6 cards (48 chips), running non-optimized deliver 222GHs peak (at an unspecified operating voltage). This is a total of 1,332GHs or 1.332THs peak, in normal mode. (Not Max, because that would be "turbo", and that is not how these are being setup.)
By those estimates, the projected 6x (48 chips), would operate within specs, slightly below the "chips" "normal voltage". Which, for the AMT 1.2THs miner, would be the units "normal operating voltage", or "stock setting".
Hope AMT is generous with the first production of non-optimized and heavily-populated boards. (Would like to know what the chip-count would be for the units still... Anything over 48 would be freaking great! But 48 would be plenty still. 1.8THs potential from a 1.2THs machine, and I am happy.)
Well if Bitcoin.ch advertised their units at 1 THs systems and are shipping 5 modules, then I do expect AMT to ship with 6 modules at 1.2 THs. Will this break the bank? At $90 per chip x 48 = $4,320 add $500 for everything else... $4820... list price $5999... still enough room to make decent profit. AMT will need to make a 48 chip system profitable at $5,999. Cointerra is already at $5,999 and is advertised at at least 1.6 THs. |
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I do not know if you are a paid amt spokesmen with lack of knowledge or just a troll but among all stupid things posted the underpaid share and diff 64 made May Day. As native English speaker you should be aware of the luck and variation meaning.
In short they used diff 1 or underpaid share as you call just to avoid the variation and show the performance for a minute. With overpaid share it will be the same but more time is needed. I do not have free time to comment all buy one all of your bright and shiny thoughts. Please take my apology for that Obviously you don't mine with an army, like I have... You submit 10,000,000 diff-1 shares and tell me your miners don't run slower submitting crap... You put the work-load higher on big miners, and put the "submit shares" to 256 for THs miners, not 16-diff, which slows down the network, sending millions of share-hashes. Sending 1,000 a second is too much, stops CGminer from actually processing blocks, lowering your average. That is why they changed the pools to auto-adapt to flooding of crap. Want a tip... if you are in a pool... use small shares with small miners and smaller workload sizes of 64. You finish work faster, and submit a few more shares than the guy with a 256 workload size. He is still "processing" while you have submitted 4 shares. When the next block arrives, or your solution, you have already submitted, and his 256 workload still processing gets rejected for being late, by the time it actually submits. For a THs miner, that is death, submitting too many orders too fast. You got speed, you need those bigger orders to stop from flooding the threads and the miner and the network and the wallet and the pools processing all those hashes to confirm they are valid before accepting them as "credit". Networks buffer like crazy, you will lose more credits and "found blocks" due to your ISP buffering the hell out of your puked data. Whoa... impressive wisdom here on Bitcoin mining. Saved for posterity. |
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Raskul,
What do you mean you short sell Namecoin and Bitcoin? How's that possible?
as soon as my mined coins are mature, i sell them, a short sell (not holding long) - i guess it's just a turn of phrase. i use margin calls on stuff like oil and kazakhmys, but I don't mine oil or copper... just dabble with the shares in them Well I frequently go on margin with Bitcoin or Litecoin just in the event of a buying opportunity (like today). |
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Raskul,
What do you mean you short sell Namecoin and Bitcoin? How's that possible?
There are of course a couple of ways to go short Bitcoin. I am unaware of a means to short Namecoin. |
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Lol, that's what I was saying a while back about piles of merge miners not having enough IXC in their accounts, at the current price to warrant then taking the time to download a wallet and transfer from their pool. If the value goes to $10+, then I think some of them will start taking notice and taking the time to harvest their IXC coins. Until that time, you will need to find other interesting ways to get them to move those frozen coins around.
the merge mining does mine the coin for every user, but if the user doesn't specify a wallet address for ixcoin, it gets donated to the pool, so the coins are in fact being mined, but not necessarily being harvested by the miners. The coin is dilluted to hundreds to even thousands of miners over 2 1/2 years. Only takes the guts of a speculator to start driving these prices up so they take notice. |
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Lol, that's what I was saying a while back about piles of merge miners not having enough IXC in their accounts, at the current price to warrant then taking the time to download a wallet and transfer from their pool. If the value goes to $10+, then I think some of them will start taking notice and taking the time to harvest their IXC coins. Until that time, you will need to find other interesting ways to get them to move those frozen coins around.
iXcoin is probably one of the most evenly distributed coins out there. 14 million IXC coins were merged mined... so IXC coin is in the wallets of a lot of Bitcoin miners. The amounts are so miniscule that they don't even bother to send these coins to an exchange. It is likely these IXC coins are still sitting in the bitparking and ghash.io pools. Who knows if people have lost passwords to access these coins. Who knows that if after 2 1/2 years whether these coins were accidentally lost in a hard drive. A lot of IXC coins may actually be sitting in BTC-E wallets! People may have not even bothered to withdraw them when they closed down IXC 2 years ago. |
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Ah, the swiss posted their video.. came in at 1060W on 40 chips - TO THE WALL!
I'm assuming it is 40 chips. How many chips on an AMT 1200? |
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Loshia stop making problems. I said I liked the member that offered that bet, that it was funny, to give an over under on a wattage spec and then parlay it with a hashrate. He made a joke and it was humorous.
Wattage is 0.9 nominal as projected. Loshia, we use a different board in this miner than the one board you've had experience with thus far. You of all people should know that the board makes the difference. If you'd like, we can have you review our miner as well. Would that be something you'd like to do Loshia?
Review? I can do a review too. Website is http://www.legitcoinage.com |
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You are on a Mac running the client on a Windows virtual machine?
two mins, i'll get down on the floor and try it from there... ADD: still the same error, when working at the windows terminal directly. Try going on to command line. |
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Bitmine.ch now shipping out of warehouse! Okay, AMT, can we expect the same? Now for some good news: This configuration is running stable in our labs at slightly more than 1 TH/s, exactly the promised nominal performances for a 5 modules Desk unit.
The power usage to the wall was 1060W which is already a world-record, but the production units will even be slightly better due to further optimizations done in the meantime. 5 modules... 8 chips per module... 40 chips per unit at 1 TH/s? 1060W? So is AMT going to run a turbo mode to hit 1.2 THs? |
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damn, this is annoying! if you were able to send them from your windows wallet... why am I having such trouble!!!???  You are on a Mac running the client on a Windows virtual machine? |
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Maybe a wager is called for here! AMT is claiming a much better wattage than what loshia claims is possible. Dude, They just admitted the fact that 900 is fiction and made first steps to the real info 1680 WATS. I just do not get your comment as long as i quoted AMT_miners which supposed to be official AMT account. Did i miss something? So the AMT official says it is at 1680 watts for 1.2 THs miner? Is that correct? So is 1680 watts possible here? |
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Many thanks! Count me in  Your work looks pretty impressive. Would you like to help out with the design of the entire site? Every coin really needs a good mission. The mission we are leaning towards is a philantrophic one where IXC would help serve as a bridge to help people of developing countries achieve improve financial mobility through the use of crypto-currencies. The problem with most developing countries is that at a personal level money to do the most basic of businesses is extremely difficult to make avail of. If I needed money to buy a piglet to grow to become a full grown pig that I can sell to the butcher, that money is only available at the most exhorbitant rates. Now imagine a system that allows for people in the first world who earn next to nothing in interest rates, to make such loans available to people who need it most. Imagine a crypto currency system that makes this possible in an extremely secure manner. |
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Maybe a wager is called for here! AMT is claiming a much better wattage than what loshia claims is possible. |
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bitfury is not obsolete at all. This is most efficient chip in terms of power even though it is old 55nm tech. The only thing is how fast can you scale in terms of installation and what is the price negotiated when investing 5 Mil Ok, I admit that I have not looked at the power numbers for bitfury versus coincraft. How do bitfury and coincraft compare? Why don't we see 1.2 THs systems with Bitfury on board? 1. As far as i know bitfury is not shipping chips anymore. the last sold chips were last year November if i remember correctly. There was a powerful design more chips per board from Bitfury itself and guess it never worked! 2. And designing TH unit in a box is pain in the ass because of various reasons, power, heating, chip density,PCB requirements and so on. It does not matter if it is bitfury coin craft or whatever. Small designs are more flexible in terms of power requirements and cooling. that is the main reason people do not build TH in one unit. But from marketing point of view TH in a box for 600W is a dream Look at the cointera - i am not watching their thread closely but as far as i know instead of 2TH promised they are in 1.3-1.4TH i guess with 30-50% increased power usage also. that is the realty we all have to face. But this is not excuse for AMT and misleading info provided! My theory is that AMT doesn't really care about the retail market. That is why they barely do anything to update the site with more videos or photos. What is very curious, Bitmine.ch is also doing the same thing. No new updates from their website. The retail business was used as a spring board to raise enough cash to either go into the wholesale business or go into massive mining operation. The later has obviously more risk. In general, I think both companies do not want to sell to new retail customers. Misleading info? Don't assume wattage consumption on the idea that we'll use a specific design that available. Or that just because we've used a board manufacturer before means we'll do the same thing again. Regarding your assumption of a massive farm, its not in the pipeline for sure. Both we and the Swiss are of course in it for hardware sale and are taking orders from new clients everyday. As sick as it is this "bad publicity" urges people to verify our legitimacy and in doing so they place an order in the process. I'm sure an update will emerge very soon demonstrating progress thus far. And then we can talk about whats "at the wall". I liked that .3w over under 1.1W idea with parlay on the hash-rate coming in on track, that was a good one. Well that confirms it then, AMT is not in the massive farm buisness. Which makes sense due to the risk involved in such an enterprise. Still, you have not explained your poor retail customer service and lack of updates. So, I'm betting that you don't really care since you have enough orders in the pipeline to be profitable. We haven't been fed with a silver spoon with venture capital like some of the other asic manufacturers in the industry, and therefore can't attribute too much to pr/marketing. Its not like we don't want to do it, its just time consuming and we're still searching for the right person to take that on. It does not take much time to posts photos that reveal progress. Even screen shots will do. But apparently, that's too much effort, which I have no clue as to why that is so. |
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when will order #610 ship? how many times do i have to ask?
I'll be honest, I think they don't care at all. Could be next week or week after next. Your best bet is to sell your spot. I am sure there are a lot of buyers out there. I already sold one of my spots. |
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bitfury is not obsolete at all. This is most efficient chip in terms of power even though it is old 55nm tech. The only thing is how fast can you scale in terms of installation and what is the price negotiated when investing 5 Mil Ok, I admit that I have not looked at the power numbers for bitfury versus coincraft. How do bitfury and coincraft compare? Why don't we see 1.2 THs systems with Bitfury on board? 1. As far as i know bitfury is not shipping chips anymore. the last sold chips were last year November if i remember correctly. There was a powerful design more chips per board from Bitfury itself and guess it never worked! 2. And designing TH unit in a box is pain in the ass because of various reasons, power, heating, chip density,PCB requirements and so on. It does not matter if it is bitfury coin craft or whatever. Small designs are more flexible in terms of power requirements and cooling. that is the main reason people do not build TH in one unit. But from marketing point of view TH in a box for 600W is a dream Look at the cointera - i am not watching their thread closely but as far as i know instead of 2TH promised they are in 1.3-1.4TH i guess with 30-50% increased power usage also. that is the realty we all have to face. But this is not excuse for AMT and misleading info provided! My theory is that AMT doesn't really care about the retail market. That is why they barely do anything to update the site with more videos or photos. What is very curious, Bitmine.ch is also doing the same thing. No new updates from their website. The retail business was used as a spring board to raise enough cash to either go into the wholesale business or go into massive mining operation. The later has obviously more risk. In general, I think both companies do not want to sell to new retail customers. Misleading info? Don't assume wattage consumption on the idea that we'll use a specific design that available. Or that just because we've used a board manufacturer before means we'll do the same thing again. Regarding your assumption of a massive farm, its not in the pipeline for sure. Both we and the Swiss are of course in it for hardware sale and are taking orders from new clients everyday. As sick as it is this "bad publicity" urges people to verify our legitimacy and in doing so they place an order in the process. I'm sure an update will emerge very soon demonstrating progress thus far. And then we can talk about whats "at the wall". I liked that .3w over under 1.1W idea with parlay on the hash-rate coming in on track, that was a good one. Well that confirms it then, AMT is not in the massive farm buisness. Which makes sense due to the risk involved in such an enterprise. Still, you have not explained your poor retail customer service and lack of updates. So, I'm betting that you don't really care since you have enough orders in the pipeline to be profitable. |
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bitfury is not obsolete at all. This is most efficient chip in terms of power even though it is old 55nm tech. The only thing is how fast can you scale in terms of installation and what is the price negotiated when investing 5 Mil Ok, I admit that I have not looked at the power numbers for bitfury versus coincraft. How do bitfury and coincraft compare? Why don't we see 1.2 THs systems with Bitfury on board? 1. As far as i know bitfury is not shipping chips anymore. the last sold chips were last year November if i remember correctly. There was a powerful design more chips per board from Bitfury itself and guess it never worked! 2. And designing TH unit in a box is pain in the ass because of various reasons, power, heating, chip density,PCB requirements and so on. It does not matter if it is bitfury coin craft or whatever. Small designs are more flexible in terms of power requirements and cooling. that is the main reason people do not build TH in one unit. But from marketing point of view TH in a box for 600W is a dream Look at the cointera - i am not watching their thread closely but as far as i know instead of 2TH promised they are in 1.3-1.4TH i guess with 30-50% increased power usage also. that is the realty we all have to face. But this is not excuse for AMT and misleading info provided! My theory is that AMT doesn't really care about the retail market. That is why they barely do anything to update the site with more videos or photos. What is very curious, Bitmine.ch is also doing the same thing. No new updates from their website. The retail business was used as a spring board to raise enough cash to either go into the wholesale business or go into massive mining operation. The later has obviously more risk. In general, I think both companies do not want to sell to new retail customers. |
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If I referred 1 person to express interest. May i get 2 stake?
If I referred 2,I get 3 stake?
If referred 3, I get 4 stake?
Yes. Of course, if you fake the email address and it is not really another person, then you don't get the extra stake. |
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bitfury is not obsolete at all. This is most efficient chip in terms of power even though it is old 55nm tech. The only thing is how fast can you scale in terms of installation and what is the price negotiated when investing 5 Mil Ok, I admit that I have not looked at the power numbers for bitfury versus coincraft. How do bitfury and coincraft compare? Why don't we see 1.2 THs systems with Bitfury on board? |
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