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1861  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it good to accept crypto as a payment? on: February 24, 2023, 07:41:15 PM
OP, This is not a crypto section as far I know this is the Bitcoin Discussion section so I would like t read things more related to bitcoin here I know it's just a title still, but I'm expecting better from you next time.`

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Is it good to accept crypto as a payment?

Answering your question there is a misconception in the community (Newbie) that bitcoin provides anonymity and privacy to the users on Blockchain but it really doesn't provide anonymity to your funds, so if you want a transparent system then Bitcoin acceptance is important it can expose each and everything and provide a really transparent and open Environment as we all need. For privacy and anonymity, you need to hide, you can use mixers to hide.

If your Publick address is somewhere related to your public social account then bro anyone can track each n every single bit of your transactions, so in democratic countries, the use of taxed funds on development projects is a lifetime shady business this problem can be fixed using the Bitcoin network as when you public the fund's transfer addresses then anyone can audit where the government funds are going it can directly eliminate dirtiness in the politics.
1862  Economy / Reputation / Re: WatChe and MusaPk Alt?! on: February 24, 2023, 05:05:06 PM
OP is a newbie and his first post is related to reporting alt accounts, First of I would like to ask OP which one is your alt account as it puts me in wonder that you are reporting 2 members from a local Community which truly means you are from Local community and to maintain your reputation in the local community you don't want to show up with your original account. (It's Just a case)

Anyway, as I am also a member of that local community, so dear this is my assumption that you are from my community and balming my community members haha quite funny as always. anyway if you get some proof then we might reconsider your thoughts.
That is my point of view it might be wrong but dear your shreds of evidence are not enough to prove them guilty.
1863  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: February 24, 2023, 04:47:04 PM
WatChe and MusaPk Alt?!

Here we go again  two of our community members are targeted again, I brand new account and you know what his first post is to report our two members so from here mujhe ye lagta haa ka he/she is from our community open to everyone ka koi niew banda kese 2 members ki report bna sakta not even a single chance.

But oska aik point a little bit suspicious ha its proof of registration copy point but ye aksar ho jata haa i know still he is claiming both are alts... SO i think Watche + MusaPk should need to check it at least once but if you are not wron anywhere then nothing to worry..
1864  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Binance's 98% Dominance: Should We Be Worried? on: February 24, 2023, 04:17:09 PM
OP I am not sure about your analytics In my view, Yes Binance is one of the biggest shareholders in the market but it is 98% Dominance bro It sounds weird. Binance can be a threat to future market situations as you know every time a major Exchange failure cause a market Crash and put pressure on the community also leads to Panic sell. I would like to mention Centralized exchanges play a major role in crypto adoption but with the passage of time, Every Bull cycle will fade out of the Centralized market.

CEXs Services

Staking
Trading
Borrowing Lending
Derivatives

These are basic services offered by the Centralized Exchanges but you know better after 2021 all these offers are available on the Decentralized apps (Dapps). The connection between the Dapp and personal wallets is not considered much secure but things are getting better so I'm expecting 2024 to be a good year for the complete shift to Decentralization.
1865  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: February 24, 2023, 09:50:45 AM

My iss long march ki puri puri himayat karta hun. Hamza bhai qadam barhao hum tumhary saath hen.
Tareekh ki badtreen dhandli ky khilaf jo ap ny ye qadam uthaya hai ham iss uthaye qadam par ap kaa bharpoor sath den gy.

Hamza bhai Qadam Barhao Hum Tumhary saath hen. Grin

By the way, yeh long match kis k khalif ho raha hy ?

Asa na ho k Hamza bhai Qadam barhein aur peechay muur k dekein tu koi bhi na ho  Cheesy

Hahaha Umer Bhai mere dil ki baat krdi apne So,,,  (Nai nai mere bhai betray nai karain gee omeed to baqi Allah behtar janta haa.)
Lagta ha community table update karna pade gaa + Iss baar i report ka sath ye voting ka kuch rules bna dete hain as according to your rank apke votes counts honge as voting power will be = to the forum rank haha details baad ma btai jain gee.. with report iss bar ka winner ka reward 150 trx tha ya 175 i am not sure dekhna pade gaa jo bi haa Reward ko reschedule kia jaye ga hahaha TRX bohat pump kar raha Sikee.. Hhaha no worries amount will be the same for this month as previously mentioned.

Baqi ye hamre Cheif kafi missing rehte hain inka bi kuch kia jaye or az khud notice bi chal rehe so i am affraid ka hamre chief bi azkhud notice na lain lain ka voting ka kia bana behtar ha votes kar diye jain... Jo member rehete hain votes 27 se pehle pehle submit karwa dain enxt time se itna time nai dia jaye ga deadline will be 4 days after the monthly report (From next time.)
1866  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: For those who are just getting started in crypto this 2023 on: February 23, 2023, 04:28:27 AM
A maximum of the Users suggested that do not dive into the altcoins, I am not sure why as in view their basic motive is to show that altcoins are risky and I do agree with them. Bitcoin is also violent in nature for new users as you know anyone who is new cant be more patient. Luna is an example of a new user who faced a lot of losses on the recommendation of Youtube influencers. Anyway losses in the LUNA or Altcoins might be permanent in sense of recovery from the capital point of view but Losses on investment in Bitcoin are cyclical and recoverable. (Loses here doesn't mean lost funds in hacks or Wallet compromise).
1867  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: February 22, 2023, 06:01:54 PM
SNIP
Thank You  Smiley


TO BE FRANK I WAS EXPECTING IN YOUR VOTES MY NAME ON EVERY QUALITY SO ...

Yahan Dhandli hoi ha Democracy ko dafan kar dia gia ha popularity ko dekhte howe main ye Fiasla Mustrad karta hon take aik free and fair selection ho sake and koi fisla qablee qabool na hoga siwaee Hamza2424 kii selection kaa baqi tamam votings ko imported karar dia jaye gaa. Or main ye Sadre Bitcointalk Pakistan ko Guzarish karta ka Election Cheif Umeridees ka iss faisllee pa Articale 6 ka tehat pehel to voting suspend ki jaye then ike khilaf Act ki violence ki karwai akrte howe agli dafa Voting karne se rokkaa jayee..

To ensure i am giving the deadline of 2 days after that i will lead Long march from this Thread to Meta Pakistan request thread and then a new thread in Meta from the name of Justice where after that DT members will vote for haha....
1868  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why are there sometimes big difference between spot trading and futures? on: February 21, 2023, 06:43:09 PM
The primary reason for that in my view is the Volume difference between the Spot and Future markets. One more thing here is the fundamental difference between both of the markets where in the spot market the value of the asset is based on the demand and supply in circulation while in the future market, the market price is based on the time value of the asset as in future the demand and supply of the asset in upcoming time are used. Still dear it might be due to the platform you are using for the trading it may have some bugs which cause price fluctuation between pairs.

Maximum times the minor differences are due to the Volume.
1869  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: February 21, 2023, 04:24:19 PM

___SNIP___


Got it as after reading whole scenario i will explain it in two ways first how to avoid Ribah, and the second why Ribah is prohibited in Islam in my views...

Part 1 HOW to Avoid Ribah

DearRibah ko avoid kar sakte hain hum Ribah lene or Dene wale dono pa grift haa ya nai ispe meri bohat achii research nai haa so mera point galat bi ho sakta.. First thing is Intesrt lena Haram haa its clear cut thing and its one of the top major sins in Islam, Ribah se bachne ka tariqa set up Islamic Banking system as Meezan and Bank Islai provides Ribah free accounts also other Bansk provide these features..

No second half is agar app job karte hoo to Ribah se kese bachoo gee bhai pehli baat agar kisi job maa maximum capital sood hoga i will join join that job haan agar wo mujhe insurance dete ass ospe mera control nai orr wo company ka major capital Halal ha then mere oper InshAllah grift nai hogi as its out of my Power.. I can deny such offer but if its their policy then i cant do anything except for expecting relief from Allah second option leaving the JOB...


Part 2 WHY Ribah is Haram and Who is Guilty

Dear fellow mere analysis ka mutabiq Ribah is Haram in Islam because Islam likes equality and Ribah creates inequality between the Funded people and non-funded people or RICH and Poor. So Ribah is Haram to avoid inequality first and second to remove greed from the Rich people to attract money through money by no effort, To remove distances between the Poor and RICH these are a few major reasons why Ribah is Haram in Islam.

Who is guilty in Ribah, Consider Umeridress is poor (just consider I know he is rich enough) and he needs money for the treatment of his beloved one it can be his mother, father anyone whom he loves a lot. He goes to Bank or an entity to get a loan and that entity puts consideration of Repayment if you are taking 10K you have to return 12k after a month and he has no option left so he considers the condition on repayment and gets a loan now he returns 12k after a month as per condition, Umeridress is not guilty at all the guilt one is Funds provider and he has to face Allah Almighty on the day of judgment for the major Sin of Ribah.

Now consider Umeridress is living well he has a car a good house and a good job too everything is good someone suggests Umeridres invest in crypto 100k for a month to earn profits investment can be anywhere physical market or virtual and minidress has no funds right now, What Umeridress does he approach an entity or Bank to get a loan and they charge Umeridress 4% Intrest on the repayment and he agrees, after 1 month Umeridress gets 10% profit on capital and he pays back the loan with 4% interest now Both are guilty here and both has to face Allah Almighty on the day of judgment. Reason Entity charged interest and he has to answer that, Umeridress supported the loan in fair conditions he has to answer this.  



Yeh video ais topic p hy hi ni, jis ki discussion ho rai hay.

The video is to mention short-term trading in the future, not in the spot let's understand by an example, if i buy something from Umeridress in 10 RS and then someone offers me 11 RS after an hour or 15 i will sell it its similar to spot trading but in future, you are filing a contract to buy/sell on the price where you close the position here first thing is that future contracts are haram second point is Binance and you are a partner in this trade as Binance is Funds provider and he is out after providing funds, Binance will only charge fees on funding and there is contract now between you and Binance imagine is it possible to have a contract in real life for 1 hour for 1 day at least it should be 7day or max..

So video was quoted to explain this situation in the future in Spot things are different...


Hope so Got the answer and still if something left i am human errors are possible,, Try to understand and avoid Ribah in fair conditions as rather you are taking or giving.. Allah Almighty Bless us and show the right Path Ameen

Read the Whole Data i have put my full efforts to make it valueable for all for now and for Future too
1870  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Advantage and disadvantage of cryptocurrency on: February 21, 2023, 02:08:38 PM
* it can be time-consuming
Really dear, I think here you are talking about Cryptocurrency trading.

* the losses are irreversible
Need to be careful while writing, Losses are irreversible in some cases as if you lost your wallet or your wallet got hacked. 

* it prone to scammers

No not at all, if this is the case then dear what are you doing here...

* its discouraged seeking further career

Even crypto is a wider field than you've ever imagined

* it can cause shocks and death

I am not sure is a joke or if you are serious, yes I know there were some reports of the suicides after the LUNA crash but I am not familiar with many incidents like that, and whether those were real or rumors is not clear to me yet.

After this take my advice dear if you want to go long way in crypto especially in BTC then need to be patient.
1871  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Please help me. on: February 21, 2023, 01:54:00 PM
Any one can you help me ?

How to i upload image in Bitcointalk forum and how to connect link this photo. I don't know. Please anyone help me.

Ahh dear so sad your rank is not eligible to post an image on Bitcointalk, as according to the requirements you need to be at least JR Member. For Jr Member rank you need 1 merit on a good post but if you can try the alternatives provided by Bitcointalk in the form o coper membership you can buy a copper membership which will be probably equal to the member rank on that membership you can post images and Gifs.

Format upload your image or Gif on the BBcode img url generator, you can use Imgur or imgbb
full details for posting an image is here [Guide] How to Add image on Bitcoin Talk Post? .

Let me check if you have some decent posts then I would like to help you to achieve the Jr member rank.
1872  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2023, 01:46:43 AM
One thing almost no one is expecting:

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1873  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What If There Is A Ban on: February 21, 2023, 01:10:51 AM
Does it matter dear fellow, Bitcoin is already rejecting all the negative developments. If there's a ban still there's a chance of a small short-term panic, that's it.

My dear fellow, now it's not the time when BTC is going to notice Bans and Regulations for example back 2 years ago 3rd largest country China Banned Bitcoin trading and crypto-related stuff then Bitcoin recovered and not only recovered but also made an ATH. How many times has China banned Bitcoin I can't even count now but as you know BTC is still standing good.

Bitcoin & China time to time waving History
check this out

Now China is going to have some experiments with Bitcoin after June check this out so Ban seems impossible but it is.

1874  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: February 21, 2023, 12:03:43 AM


App ki ais statement ny confusion mein daal dia hay ? Ab kahin asa tu ni k future trading allowed hy aur hum kr ni rahay  Huh

App kay analysis c jo baat rah jati hay woh sirf Interest ki hay aur Interest app ko 8 hours baad dena ya lena perta hay aur aus c phelay koi interest ni hota. Agar app ko interest mil bhi jiey after 8 hours tu you can just remove the amount from your crypto money.

Aus Interest agar mil raha hay apko tu ajj kaal kon si chheze hy jo interest free hy. Apka bank accounts p bhi app ko interest mil raha hay aur jobs mein jo medical insurance milti c ya pension funds wageria woh interest p based hy sara.
Due to some reason, app installment mein kuch leta ho tu bhi interest pay kertay hogay mujbouri c. Yahan bi tu app interst detay ho but app ko pata hota hay k ais ky illwa koi option ni.
Bagi yeh hum p hy k hum jo interest mil raha hay in future trade woh side p kertay jein  Huh

Haha Confusion kesi ha isme ...
As i mentioned dear Baat idhar odhar ki karne ki zarorat nai ha Future ko understand karne ka lia point is Ribah and mere knowledge ma nai ha Without intrest ap kese future trade kar sakte. Main khud in my intial time of trading Futures ma tha but after a few weeks i left it.

Intrest side main rakhne wali baat kuch amjh nai ai as Funding rate to apko dena hi padee ga wo bi intrst ka zumre ma ata haa so how is it possible to trade without intrest in future..
For example if you say what if you do scalping or intradatory then you can get ridg of the Intrest still its haram dear as short term partnership on base of contract is not possible in reality.

Reference:
https://youtu.be/aN9df2XYRNQ

For the highlighted line jahan tak mujhe ilm ha Qabze main lene ka concept ye tha ka Jo product ki app deal karwa rehe wo kharab na ho as in terms of quality.

Additional point Future contracts are haram in my views and I don't we need to have a discussion on it because its clear about future contracts that those are haram.
1875  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 20, 2023, 08:12:41 PM


China and Russia are going to be the 2 major whale producers in the coming bull run in my view even in the current market maximum manipulation of China favored them.

If you consider the current timeline China is going for quantitive easing not sure how the market will behave but it can impact Bitcoin investment capital directly as China is 3rd largest economy...
Some good vibes are coming from such rumors.
1876  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: February 20, 2023, 06:23:59 PM
Bro AP mare baat ky ik pahloo ko neglect karky doosry side pa focus karr rahy ho, ma ny pahla kaha ky yeh ik Tarah prediction haa, jaisa ky BTC down jaya ga toh "short" jabky opper jaya ga toh "long" , toh agr prediction ky mamly ko daikhay toh yeh gambling sy relate karta haa , yo ky sarasr Haram haa. Toh inn points ko mad-e-nazr Rakh kar ma ny Apna suggestion diyaa.
Abhi inn point ki wajah sy Issy avoid karr Raha hu lakin agr ullmah karaam ki Rai ky mutabiq yeh teek haa toh bohout aala hum bhi kood paryngy iss ma.

Meri jaan dekho kia spot ma apko pata hota ha kia market up jaye gi ya down jaye gii do you really think spot ma short trade nai hotii haha then my dear main apko sikha doon ga short trade ka baree ma ka kese Spot ma short trade lete. Kia spot ma prediction nai hoti meri baat future or Spot ma sirf Ribah ki involment ki ha prediction and ye saab ewii ha as point is Ribah Spot is halal due to Ribah free and many ohther points and Future is Haram due to ribah.. Also Qabze ma lene wali baat bi atti ha future ma ka wo sirf contract ha oska answe ha ka ye jo ajkal Amzon Drop shiping chal rahi isme bi Qabza nai hota and Ullmah mutfiw hain ka ye halal ha.

Qabze ma lene wali baat os waqat lago hogi jaab ap as a comission lene wala work karo gee.
1877  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: February 20, 2023, 05:49:04 PM
mera ik Q hay, Kia Future Trading kerna theek hy ?

I will suggest you to prefer listening to Zakir Nyak on that topic as he is more aware of the technology as compared to the Pakistani Ullamhs (Maqsad baat ko smjhna ha Pakistani Ullamah Bohat Qbil hain koi shak nai kuch Ullmah saree nai haha)

Better to have good research on it as Bro RIBA is a very very very very sensitive topic here more sensitive than Gmbling Signature. So the proper search is important here. As far as the Intrest is involved in the trade my Strong recommendation is Future is Haram there is nothing that can save you no argument. As Ribah is directly involved. Next to it if Ribah is not involved then you can have arguments with someone but that someone is not me.

Recommendation: Be careful with this topic i know Hundreds of Future traders but i am not familiar with their research.

personally ma isko teek nahi samajta q ky yeh ik Tarah sy prediction haa aur iss ma zyada chances haa loss karny ka. Aur isse wajah sy ma ny kabhi life ma future trading nahi ki, aur na ma Kisi ko yeh suggest karta hu ky woh Issy try kary.


Weak experience dear, Naqsan hone ka chance se ap judge nai kar sakte karobar Halal ha ya haram as example Koi bi Crop ap bu sell karte osme bi Nuqsan ka high chances ha if apne jahan store ki ha wahan Brish ho jaye then Fasal ma apko nuqsan hoga so profit and loss amount never decides the Halal Haram.

Thanks ap dono bhaio ka k etne ache tariqe se support kiya. mai ne iraada kia hai k aaj k bad yaha par koi airdrop share nahe karonga q k yaha par dosto ko nuqsan ho raha hai aur mai nahe chahta k meri waja se kisi ka nuqsan ho jae so ye Bitget ka yaha par last share ho sakta hai. next airdrop ka wo keh rahe the magar wo Bitcointalk se baahir hee manage kar lethe hai.

Dear Dont get dishearted, Chlata rehta yee sab, So chill i am very happy ka apne share kia Airdrop yahan par what if 20 token mile ya 2 kia apne khud dene the wo to Airdrop dene walon pa ha and ye galat ha mere hissab se ka agar apko 30 milne the ab 20 mille hain to iska faida nai howa hahha mujhe mere school ki baat yaad a gai....

so Story begins here


Moral= Something is better than nothing..

Hmare teacher btaya karte the Poor and Rich mentality ma faraq kia hota so aik social experiment hota ha between two different couples (Couple like 2 different man or women) hota kya ha ka experiment ma 100$ diye jate hain or kahajata ka apko ye 100$ milain ge but ki ko kitne $ milain ge wo experiemtn karne wala decide kare ga agar ap oss amoun pa mutfiq hain to dono ko wo amount mille gi agar apko doare ki amount pa Itraaz haa too dono ko kuch nai mille gaa.

Case One
experiment wala aik ko 30$ offer karta dosre ko 70$ or kehta kya mutfiq ho dono too jisko 30$ mil rehe the wo bola nai mujhe 70$ ku nai de rehe esa karo dono ko 50$ 50$ de doo to dono ko milte hain 0$ 0$.

Case Two
experiemtn wala same amount second group ko offer karta to 70$ wala to already mutfiq tha 30$ wala bi kehta ok manzoor ha dono o onki raqam mil jati haa.

as in case 2 30$ wale ye nai soocha ka mujhe 20$ kam mil rahe osne ye soocha ka mujhe 30$ mil rehe dosre ko kitne mil rehe mujhe ise koi garz nai ye rich mentality haa and first group wale isme hi phase rehe ka 30$ kis ko millain or 70 kis ko and dono ko kuch nai milla..


Lagta ha ye Khtrenaaq Story ka baad meri trollling hogi but this is what it iss ..
1878  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 20, 2023, 05:31:43 PM



This is Business Bro


and

after that post China be like

1879  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2023, 07:28:31 PM

Source

NFTS these days...
1880  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: February 19, 2023, 12:36:03 PM
Asslam o Alikum Community how are you all doing.

Quite busy week haha anyway bohat sare coins pump kar rehe alt and also ye week market ne ach behave kia except ye last wale 2 di. Luckily Fil, ICP, Dot ma meri holding thi soo i took some decent profit booking but seems like main ne galti kardi anyway trading ma chalta rehta as 50% book kia tha main and still hopeful ka market abi bi aik choota dip mare gi agar nai to direct 28k mera first stop ha then dekhte hain kia banta ha market kaa.

BnB pa nazar rakhna Binance announced their Onchain File chain after that annocment BNb ki jaga file pump lar raha still Binance ki 3 chains and native token 1 only so careful BNB ka future achaa ha mijhe lagta.



Apne mulk ka ye haal ha ajkal wessy kisi ko kuch nai pata ka kia ho raha haha Muzakrat Muzakrat ir Giraftari Giraftari chal raha haa awaam bookhi maar raaiii 1k = 100 Now abb realize howa hamare bade ku kehte the ka 100 Rs ki value 10 ka brabar haa byt lagta abb him apne bachon ko same atory sunain gee.
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