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1061  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Google Is the New Evil Empire on: April 22, 2015, 04:30:25 PM
Stopped reading at "FoxBusiness"

read a book http://www.amazon.com/Googled-The-End-World-Know/dp/0143118048
1062  Other / Off-topic / Re: If BTC goes to $1000 or more, what would you do? on: April 21, 2015, 08:22:36 PM
Let´s hope some of us get to meet at The Happy Crypto Pub on Easy Street sometime.
Tragically, none of us are free from this miserable existence until all of us are.  A few slaves gaining their freedom through bitcoin doesn't solve the problem that is capitalism.
1063  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Let's say satoshi is cashing out 1million BTC on: April 21, 2015, 08:17:38 PM
-You want to do it in a relative short period of time, so no cashing out slowly in 5 years version.
-You want to keep your anonymity intact.
Choose one.
1064  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens with Coin collectors and people into Numismatics? on: April 19, 2015, 06:02:35 PM
How do they adapt?
How do any of us adapt to a changing world, a dying capitalism? We do the same as our ancestors did in times of great suffering, we lean on each other until a new civilization forms within the corpse of the old.
1065  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How can the Bitcoin Foundation best help Bitcoin? From New Exec Director on: April 17, 2015, 05:43:53 PM
Congratulations Bruce, glad to see a respectable name take the position.
1066  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Günter Grass right? Heading into WW3? on: April 16, 2015, 12:45:42 PM
Mankind will be saved only by space travel. There is no room left on earth for both educated people and ambitious politicians. Space is the answer.
I only wish that were true. Unfortunately for us dwellers in the technologically humble realm of 2015, extra-planetary colonization is a class two impossibility. Meaning it's not going to happen this century, and it's probably not going to happen within the next 300 years either.



The problem is that space is a whole lot bigger than we think it is. The universe is so vast that our primate brains are incapable of fathoming even the distance between neighboring galaxies. This site should help provide some insight on that phenomenon.
Should Faster Than Light travel prove to be an impossibility - and this is not at all unlikely - we may never be able to colonize another planet. We need to prepare for that outcome by protecting the long term viability of Earth, our only home.

Related recommended reading:





 
1067  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Stop getting trolled by taxes, it's time to put an end to Tax Day on: April 16, 2015, 12:36:17 PM
I have no problem with taxes whatsoever, so long as they're not enforced with violence. Kidnapping and caging non-violent innocent citizens for tax violations sounds an awful lot like debtor's prison to me, which is supposed to be illegal here in the USA.
When you don't pay taxes, "your" (read: their) government sends Men of Violence to collect. That's the moment I treat the government and their men as enemies.

 "Whoever lays his hand on me to govern me is a usurper and tyrant, and I declare him my enemy."
-Proudhon
1068  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Palestine & israel? What do you think about that situation? on: April 16, 2015, 12:16:25 PM
I think religion has absolutely no place in a world in which the atom can be split and viruses can be crafted. There is no room for superstition in the twenty first century, no room at all.

We are the gods of life and death now, the sole steward species of Earth, and we ought to take that power - that responsibility - very seriously. Real gods shouldn't worship false gods, it's a piss-poor excuse to behave like barbarians.
1069  Other / Politics & Society / Re: So this is what Society has become.. on: April 16, 2015, 12:08:36 PM
I am a christian but i can't even remember the last time i have read the bible and like you said, this is the internet people won't have the same ideas and opinion. So deal with it Smiley
Sure, no problem, I'll deal with it. Here's a little refresher for ya, because as you said, it's been awhile since you've read your one book.

In the following argument of nine premises, I will aim to convince you that Jesus of Nazareth was a fictional character, and not a real person. I do not intend to sway the beliefs of many of you, nor even budge them - I know this to be an impossibility, for if the religious mind is well-trained at anything, it is circumventing rational argument. I only intend to sew seeds of doubt, in the hopes that perhaps some of you will nurture them and let them grow. Here goes.

1. Much, if not most, of the Bible is arguably fiction. Quit being so intellectually dishonest, Christians - this is the twenty-first century. That means the burden of proof is on YOU. If you make a claim about the universe, it is up to you to prove it is true, not the other way around. It is not up to us, the rest of the world, to prove your claims false - that is not scientific thinking, that is anti-scientific thinking. Because I am a man of my times, and believe in correcting ignorance, what I am doing here is out of courtesy to YOU, just as if I were to argue publicly that there is a Flying Spaghetti Monster orbiting Venus preparing to blow up Planet Earth, one of you would probably, out of simple human decency attempt to correct me and point me towards the truth. This is my way of doing that. Now, back to the Bible being fiction... that part's easy. Find me a snake with vocal chords, water that is dense enough for a human being to walk on, or a chemical process that converts complex carbohydrates to fish. Until then, you're out of luck, sucker. The evidence wins, and the evidence sides with me. These are invented stories... fictional dramas meant to impart some moral lesson. They are not real.

2. Following point two: from an objective, scrutinizing view, there is no reason to believe one story in the Bible over another. We cannot honestly engage shades of truth here - either the books in the Bible are historically true or they are not. Since they almost ubiquitously contain material to make the scientific person skeptical, we can chance to say the same is true of the entire book: either it happened, or it didn't. Therefore, it is no less plausible to disbelieve the Jesus myth than the myth about Enoch the nine-hundred year old man or the creation myth wherein God pats the first humans out of clay. Here's a hint: humans, like all other complex organisms, reached their present condition by millions of years of natural selection through the self-preservation of certain greedy genes. We can observe this happening today; anti-biotic resistant bacteria are a good example. Plus, we've mapped the human genome - we know our ancestry, and it's simian. Even Pope John Paul II said evolution is a historical fact. People did not come from clay.

3. By definition, intellect, or "reason" is the ability to revise one's beliefs in light of better argumentation. Taking simple, empirical data from the the world around you should make it easy to determine that the physical laws of the universe DO NOT CHANGE. It therefore stands to reason that "miracles" can only possible be one of two phenomena: A, an outside agent actually interfering with the laws of the universe; or B, hyperbolized coincidences. Considering the Bible was written in a time when allegory was the most common form of journalistic reporting and most people still believed spitting on a wound was an appropriate way to cure it, it is far more reasonable to assume the latter.

*Side note: Seriously Hoss, let me clue you in on something: things that are impossible to do now - like walking on water, resuscitation after days of biological death, and wine magically turning into blood - were just as impossible 2,000 years ago. There's a much greater power in the universe than "belief." It's called "observation."

4. To believe these stories, you must create strange rationalizations that do not hold up to true intellectual scrutiny. This brings us to the issue of honesty. Without deluding yourself, can you honestly answer the following questions? Such as, why doesn't God heal amputees? He heals everyone else miraculously, right? But neither you nor I have ever seen an amputee grow back a leg. Oh wait, God has a special plan for them. But isn't he supposed to be loving and just? What's with the discrimination, man? Or how about Jonah surviving in the belly of that whale? Wouldn't he be partially digested after three days? Maybe Baby Balooga had a slow metabolism?

5. Following four, and this one is my favorite: if Jesus is the one true messiah, the only God, whom you shall hath no other gods before him, yada yada, how come so many gods DID come before him having nearly identical biographies? There are no less than two dozen god-men of the ancient Mediterranean whose birth was heralded by a bright star in the East (Sirius, for those who don't practice astronomy), who were also adored by wise men, walked on water, fed the hungry, resurrected the dead, were crucified and rose again, etc. Many even had the same birthday as Jesus - December 25th! Not coincidentally, this was the Roman Holiday of Saturnalia centuries before the clergy decided to call it Jesus' birthday. Surprise! Christians plagiarized earlier religions. I cannot spell it out any clearer than that. Knowing that, how can one believe anything Christian doctrine teaches? How do you even begin to separate what was invented from what was borrowed? You don't. The cold, hard truth is, it was an old story then, and it's an old story now. These messianic archetypes - the man that is god, the man who conquers death - existed long, long before Jesus came around. They were old news when soap was a cutting-edge technology, before written language was even invented. They are ancient fucking history. Jesus was not the antitype of these messianic figures, he was their distillation.

7. Following point 6. If you are skeptical of this information (and you should be, as doubt is the seed of all knowing), investigate the matter for yourself. One hugely recurring problem I find when debating with Christians is that they either know very little about other religions or are ignorant of their existence entirely. This is counter-intuitive to me, and perhaps my own fault in failing to understand the religious mind. Shouldn't it be fairly crucial to make the most educated decision in choosing a religion, if practicing the "right" one is important to you? For example, you wouldn't want to choose a religion based on plagiarism, would you? Or one that literally absorbed every earlier belief system it encountered through endless politicizing or the diplomacy of the sword? Well, better crack those books then - there's a whole heap of gods who fit the Christ mold long before Christ. I suggest you begin by researching Mithra of Rome, Attis of Frigia, Dionysis of Greece, Krishna of India, and Horus of Egypt. The last should be of particular interest to you, as his mythology is almost an exact carbon copy of Jesus', right down to the twelve apostles and three-day rebound time after being murdered by jealous clergy. Though, I should point out that Horus was worshipped nearly 1000 years BEFORE Christianity began spreading through the Hebrew-populated Roman colonies. This should come as no surprise to you, as it's written right in the bible that the Hebrews came out of Egypt.

8. On a more serious note. Western civilization may have been "built" on Judeo-Christian values (at least the "don't kill" and "don't steal" parts), but we have become a modern society and have adopted the scientific way of thinking. While the aforementioned values have indisputable merits, maintaining the dogma in its entirety is no longer necessary, especially when we consider the violence and segregation it has caused throughout the ages. Furthermore, philosophically speaking, Christian ethics are severely outdated. Since the Enlightenment, the Western World has seen far superior ethicists to Jesus of Nazareth. Kant and Mill, for example, created life-affirming ethical systems that can be applied to a wider range of people without destroying their culture or beliefs about where the universe came from and what kind of sex they should consider perverse. Truly, there is no reason to cling to the old way any longer. We have adopted science and reason in every other aspect of our lives... yet somehow we have retained Bronze Age ethics? It makes no sense. Why should we continue to believe it is better to be tribalists than to be humanists? This mentality is not compatible with a just, egalitarian society. Besides, Jesus may tell us to love one another, but he also says we should maintain the Old Testament in its entirety - no cherry-picking - which means we technically must condone rape, incest, slavery, and genocide (!). If we can do away with these parts (and we have), why not do away with the whole thing?

9. In the grand scheme of things, it would be generally permissible for one to believe in Christian ethics if it were readily understood that Jesus was not a historical person, and the story is allegory. However, if you are a Christian, you probably do believe that Jesus was a real human being. This is a threat to both the advancement of science and the absolution of religious conflict in the world, two issues that are paramount to our survival as a species as our planet nears carrying capacity and is dangerously on the brink of overheating. It creates too slippery a slope for other theocratic nonsense to take hold; for example, tthe mindset that human beings can literally live after death (how many soldiers would we send to die if everyone believed this is the only life?); or that preserving the existence of cell clusters which bear no conceivable human traits is somehow a better aim than alleviating actual human suffering; or that sex is harmful, but killing, bigotry, and total obedience to clandestine authority are healthy practices; or that blood sacrifice is a value modern societies should endorse. But Jesus WAS a real person, you say! There's a plethora of evidence! No, not really, outside of the gospels. And those hardly count as "evidence." They are secondary sources at best. Here's why: if a historical Jesus really lived and died between 0 and 33 CE, then we know beyond a doubt that at least forty years passed before the earliest gospel - the one written by Mark - was scribed. Because the aforementioned gospel discusses the destruction of Solomon's temple, we know it was written in or sometime after 70 CE. Given the lifespan of the period, that means the author or authors were at best infants or young children when Jesus of Nazareth was supposed to have been crucified. Moreover, the gospel writers are not themselves mentioned in the gospels, and they make no claim to actually having met Jesus. None of the apostles who walked with Jesus nor anyone who even met him wrote accounts to that effect. Granted, there are certain mentions of a "Christ" in the writings of Mediterranean historians from that period (not Justin Martyr or Pontius Pilate - sorry, but those are proven forgeries). However, if are a serious Christian, these should be of little consideration to you, as you know "the Christ" is really a title that simply means "the Anointed," and was taken up by many rabbis of that time. In not ONE of these documents is a man named Jesus, or Yeshua of Nazareth mentioned.

TL;DR
In conclusion, the gospels which discuss the life of Jesus of Nazareth are at best hearsay, almost certainly hyperbolized, and at worst complete fabrications. What we can determine beyond a doubt is that for at least four decades after his death, everyone in the world, including his sworn followers and students, simply forgot their messiah existed. If that doesn't cast on you a serious shade of doubt, then nothing will, and perhaps I'm not "the fool".

1070  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Günter Grass right? Heading into WW3? on: April 16, 2015, 12:58:45 AM
Global revolution or more of the same, the choice is ours. Yes, we are already on the road to World War III.  But I don't think the political will is there anymore, I don't think the people of Earth will tolerate another World War.

Any government involving itself in Super-War now risks totally damning its own legitimacy.
1071  Other / Politics & Society / Re: So this is what Society has become.. on: April 16, 2015, 12:34:12 AM
Russian investigators on Tuesday were investigating a dance school after a video showing teenage girls in bee costumes performing the sexually explicit "twerking" dance move was viewed millions of times online.

http://rt.com/news/249585-twerking-bees-children-russia/


As we advance in technology, it seems that the morality and values of people are going down..  
Oh no, not human sexuality, the horror! The humanity! ANYTHING BUT SEXUALITY! Aslo, twerking is in no way sexually explicit unless it's being done while rubbing up against another person's crutch. It's just a dance movement, at most sexually implicit. After you learn reason and modern ethics, take some time to learn the English fucking language properly. By our Dark Lord Satan, this is the internet you halfwitted fuck! Get the fuck out with your bronze age christian-dipshit moral values, grow up. Fun fact: Just about all modern people are repressed hyper-sexual promiscuous perverts, and most of us are beginning to come out of our closets. That's right, Homo Sapiens are going to be getting more and more sexual over the next century, until there's orgies on every block, and there's nothing you or your imaginary friends can do to stop it.  

God is dead, get over it. Long live reason. Now fuck off back to your bible hole you one-book reading schmuck. Try reading something not from the bronze age, start here:



1072  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will the Blockchain Endure if Bitcoin goes Bust? on: April 15, 2015, 12:10:09 PM
Blockchain without bitcoin = bank vault with no security. Mining secures the network. No bitcoin? No miner rewards, no mining, no security, no network. Get it? Good.
1073  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Bitcoin is a ponzi game on: April 15, 2015, 12:27:20 AM
In a Ponzi Scheme, the founders persuade investors that they’ll profit. Bitcoin does not make such a guarantee. There is no central entity, just individuals building an economy.

A Ponzi scheme is a zero sum game. In a ponzi scheme, early adopters can only profit at the expense of late adopters, and the late adopters always lose. Bitcoin can have a win-win outcome. Earlier adopters profit from the rise in value as Bitcoin becomes better understood and in turn demanded by the public at large. All adopters benefit from the usefulness of a reliable and widely-accepted decentralized peer-to-peer currency.

It is also important to note that Satoshi Nakamoto, creator of bitcoin, has never spent a bitcoin (other than giving them away when they were worthless) which we can verify by checking the blockchain.


Debunk other bitcoin myths here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Myths
1074  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: An open letter to April 14th, 2018. on: April 14, 2015, 01:55:07 PM
 It takes a fair amount of omniscience
My favorite part. A+ circlejerk, would read author again. Also precious was this:
The only cure would be for humans to completely stop acting like humans and that isn't going to happen.  
1075  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin 101: What happens when we decentralize money? on: April 14, 2015, 01:03:07 PM
Think of the changes wrought by the end of feudalism and the idea of separating church and state.

Now imagine how the world might change when we separate money and state. It'll be great for the vast majority, and awful for the tiny few who prefer monetary policy which produces this:

1076  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buying and holding BTC without mining.. on: April 13, 2015, 11:25:53 PM
Is like buying a gold mine and not having guards.

You have zero say in what happens to the coins you own.  
We have guards, they are the laws of the universe and cannot be broken. You can attack a vault, kill some people, and steal their gold. Try that with bitcoin, and, well..


1077  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Beware of CoinBase on: April 13, 2015, 11:21:10 PM
Coinbase basically has a monopoly over the US bitcoin market. There may be 1 or 2 other options like Circle and CampBX but their volume is limited to a fraction of Coinbase volume. I wonder if an antitrust lawsuit could be filed against them, why is there no real competition in the US?
This is absurd, there's no monopoly it's just the market is too young and small for competitors to emerge on the same scale and legitimacy as Coinbase. Give it time.
1078  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Bitcoin? on: April 13, 2015, 11:19:10 PM
think most here are missing my main point, i'm saying i'm a fan of alt to fiat p2p currencies, so I'm no saying why btc vs fiat i'm saying why bitcoin v other p2p alternatives.
There are no real non-fiat alternatives to Bitcoin at this time.
1079  Economy / Speculation / Re: Permabull Party Thread on: April 13, 2015, 06:17:11 PM
Let's be honest here guys.... is bitcoin really going back $1000+ again?


It's been over a year of bear market, it's hard to keep the optimism up.... but maybe that is the test
One year of a thousand+ year lifespan for this utility/technology. The market is being pushed down because institutional investors are preparing to pounce.

4 billion is chump change to Wall Street, too easy to manipulate. Wait and buy at 200 if it dips there, is my best guess.
1080  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS impregnates 9-year-old girl on: April 13, 2015, 02:43:00 PM
Thanks, religion. Another fine contribution to modern civilization.
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