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1861  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 19, 2023, 02:59:14 PM
I think it is certain that both matches will be difficult for Girona. Both Betis and Atletico Madrid are difficult teams and their squads are very strong. Girona has been a great team, but I wouldn't be surprised if they drop points in these 2 matches. There is a possibility of defeat in both matches. While Betis and Atletico matches will be played, Real Madrid and Barcelona will watch Girona from afar and wait for it to lose points.
It will be difficult for Girona, especially when they play Atletico Madrid, but I am sure that the high mentality and self-confidence that surrounds the Girona team at the moment makes me predict that the Girona team will be able to avoid defeat in these 2 matches. I think this is inseparable from Their performance has been quite impressive in their last few matches and in my opinion if Girona can maintain their performance then they deserve to win, they are extraordinary.

I'm surprised that there are still people who underestimate Girona at this moment, even though in reality Girona has managed to be at the top of the La Liga standings at the moment. Also, basically Betis so far this season has not been very good and of course, Girona will still have a chance to win. Even though it is possible, Betis can play well in this match, but still, I am sure that Girona will not lose by Betis.

Also regarding the match against Atletico, in reality Girona will also play at home and of course Girona still has a chance not to lose against Atletico later. After all, in reality previously Atletico played away against Barcelona but Atletico lost. Comparing with Girona playing against Barcelona and yes, in reality Girona was playing away when playing against Barcelona, but in reality Girona managed to beat Barcelona with a score of 2-4.

With results like that, I am sure Girona will still be able to maintain their good results in the matches against Betis and against Atletico in the next two La Liga matches.
1862  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 19, 2023, 02:35:59 PM
Juventus still continues to chase Inter Milan. That's why the fact that Juventus is in the race for a good fight increases our viewing pleasure. Despite some bad and mediocre performances, they are still competing for the championship together with Inter. Somehow they manage to win matches. It won't be a problem as long as you win the match. They will continue the championship race as long as they get 3 points.

Juventus has no alternatives, let's remember that they don't play any cups and therefore must necessarily win something.
After all, the players are fresh, the minimum is that they are behind Inter, who we remember also play the Champions League at excellent levels.


Although Juventus are still competing in the top two with Inter but ya, I believe that Juventus do not have a good chance of getting the scudetto this season. Although indeed, Juventus in this season get a more relaxed schedule still, this factor does not make Juventus have a good chance.

Because after all, Juventus did not have a good performance at all and it was always difficult to make goals even though they only played against mediocre teams. Therefore, I believe that Juventus this season will still fail to get the Scudetto, because Juventus do not have great performance and quality at this moment.
1863  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 19, 2023, 02:22:41 PM
Chelsea is in the state that I described above. We saw it when they drew with Manchester city 4 : 4, the celebrated like they won and their subsequent matches were disaster. Last week, Manchester United drew with Liverpool and celebrated as if they won the league. Something is wrong.
United were obviously the happier of the two teams, Liverpool dominated the game and they felt unhappy that they couldn't get the three points. I know that United is a big team and you don't expect them to be parking the bus, but what do you expect from Ten Hag, if he came into that game with the mind to attack, they would have lost heavily. He gave Liverpool all the respect in the world, sat back and got a point for all his troubles, and though they were happy, they weren't celebrating the way you put it.

I think about Chelsea success in holding Manchester City to a 4-4 draw and then, Manchester United success in holding Liverpool to a 0-0 draw. I think it's natural for Chelsea and Manchester United to celebrate these results, no matter whether they celebrate like winning a tournament or just an ordinary celebration.

Because after all, considering the situation and condition of Chelsea and Manchester United at this moment, which can certainly lose but ya, in fact Chelsea and Manchester United managed to hold a draw against the seeded team like that. So ya, with their success in not being defeated by Liverpool and Manchester City then yes, I think their happiness is natural to happen.
1864  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: December 18, 2023, 04:44:34 PM
Feyenoord and Roma are going to face each other again.  Grin First they played in the Europa Conference League finale. Roma won the title by winning the game 1-0 back then. After that they played against each other once again in the Europa League quarter finals. Roma eliminated them there as well. They have a really good record against Feyenoord recently.

And now Feyenoord must be a little worried about their matchup because of that. They would surely play fearlessly anyway but I think Roma will once again be the side that move on. They had better do so otherwise Mourinho's credit would get lower than now.

Yes indeed, based on their head to head record so far, that AS Roma has better results than Feyenoord. Also, at least Feyenoord always failed to eliminate AS Roma in previous matches as you said too. Although it is basically at this moment also Feyenoord is a team that played in the Champion League before.

But perhaps, because at least AS Roma has better quality, then even though Feyenoord previously played in the Champion League, it certainly does not guarantee that Feyenoord will be able to easily defeat AS Roma. But yes, although AS Roma remains the favorite team compared to Feyenoord, but I think Feyenoord still has a chance to win too. Interesting to look forward to, whether AS Roma again managed to eliminate Feyenoord or will fail at this moment.
1865  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: December 18, 2023, 03:59:46 PM
I'm still waiting to see what the SPL clubs will do in this transfer window. As we know they made a big breakthrough by recruiting many star players who had to spend their money in fantastic amounts. Not only in transfer fees but also it concerns the salaries that players get with them. But it paid off when their league became more popular now, and I'm sure many of us started to highlight the SPL after many European players came here, yes one of them is me.
SPL clubs will certainly continue to look for new star players from Europe and that will not stop before their target is completed. The Saudi League has a long-term project and one of its big investments is in football and that is why they are so enthusiastic about introducing their country through football. Now the arrival of the previous star players has made the Saudi league famous and maybe if they continue to bring in players who can increase exposure in the future then they will not hesitate to bring him in.

Al-Hilal, Al-Nassr, Al-Ittihad, and Al-Ahli are the 4 giant teams in the Saudi league and they are definitely already preparing plans to recruit star players in January. Players from the EPL are still of top interest to Saudi league clubs and can't wait to see those star players leave to earn bigger wages.

But I think, for the January transfer window, it looks like the top European players will still stay in their teams at least until the end of the season. Therefore, I personally not so sure that the big SPL teams will bring in top players in the January transfer window and ya, then their transfers will be maximized for the new season or next season later.

But yes, even though the SPL elite teams will still be able to bring in top players but ya, I believe the players they bring in will only happen to old players. At least it has entered retirement age but, because the SPL elite teams still ready to pay dearly then ya, the old players will be willing to keep playing even though their age is no longer prime.
1866  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 18, 2023, 03:51:06 PM

Finally Girona slipped from the top number 1 position.  And Real Madrid occupied the first position of the points table.  But so far Real Madrid is only 1 point ahead of Girona.  Meanwhile, Girona has a match against Deportivo Alaves tomorrow. In this match, Girona is much stronger than their opponents, so Girona can win this match by a good goal margin, so they can move past Real Madrid to the 1st position again. But if Girona unfortunately lose a match they will be more points behind Real Madrid which is why I don't think they will be able to overtake Real Madrid later on.

Girona beat Barcelona last week and surprised everyone. I think it's a great achievement to beat Brcelona 4-2 away. They got a good result from a very tough test. On the other hand, Alaves are one of the weakest teams in the league. Also, they have had very inconsistent results in recent weeks. I expect Girona to get a comfortable win tonight. Real Madrid won this week and moved to the top of the league. But I think Girona are very close to taking it back.

Lol, why do you say Girona slipped even though in reality, Girona will just play this week's match in a few hours. Unless, if Girona has played a match in this Week 17 and then Girona loses, then you could say Girona slipped. Anyway, the match in Week 17 also in fact that Girona will play at home and of course, Girona will still have a chance to win by beating Alaves in today match.

After all, previously Girona played away against Barcelona but in reality, Girona managed to win with a very good score of 2-4. Therefore, of course Girona at this moment has above average quality and yes, with good quality like that then ya, I personally cannot underestimate Girona this season because in fact Girona is better than Barcelana at this moment too.
1867  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 18, 2023, 03:25:03 PM
I'm interested in the match between Napoli and Barcelona. I think it's hard to say which team will pass this round. Napoli are far from last season's performance but they are still a very good team. Other than that, I think the other matches have favorite teams. Bayern Munich, Manchester City, Real Madrid, Borussia Dortmund are the favorites. The excitement in the Champions League will be more in the next round. Of course it is a bit early to talk about it but I don't expect too many surprises in this round.
Picking interest in watching Barcelona advances to the next phase. UCL round of 16 is out. The fixtures I'm seeing doesn't really pull any threat because we can easily predict the club's that come out winners and we might also predict the club. Napoli vs Barcelona is the tough fixtures in the UCL round of 16 this season. The Blaugrana are not in good shape this season but can they be able to maintain good game balance against Napoli. Xavi Hernandez doesn't have the capacity to win matches but his players can make him believe in the possible and reverse their direction to winning matches.

Regarding the match between Napoli v Barcelona, if they don't succeed in improving their quality and they will still play like they are now. So ya, at least they have quality which is probably quite balanced because after all, Napoli and Barcelona are also equally unstable in the domestic league this moment. Therefore, it seems like the match will have fairly balanced statistics and thus, both teams will have an equal chance of winning too.

However, if they manage to overcome the problems and can recover for this match later, then it looks like Barcelona will have a better chance of winning and qualifying for the quarter-finals. Because after all, Napoli basically have a new coach who of course needs time to get the right chemistry. Meanwhile for Barcelona, of course we know that Xavi also has at least good enough qualities to improve Barcelona's performance. Therefore, I think maybe Barcelona has a better chance than Napoli in this phase.
1868  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 18, 2023, 03:13:56 PM
West ham defeated Wolverhampton with 3 goals to add 3 points to their tally.Wolverhampton played better than West Ham despite being away.They struggled to get to the end and this led them to defeat.
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2 goals manage made by Kudus in the first half, seemed to make getting more pressure to Wolves. But ya, indeed, even though Wolves played away and got such great pressure . But in fact, Wolves can still play well at least as evidenced by the statistical records they get in this match, at least it can be assumed that the match runs quite balanced.

But ya, with fairly balanced statistics like this, I guess Wolves should be able to minimize defeat by making goals too in this match . But in fact,Wolves really didn't manage to score a goal in this match and in the end Wolves lose big with a score of 3-0 . At least, with results like this making Wolves still unsuccessful to improve the performance and results they play in away matches so far this season.
1869  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 18, 2023, 02:56:17 PM
Marseille defeated bottom of the league Clermont at home and took the 3 points.Marseille won the match with goals in the first half and increased their points to 26.Neither team had many scoring positions in the match, but Marseille made better use of the positions they found.
The 2 in-form and unbeaten teams of the league faced each other.Lille hosted PSG at home.While the match ended in a 1-1 draw, I must first of all say that I think it was a good result for both teams.Although PSG was the away side, Lille was lucky to draw with Jonathan David's goal in the last minutes of the second half.The match was worse than I expected.We saw that both teams had difficulties in creating positions and I think Lille played better as the home side.

Maybe, Lille look like have a better statistical record than PSG in this match but unfortunately, even though Lille look like better statistics, but Lille almost lost. Yes indeed, I also realized that Lille could improve the quality of their performance this match after conceding first by Mbappe in the 66th minute. Therefore, Lille was only able to score a goal in the last minutes of the match and I think, a result like this cannot be said that Lille better than PSG.

But yes, at least this draw is still a good result for PSG because yes, after all PSG is still strong at the top of the Ligue 1 standings. Therefore, I sure it will still be difficult for the teams below PSG to overtook PSG at the top of the standings. Because, while PSG and Lille only ended the match with a draw, but the teams in positions 2 and 3 also lost. So of course, it will be difficult for them to pose a threat to PSG at the top of the standings.
1870  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 18, 2023, 02:42:52 PM
But at least Union Berlin still have fewer matches than other teams so they still have good savings for the next match.

They still have to play against Bayern Munich....

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3 teams are currently in the relegation zone. Darmstadt, Mainz and Köln. All three teams have the opportunity to leave the relegation zone. And all three teams will play against other teams that have not impressed in the last games. Darmstadt and Mainz will play against Hoffenheim and Dortmund. And if one look at the performance of the last few games, it was not impressive. Perhaps we will see a few surprises at the last matchday of the year.


In fact, Mainz will play away against Dortmund and also, Darmstadt will play away against Hoffenheim. So ya, although Dortmund and Hoffenheim in the last few matches have not been impressive result but still, Dortmund and Hoffenheim have better quality when compared to Mainz and Darmstadt who are in the relegation zone this moment.

After all, for Dortmund and Hoffenheim playing at home against the relegation zone team of course, will be a great opportunity for Dortmund and Hoffenheim to get full points for the last match in the first half of this season . So yes, I guess it is not right if you consider teams like Mainz and Darmstadt will be able to win easily against teams in the top 7. LOL
1871  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 18, 2023, 02:33:44 PM
Villarreal team performance was not good, Villarreal team lost by a wide margin while fighting against Real Madrid. Most of the time in this match Real Madrid was in control, I can say from the equation that 60% of the ball was in favor of Real Madrid and the remaining 40% of the ball was in favor of Villarreal team. And Real Madrid attacked the goal post the most and here too there is a wide gap between the two teams. Real Madrid had 22 shots on goal and Villarreal had 3. So there was a huge difference between the two teams on the field of play.

It's clear Villarreal lost to Real Madrid. Madrid controlled the game based on the numbers. Real Madrid's 60% possession figures reveal the story of the encounter. Villarreal's performance has been weak lately, unlike under Unai Emery. Losing to Madrid reinforces that narrative. Madrid's temporary rise to the top shows their ability to exploit Villarreal's shortcomings. Girona is also on my radar. The standings could change again in their next game

At least, the success of Real Madrid winning with a score like 4-1, is a result that I cannot believe before match sterted because ya, I think Real Madrid will still win but maybe it only have a difference of 2 goals. But ya, what happened in this match was that Real Madrid managed to win by a difference of 3 goals and yes, of course it was a very good result for Real Madrid. Because after all, Girona is currently competing with Real Madrid at the top of the table, in fact Girona has good productivity too.

But about Villarreal, it seems that this season is the worst season for Villarreal. Because ya, at least in the last few seasons at least Villarreal has always been in a better position than Valencia. But at this moment, Villarreal is only in 14th place and has only 4 wins, 4 draws and 9 losses from 17 matches played so far this season in La Liga.
1872  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 18, 2023, 02:22:15 PM
Today Atalanta will play against Salernitana at home. If they win, they can move one point above Roma in the standings. I think that this game will be easy for Atalanta, because Salernitana is in last place and usually do not score away.

Yes indeed, the results on paper will certainly belong to Atalanta who will win in this match. Because after all, Atalanta plays at home against a team that is at the bottom of the current Serie A standings and of course, because Salernitana is only at the bottom of the standings then ya, Salernitana not have a good record for home and away matches so far this season.

So yes, at least with these factors, it looks like win result is certain to be obtained by Atalanta. Because ya, playing against a team that is in a bottom position in the standings, then of course it will be a very good chance for Atalanta of course to get full points. Because anyway, so far this season at least Atalanta still has a good record of results for home matches, so I personally will not doubt it.
1873  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 18, 2023, 02:14:30 PM
However, Manchester United is the top Premier League team and they have quite a fierce rivalry with Liverpool so this draw is quite fair in my opinion.
And indeed the Manchester United players played quite disciplined in this match, especially their defense line which the Liverpool players were unable to penetrate so that no goals were scored in this match.
Jurgen Klopp was shocked to see the heavy defendlines from Manchester United. I blame Liverpool for drawing points with Manchester United, the Reds got solid spot to win but couldn't convert their chances to goals. Mere watching Luis Diaz overrated performance and couldn't net a goal, instead he was dribbling and failed to pass the ball to his teammates. A goal-less draw we watched. Manchester United was probably not able to withstand the pressure from Liverpool at Anfield. They just got lucky, and this might not happen next time.

I think Manchester United are not just lucky because after all, the reality is that Manchester United only focus on playing defense in this match. Therefore, with the focus made by Manchester United only to play defense then yes, Manchester United managed not to lose this match because of the success of the tactics and strategies they applied.

But for the results that Liverpool got then yes, I think this draw is a bad result and may also be a pretty disappointing result. How not, Liverpool had very good dominance in this match but yes, Liverpool failed to score in this match and the match only ended in a draw and also without a goal.
1874  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 17, 2023, 07:22:05 PM
Looks like Frankfurt hasnt got any chance in Leverkusen today with getting 3 Goals , at least my bet was right on this game.
The bet on Freiburg was also right and Bayern Munich is leading already 1 goal from Kane since the 2 Min.
If Bayern Munich will win that game against Stuttgart i really cant complain about my bets this weekend.

Congratulations on your winning bet, at least I also picked Bayer Leverkusen but unfortunately, I put it in a parlay bet and I failed because I involved Liverpool as well. But with that reason, then I made another parlay bet and this time I also picked Bayern Munich and ya, I don't care if it will work out or still fail because I think it's just luck.

But, regarding their points in the Bundesliga standings then ya, it is at least clear that Bayern Munich still have to improve their quality. Because after all,at least at this moment Bayern Munich has also found it difficult to overtake Bayer Leverkusen. Therefore, Bayern Munich must also maintain its consistency of course, in order to still have a chance to be able to compete with Bayer Leverkusen in the race for the Bundesliga title this season.
1875  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 17, 2023, 06:56:42 PM
I won't underestimate Villareal against Real Madrid today because they always found a way to score against them and produce great results and taking points so I think betting on Villareal to score might be a good decision. I can also see them scoring in both halves with a total of 6.2 odds which is super fine especially for a team that always scores against Real Madrid when they face each other. A minus on this one would be that Villareal is not having a great season at all.

Yes indeed, I also think so at least betting asian handicap for Villarreal +1.5 maybe still a good option too. Because after all, even though Villarreal has not had good results so far this season but yes, the reality is that in their head to head, Real Madrid is not always easy to beat Villarreal.

But with that consideration too, then at least it makes me doubtful, because I'm not so sure Real Madrid will be able to win easily in this match. But from several Villarreal matches so far this season, sometimes Villarreal can also lose with a big score. But ya, at least I try to stay focused on Real Madrid who are behind Girona at this moment and yes, with that factor it makes me a little confident to keep going with Real Madrid -1.5.
1876  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 17, 2023, 06:34:32 PM
Liverpool vs Man U game reminded me of Arsenal vs Brighton game in the first half... Liverpool had a lot of shots but couldn't score a single goal... The game will be over soon, and I didn't expect the score to be 0-0... I hope there will be a goal in the last minutes...

34 goal attempts, 8 shots on goal and 12 corner kicks for Liverpool in this match, but Liverpool failed to make a goal in this match, and Liverpool had to accept a draw in this match with a score of 0-0. I think, although Liverpool still got 1 point in this match but still, this draw is not good for Liverpool in the Premier League standings.

Because yes, with this draw it makes Liverpool currently in 2nd place with the same points as Aston Villa with 38 points, and they have a 1 point gap with Arsenal. The reason I say this is a bad result is because Liverpool played at home and also, Liverpool had very good dominance in this match and ya, at least at this moment Manchester United did not have a good performance too. Therefore, on paper Liverpool should be able to beat Manchester United but yes, the final result in this match is only a goalless draw and I think this result is quite disappointing.
1877  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Portuguese League - Liga Portugal 2023/24 on: December 17, 2023, 06:16:32 PM
Braga Vs Benfica
Braga lost to Napoli in midweek but will be looking to bounce back with a win at home to Benfica today. Meanwhile Benfica suffered disappointing draws at the hands of SC Farense and Moreirense in the domestic league which saw them drop off the top of the table. Benfica have lost three of the previous four meetings between the two teams. Today's match is going to be very exciting as both the teams have a point gap of 1 in the league table and are aiming for the top spot in the league. I think today's match could be a high-scoring draw.

Both teams haven't performed well in Europe, that can be said especially about Benfica. But at least both got in Europa league playoffs. My expectation that Benfica won't take 3 points today - it may be draw or or Braga win. As you said, Benfica in recent meetings had problems with Braga and in general this season they're not looking confident. I'm not talking about Europe, even in Portugal they're struggling with weak opponents. They don't play that bad, but wasting so many moments.
And tomorrow round will end with cherry on top - Sporting vs Porto. Difficult to predict something here, so, probably I will go with BTTS. Porto should be in great mood after beating Shakhtar and getting into CL playoffs.

Thus, this week will be a very interesting week, because the four top ranked teams will face off and also, they still have a close points gap. But indeed, I also agree that the match between Braga v Benfica looks like any result can still happen. Although yes, at least Braga has better results compared to Benfica at this moment because after all, at least Braga has better productivity compared to Benfica this moment.

But despite this, the reality is that based on the current odds, at least Benfica is still quite the favorite. Therefore, I say that any result can happen in this match, and Braga cannot completely guarantee that they will win this match.
1878  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 17, 2023, 05:56:27 PM
Napoli have fallen far behind so it will probably not be possible for them to get back into a good position again this time.  The way Inter are playing makes it much easier for them to become champions.  Inter are ahead of the other teams on points, so it will be very challenging for the other teams to overtake them.  Napoli didn't focus on their performance early on which is why they are in the situation they are now.  So I can't consider Napoli as likely to do anything good ever
Now Napoli is also starting to be chased by other teams such as Fiorentina after the Fiorentina team won in their home match today and Napoli's own number of points is also the same as Fiorentina. So Napoli are now really feeling the pressure to maintain their position in the top four of the standings and must be able to do something to stay in that position during this season. Because this season it will be very difficult for Napoli to get a trophy like they got last season, but at least Napoli can get a top four position so they can enter the UCL competition again next season.

Yes indeed, I believe there seems to be no more chance for Napoli to be able to defend the Scudetto because yes, with Napoli's current situation that is not entirely good. Moreover, it seems that Napoli's new coach is also not entirely appropriate to overcome the problems experienced by Napoli at this time. Therefore, it will certainly take time for Mazzarri to be able to provide a good performance for Napoli and it is unlikely to happen quickly either.

Therefore, because other teams besides Inter are still difficult to maintain a good trend then yes, at least at this moment Inter have a good chance of getting the Scudetto. Perhaps, it's too soon to predict the teams that will win the trophy as there is still the next half of the season. But, for now it seems pretty clear and I recognize Inter have been the best in Serie A so far this season.
1879  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 17, 2023, 05:42:13 PM
Spain became the country that qualified the most teams to the knockout phase. Barcelona, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid and Real Sociedad they all won the group. Only Sevilla failed to qualify. While for Germany and Italy only 3 each then England 2. Of course with the condition of Niki the chances of Spanish clubs winning the UCL this season are quite large, but there are many strong teams in this knockout phase. I'm waiting for the knockout phase draw, hopefully there will be a game with a League team or a final too early.

I don’t wish for the final to come too early as it happened last season when the match between Real Madrid and Manchester City was played at the semifinals matchup. It was very obvious that any team that won between those two in the semifinals will be the champions league winners and that was what happened after Manchester City eliminated Real Madrid from the semifinal. I can’t say for now which league teams will make it to the final just yet. The elimination stage draws will decide more on which team would make it far in this competition before getting to the final stage of the competition.

Even though Spain has the most teams that have qualified for the Champions League knockout phase but ya, this factor still won't guarantee that the Spanish team will get the trophy. After all, of that four teams, the only one who really has a chance to go further is Real Madrid because yes, the other three teams don't have as good a chance as Real Madrid to go further at this moment.

After all, even though Germany and England only have a few teams in this knockout phase, but in reality teams like Manchester City, Arsenal, Bayern Munich also have good quality and ya, at least there is still Inter there too. Therefore, even though Spain has more teams in this knockout phase but still, not all Spanish teams have a good chance.
1880  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 17, 2023, 05:21:36 PM

Top fourth teams position have good result for this week except Manchester City, there are have Arsenal won against Brighton Albion and Aston Villa keep in the winning trend. Left Liverpool match will follow the good result for defeating Manchester United or possibility follow not good result achievement like Man City.

It's hard to accept that Manchester City dropped points against weaker opponents. They shouldn't be losing points in these types of games, especially considering the quality of their squad. City is going through a challenging period, but sometimes things can turn around unexpectedly. They have to bounce back, as other contenders maintaining their winning streaks.

If Manchester City fail to recover quickly then yes, it is very possible for Manchester City to get out of the top four. But indeed, last season Manchester City also had several bad results, but at least last season Manchester City's competing teams were not consistent enough like this moment.

Of course, it is different from what happened at this moment, because at this moment it is not only about Arsenal and Liverpool who managed to compete in positions 1 and 2. Because after all, in fact there is Aston Villa which is also very impressive at this moment. Therefore, it looks like it will be difficult for Manchester City to recover quickly and if that happens, then Manchester City maybe no longer succeed in competing strongly in the title race this season.
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