-fight/story/
1837  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Too many chickens own BTC. Don't be a chicken, HODL! BE A LION. on: November 15, 2022, 03:07:14 PM
A common advice but has been recommended by the veterans = HODL!

HODL if the market is dipping, HODL if the prices are much more lower than the price when we obtain it, and if the price is sky rocketing then that is the best reason why must HODL more. We must not forget the reason why we're here in the first place and our aim why we're trying to be patient, we sure ain't here to lose money. Just like what the OP said, don't be one of those chickens who chickened out and panicked when the market is challenging our patience.
1838  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Manny Pacquiao vs. DK Yoo on: November 15, 2022, 02:05:02 PM
For retired boxing legends then we dont actually know into our minds on why they do still consider on involving themselves on boxing as they had retired already.? If they do really mind off
their health then they wont really be considering on fighting back up again on the ring.If they do really mind off about on not on getting forgotten then this might be their inspiration
or something that do really mind off about having some fight for the benefit of some charities.Its true that minding about on whose gonna win wont really be that
relevant with these exhibition fights as if the results were already clear.

We cannot really force them nor blame them if they still want to fight because boxing has been their life ever since, it is given and somehow understandable that they cannot just say farewell to the sport they loved the most as they also missed the moment inside the ring being cheered by the people around the globe, especially the guys who became a legend playing professionally. Whether if it is for charity or not, they just want that to feel that feeling again and contesting the fight in the form of exhibition matches mean that just want to play it safe while enjoying the sport they loved the most.
1839  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Terence Crawford vs David Avanesyan December 10 on: November 15, 2022, 01:05:15 PM
He is a European Champion, not in the top 5, but definitely in the top 10 of the welterweight division.

Crawford goes on to say though that no one wanted to take a fight with him and so he goes with David here. Although we have heard that Ennis and Ortiz Jr should be recognized as his potential fight but who knows, maybe again boxing politics behind make this fight impossible.

So he chooses Avanesyan as his next opponent, for tuneup for a bigger fight for next year.
I think either Crawford or Spence are ducking each other lol, we don't know which is right and which is wrong. It's odd to see Crawford announce his opponent first rather than Spence, moreover the fight between Spence vs Thurman still not official yet.

IMO in the end both Crawford and Spence will fight since there's many fans and boxing enthusiast really want it happen.

Hehehe, but it seems Crawford really want to fight Spence, but the terms though.

In any case here is what Crawford has to say again, and why he chooses David Avenasyan

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“I’m not listening to all these guys, ‘Oh, he’s fighting a bum, a cab driver, this and that,’ Crawford said. “Because they don’t know boxing. There’s a reason why a lot of people turned this guy down to fight him and why he hadn’t gotten his shot.

"Me, personally, I’m gonna go in there and do what I’m supposed to do. I’m focused, I’ve been training tremendously hard like I would anybody else. I never take any opponent lightly.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-defends-avanesyan-fight-im-not-listening-guys-saying-im-fighting-bum--170435

So that is his justification, might be true or not, but we will see if Avenasyan is a good test for Crawford in this fight.

The odds are saying otherwise, Avenasyan is still 7:1 underdog.

People just cannot understand the true reason why the fight haven't materialized from what has been expected, people just loved to point their fingers anywhere until the boxers will be forced to release statements so that they won't be blamed Grin quite funny because they cannot accept that this undisputed fight is somehow impossible to happen. Both camps already moved on, Spence got Thurman and Crawford also have Avanesyan, but I'm just really curious what Crawford meant in his statement above. I guess we will find out this 10th of December.
1840  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 15, 2022, 12:31:17 PM
The Brooklyn Nets play is just too obvious. Just don't let Durant get the ball and all is well.  Grin
The Lakers won thanks to that lack of ball rotation from them. Plus, AD is superb today as he leads the team with 37 points and 18 rebounds.
This is the Lakers that I want to see, transition plays, everyone touching the ball to get their rhythm, and letting everyone contribute on both ends of the floor.
They did a great job even without Lebron, I hope this continues.


It's pretty promising that the Lakers won the game without Lebron. But in this match they won, their opponent was the Brooklyn Nets, it should not be forgotten Cheesy
The Nets may be in a crisis right now and it may be difficult for the team to recover. I think they have been one of the most inconsistent teams in the league this season. Some matches can be played very well, while some matches can be played very badly

It's fairly interesting and shocking that they really defeated the Nets even without LeBron, also, we saw that their play is different when there's no LeBron on the court. It turns out that they are more flexible because they are not following Lebron's lead and they are just on their own, enjoying the game while punishing the Nets. I may be wrong but I certainly hope that they will be consistent on their performance.
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