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1861  Economy / Speculation / Re: People are panic buying right now! on: August 14, 2021, 06:11:31 PM
People are so excited about the prospect that bitcoin is bringing up these days. Especially with the prediction that bitcoin could rise to $100,000 over the next decade. Hence the reason why people are competing to invest in Cryptocurrencies. Because when the price of bitcoin soars, people who have coins are certainly happy, on the other hand, when the price goes down, not a few people see it as an opportunity or a loss.
some peoplr aware that the price of bitcoin could go up $50,000 when bitcoin price was only $500 including me.
but cant resist to go all in sell them all at $10,000 , and guess what..  we bought them all again at $20,000 but the price goes down to as low as $3k back in early 2020 , mathematically we are still in profit but shit happened and cant buy more when it was dropped to $3k , in the end situation forced to cut the lossess on $5k..

we can only watching now no matter it is a FOMO or whatever.. bitcoin will always worth to buy in any price if you are a believer.
1862  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The more popular Bitcoin is, the more valuable it is? on: August 14, 2021, 05:56:53 PM

Do you think Bitcoin will be devalued in the future?

Right now, no one can really tell the actual value of bitcoin. It’s too early. However, there are predictions in the crypto-finance space that the value of bitcoin could reach over $100,000 to as much as one million dollars per BTC in the future. Only a couple of days ago, bitcoin made a comeback that has taken it up more than 50% from recent lows. The future is bright, let's keep our fingers crossed.

If the Bitcoin value falls by 10,000 or 20000$ , even  then it doesn't mean that the Bitcoin is devalued. In the long terms the Bitcoin will always be high in the prices. We should not be worried about the dump which Bitcoin takes while making the new all times high.

Another thing that what should be the true value of Bitcoin is no one can tell it may be $1000000 or even more.
Value isnt really what true bitcoiners looking though, in the long term to change the financial system is what true bitcoiners looking for.
thats the biggest mistake from those people who looking for short term profit but get demolished in the end due lack of awareness that bitcoin and any other cryptocurrencies is wild and volatile.
popularity bring stronger ecosystem into bitcoin space sometimes but thesedays it looks unclear due unclear covid 19 outbreak that makes most business  stalled and the ecosystem itself looks not much growing with its high popularity.
1863  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: August 14, 2021, 05:27:31 PM
Inter think that the best replacement for Romelu Lukaku is the 27-year-old Lazio forward Joaquin Correa. Lazio bought him from Sevilla for €15m. He got 11 goals and 6 assists in 38 games in total in the last season.

Maybe he won't perform as good as Lukaku but I think he can contribute to the team nicely.
Thats a huge profit for them though Grin but will he could bring an achievements like lukaku did? im prrtty sure he will not, different quality.
they should bring another top class striker.. unless of course it is pure for the sake of business.
i just cant understand on how inter management works.. a successful season is like replaced with unclear future by selling key players.
1864  Economy / Economics / Re: Why would people ever use bitcoin if its expected to always go up? on: August 13, 2021, 05:39:57 PM
People use their Bitcoin in different ways, some see it as an asset more than using it as a currency but the general consensus of bitcoin is never the price to always appreciate and the last time I check no currency, asset or commodity whatsoever will ever surge in price. Besides, the volatile nature of the market won't all that.

Each of us has their own kind of reasons why they keep on using their bitcoin in their transactions rather keep it on hold for a long term and that's fair enough because we don't know their reason. But for me in my case I keep on using my crypto asset even I say that it is expected to go up because it has a more value what I mean is using a single token but with a huge market value is enough to transact and sometimes we may feel satisfied whenever we take gained from our hardships.
well making a transaction using crypto is something especially bitcoin,  back in the days when i used to buy a cdkey.. i often spent more than 0.1 bitcoin in daily basis,  guess its really fun to look back and compare with the current price,  damn yeah $4,600 daily and overall 15 days consecutively equals to around $70,000!

crazy but a fun way tho, given the fact that there is a lot of altcoins with much less transaction fees, i swithched to altcoins as a payment crypto currency.
1865  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: August 13, 2021, 05:26:28 PM
^  Yup.  And Brentford is playing at home in front of their supporters.  I think Brentford are staying up and could over perform this season.  They’ve been using the money ball approach in building their squad and it has worked so far.  Let’s see if it gets some success in the EPL.

What are you guys betting at?  I’m looking at Chelsea and over 2.5 goals combo at 1.85, Everton to win at 2.01 and Liverpool to score in both halves at 1.83... 
looks good but dont forget crystal palace always makes chelsea struggling. just look at thr head to head between them, i always shaking to watch this match.. i dont know why. it is just my feeling though that thr match could ended with a draw,  over 2.5 goals are enough.

i might try for the over 2.5 goals for 5 out of 10 premier league matches randomly..
1866  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will everyone still believe in Elon Musk? on: August 12, 2021, 11:38:56 PM
I don't believe in Elon Musk's performance at all, which he says can improve bitcoin's performance and we all know that he is only looking for popularity like what he tweeted on his twitter account.I think a lot of people no longer believe in him because he is only looking for personal gain for himself and his company, maybe a one-sided.factor that makes many people no longer trust him

You should consider that he isn't dependent on any more popularity. I doubt that is what makes him do whatever he did over the last couple of months. He doesn't lack money nor does he lack popularity. Maybe he is just extremely interested in cryptocurrencies as he is also the founder of a finance-related company aka PayPal. It isn't as if he had no clue at all about what he is talking. He does have a weird way to interact with the community, but I believe it is just the way he is.
lol couldnt agree more with you.

his cool-weird-annoying tweets shaking the cryptocurrency world for a while until those people who taking 100% of elon's tweet as a serious advice thinking and experience a real big shakes on how volatile cryptocurrency it is .. to suffer & blaming elon for a serious financial damage on its lost but silent on its big profit.
thats freakin darkside of human, elon did nothing but an enthusiastic about crypto and he is a rich guy with huge influence.
1867  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: August 12, 2021, 10:59:07 PM
Judging from the history of the match I am very sure they will both score goals, especially in the last match Bayern Munich lost to Gladbach.

My Prediction For This Match Bayern Munich Will Win and Both Teams Will Score More Than 2 Goals
I really dont know how to bet on this opening game , as i watched a lot of friendly matches of both teams in the last weeks.
About the playing and all i would say that Gladbach has the chance to win this game and it would be give them boost for the coming games.
Other side Bayern Munich should be also win as they won not mutch on there friendly games.
I bet a 2 : 1 for Gladbach vs Bayern Munich .

I think there is a friendly match between Gladbach Vs Munich on purpose to confuse those who bet on the official Bundesliga match, Bayern Munich will win, because most bettors will choose Gladbach based on their last match in a friendly match.

I've Seen The Asian Handicap, And Gladbach Was Given +1.25, Be Careful, This Match Will Be Different 2 Goals And A Win For Munich.
nothing is sure in footbal,  note that.
even if bookies giving that line away.. i wont put a 100% prediction to that. could be a goal galore and i indeed prefer to go for under and over goals..
but still, a live betting are the most convenience one for me.

the last friendly match between the two cant be a reference to choose which one going to win the match especially if you look at how both clubs were using the second and or third squad.
1868  Economy / Speculation / Re: People are panic buying right now! on: August 12, 2021, 09:01:24 PM
If this is true, we are probably going to see a lot of people that will come to this forum and rant about the dump in prices and how they regret buying at X price point because they're the people that OP here is talking about. I hope that they're not panic sellers too because if a rug pull happens, shit will hit the fan for the market and for those panic buyers.
that is very normal to witness the ups and downs of investor / trader confidence especially when it comes to a huge world sentiment..
facebook to accept crypto/create their own cryptocurrency for instance > the market reacted well towards greenline,
and now amazon planning to accept bitcoin / crypto by the end this year ...a huge boosting! market reacted very well so far and the bull run is justt get started before its going to have a quite big correction, a hard one.

mostly, a newcomer didint see this coming,  they didnt anticipated it and the panic buying are inevitable.
1869  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: August 12, 2021, 08:45:02 PM
Maybe Barcelona wouldn't be so bad without Messi, but Messi is a player who can give something different to Barcelona's match. There is a much greater passion for watching the game when we see him involved in every Barcelona match and now I don't know if it will be very boring or not. For sure, Barcelona is a team and not just one player. It is impossible to expect him to be present all the time because if not this year then a few years from now Messi will also retire from the world of football as an active player.
I guess the last years of Messi was just a merchandise situation. Think about it, dude was getting 70 million at the peak level, 70 million! You could spend 200 million and get 2 amazing players which will be just 3 years worth of salary for Messi, and I mean like Haaland+Kane together for just 3-4 years of Messi salary, and you can pay them combined 30 million as well.

This team has managed to actually save themselves sooooo much money that eventually they will be doing insanely better, unbelievably better, everyone will be shocked how awesome Barcelona will be in the next decade, they will have the chance to dominate European football again with all the money they will save from this deal. Messi is great and all, but I think he was the only reason the team was doing horrible, sure financial management wasn't good neither but Messi was the main cause of that.
or... to watch how barcelona would become the next ac milan in their trophy-less decades.

its been talked everywhere that the barcelona board decision thesedays are in wrong way and a fatal one.
letting a potential young player and replaced with a mature player, you know which player it is...
and seeing someone talking about how they are going to build young squad full of potential.. that is far away from the facts, no matter how their club president are now different, thats still looks doing the same mistakes now.
1870  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think will happen to Bitcoin in 100 years? on: August 12, 2021, 05:39:48 PM
There are only two things that bitcoin could be in 100 years, first is bitcoin can be already accepted all over the world and all of the people already knows about cryptocurrency or a dead. Hoping that the first one will happen in the future, even though we know that we cannot reach that 100 years in the future,  I am still hoping that the next generation will explore cryptocurrency as well.
nobody will ever know..

speculative one is allowed though but giving a lot of possibility...  a lot of if's cand be simulated.
1. if internet goes down completely around the world for long time... bitcoin wont be exist, or if internet being replaced by a new thing..

2. if there is another invention more than bitcoin.

and many more if's in combination ... its really a hard guessing / prediction.

i wont say anything but bitcoin still has a lot of potential to grow and a lot of possibility for bitcoin to disappear too at once.
1871  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: August 12, 2021, 05:21:24 PM
Yes now that it is confirmed, the only thing we can be watching out for are the big Champions League games. I doubt a lot of people will watch whole Ligue 1 games because Messi is there. At least I don't and I also didn't because of Mbappe or Neymar. I will follow the top scorer list and maybe some summaries of the games just to see in the highlights how Messi is doing. What's actually interesting are the Champions League games. PSG vs. Barcelona, or PSG vs. Manchester City! That's what I am hoping for. Oh, and of course PSG vs. Juventus, Messi vs. Ronaldo! Wink
Juventus will be beaten by PSG if they have to face with each other. I don't underestimate the defenders of Juventus but PSG are very strong and their players are younger.

PSG vs Manchester City is a more balanced pair and I can not choose what team will win. It depends on their form around that match and player resources they have for it. Their players have same quality level.

PSG and Manchester City will be two biggest candidates in Champions League 2021 - 2022 from what they got from the transfers in this summer. PSG looks to have a wiser transfer strategy than Manchester City. Wilnandum, Ramos, Messi, they got all of them as free transfers. I feel PSG are repeating what Juventus did years ago with Pirlo, Pogba, etc.
A crazy squad like manchester city will always become a favorite to win any trophy and thats a nice line to get some money for bookies,  i wont deny that but for those who put a bet on title race.. well terrible odds waiting for you on manchester city to win the premier league and or the champions league.

i always wish a blackhorse like leicester city or aston villa could grab that prrstigious trophy and shocks everyone.
aston villa to win the prem this season? worth a try!
1872  Economy / Economics / Re: If you can get paid through cryptocurrency, do you still choose fiat currency? on: August 11, 2021, 06:17:17 PM
In my country, it is possible to pay utility bills and do shopping in supermarkets using cryptocurrency (although not directly, first you need to convert your BTC to gift cards). But even here, some of the payments are not possible in cryptocurrency, such as rent and housemaid salary. For these we need fiat cash. In case I receive 100% of my salary in Bitcoin, then I need to convert at least some of it to fiat in order to pay these bills. And in my case, a large part of my portfolio is in BTC and therefore I will not prefer to receive anymore amount in cryptocurrency.
of course you guys can never YET live without fiat, at least for now.. as the mass adoption wont takeover in few days, it takes decades and we are working on it day by day, building a strong huge ecosystem.
if u live in a solid crypto environtment you might could do this.
using crypto as a whole in our daily activities, but not today.

crypto still widely known as an asset rather than a money though.
you cant buy bread with crypto anywhere anytime for your daily needs,  theres might one but not much.
the point is thst the work are in progress.
1873  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: August 11, 2021, 05:52:39 PM
Mess is said to be taking the Jersey number 30, seems weird but it's quite unique since he doesn't have to strip any current player of their's.
I think it’s not weird at all. Messi wore 30 number jersey in his Barcelona debut and later on, wore 19. Since the current one in PSG is taken by Neymar, it would be weird if Messi would have taken that number. This is fine and it should not be matter at all.
Number 10 = Neymar
Number 19 = Sarabia
Number 30 = Messi, indeed he didn't take the shirt number of any of his teammates which is a good message for them that we are equal. That number marks his debut in Barca so it will marks also his debut with PSG and his retirement later?
BTW, Messi number 30 shirts are no more in PSG store lol!
With €25-158 for a shirt, I think PSG will cover the cost of Messi soon Tongue
Code:
(PSG store) Hey PSG Fans! Due to high demand, we are quickly selling out of Lionel Messi jerseys. We expect to have additional jerseys available on the site for pre-order, with October ship dates soon.

Exactly my point, Messi was majorly recognised with the number 19 and 10, I think he could have humbly requested it from either players and I think one of them could have even be willing to let him have the number, but I guess it just doesn't matter with Leo, that's an iota of the selflessness they can expect of him.
except for if his teammates volunteerly offers that sacred number 10. he might rejected it as a supportive gesture especially for neymar,  i believe he've been offered that.
having reporterdly rejected Neymar's kind , its just like a strange shirt number but quite historic for youngster messi, ronaldinho himself wears that number 30 shirt.
damn this little thing been talked around the world.
ligue 1 must  much more watched next season, including me
1874  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 10, 2021, 04:36:17 PM
Messi is now in Paris, ending all speculation. Messi is signing a two-year contract with this French club. His salary is 35m euros per year. We've seen the Barcelona president's drama in the last few days. They were not interested in keeping Messi in the team. So they didn't sell Griezmann, and added two new strikers, Aguero and Depay. If they wanted to keep Messi in the team, Barca management would have increased the strength of the defense without increasing the strength of their forwards.

PSG got another legend in their squad. Looking forward to seeing what the trio of Neymar Mbappe and Messi will look like. PSG will undoubtedly win the Ligue 1 title. However, their main target is to win the Champions League title. Messi wants another Champions League title. Hopefully PSG will be able to bring home the title with the help of this squad.
a sky high hopes sometimes make you failed even more earlier than before, the ambition of psg to win the champions league title are indeed backed with lots of cash.
i just cant understand how the fuck that financial fair play shit works lol.
this psg squad are monster.. while other clubs struggling to manage the messed up financial situation, this oil club splashing 35m a year as salary for a single player,  what a transfer... what a confusing UEFA.
1875  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: August 10, 2021, 04:12:55 PM
Romelu Lukaku was indeed very bright when playing in Serie A with Inter Milan which attracted Chelsea to bring him to Stamford bridge, but I am very sure Romelu Lukaku will shine with Chelsea this season considering he has been able to adapt in the English Premier League like in Manchester United in the last few seasons, especially under the direction of Thomas Tuchel, was able to mix the Chelsea squad well. I firmly believe that Romelu Lukaku will be even crazier this season in the West London club
Lukaku will create pressure on central defenders and even he does not score goal, he usually has good contributions to the team. With Lukaku, wing backs will have more space to play because opponents will assign two defenders to follow him in matches.

The transfer of Lukaku creates domino effect: Tammy Abraham will move to Roma. Tammy Abraham: Roma agree £34m deal to sign Chelsea striker


Tammy will help Roma and Mourinho have a more energetic striker than Dzeko and he will compete with Mayoral to become a main striker of Roma. Defenders in Serie A are not speedy so Tammy at least will have one advantage in Serie A with his pace.
Guess what, chelsea will buy him back later in few years with 130m as a fee,  typical chelsea..  damn i hate this cycle.

i know this gonna happen. but i can still understand, it is a cost of making a better player, he will try to prove chelsea wrong but thats actually how football work and how chelsea board works, i can really understand. it is still worth. part of the strategy.. i guess..
unless if chelsea selling mason mount then i and every chelsea fan must be in anger.
normal transfer.
1876  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 08, 2021, 03:49:43 PM

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1424022684346818562

Imagine being an Inter Milan fan during this transfer window lol
Source from him always true and accurate about player transfer because Fabrizio Romano was an Italian journalist, almost his tweet always true and 100% is happening, when Manchester United success got Jordan Sacho and Lionel Messi left Barcelona. Just waiting with Chelsea official announcement about Lukaku and waiting with how much value transfer for this player.

I’d wait for confirmation from both the club and the player.  The deal is prolly really close to happening but saying it’s ‘confirmed’, dunno about that.  It looks like that journo just trying to be first to break the news even though he’s not 100% sure yet.
Yup, its last week he himself saying that lukaku untouchable. but now its nearly confirmed, he said...

well if this transfer didnt happened then his records to become the number one trusted source would get scratched.
im not really agree to bring lukaku back and with 100m+ as a transfer fee .. better wait for haaland ,damn abramovich come on.
1877  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is Bitcoin in the highest level of trust? on: August 08, 2021, 12:43:45 PM
well the outbreak wake them up on how banks actually works, just like the online shopping wake the traditional trade up to follow the online shop trend due outbreak circumstance.
circumstances thats the bottom line, banks could went tragically in bankrupt when there is no money in circulation but people getting withdraw the money from them continuously yeah no wonder they are now offering you lots of loans option.
back to the topic,  the trust itself i believe would be there as long as bitcoin price in current price position, once the normal economy is back and lots of non real bitcoin enthusiast pull their money over and the price got crashed, guess is there a strong trust like today? i doubt that so.
1878  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bullish News!!! on: August 08, 2021, 05:47:08 AM
The news I can find from last month is the Google pay can now work with coinbase cards. I've not found anything on buying or selling crypto with cash/fiat via Google pay - but it could've just been activated in some parts.
well with that headline, anyone can make up a large story and spread around the internet in a few mins.

thats how the news and reporter making money out of two or three words.
expanding a story that actually true but adding some bullshit and eveyone believe that it is what it is. long term always bullish but not today, its swinging now and i bet we might get another hard correction even quite freefall in the coming weeks just like what other people thought when you do lots of analytics, beware... thos huge cash invested few months ago since the first quarter of 2021 are aquired at $27k in average, they should take some profit now and we as a small player might gt destroyed in secs.
1879  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 08, 2021, 05:36:56 AM
Guys I have rarely seen this thread growing by several pages within a single day. This seems to be record breaking since it is known that Messi is going to leave Barcelona Wink
because Messi is our friend, he is the man after Ronaldo. Both are already not young, but still, have glamor which can attract every club. Actually, Messi fits in the club which can make him stay in all time, I do not agree he going to PSG or ManCity, he will make dim another player, IMO, Messi is suitable going to AC Milan or MU, club which has history, but we can't be prevented him if want big cash.


source image ; goal.com
Yupp nobody can reject a huge cash on the table as human nature he have to prepare for the retirement day , except for totti..  reus.. both reject to replace loyalty with money.
rare case this thing to happen again thesedays.

club history cant do much to make someone interested to join in though, with the current world full of materialistic shit, isnt it?
1880  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why crypto (bitcoin) is better than traditional money? on: August 07, 2021, 03:49:26 PM
First of all there is a big different between crypto (or more accurately cryptocurrency in general) and bitcoin.
What you see in cryptocurrency market (ie. thousands of altcoins) is a hyped up penny stocks market where they sell vaporware to anyone who is willing to gamble on their low prices for a big pump to make a huge profit in the shortest amount of time possible.

Bitcoin on the other hand introduced a unique concept to the meaning of "money". A concept that always had unlimited supply, was controlled and printed by the government and was centralized suddenly got expanded. Now money can have limited supply, doesn't have to be inflationary, can be decentralized and censorship resistant, can be safe and fast.
I don't like comparing things in black and white so I won't say if bitcoin is better than fiat or not. Bitcoin is a good currency, it does what it was designed to do and that's the important thing.
+1
but bitcoin has triggered tons of innovation through altcoins which you cant deny that altcoin has a lot of potential to grow and make crypto as a mainstream currency besides bitcoin.

so yeah bitcoin are above all cryptocurrency and altcoins lay behind as an ecosystem support.
It doesnt need to explain the technical sides like no third party decentralized etc... the most huge benefit by using bitcoin as a form of money is NO TAXES Grin period.
simply as it. wanna debate this?

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