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1821  Economy / Services / Re: Lunarbets.eu - Bitcoin Sports Betting | Signature Campaign on: April 06, 2017, 12:38:28 AM
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1822  Economy / Economics / Re: Will you invest in a MLM scam in early stage? on: April 03, 2017, 02:48:07 AM
Many MLM offer that promise us rich, I think this is reasonable because we must to hard work, I think there is nothing wrong with MLM, wrong is the person who like to abuse the system of MLM.
You will obtain a profit in MLM if you are on and have a lot of referrals but you should be able to fool a lot of people so that they would bargabung but I am sure this way would sin
Since we are basically talking about scammers what makes you think, that even if you were to drive lots of people there, they will honor the promises and the terms established to those that bring people to them? They are probably going to scam you as well.
Eventually, some of the people are trying to plunge his close person to get in that terrible place, We should be aware it. Some of the people are pushing another person to get in that place just try to make his amount will be cash out for fast. This way to push his investment in the HYIP scheme. That's just for fool another people.
Correct, even bringing people to those scams is morally wrong since you know very well that those people are scammers so any single person someone brings there is going to lose any money they invest at that site, that is why it is better to stay away from it.
1823  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin business idea on: April 03, 2017, 02:45:25 AM
If I started a business based on btc, and money were no object, I would offer savings accounts where I paid interest on deposited funds.

Only if I could offer people insurance in case I couldn't make ends meet, which I currently am not in a position to do.

I do some minor investing where I can earn a percentage increase via whatever disposable cash I have on hand.
So you basically want to create a bitcoin bank?, That is very hard to do, depending on where you are the amount of regulation you will face will be enormous, then you will need to face the distrust in general that bitcoin users have against banks, then you will need to secure the coins and that is just the beginning.
1824  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ANY STRATEGY TO WIN IN GAMBLING? on: April 03, 2017, 02:41:10 AM
hello guys,
is there any proven strategy to win at least $5 daily?
NO martingale rule please.
These games are called games of chance for a reason you are never going to get any kind of fixed return, even if you play  a game like poker or sports betting where your skill is the most important factor sometimes you are going to have bad days and you will be unable to hit that mark.
1825  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: why people use dice bot? on: April 03, 2017, 02:38:08 AM
I suppose some people think that by using a bot they will be able to obtain profits since you are taking out of the equation the human component that makes defeat so easy in some games but the truth is that no matter what kind of bot you use there is no way to modify the house has over you in all of its games.
1826  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Win using martingale system? on: April 03, 2017, 02:36:07 AM
using martingale method is an automatic failure. it is known to be a bad method and with - EV.

I didn't believe in this method even though there are people that are showing their results to be good with it. Still I don't think that this is something to become helpful to all of us, martingale is nonsense and useless strategy. Because no matter what your strategy is as long as you are lucky, you are going to win.
There are people showing good results with martingale in youtube but most likely those people are using  some kind of script to manipulate the results so it show they have earned some money when in reality they have  lost a good deal of it.
1827  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: When investing in a ICO on: April 02, 2017, 01:59:24 AM
I don’t invest on ICO’s at all, the Money goes to devs to make more Money and we are holding a bag of coin we don’t know for sure how much it will cost, if more than ICO price we bought or less, its too risky for me to even consider investing small amount to be honest.
Yes, this is the problem with ICO’s there is no way to determine if an ICO is going to be successful at all just looking at the project, most of the time what determines if a  coin is going to be successful or not is the continued development job done by the devs of the coin.
1828  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: April 02, 2017, 01:57:10 AM
Yes, probably I play gambling for the reason of entertaining. When my money lose in gambling it is enough for that day. Then I play for the other day or another wek. In playingbI control myself by relaxing and think wise before betting to avoid stress. Just alot money when playing gambling then play in long time, just bet small amount. Don't be greedy, just think that your purpose is to make some fun and for the pass time.

Yes I do control myself while playing gambling because I only use gambling just for fun. Actually, I play a low amount of money in gambling so even if I lose I will not regret and yet, I only play gambling just 2-3 times per month. Being addicted in gambling is bad and gambling has a low chance of winning so you better not use it as profitable activity. Gambling is not bad it, depends on you and how you will use it.
That's a great way to gamble, only a few times per month. What about getting your money from? Where did you get your money? Is it from the signature campaigns or something? Good luck in your games!
Everyone has their own style of gambling I prefer to gamble at the end of the week after a difficult week at my job to relax and play some games in a casino, sometimes alone, sometimes with my friends so it is up to each one of us to decide which is the style that fit us better.
1829  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: April 02, 2017, 01:54:14 AM
Yes of course they make sense you can't be like other's who have huge funds of course everyone has their own limits so normally what will happen if you deposited 10$   you will get 11$ while people who invested will get 110$. The return is same but you could only invest what you had so think in that way.
invest only the amount that you can afford to lose that's the general rules of investing, just like you've said mate its only differ with how much earnings will be collected or gained by those who invested much bigger with the same investment system  with you.
Yes that's true and luckily i do follow that most important rule of investing and haven't experienced much losses till now. But i hope you are also aware that in order to gain something or profit taking risk is really important

Investing what you can afford to lose was the general rule for hyip/ponzi. Don't apply it on normal investment because all bussinessman are ready to risk and know what will gonna happened if they lose their investment even though they can't afford to lose it. I do agree that risk is always there in avail to have a profit
I think this is a mistake we can only invest or trade what we can afford to lose while the possible profits of an investment make very alluring the investment of more money you should always think that things may not turn out as you expect them.
It is not always investing what we can afford to lose ,it is depends on every persons insight about what they will going to spend .I don't spend what i can afford to lose because in some investment it is worth afford to lose some capital for you to have in return.
Small investments in gambling is a must because we didn't sure or see any potential on this at first place it is made only to people to have fun and enjoyment.
But that is precisely what it means to only invest what you can afford to lose, while we need to be positive and expect the best results we must also be prepared for the possibility that our investment fails and the money you invested must not put at risk your well being because if it does then that is money you could not afford to lose.
1830  Economy / Speculation / Re: When do you think Bitcoin will reach $1500? on: April 02, 2017, 01:51:34 AM
I say by the end of December for sure, but feeling the summer is a possibility as well.  Your thoughts ?
It depends on how the hard-fork is resolved we had a nice push so it may stabilize for now.
I do have a betmoose bet that it will pass 1600 USD by the end of the year so I would like to see some good action near the resolution date at the end of the year if it goes up to that price myself  Grin
That price is not out of the question, but to tell the truth the FUD that spread the rumor there was going to be a hard fork is still lingering around the forum and to be honest as long there is that possibility I think the price of bitcoin is not going to go up that much.
1831  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Zebpay's Petition to Announce Bitcoin as Legal in India on: April 02, 2017, 01:49:21 AM
Zebpay (over 500,000 users) which is the leading exchange in India made an online petition on change.org in order to make Bitcoin as a legal currency in India, got signed by thousands (almost 10,000 as of now).

The petition can be found here: https://www.change.org/p/finance-minister-mr-arun-jaitley-make-bitcoins-and-cryptocurrencies-legal or in the official website: https://www.zebpay.com/

These are good news a few months ago the Indians adopted bitcoin in a hurry so it will be a good sign for bitcoin to be considered as legal tender there but don’t expect much from any government since they are only going to accept when they no longer have any option at all.
1832  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you want hardfork? on: April 01, 2017, 03:36:07 AM
It depends if it improve the protocol of Bitcoin and make it to scale and compete with the latest technology both in crypto and finance system I will support it. But if it is only to fuel the greed of some people then I am completely agaisnt it.  Hardfork is not evil and mostly needed to implement something to avoid errors and exploits during update/upgrade
The problem is that bitcoin is not your average open source project a fork in bitcoin will shake the confidence of investors and with it the price and if the price of bitcoin tanks then many investors will probably give up on crypto currencies even if things improve in the long term.
1833  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin wobbles as traders turn to other cryptocurrencies amid uncertain future on: April 01, 2017, 03:33:56 AM
What you should be looking at is bitcoin dominance.
http://coinmarketcap.com/charts/#btc-percentage
Bitcoin accounts for 69% of total crypto market cap now, which is very low when you see its overall history. It was ~85% a month back.
I will not be surprised to see bitcoin dominance getting back to over 80% really soon. Bitcoin price have already showing signs of next bull run, money will flow back to bitcoin and dominance will grow again.
Bitcoin could get back that dominance again but the truth is I don’t think that is really important if new investors come then it does not matter if bitcoin is not as dominant as long as new money keeps pouring in bitcoin every day.
1834  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is bitcoin worth? Welcome to discuss on: April 01, 2017, 03:31:10 AM
Investors and nonprofessional people have different thinking about bitcoin. But in my thinking now bitcoin is still worth-able and its price groow above $1000. So we have no argue to discuss about bitcoin price value. In my eyes, bitcoin already achieved a successful place and now it is depend on ourself how we gain and make profit from bitcoin.    
Succesfull for a currency in my perspective is not determined on how much the coin's value is, but how's its coverage and usage in this world. It's no use if there's some altcoins which have overwhelming value but only be used among communities which coverage is low. It's ain't real currency but more likely a valuable digital properties.
This, if no one uses a currency and if it is not accepted everywhere then the currency is not useful, that applies to fiat currencies and that applies to crypto currencies as well so I don't care too much about the price of bitcoin instead I care if I can use it in my everyday live.
1835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: April 01, 2017, 03:29:03 AM
I've read here a lot about "Gambling doesn't make you rich" So I thought about it, and it does make sense. So what do you feel about gambling then? Just entertainment? I think that's not everybody's mindset.

In the back of my mind, I want to be rich but not because of gambling. But when I gamble, I still always want to win. So when you always win, you become more rich and more risk will be involved. Anyway, if I would earn a winning bet that would have a lot of profit from, I would withdraw the initial bet or the bitcoins I deposited to get it back, then still gamble.

If you would have a winning bet that would give you a lot of profit, what would you do with it?
It depends on the size of the profit if the profit is small I will probably save it but if it was a big profit then I will probably spend a part of it in something that I like like a short trip to the beach or something like that since I have not taken a vacation in a long time.
1836  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: April 01, 2017, 03:24:41 AM
Mistakes with gambling takes place often. People with the hope of earning good participate into gambling and in a short things go out of control and loss happens. Some overcome it in a short realising the truth but few loss everything and ends in a short. Mistakes in gambling based on the user.
Mistakes happen in gambling all the time but it depends on the size of the mistake if it is worth remembering since if you lose a few dollars then you are probably not going to remember but if you lose hundreds or even thousands of dollar you are never going to forget.
1837  Economy / Goods / Re: Found this HODL snapback haha swagg on: March 31, 2017, 02:26:06 AM
Nice minimalistic design. But quite pricey for a hat, isn't it? I still want to own one though. Guess the bitcoin logo made this merchandise expensive.
Yes the design is cool and the other cap looks perfect for casual outfits but the only downside is the price which is very expensive for a cap Roll Eyes. If the price will go down a little bit then i will buy at least one of those caps because i like how it looks and also those HODL and the small Bitcoin logo.
It is on the expensive side but I don’t think the bitcoin logo was necessary since we all know what that phrase means, it is a good product but I think the price needs to be lowered if it is it may sell great quantities of it.
1838  Economy / Economics / Re: WILL BITCOIN BE USED BY ALMOST EVERYONE IN 2022? on: March 31, 2017, 02:23:25 AM
The popularity of bitcoins is very limited at a moment and it has not reached to each and every corner of the world so its hard to believe that everyone will start using bitcoins in such short time frame and there will be many people who will prefer to stay away from it and continue with fiat.
Bitcoin is in a deadlock, if many people used bitcoin that would incentivize more people to use bitcoin but for that to happen more people need to use bitcoin so we are trapped in a loop that does not seems to have a way out, so we can only try to promote bitcoin ourselves and see a slow adoption ob bitcoin.
1839  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are you a bagholder? Which altcoins do you hold? on: March 31, 2017, 02:18:38 AM
Personally I'm not a bagholder of any coin. But also IMO it's pretty risky anyway. You better diversify your investments and stick with multiple but smallers holdings in different coins.

This is exactly what I do. Here is a good example. Let's say you "win" with your investment and make 7 wins and 3loses if you use the same amount each time you will profit. If you only pick one and its the losing one then you lose as if you had lost all 10 times.
This is the a good way to reduce the variance and it is a strategy used by all investors and traders in the world since it helps to reduce the risk of losing your money since you don’t have all the eggs in the same basket.
1840  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to make a good amount with 0.01BTC? on: March 31, 2017, 02:16:39 AM
0.01 BTC is like to make donation if we try to convert into huge money. If nobody can't afford to take big risk than he don't need to do this. I think invest into any altcoin at the moment is very profitable now all top coins are helping the people to make big profit.
There are not many ways to convert 0.1 BTC in a lot of money, because you will need to take great risk to try to do so, for example someone may decide to buy lottery tickets with that money, while winning the lottery is almost impossible you will have the chance to multiply your money.
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