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1861  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 17, 2014, 01:58:16 PM

i have struggled with wither or not this thread should get locked.  And as annoying as it may seem.  it seems refreshing to know everything is out in the open. if people are serious long term smart investors they wont invest via Trolls dribble or flag barers or pump n dampers.  they will do market segment research. i believe we are in a far better position now then May.  We need to stay on message and ask tough questions help come up with solutions if need be and more importantly now concentrate on rebuilding our community.

Agreed. Everything has always been open (except a small chunk of the code, for obvious reasons, but that will be opened too when it's ready) and that's the way it should stay.

I'm not sure the community needs rebuilding so much as just expanding - we're all still here because we believe financial privacy is important and DRK is currently the best solution. There's a depth of talent working on DRK that is quite remarkable.
1862  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 17, 2014, 01:34:47 AM
Centralized digital currencies backed by gold are far older than Bitcoin... they didn't end up well, because they were raided of their gold by the government: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-gold

Interesting read, thanks, I'd never heard of it.
1863  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 17, 2014, 01:21:53 AM
There is not a single crypto backed by anything but promises and ppl's faith ......right?   Seems not  - there is some Real Gold trader,offering this community 100 g. of gold for their coins ! ......You will say  hey...100 g.......think about the coin you just invested in.....did it offers you lowest price to bye your  coins? Look @ http://4thjulycoin.com/ . Have some mining pool  - http://inn.hash.sx/ , some BCT place: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700145.80

"INNcoin is backed by 100 grams of physical gold stored in one of Anthem’s Salt Lake City vaults."

Hahahaha, I have old biscuit tins with more gold than that in them. Are you serious?
Hey...what ammount BTC is backed with ? ...or any other coin ....just wondering .....?

It kind of defeats the point.



What happens if something bad were to happen to that gold in the vault?  The coin is worthless...

 Roll Eyes
You must @ least scroll @ their site.....to understand what kind of ppl are you jokin with Smiley

I did, and came away laughing.  Cheesy

Who in their right head is going to waste money on GPUs and electricity to buy a microscopic share of someone else's minute gold reserve? Why not just buy some gold? Baffling. At least then you know it exists.
1864  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 17, 2014, 01:09:30 AM
There is not a single crypto backed by anything but promises and ppl's faith ......right?   Seems not  - there is some Real Gold trader,offering this community 100 g. of gold for their coins ! ......You will say  hey...100 g.......think about the coin you just invested in.....did it offers you lowest price to bye your  coins? Look @ http://4thjulycoin.com/ . Have some mining pool  - http://inn.hash.sx/ , some BCT place: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700145.80

"INNcoin is backed by 100 grams of physical gold stored in one of Anthem’s Salt Lake City vaults."

Hahahaha, I have old biscuit tins with more gold than that in them. Are you serious?
1865  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 17, 2014, 12:56:59 AM
Kristov, where r u mate?

Working, probably.

One of the things I really liked about my brief sojourn in the NXT thread a month ago while I was playing with NXT assets was that nobody cared about the price, they were just getting on with building cool stuff. Admittedly, cool stuff that nobody else understood, but it was such a pleasant change from the constant price-related whining that goes on in here.



Really people, if you don't like DRK just sell whatever you've got and go away.  Kiss
1866  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 17, 2014, 12:28:50 AM
what the fuck price still low .if set stop limit all my coins will make the market being dead .i am not a weak hand .but team should do sth not just constantly release your patches .so many patches what fuck u guys doing now.it is really made me unhappy

Yes, how dare the developers continue with development when they could wave their magic wands!



1867  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 17, 2014, 12:21:51 AM

That's the introductory sentence of every trolls  Roll Eyes
If i am a troll .....you must find asap a rope !


Mate nobody knows what the fuck you are talking about.  Grin
I can ask the same question...... And who TF are you ? .........

Shall i repeat my question for you ?
If everyone calls LTC  is a BTC's biatch.........last 3 days proved that DRK is the second one........or not?   Tell me something ,that will not make me dump my 7k DRK.....PLS !

Dump what you like, I don't care. All cryptos are getting hammered right now, but DRK is still the only that I think is interesting or useful. LTC may once have had some kind of point but no longer, it's completely worthless, at least to me.
1868  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 16, 2014, 11:52:57 PM

That's the introductory sentence of every trolls  Roll Eyes
If i am a troll .....you must find asap a rope !


Mate nobody knows what the fuck you are talking about.  Grin
1869  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 16, 2014, 07:53:06 PM


Meh, my traceroute is back to being re-routed through northern virginia again...

Who's based in Virginia and funds Tor?  Wink
1870  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 16, 2014, 07:33:05 PM
NICE! 

We still need enough cash to hire Morgan Freeman for the voice work.  Cool
1871  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 16, 2014, 07:26:10 PM

If ebay starts taking bitcoin, Amazon won't be far behind. From the on it's all licking icecream out of Nigella Lawson's cleavage.
1872  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 16, 2014, 06:57:41 PM
Creative minds wanted !!

We are working on writing a script for a Darkcoin explainer video and want as many people in the community to pitch in ideas and help with writing the script.

I have seen many people on this thread that are really gifted with a great style of writing and a deep understanding of what Darkcoin is about. That is a really great asset for Darkcoin and we would appreciate your input  Smiley

It would be best to keep the discussion for the most part on the dedicated thread over at DCT https://darkcointalk.org/threads/darkcoin-video.333/

We are currently trying to come up with a easy to understand basic explanation on    What is Darkcoin ?

The target word count is around 100 words.

To kickstart the discussion I put together some text that is mostly from the whitepaper, but keep in mind that this text is only a suggestion of a first draft.


What is Darkcoin:
Darkcoin is the first privacy centric cryptographic currency based on Satoshi Nakamoto’s Bitcoin.
Bitcoin was a remarkable invention. However, due to the very nature of its design, the blockchain is inherently not private. This has obvious implications for users' personal privacy, as all transactions are traceable in the block chain. Meaning that anyone with a internet connection can look up your wallet see how many coins are in your wallet and ultimately find out what you used your bitcoins to buy.
To solve this inherent problem of privacy, Darkcoin was created.

Keep in mind that I am not a very good writer nor a native english speaker.  Tongue  


So lets put on that creative hat and hash out a masterpeace.

 Smiley
Whitepaper quote far too technical for Jo Public.



What is Darkcoin?

Short answer - Like Bitcoin, but anonymous and much faster!

Longer answer - Darkcoin is an anonymous, decentralised currency that lets you send and recieve money 5 times faster and over 10 times cheaper than any other system, to or from anywhere in the world with an internet connection. Decentralised means no one person, government or organisation controls it. Unlike Bitcoin it is completely private, nobody else can see your transactions, just you and whoever you are sending money to or recieving money from.

70 odd words, takes 20 seconds to read out loud at a leisurely pace. Speed and cost factors plucked out of my arse, modify to suit.
1873  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 16, 2014, 05:53:31 PM
I'm pretty sure many of those big dumps were real. At least the last one to .006 on mintpal. A 5k wall showed before the dump which proves my theory that altcoin markets are scams. It was probably the market maker ( The Biggest Whale, owner of those annoying bots, pumper ) that got information that 4k drk's arrived on the exchange. So he wanted to spook him to quickly dump and it happened. But how did he know that those coins hit the exchange?!? Mintpal is a fucking scam operation, transfers should be confidential. But I bet other trading centers for altcoins are no better. Making special deals with market makers in return for volume fees.

Probably noone will believe me, people are so gullible thinking this markets is a fair game for little fish...

No you are quite correct, Mintpal is as crooked as the day is long, and Cryptsy is the same with added incompetence. Poloniex and BTC-e are so obviously on the take it's a joke, but they lack the skills/resources for really high-tech shennanigans.

Bitfinex is the only one that isn't blatantly bent, but just because it isn't obvious...
1874  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 16, 2014, 02:55:31 PM


+1 .... hate them bots....

You probably wont be saying that when their switch gets flipped and they start pushing the price up again.
1875  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 16, 2014, 02:51:57 PM
These motherfuckers are acting smart.

I just watched in progress what's happening on cryptsy.

1) The bot is detecting the lowest selling current price.
2) It is trying to manipulate by putting the price even lower - just for 10-15 seconds. If no one is selling even lower, it takes the order away.
3) Then it waits for 5-7 seconds, and tries dumping again - trying to provoke someone watching it to sell even cheaper than itself. As soon as it happens - it puts the lowest price again, and repeats the algo. Basing upon people who hesitate and panic, it gradually dumps the price.

LUL.

Ask yourself why they are doing that...  Grin  

Nobody goes to the effort of running bots out of malice, but greed is another story.

Anonymous trustless ecash is here, the smart are hoovering it up on the cheap.
1876  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 16, 2014, 02:34:04 PM
Lets first optimize the wallet messaging display. The fact that people think theyre experiencing bugs while theyre not means that there is some work to do in messaging etc. Simplicity and clarity is critical.

Yeah, it's time to abandon the format of the existing wallet, which was never exactly a masterpiece anyway. If your UI needs more that one screen or tab for Joe Average to do what he needs then you've failed to design it properly.

Have a User Wallet, and a separate MN/Dev/Expert Wallet.

It's not hard, I've already built my own, although I can't do DS+ related stuff yet as that's not public. And the expert wallet doesn't need to be pretty, expert users don't care about that crap.
1877  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 16, 2014, 02:21:31 PM
But their 'bought' marketplace is essentially integrated in the blockchain, no?
that doesn't mean that other markets won't accept it, it's just an extra feature of the coin i guess.

I think it would just give the adoption a boost, since all holders and believers of the coin will start using this decentralised marketplace to sell their goods/services or whatever for their preferred coin.

could you give me some of those reasons why currency and market have to be completely separated?
I would find it hard to believe that the creator of the currency and of the decentralised marketplace could be held responsible if illegal goods would be sold/bought there.

Dark on

Consider the integration of ebay and paypal - it's horrible for their customers, just makes it too easy to fleece people with hideous fees.

Competition is a good thing.

edit, regarding bolded part: good luck trying to sell anything 'dark' (for want of a better word, you know what I mean) on ebay. There's a reason they wont let you - they'd get a fuckton of legal shit dropped on them in short order and wind up behind bars.
1878  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 16, 2014, 02:19:32 PM
From what I read, I thought openbazaar was supposed to be decentralized? Either way, I think it's more of a liability to have a market integrated directly into a currency's client. An anonymous currency on its own cannot be held responsible for illegal activity that involves its use. Couldn't say the same if people started listing drugs on the integrated market.

This.

Let the coin devs work on the coin. Markets should remain strictly 3rd party.
+1

Having said that, I still think providing some sort of 'Masternode API' to allow people to more easily utilise the MN infrastrucure is a good idea, but that could take any number of forms and it depends what Evan has up his sleeves.
1879  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 16, 2014, 02:05:00 PM
From what I read, I thought openbazaar was supposed to be decentralized? Either way, I think it's more of a liability to have a market integrated directly into a currency's client. An anonymous currency on its own cannot be held responsible for illegal activity that involves its use. Couldn't say the same if people started listing drugs on the integrated market.

This.

Let the coin devs work on the coin. Markets should remain strictly 3rd party.
1880  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 16, 2014, 11:49:45 AM
There is going to be a simple fix for fringe cases like camo's, it's just a matter of being methodical and finding it.

Nothing stresses people out like money, I'm happy I've spent most of my life without any.  Grin
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