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1881  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "Bitcoin, No Boundaries" Event in NYC - October 14th on: October 09, 2014, 11:05:43 PM
No specific dress code, although we will be in the somewhat fancy British Consulate building.
Ralph Lauren black bathrobe it is!
1882  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "Bitcoin, No Boundaries" Event in NYC - October 14th on: October 09, 2014, 10:41:40 PM
Should've included this in the OP: "6:00pm to 6:45pm – Beer, wine, and appetizers served" right next to "It's totally free to attend"

See you there!  Grin

BTW, dress code?
1883  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin changing my ideology from socialism to libertarianism! What about you? on: October 09, 2014, 12:14:31 PM
I believe that 'transfer of wealth' is the only workable way to have a steady-state society which is worth living in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

The reason why is that most people are hopeless losers and lack the potential to produce enough value to fund a reasonable life while a minority can do so with ease.
Actually, that's mostly down to genetic factors, and the income of your parents.

http://news.sciencemag.org/biology/2014/10/genes-dont-just-influence-your-iq-they-determine-how-well-you-do-school
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/10/02/1408777111
http://www.businessinsider.com/sat-chart-score-vs-income-2014-3

Surprise, capitalism is super unfair! The fact that you couldn't google this shit yourself actually dovetails nicely into my next point...

I never did care for the dog-eat-dog survival of the fittest malice that I see in that movement even though I believe I could thrive in such an environment personally if I choose to do so.
Why am I not surprised? The fact that you're foolish enough to think you would thrive is a strong indication that you would probably fail and die horribly.



Anyway, social darwinism is top-notch bullshit-insanity.

At this point I feel that a cold hard world where one is free to exploit one's peers on an individual basis via ruthless competitiveness, as unpleasant as it may be for a majority of people, is STILL a better place to exist than one dominated by the fascism and the totalitarianism which is never far behind.
Fascism, you mean like the corporate oligarch neo-fascism that capitalist society is rapidly (d)evolving into as we speak?
1884  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin is a scam on: October 09, 2014, 02:37:41 AM
bitcoin is a scam.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Myths
1885  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin changing my ideology from socialism to libertarianism! What about you? on: October 09, 2014, 01:39:50 AM
sick cool post beliathon
Myth and falsehood are only worms, burrowing inside the great tree of truth. They are mortal things, while the tree is eternal, and so they are doomed to lose the war for the consciousness of humanity.
1886  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin changing my ideology from socialism to libertarianism! What about you? on: October 08, 2014, 11:20:23 PM
the real solution to this argument would be to cite  scientific studies which found out if majority of humans are selfish individuals or altruistic!
"Despite the mounting research evidence that humans are wired for empathy and often express their empathic regard by engaging in altruistic activity, the naysayers cling to the defense that people act that way because they have learned, through past experience and conditioning, that helping another person mutes their own empathic distress and provides them a sense of relief and, on occasion, even pleasure, because they have been morally accountable. Hoffman points out that just because one feels better because he or she was able to help another in distress doesn't mean that it is the sole or even a major reason for being altruistic. The pleasure might be an unexpected by-product, but not a prime motivating factor, for engaging in altrustic behavior in the first place." [refer to study 4 for elaboration]
-Jeremy Rifkin, The Empathic Civilization

Here's 5 studies and a TED talk for you. Four of the studies are for Homo Sapiens, one is for Capuchin monkeys.

Study 1:
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/11641621/ns/health-childrens_health/t/roots-altruism-show-babies-helping-hands/
Psychology researcher Felix Warneken, of Germany's Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Enthropology, published the results of a study of toddlers exhibiting altruistic behavior far earlier than previously expected, demonstrating the biological nature of human altruism. The following video will illustrate what happened:

Study 2:
http://news.yale.edu/2007/11/21/babies-prefer-good-samaritans

Study 3:
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/03/28/science/researchers-trace-empathy-s-roots-to-infancy.html

Study 4:
http://onthehuman.org/2009/10/empathic-concern-and-altruism-in-humans/

Study 5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKhAd0Tyny0

TED Talk - Frans de Waal: Moral behavior in animals:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcJxRqTs5nk

This world is also filled with ISIS like people who show no empathy!
Not so! ISIS members do have empathy, but only for a very limited sphere of family/comrades. For the rest of humanity, they show little to no empathy. This of course is illogical, incestuous madness, like something transported from the dark ages. Thanks religion, for dragging shitty bronze-age ethics into the 21st century!

If you trace back through history, there has always been empathy for tribe-mates, or family / blood-kin. Through social evolution, reason compels us to expand our sphere of empathy wider and wider. Today, empathy is commonly extended to all fellow citizens of one's nation. Not so long ago this would've been a radical idea.
The logical conclusion of this trend is that eventually, all human beings will see themselves as citizens not of a nation, but of the world. We will begin to see all our fellow humans beings as kin, who deserve our love and compassion just as much as our own sons and daughters.

Shouldn't we, as individuals and civilizations as a whole, aspire to be the best that we can be?
Yes, exactly, of course we should. Well said my friend.

“Nationalism is our form of incest, is our idolatry, is our insanity.
Patriotism is its cult... Just as love for one individual which excludes the love for others is not love,
love for one's country which is not part of one's love for humanity is not love, but idolatrous worship.”
-Erich Fromm, The Sane Society


Yours in compassion and solidarity,

World Citizen Beliathon




Your move, capitalists and sociopaths (insofar as there is any meaningful practical difference).
1887  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin changing my ideology from socialism to libertarianism! What about you? on: October 08, 2014, 04:38:40 PM
Truly, the worst thing that could come out of a libertarian society would be ending up right back where we are now.
Not even close. Capitalism without government to rein it in would quickly lead to a nightmarish dystopia where corporations rule hordes of slaves with an iron fist. There would be mass sex-slavery, rampant and never-ending war & murder for profit, and starvation wouldn't even be considered a problem. In a word, fascism.

Basically, this:



Most logical people make the switch  Grin
well said!
1888  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin changing my ideology from socialism to libertarianism! What about you? on: October 08, 2014, 01:53:01 PM
Libertarianism only makes sense if you either can support yourself now or you believe you will be able to without today's government regulations.  
Your "ability to support yourself" is an illusion. Unless you own a farm, grow your own food, AND supply your own electricity, there are thousands of human beings supporting your survival. Without their servitude, you would die of exposure and/or starvation.

Many of those humans work for shit pay in places like Mexico, China, and Bangladesh. This is because they're lower on the socio-economic hierarchy than you, which is mostly because they were unfortunately born and live in the wrong nation.
The existence and functioning of this hierarchy depends wholly on continuous systematic violence. Without that violence, they stop sending you the food, electricity, or clothes you consume. You might still be able to acquire those goods and services without the hegemony, but it would cost you 5-10x what you are paying now.

This system of carefully organized hierarchy-based violence, we call "capitalism".

1889  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin changing my ideology from socialism to libertarianism! What about you? on: October 07, 2014, 06:04:58 PM
Thanks for your advice, as you said I am going to read more, think more , so I  bought these from amazon just now
Err... yeah...  those books are great if you're a teenager first learning about philosophy. Might I suggest you branch out from reading only Rand's work like holy texts? Here are some humble reading recommendations:



















1890  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: United we stand, divided we fall - the coming rise of cryptofiat on: October 07, 2014, 03:17:57 PM
I would still perhaps consider the other side that when you compare the evolution of technologies (radio vs tv etc.) you are not considering the HUGE dept fiat has been tied into. If they were to replace this with a cryptofiat how would they overcome the large depts that are tied into it between almost all nations around the world?
There is only one traditional way of resolving international debt...

1891  Economy / Speculation / Re: I'm Back In! on: October 07, 2014, 05:28:34 AM
I want to know if this was manipulation or a legitimate sale. Speculation anyone?
What difference does it make? It ends the same regardless of any temporary setbacks or manipulation. The laws of the universe remain the same as they were on day 1, mathematics does not bend to the wills of men.
1892  Other / Off-topic / Re: Video Evidence showing Reddit banned our Bitcoin Site & Blocked our Entire IP on: October 07, 2014, 05:24:08 AM
all I did was pay one person a quarter to post any news on a subreddit I created, as detailed in the link provided (OP)
translation: "i violated the rules of reddit by paying a shill to advertise my donation-soliciting web site, and I got burned"
1893  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Russian Revolution coming soon... on: October 07, 2014, 05:21:17 AM
Interesting, they were against it some time ago, but then reversed their stance. I wonder what made them change their mind again!
They realized finally what they are dealing with here... well not truly, because they are dealing with inevitability, but they must see bitcoin's potential to rob nations of their monopoly over money creations and give back power to the people in a world-changing, irreversible way.

Bitcoin is a truly frightening prospect for any tyrant or oligarch that is paying attention.
1894  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sell me on using Western Union on: October 06, 2014, 09:22:50 PM
As someone who has started working in a foreign country getting paid in dollars...I have seen first hand how Bitcoin is a huge advantage over wire transfer and currency conversion.
Easy peasy. You're one of the 99% of human beings on this planet who doesn't know about bitcoin and/or has no idea how to use it.

Now I don't need to "sell you" on anything, do I? Bitcoin is an infant technology, wait some months/years and there won't even be any argument, Western Union will simply cease to exist.
1895  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: United we stand, divided we fall - the coming rise of cryptofiat on: October 06, 2014, 08:33:42 PM
Cryptofiat: governments (and megacorpo) recognize the usefulness of the blockchain tech but don't want to share the power of minting money with the world at large (Bitcoin) but want to keep tight control over it...
Please alert me when this FascismCoin hits the market, I'd sure love to divest my savings from bitcoin and dump them there. I'm sure I'm not the only one, either!

 Roll Eyes
1896  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin changing my ideology from socialism to libertarianism! What about you? on: October 06, 2014, 05:59:56 PM
98% humans are selfish individuals.. the best system is the one that rewards the selfish desires  of the individual...
Do yourself and the internet a favor: read more, learn more, think more, and talk less.
1897  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin changing my ideology from socialism to libertarianism! What about you? on: October 06, 2014, 05:00:49 PM
Let's all take a moment to learn about Ayn Rand, the author/philosopher behind modern "market libertarianism".
1898  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Russian Revolution coming soon... on: October 05, 2014, 06:49:15 PM
They are waking up, just like everyone else from Hong Kong to Mexico to USA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twSCvbTdYTc
1899  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen. on: October 05, 2014, 02:42:09 PM
Society hasn't advanced any since medieval times. We're still worried about the feudal lord throwing us in the dungeon if we don't share our crops with him.
Well, it's advanced some. Violence-based slavery has evolved into indoctrination/deception/coercion based wage-slavery. But the fundamentals of society remain the same: legitimized violence governs all from the top down.

"Civilization is based on a clearly defined and widely accepted yet often unarticulated hierarchy. Violence done by those higher on the hierarchy to those lower is nearly always invisible, that is, unnoticed. When it is noticed, it is fully rationalized. Violence done by those lower on the hierarchy to those higher is unthinkable, and when it does occur is regarded with shock, horror, and the fetishization of the victims. The property of those higher on the hierarchy is more valuable than the lives of those below. It is acceptable for those above to increase the amount of property they control—in everyday language, to make money—by destroying or taking the lives of those below. This is called production. If those below damage the property of those above, those above may kill or otherwise destroy the lives of those below. This is called justice."
-Derrick Jensen

I believe this is going to change within our lifetimes, though. I believe the information age we have just entered is the exit from a world governed primarily by violence and secondarily by reason.

Hopefully we'll survive long enough to see a society governed solely by reason, with violence becoming universally repugnant instead of hyper-fetishized as it is now.
1900  Economy / Economics / Re: Reasons to HODL! on: October 05, 2014, 05:27:02 AM
Bitcoin has serious flaws.  The blockchain size and the block time.   Other coins are going to rise up, each having mathematical certainty.  Other reasons?

There are better protocols than TCP/IP and IPv4.
And yet we are still using them. Ask yourself why, and you might understand why such "flaws" might actually be irrelevant.
network effect
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