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18701  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 18, 2018, 04:58:45 AM
Of course r0ach is on to me now. I always feared this day would come.

You're not really qualified to be here. Are you?

Rosewater F... fits right in... just a bit sensitive, from time to time.
18702  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 16, 2018, 04:40:08 AM
Don't really care about that 2014 comparison.  Seen it on trading view and think it's crap.  Seriously, they are comparing over a year of price to just 3 months.  Sure you can compress/extend time frames to see about anything you want to see.   + Drkenergy has been wrong about 90% of the time.  Maybe most viewed but damn, if you traded on his advice you would be broke about now.



Another aspect that seems faulty of the 2014 / 2018 comparison is that it took nearly two years for bitcoin to run its bull market by late 2017..

the lead up to late 2013 had played out differently and seemingly spiking up faster in two periods in 2013.
18703  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 16, 2018, 04:20:55 AM
Actually, I started going to the gym a bit more recently, and I started to think that if ever I was homeless, a gym membership would be a good thing to attempt to maintain.

Bitcoiners taking over a gym near you!



How dare you doxx me like that?   Angry Angry
18704  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: April 14, 2018, 09:08:49 AM
This is a great idea - the merit thing. At the same time I am reading that it can be abused Huh. Posting Proofs of Identity/Authentication besides other useless posts alone can make a member's rank go up in no time and such posts are certainly not quality posts. I was even banned for 7 days once for spam. Learnt my lesson. I am not an intelligent person so my posts won't be worthy of any merit but now I am not so eager to move up the ranks anymore (hope I don't get demerited for this Grin).


Hahahahaha...

Lucky you.  You will be able to remain a full member forever, perhaps.   Wink
18705  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: April 13, 2018, 09:52:42 PM
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And I agree that sMerit awarding is very low. Only around 10% of generated sMerit has been awarded and in my stats posted yerterday we can see the effect that it has on slowing down progression (merit and activity based) vs the old system (activity based) on the new forum users. That is an issue that should probably be addressed, perhaps by means of adding a timeframe to give sMerit away.

What I was in disagreement with was the fact that we should "gradually weed out those who do not use their sMerits". That suggests a purge focused on people who don't award their sMerits. People should not be purged because of this, but rather a method created to incentivate sMerit distribution (more that the so much used "make quality posts" frase).

Apart from that, me included, I think that time needs to be set aside to find meritable posts by those that do have sMerit, and not just focus on posting.

I have merited your post DdmrDdmr because I agree with the general direction that you are going with it, and that you have explained your points fairly well.

My main point of agreement is the concept of incentivizing the spending of smerits; however, I have to quibble with any seemingly premature assessment of placing a timeline expiration or even suggesting that members have any obligation to go out and discover meritorious posts....

Maybe you are describing requirements that sources might have that would differ from regular members?  Sure, theymos has complete discretion regarding criteria to become a source or to maintain source status but it seems that sources do have more obligations to spend their merits because they will expire if not used in 30 days (at least according to theymos's description of the algorithm).  I would think that theymos is capable of getting some kind of handle regarding how much sources might be spending or spreading out their merits and whether he believes what they are doing is worthy of keeping their source status.. and even he may have some other criteria that he considers that are purely his subjective criteria rather than merit based for merit sources (if that makes any sense).

Regarding regular users, I really like the idea of something approaching complete discretion, and that may apply to a member's decision to never, ever, ever spend his/her smerits - but even within that context of nearly complete discretion about how or whether to use merits it seems likely that theymos has tools that he could use to incentivize the spending of individual smerits without ever really needing to employ decay... because in my thinking decay seems a step too far, and maybe even might be something that is considered after several other available tools are employed (including the tool of threatening smerit decay... hahahahhahaha, which he has already employed at least once).
18706  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 13, 2018, 01:34:14 PM
I can't see Trump starting a war with Syria, knowing the chain reaction it could cause and considering that Assad probably didn't do a tenth of what we are accusing him of. There must be something else at play.

It's the same proxy war shit that's been going on for the last 70 years...
Not quite. For the past several decades lefties have been at the wheel. This is the first time we are in charge.

Lefties like Dubya starting the Iraq war while all the pacifist right wingers were in the streets marching against it.  
It's not a matter of war or not war. War is a constant. It's a matter of motives, the politics that goes on along with it and competence.

The war in Syria is just a front. Russia is expanding their cheap LNG output via Gazprom to countries like China and Iran. Key pipelines run through parts of Syria. The U.S. doesn't like this expansion, as it directly competes with sales of LNG from the U.S., Qatar and Australia. The U.S. has levied sanctions against Russia in an attempt to thwart LNG construction contracts and slow down their expansion.  Needless to say, Russia is getting more and more irritated with U.S. foreign policy.

If you're at the other end of some pipelines the story might be a bit different.
Russia doesn't like pipelines from Qatar reaching eastern Europe and loosing its monopoly and its main trump card in negotiation with the EU. How is this for a theory???

But with a 23% increase 7d, I'm in such a good mood that all the mentioned above can stuck a damn pipe from where their gas is coming out Smiley))

Even if what you are saying is technically accurate to say that the very extreme of the low was $6,510.. and the current price is bounding up to $8,240, you are only at 21% at best, but I suppose if you look across all markets, you can likely stretch the percentages a couple more percent, but still even if I agree with your bullishness sentiment, I find it better to be a bit more conservative with these kinds of discussions, and 19% is about the maximum of reasonable, currently.... that would be from $6610 to $8180 ---- ish...

But I hear what you are saying, too... .. a week ago there was a lot of doom and gloom and sentiment was that the price was going down, and currently the sentiment seems to be up and the price pressure seems to be up..

I am not really going to rest until getting above $9k, and I will feel better to go above $10k.. just to feel better about the bottom, perhaps being "in", and that we are not being faked out too much by the manipulators, who are always present in BTClandia... .. at a certain point, the price goes up and the manipulators lose control over the UP situation, but from my non-whale vantage point, I don't think that we are quite to the loss of control situation, yet.
18707  Economy / Speculation / Re: lule on: April 13, 2018, 01:16:21 PM
apollo says we go to 8000 8100 then break 6K for a bottom around 4500-4700

first part done, now its shorting party before the mega rektage

I know the community isn’t ready for it but I think we have seen the bottom for 2018.  This isn’t 2014.

In any event we will find out soon enough.  Shorts still at September 2017 levels.  We all know what happened after September.



Are you talking about early or late September 2017?

You recall in August 2017, we had a price surge that brought prices above $3k and approaching $5k, but in mid September 2017, we had a quick crash down to just below $3k, and thereafter a resumption of upwards that later broke above $5k.... so, I am assuming that you are suggesting that shorts were high after mid-september 2017, too, but they got reckt?  or no?

 There were a lot of recking of shorts throughout late 2017, because there was a lot of FUD surrounding the August 1 Bcash hardfork, but the FUD continued with Segwit2x.. that ended up resolving favorably, too... at least favorable for BTC long and favorable for BTC HODLers.
18708  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 13, 2018, 04:43:25 AM
the cat eats better than me

it's not fair to punish her for my bitcoin addiction

You have to really screw up in a bull market in order to be into catfood territory, no? 


True, I'm doing real good. Soap, toothpaste, bus pass, the works.

Actually, I started going to the gym a bit more recently, and I started to think that if ever I was homeless, a gym membership would be a good thing to attempt to maintain.
18709  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 13, 2018, 04:31:21 AM
the cat eats better than me

it's not fair to punish her for my bitcoin addiction

You have to really screw up in a bull market in order to be into catfood territory, no?  I mean, sure, we have had nearly a 4 month period of correction, but gosh, anyone who bought at least a year ago, or longer, should still be UP 3x, no?

Also, I saw some posters here talking about a bear market.  We are not yet in a bear market; however if BTC prices are lower than $7k at the end of 2018, I might be willing to consider such possible labels....

Also, I understand not wanting to sell BTC that you already accumulated, so perhaps that is the reason for the cat food discussion.. even though on paper, a lot of us are likely still rich, but we remain nervous about parting with any of our BTC when a large number of us perceive it to be an appreciating asset in the coming months to years, but we just don't know exactly when that price appreciation is going to take place....  So I can understand being afraid to sell BTC for fiat or using BTC for consumables, such as food.

Sometimes, I also feel a bit contemplatative regarding whether I am eating out 3 times a week, and perhaps I should cut back or maybe I should cut back on how much the meals cost?

To me, it feels like I deserve a treat, even if I could still accumulate more BTC with my profits, but it just still feels so good to be enjoying some luxuries, because these current prices sure feel so much better (and I feel able to do it) than the mid $200s prices of the 2015 period.. and it feels much less guilty to be spending BTC that are in the black, and I would have never thought about spending my BTC in 2015 - when my portfolio was in the red... .. so if I ever spent any BTC back in 2015 - I always replaced it right away, in those times.
18710  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 13, 2018, 03:33:41 AM
We are near 8k. Lets see if this time is another bull trap or not.

Personally I don't think so. The volatility had gotten so low there that the price was deciding which way to break out. It looks to me like a decision was made.

It would be nice if some of you goofballs will explain yourselves, rather than talking in amorphisms and also seeming to want to cover your predictions to be true, no matter what?... hahahahaha

 Roll Eyes

You mean aphorisms, Jay? Maybe you ought to limit yourself to smaller words for a while?


Nope... I meant what I said.  Helrow?  You are in a real lecturing mood lately... You must be feeling good.  right?





18711  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 13, 2018, 02:31:35 AM
and they keep us enthralled


If it was a Bitcoin chart instead of Pokemon this would be more accurate for me! Wink

You have decided to grace us with your presence?  Maybe you have been too out of touch with bitcoin in recent times?  Have you been following the SSS plan, more or less?  in other words cash some out on the way up and even perhaps buy back in, too?
18712  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 13, 2018, 02:10:10 AM
We are near 8k. Lets see if this time is another bull trap or not.

Personally I don't think so. The volatility had gotten so low there that the price was deciding which way to break out. It looks to me like a decision was made.

It would be nice if some of you goofballs will explain yourselves, rather than talking in amorphisms and also seeming to want to cover your predictions to be true, no matter what?... hahahahaha

 Roll Eyes
18713  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 13, 2018, 01:57:29 AM
Hairy's buying and Jay is selling, this should all even out soon

Yes.  The irony.  I woke up this morning, and I found that the sudden 12% BTC price rise had caused automatic sales of about .7% of my total BTC holdings... yet the irony of such a sudden BTC price rise that triggered several sell orders, seems to be that the percentage of the value of the ratios of my total holdings of bitcorns as compared to fiat seemed to have gone up a little bit after such sudden price rise  (I mean that about a week ago, when prices were in the $6,700 territory... my portfolio skew in favor of bitcoins had been floating in the 93.1% arena and then after the recalculation my ratio went to 93.7%), as compared to before... Go figure?  

I may not be calculating too well, because sometimes there are more changes than merely the one pump that just occurred, but from time to time, I need to make adjustments to my ratios, too.  

Currently, I am o.k. with my BTC ratio staying in the 92% to 94% arena, yet if BTC prices were to go shooting up really fast towards ATHs, then I would not really want my bitcoin ratio to drop very far below 90%, unless maybe if we had gone much past the ATH territories in a rapid manner (something like a blow-off top)..  

 On the other hand, if BTC prices were to go shooting down to $3k or something like that, I probably still would like to have 96% or so ratios of the total value in BTC.....  just to be prepared for the possibility of more downwards, even if it did not seem too likely to me.... Adjust, adjust, adjust... and perhaps reconsiderations of strategies seem to be ongoing my habits.

So yeah, I just ate a big shit sandwhich...

If you were short you deserved it. We're supposed to be going up. That's the idea.

Hahahahaha... another irony... Rosewater lecturing the bear wanna bees...    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
18714  Other / Meta / Re: Merit broke my life on: April 11, 2018, 08:07:07 PM
indeed the question about the rules of achievement made by the people responsible for this forum of course we can not do anything to reject it, although this gift rule can make it difficult for us to raise our rankings to move up to the next level, we should certainly keep abreast of and appreciate what has become the rule here.

Did you use google translate to make this post? I am interested as the language used seems strange to me, this cant be how someone is taught to speak English surely?


The above language makes perfect sense if you happen to be a martian... hello?
18715  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2018, 06:22:14 AM
 

I'll take shitcoiner lies for $100, Alex!

When there are over 500 paper claims for every single physical T-Oz of gold and silver, that does not count as stock.  Divide whatever bogus math he's using by 500+ then re-run the numbers.  Then when fiats and CBs all fail, they are the defacto only real money that exists anyway.  

As I've already covered a million times before, there is no valid Schelling point in craptocurrency.  If anything there's an inverse Schelling point because overhead is high and scalability low, forcing people into other chains to free themselves from usurious fees instead of everyone going to a single chain.  There is also the fact each craptocurrency is susceptible to millions of black swans that silver and gold are not.  Some of these black swans are shared among each crapto, while others aren't, so that would also cause hedging and divergence into multiple chains too.


In other words, don't get ur selfie roached.





There is a whole article dedicated to one kind of roach.... https://rentafriend2000.wordpress.com/2015/07/14/new-species-found-the-roach-clown/
18716  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: April 11, 2018, 06:14:23 AM
Are the merit sources on vacation?  It seems like there aren't many merits going around these days.  Maybe people are just lazy to give them out or don't really care for the system.  

Could you be a bit more specific in your analysis?  What is your basis and evidence for your assertions?

The analysis of some people like these are :
1. I have good posts/some people in my favorite board have good posts
2. I dont get merit/they dont get merit
3. = Merit sources on vacation or broken system or unfair system
4. Repeat every time

Surely Soke deserves merit, right?  

He has nearly 100 1-liner posts, and half of them have come into creation since the merit system was implemented.  

I don't regret giving Soke a merit in an attempt to encourage him, but surely, the encouragement does not seemed to have created substantive or quality posts or even a "go getter" attitude out of him, which could be helpful to anyone who really is interested in attempting to attract the interest of other members to give them a merit... and yeah, we all know that merits can come from anyone, they do not have to come from merit sources...   Maybe Soke will provide some evidence for his assertion?  

On the other hand, probably I would be waiting for a long time before some kind of meaningful and substantively backed perspective actually comes from him?

I might be looking like this if I were to wait?

18717  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2018, 05:13:37 AM
Ultimately we know that the sympathy card is one that you frequent in playing.... Poor por tera dee...... ebra....  Cry Cry
They said I was supposed to see my spirit animal or something - it was supposed to be like a bird or a snake or a jaguar.. but I saw none of those and I bet you can guess what it really was.  Wink



My understanding is that if you have a lot of deamons inside then your ayahuasca experience is going to be more challenging, and the inside might not look so pretty.

But, hey, I am no expert, and maybe I would even be a bit more chicken-shit to deal with myself... I have also heard that sometimes ayahuasca can help to slay some of the deamons too... I suppose, even if those deamons happen to be bears... might be good, no?

You may need to return ur selfie to peru... confront the deamons and perhaps even become "good friends" with the mountaineous creatures in the midst.... let the boy come out in you, perhaps?    what happens in peru... blah blah blah..  Lips sealed
18718  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen. on: April 11, 2018, 05:01:38 AM
Bitcoin can hit 100k$, though the worth of dollar at that point...  Smiley Smiley

And?  What is your time line?  You talking 1 year, 3 years, 5 years, 10 years?    

Even though in theory, the dollar could collapse quite quickly, but those kinds of apocalyptic scenarios seem like fantasy pie in sky scenarios that have been in the making for more than 50 years...   So more realistically, the dollar is not going to collapse all of a sudden, even though there continues to be a lot of corruption that is likely not much worse, relatively than any previous time period....    

In other words, bitcoin does not need sudden dollar collapse in order to a have strong use cases and strong reasons to buy into it for its likely appreciation value.


Edit:
  The Pharmacist beat me to it....  Cheesy
18719  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen. on: April 11, 2018, 04:44:36 AM
Bagholders who bought at $20k are the new poor welfare people, gentlemen.

Only if they are stupid enough to sell.

If anyone thought that it is was good to buy bitcoin on the way up to $20k, then these BTC optimistic folks should consider it to have been good to buy BTC on the way back down too, currently about 65% discounted (in the $6,800 price territory)... ..

Seems to me that, currently, we are in a decent time to accumulate BTC, and perhaps those who purchased BTC on the way up to $20k will be "back in black" earlier if they continue to purchase on the way down, rather than waiting out the situation?  

This seems to be a time (and an investment) that allows for pro-activity, and passivity might cause a less preferred situation, and seems to be a time to possibly own one's convictions by continuing to buy BTC on the way down...

However, I understand that part of the problem might be that some of those folks who had ben buying on the way up in November, December, and perhaps January, did not understand what they were buying, so they too soon got scared and sold their BTC when they should have been buying on the way down to lower their costs per BTC.  Perhaps?

Good time to accumulate some more BTC.. and perhaps, prepare for the future, too, no?
18720  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2018, 04:32:16 AM
Fail to breach $7,000 and then plunge

Say it isn't so.


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