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1821  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: wow ,almost 30,000 unconfirmed trans on: November 28, 2016, 03:08:02 PM
The fact is the unconfirmed transactions just prove Bitcoin is not ready for prime time. That's why it's still in beta after all these years. I suspect the same group of devs are working on Bitcoin that are working on the new forum. They will probably be released from beta at the same time. LOL
i didnt know that the core software is still in beta phase and i have found no details regarding that even while searching,i thought unconfirmed transactions are present because there is an attack on the network or the miners are avoiding low fees to pass through

Yes, it is still listed in Github as in beta. I actually have to give them props for that. They know it's not ready and they list it as such. Gavin Andresen, wherever he is, has said over and over again,  "Bitcoin is an experiment and you shouldn’t invest your life’s savings. You should use it at your own risk.”

Another famous quote from Andresen, "The currency’s value is built almost entirely on speculation, so any indication that the system is less than bulletproof can cause a major price shock".

I am a Bitcoin user. I've mined more Bitcoin in the beginning than most of you will probably ever own. I come off as "Debbie Downer" all the time because I tell the truth. I want people to see what Bitcoin is right now, not what it has the potential to be 40 years from now. I've had lots of friends on this forum and personally that lost lots of money using Bitcoin. It's easy to say "it's not bitcoins fault Mark Karpeles was a crook". While that's technically true, it's also true that he was the only exchange in town for a long time. Bitcoin gave him the opportunity to steal from all of us. While computer security is the individuals fault, Bitcoin having no big bank fraud protections and being used from insecure computers allows stupid people to be ripped off (not that I considered Allinvain stupid).

I just want everyone to know what they're dealing with and accept the risk. That way when you lose your money and go running to mommy government to fix it I can laugh at you. LOL
1822  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians on: November 28, 2016, 02:44:38 PM
In the USA there is tribal police. The problem is, they report to the Bureau of Indian Affairs (a federal govt agency) and are supervised and usurped by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. If a city cop finds a murder and the FBI wants to handle it they just tell the city cops to go away. Same thing with tribal police. Their powers are limited to non federal crimes. They're more like meter maids issuing tickets than cops.

From what I have heard, the tribal police has near-zero power. Even if a violent crime (such as murder or rape) occurs inside the reservation, the tribal police can arrest the perpetrator only if both the victim and the perpetrator is Indian. Else, they must call in the state police.

Yes, it is sad. We treat them like children.
1823  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: wow ,almost 30,000 unconfirmed trans on: November 27, 2016, 11:19:49 PM
Don't worry about it jbreher. All he ever does when he's losing an argument is call someone a troll. That's like the pot calling the kettle black (no racial pun intended).





The fact is the unconfirmed transactions just prove Bitcoin is not ready for prime time. That's why it's still in beta after all these years. I suspect the same group of devs are working on Bitcoin that are working on the new forum. They will probably be released from beta at the same time. LOL
1824  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What does a President Trump mean for Bitcoin? on: November 27, 2016, 11:05:14 PM
His appointments to The Executive Office of the President so far are starting to look a little like the Schutzstaffel (nazi SS). Bitcoin (or something like it) could be very useful to an egomaniacal POTUS that wants absolute control.
1825  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians on: November 27, 2016, 10:53:19 PM
IMO, at least within the Indian reservation, the sovereignty should be handed to the native people. The US government and police must stay away from the reservations. The Indians can form a police force within these places, to maintain security.

Their sovereignty is similar to the individual states in the US. They have control unless the federal government has the only authority (like printing money or negotiating with foreign nations, only the federal govt can print money). They call the tribes "domestic dependent nations". They are in control of everything NOT specifically granted to the federal government by the constitution.

That sounds great until you realize in the past 250 years the federal government has managed to create federal authority over almost everything. Here's an example: The constitution clearly lists the individual freedoms of all citizens. I think everyone in the world that knows anything about the good old U. S. of A. knows this. However, after the Patriot Act, if I'm a federal cop and want to step all over your individual freedoms I just utter these magic words "you are a terrorist" and your freedoms are gone. You no longer have the right to a trial, no free speech, can't contact anyone and I can put you in prison for the rest of your life and no one will even know where you are. God bless America, eh. LOL

In the USA there is tribal police. The problem is, they report to the Bureau of Indian Affairs (a federal govt agency) and are supervised and usurped by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. If a city cop finds a murder and the FBI wants to handle it they just tell the city cops to go away. Same thing with tribal police. Their powers are limited to non federal crimes. They're more like meter maids issuing tickets than cops.

They act a little like the Corrections Corporation of America. The CCA hires cops (corrections officers) and controls them like a regular police department but they have no authority outside of the prison and are controlled and funded by the government.

1826  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians on: November 27, 2016, 04:32:16 PM
That's crazy about Canada. I had no idea. That's an even better reason for the UN to investigate the human rights violations for, I guess, all of North America. One of the primary goals of the UN is to investigate and alleviate suffering and human rights concerns. Maybe they're just afraid to step on the toes of their boss the president of the United States.

Thank you all for commenting in this thread BTW. I emailed a link for this thread to Prince Zeid bin Ra’ad Zeid al-Hussein the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights and Ban Ki-moon the Secretary-General of the United Nations. Let's see if they care enough about human rights to investigate one of the big boys.
1827  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians on: November 27, 2016, 08:00:27 AM
Unfortunately, getting them involved is not the solution, and could end up causing more conflict than the resolve. The UN sure has a track record for it...

The only thing that can be done is to join them and give them all of our support, force the government to address the issue. Stuff up here in Canada is no better; alarmingly high suicide rates in their communities, insane amounts of missing aboriginal women cases that the government has been saying they would "investigate" for the past decade... it's really tragic and disgusting how neglected they are.

Really? I didn't know that about Canada. The women just go missing and no one does anything?
1828  Other / Politics & Society / Re: TRUMP WINS on: November 27, 2016, 07:58:29 AM
I don't think there's a winner or loser in US elections. I think the whole thing is make believe to give the citizens a warm fuzzy feeling. The POTUS is chosen by big business to advance their agenda. The congressional elections are bought and paid for by PAC money. Any laws that do pass that benefit the people are just for pacification purposes or (like Obamacare) actually make big businesses (like insurance companies and big pharma companies) more wealthy and powerful.

Who cares what the presidents name is, we don't get to choose him anyway.
1829  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fidel Castro Dies at 90. Today is the day Cuba is .. on: November 27, 2016, 07:16:29 AM
You don't think he was really running the country do you? At 90 yo it's likely all he's been doing for the last couple of years is drooling and pissing on himself.
1830  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians on: November 27, 2016, 07:11:33 AM
Thousands of Ex Army Veterans have teamed up and are heading towards Standing Rock to protect protesters of the Dakota Access pipeline from Police brutality. Now, Wood Jr. and Clark Jr. are organizing mass non-violent protection against police violence on protesters in North Dakota.

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“This country is repressing our people,” says Michael A. Wood Jr., a Marine Corps veteran who recently retired from the Baltimore police force to work toward reforming law enforcement. “If we’re going to be heroes, if we’re really going to be those veterans that this country praises, well, then we need to do the things that we actually said we’re going to do when we took the oath to defend the Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic,” he asserted about his plans to go to Standing Rock.Woods Jr. is joined by Wes Clark Jr. Clark Jr. is the son of General Wesley Clark, the famous military leader who once warned that shortly after 9/11, the government had its eyes on Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. Clark would later attempt to distance himself from those statements but still managed to convince his son, a member of the Army at the time, to stay away from Iraq.“I was like, ‘I’m going back in. I’m going to go in there and fuck people up,’” Clark Jr. recalls of his desire to fight for the military after 9/11. He later changed his mind after his father warned him, as Task and Purpose summarized, “that as a soldier he would be fighting a war that had nothing to do with defeating al Qaeda.”

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/22/us/veterans-stand-for-standing-rock-trnd/index.html
1831  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: wow ,almost 30,000 unconfirmed trans on: November 25, 2016, 11:45:09 PM
I didn't blame anyone, that's your preserve


And "nothing happening" and "in the works" cannot both be simultaneously true. Troll harder.

I think I've now met the only person here that's a bigger troll than Frankly.
1832  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: wow ,almost 30,000 unconfirmed trans on: November 25, 2016, 10:09:40 PM
lol @ "fix the fucking thing"

What's stopping you from coming up with a fix?

The real issue here is that fixes to the scalability of Bitcoin have been in the works for years now, and we're finally getting to the point where something concrete is about to happen (with lots of groundwork already done).

In other words, the issue is your ignorance, and your attribution of blame to anyone except yourself. If you don't know what the outline is for improving the Bitcoin network, and you do nothing but complain, it's no-one's fault but yours. Get reading.

I'm not the cheer leader or the preacher trying to get mass adoption. You fix the thing. I'm not a dev, I'm a user. Most people don't blame the customer for problems with their company (and that's what Bitcoin is competing with - companies). Be careful with that attitude because companies fail and customers move on.

Nothing is happening and just it's been in the works for years doesn't mean it's close.
1833  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: wow ,almost 30,000 unconfirmed trans on: November 25, 2016, 09:22:33 PM
How can we increase adoption, make Bitcoin mainstream, and make it a one world currency so that no one in the world can actually spend any money. LOL

To the moon. ROFL

first make all users download the blockchain ( this is very important )
then you make them send their btc to a LN node
then they can timelock these bitcoins and open channels
then they can buy 30,000 separate cam shows and only pay 12$ in TX fee
they have to do this before their time lock expires and closes the channel ofc...

*image*
thats how its done.

The problem with that theory is that people don't like to be first and they want to see things work perfectly before they try them.

No one other than cultist bitcoiners will ever download the entire Blockchain. Hell, even I won't ever do it again. I lost my copy of the entire chain a little over a year ago, waited two days for it to never catch up and quit. I'm an SPV kind of guy forever after that. Pruning mode in the new clients is a joke and if you want to revert to a full node you need to redownload the whole thing again.

What are you going to do about laptop people? Over half of the people I know only own a laptop, believing it stupid to have both a desktop and a laptop when the laptop does everything they want to do. Most, if not all, of these "laptopers" have less than a 500gb SSD drive. Which would you prefer to do? Make them rearrange their lives to accommodate bitcoin by purchasing a dedicated bitcoin desktop or make Bitcoin the only thing on their laptop and run only a client with the prune=<500> switch set?  Both options are not only ridiculous but will not happen because no one will do it when they can just use ApplePay or a debit card instead.

Really big blocks - when is that happening again?

For those that really didn't understand what I'm getting at:

Fix the fucking thing so it's capable of being used by more than a few hardcore bitcoiners worldwide and stop making excuses for its problems. Recognizing a problem is the first step toward a solution.

No one ever sits back and looks at what these average people would need to do to use Bitcoin or if they would be willing to do it at all. Currently, most wouldn't because they're too lazy.


One single stadium holding 1/3 the number of daily Bitcoin transactions worldwide. After nearly seven years that's a problem.

BTW: Why is Bitcoin still in beta after seven years? Most companies would go broke if they waited this long.
1834  Other / Archival / Re: Which one is better for bitcoin future? Mass adoption or huge price increase? on: November 25, 2016, 04:08:02 PM
Ridiculous question. Mass adoption can't happen because Bitcoin isn't even close to ready for it.

The price of Bitcoin isn't a metric showing the success of Bitcoin. The price of Bitcoin only shows how many day traders and crooked exchanges are fucking with the price for their own profit. The price could crash down to nothing tomorrow and no one could do anything. All the devs in the world in concert with the combined resources of the US government cyber unit and Microsoft couldn't do anything to stop shady profiteers from screwing with the price. One of the great benefits of Bitcoin is that no single entity is actually in complete control and one of the great flaws of Bitcoin is that no single entity is actually in complete control.
1835  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: wow ,almost 30,000 unconfirmed trans on: November 25, 2016, 03:46:30 PM
How can we increase adoption, make Bitcoin mainstream, and make it a one world currency so that no one in the world can actually spend any money. LOL

To the moon. ROFL

first make all users download the blockchain ( this is very important )
then you make them send their btc to a LN node
then they can timelock these bitcoins and open channels
then they can buy 30,000 separate cam shows and only pay 12$ in TX fee
they have to do this before their time lock expires and closes the channel ofc...

*image*
thats how its done.

The problem with that theory is that people don't like to be first and they want to see things work perfectly before they try them.

No one other than cultist bitcoiners will ever download the entire Blockchain. Hell, even I won't ever do it again. I lost my copy of the entire chain a little over a year ago, waited two days for it to never catch up and quit. I'm an SPV kind of guy forever after that. Pruning mode in the new clients is a joke and if you want to revert to a full node you need to redownload the whole thing again.

What are you going to do about laptop people? Over half of the people I know only own a laptop, believing it stupid to have both a desktop and a laptop when the laptop does everything they want to do. Most, if not all, of these "laptopers" have less than a 500gb SSD drive. Which would you prefer to do? Make them rearrange their lives to accommodate bitcoin by purchasing a dedicated bitcoin desktop or make Bitcoin the only thing on their laptop and run only a client with the prune=<500> switch set?  Both options are not only ridiculous but will not happen because no one will do it when they can just use ApplePay or a debit card instead.

Really big blocks - when is that happening again?
1836  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians on: November 25, 2016, 03:02:15 PM
Obama did it for the blavks

Obama has done absolutely nothing for blacks, he only played the race card when it was election time. America is more racially divided than it has been for decades. We have basically been set back to the 60's.

I will agree with you on that. Obama was a puppet of the Clinton crime family and Soros. He couldn't do anything for the African Americans, because he was too busy playing golf. Right now, the blacks are much worse off than they were in 1992.

Well it can be observed that the situation with black people didn't go well in obama's 8 hear term. This goes as well with the indians. I think the u.n needs to interfere already. Look at whats happening in standing rock. It seems that there is very little respect being given to the indians there and there should already be intervention

I agree completely. The UN charter specifically calls out their duties and responsibilities regarding human rights. This situation fits completely. If it was happening in Rwanda or Libya they wouldn't hesitate. Why is the USA off limits when they exhibit the same behavior?

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High Commissioner for Human Rights

The Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) has lead responsibility in the UN system for the promotion and protection of human rights.  The office supports the human rights components of peacekeeping missions in several countries, and has many country and regional offices and centres. The High Commissioner for Human Rights regularly comments on human rights situations in the world and has the authority to investigate situations and issue reports on them.

Security Council

The UN Security Council, at times, deals with grave human rights violations, often in conflict areas.  The UN Charter gives the Security Council the authority to investigate and mediate, dispatch a mission, appoint special envoys, or request the Secretary-General to use his good offices.  The Security Council may issue a ceasefire directive, dispatch military observers or a peacekeeping force.  If this does not work, the Security Council can opt for enforcement measures, such as economic sanctions, arms embargos, financial penalties and restrictions, travel bans, the severance of diplomatic relations, a blockade, or even collective military action.

Various Other UN Bodies

Different intergovernmental bodies and interdepartmental mechanisms based at the United Nations headquarters in New York, as well as the United Nations Secretary-General, address a range of human rights issues. The General Assembly, the Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC) and their subsidiary organs make policy decisions and recommendations to Member States, the United Nations system and other actors. The United Nations Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues (UNPFII), an advisory body to the Economic and Social Council, has a mandate to discuss indigenous issues, including human rights. The Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights interacts with and provides advice and support on human rights issues to these bodies and mechanisms. The Office also works to mainstream human rights in all areas of work of the Organization, including development, peace and security, peacekeeping and humanitarian affairs. Human rights issues are also addressed in the context of the post-conflict UN peacebuilding support activities
 
1837  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: wow ,almost 30,000 unconfirmed trans on: November 25, 2016, 03:05:58 AM
How can we increase adoption, make Bitcoin mainstream, and make it a one world currency so that no one in the world can actually spend any money. LOL

To the moon. ROFL
1838  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians on: November 24, 2016, 09:40:43 PM
You can always count on Texas to get rowdy.

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Austin, Texas — Advocates gathered downtown Austin from all over Texas Tuesday in solidarity with Dakota Access Pipeline protesters.

The "Water is Life" movement began in North Dakota in April, and has since garnered support from people, celebrities and politicians.

In Austin, hundreds of people marched around the Bank of America Plaza shouting, "Texas supports freedom - profit isn't freedom."

Demonstrators say Bank of America is just one of many major banks financing the construction of the pipeline.

"Bank of America is a supporter of the pipelines, Wells Fargo is a supporter. There's other supporters. We need to stop doing business with those supporters so that they realize that what they're doing to the people. They need us, we don't need them. They need our money, we don't need their money,” said one Texan supporter.


Notice one of the signs in the background says, "domestic terrorism".
1839  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians on: November 24, 2016, 05:33:49 PM
^^^^^ Reminds me of a well known quote from Archbishop Desmond Tutu.

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When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land.

The natives are treated like dogs in the United States. This situation must change.

Exactly, living the American dream.

The only ethnic minorities I can see wanting to emigrate to America would be masochists. Either they really love being a maid, busboy or migrant farm labor or they've always dreamed of serving a long prison sentence. Stand up against government evil and earn yourself mace, rubber bullets and a new free one room apartment with a built in roommate named Leroy.

1840  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians on: November 24, 2016, 08:43:26 AM
I just learned that a woman might lose her arm from a concussion grenade thrown at protesters. You can see her bone sticking out in the photo below. I've also put a few shots of what law enforcement is doing to the protesters.



Five cops against a woman armed with a walking stick. That seems fair.



Have some mace for lunch you filthy redskins. Go back to your stupid tepee while I bulldoze the bones of your ancestors.





Better grab your shotgun, I hear there is a girl with a walking stick.



The threatening and scary protesters about to sing an Indian song. Get the rubber bullets, quick!



Everyone loves mace.

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