I am little confused.. . I have already a bank account/debit card with paypal account. So can anyone please, explain me the benefits of bicoin wallet something else.. .. As I am newbie I am little confused.. .. !! !!
The main point of bitcoin is that you can be your own bank and no third party or bank account is needed. Maybe this is unnecessary for you, but for many others it's not. Some people don't or can't have a bank account and bitcoin is a solution to that. Many people are also treating bitcoin like a speculative asset as well where there's money to be made from trading or even holding it (know as hodling here), but that doesn't come without risk. If none of that interests you then bitcoin might not be for you, but I think everyone should try own a little bit of bitcoin whether it's to hold as a long-term investment or just to be a part of the revolution. What you do with it is entirely up to you though. |
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@hilariousandco is it too late to join the pool? I don't mind if I have lost two weeks of gameplay (although thank goodness I didn't predict because I would had lost woefully) but I'm feeling in the mood to give the pool a try and since money is now involved hopefully my predictions will be less influence by emotions.
Anyone can join at any point during the tournament, just obviously the longer it goes on the less likely you are to win a main prize. Joining now isn't that much of a disadvantage though, especially if you have a good week or two. Getting exact scores can really boost you up the table quickly and even the better players still have weeks where they get next to zero points which happened to me quite a few times. I did pretty crap this week really apart from the one correct score and am right down the bottom for this round yet still in second place overall. There's also the consolation prizes to play for so even if it becomes likely that you're not going to win a main top 5 prize you can still always gun for a highest score from a round. I managed to crawl back up to second place (though joint with Mbitr) with the correct scoreline on the Leicester game which only one other player went for. Sometimes the gamble pays off. Heard a lot of people were even backing Leicester to win but felt the draw was more likely. Had it been at the King Power I might have thought different. Here will be the prizes for this pool (minus any fees if there's not enough to cover it): Main prizes: 0.04 1st 0.03 2nd 0.02 3rd 0.01 4th 0.005 5th Consolation prizes for highest score from a round: 0.005 1st 0.0025 2nd 0.0025 3rd 0.0025 4th 0.0025 5th Hopefully these figures will be worth a lot more by the end of the season, which finishes a week before the halving. |
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Snip I wanted to hear how the OP thinks and based on what he is making those claims. He mentioned that those 'bad posters' are from one of the campaigns managed by Yahoo62278 or DarkStar_. Highly unlikely that some of the most knowledgeable and active users in the technical sections of this forum don't now how to post. But lets wait for some feedback by the OP. What is and isn't a good poster is completely subjective, but examples of what the op thinks are bad posters would be helpful, especially in regards to the Chipmixer campaign. Can't comment on Yahoo's as I don't know what campaigns he's running but Darkstar's accepted candidates are usually among the best posters. If op wants to make a case for a poorly run campaign then he should probably expand upon the users he has in mind, otherwise this thread will go nowhere. |
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I wouldn't really look at as or call them 'soft bad'. Most of the time they're just left in the queue because no mod had decided to get involved for whatever reason. If they were truly a bad report then they'd likely be marked as so.
Don't you think there should be more mods assigned? Two global mods were removed, because they were inactive, and the moderation team could definitely use some help I assume? Like there could be temporary volunteers/intern moderators? People do a lot of shit for "clout" here, I am sure many would gladly volunteer for helping the mod team. Well, given the current amount of reports and backlog on sig spam/unsubstantial posts and current staffs reluctance to go through them swiftly it might be a good idea. I've suggested maybe implementing some dedicated sign spam mods to clear it all up since it takes so much time. Ideally we'd have two report buttons/queues to help filter it better. |
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I know we've had this conversation before (and I don't want it to seem like I'm blaming you in any way) but if we subjected all campaigns to the rules you have laid down here (Signature Campaign Guidelines), I firmly believe spam would drastically reduce. Once word starts spreading that signatures are removed and both users and campaigns are banned when their participants spam, campaigns would be forced to actually moderate themselves and monitor their participants, and spammers would be forced to actually write something useful or just give up altogether. I also believe that, but only theymos can act on or enforce that, unless he gives the power to banish certain campaigns signatures to someone else. Luckily I don't think there's too many campaigns that are causing too much damage right now but there's probably a lot that are paying for mediocre posts. I don't pay that close attention to new ones and only really notice them when spam is everywhere so maybe I'm wrong. Those projects should pay for it. Why forum has to pay money to clear their shits, while they earn money from their shitshows in the forum?
Some projects hire professional managers to manage their campaigns/ bounties; they do readily to spend funds for their promotions. Not all of them are good projects, but at least they initially want to run their serious promotions in forum. For the rest, they create Newbie accounts, buy Coppermembership, or bug high-ranked accounts, then run their shit campaigns, zero cost but might bright huge returns back for them. It's unfair for forum and our community.
There's probably plenty of people here who could run them decently. I'm sure some users would even accept payment in tokens, but it's a real issue when inexperienced users run them, many of whom are brand new to the forum themselves and don't know how things work here or what should be expected of them, but if we let people run them how they want then people are going to take advantage of that and be lazy in doing it. Then of course there's the campaigns that don't even have a manager to begin with and those are the ones that do the worst damage. |
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I had no idea Liverpool were playing Chelsea last night. I think old football players becoming coaches is not a good idea at all, I mean maybe Lampard because he was always a smart player but if you want to look at good coaches you will see that not many of them were star players ever.
Mourinho is known for not played at a major league at all, only trials and so forth, Klopp wasn't a big name neither, even pep was a decent player but not a star, if you want to look at great coaches most of them are players who have retired early and got into coaching early as well because they knew they wouldn't be players wanted at age 35 so they start early, Lampard wasn't like that many new coaches who are seen like promising future will be a let down because they played instead of coaching in years the other ones started coaching already.
Most managers these days are ex players and it's only going to become more common now as the retirement age is probably getting younger and younger and being retired in your thirties is a pretty harsh blow, but what better job is there for them to do than being a manager. They're certainly qualified or have the experience. I think people need to stop putting too much pressure on managers and expect them to win everything. These days if you lose a couple of games in a row people start to talk about you being sacked and managers don't get chance to build their teams and win anything. Remember Fergie didn't win anything for the first few years. Pep's first managerial gig was Barcalona B team and even they are probably better than most other teams. He then wen't straight into managing Barca, and if we're being honest, you'd have to be pretty terrible to not win anything with them. If you put me in charge of Barcelona or Man City I'm pretty sure I'd win something. Too much credit is given to managers especially when they've gone straight into managing world class teams, but as I've said before, let's see how well a manager like Pep would do managing a team from the lower leagues. Go manage a team Grimbsy and get them into the Premier League then I'll call you great  |
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Serious users never or rarely visit those boards, so there are mostly spammers in those boards. It's a catch 22 situation. Serious users don't use those boards because they are filled with spam, and they are filled with spam because serious users aren't using them. Until we increase our efforts to deal with the spammers, the quality of discussion in these boards will not improve. I agree with other members here who have suggested more mods and patrollers, but we also need more regular users reporting the spam. I would also like to see more bans of escalating length being handed out for spammers, and more topics being locked when they have run their course and before they turn in to spam mega threads. Those boards are likely heaven for spammers. They are nearly safe in those boards. I think more patrollers are enough, and forum might not need more moderators for those boards, that will result in additional burden on forum funds (to pay for more moderators). Moreover, those boards can be kept cleaner from community-led efforts through spam reports. To do this, forum should have something new (like long-considering report badges) in order to motivate users to do more spam reports. I think we should probably have some dedicated 'sig spam' mods that deal with unsubstantial posts. There's just far too much of it for current staff to deal with and it dwarfs all the more important stuff. If we have two separate report buttons/queues like I suggested then those sig spam mods could just have access to that and handle all reports on spam so it frees up current staff to deal with the urgent things. As I've mentioned before I think we should also look at charging campaigns a fee to operate here or alt coins can pay a fee to have their own sub board and that money could be used to pay the sig spam mods as I don't think campaigns should be allowed to advertise for free here, especially when it's them that is causing 99% of the damage to the forum in the process. I think more patrollers are enough, and forum might not need more moderators for those boards, that will result in additional burden on forum funds (to pay for more moderators). The forum currently has 1250 BTC in cold storage, plus an undisclosed amount in hot wallets. It also takes in around $500,000 a year on ad revenue. Forum funds are not a hurdle to employing more moderators. Maybe, but at the same time I don't think the forum should burn through money paying for an issue that is being caused by campaigns and they should be compensating the forum for money spent trying to clear it up. Either that or change how campaigns are allowed to operate here and the bad ones should be banished. Once they realise there's repercussions for their laziness and ineptitude they'll soon change their ways. |
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I'm new here and just check some advantages on being here in bitcointalk.org. I've noticed that earning here was one of the major goal of other people that registered in here. I don't know any issue about earning here so I can say that it's very beneficial. Another thing that I noticed is the participants of the campaign(where people earn money), how do the organizer or manager of a campaign chose the participants? so i assumed that participants are being chose by their way of posting (correct me if there are mistakes). I check a campaign and the participants, i noticed that some aren't good at posting and still earning btc. I concluded that ranks doesn't define your ideas because when it comes to campaign it is just define the amount of your payment and still lacks ideas on posting. any thoughts?
Well you've highlighted the issue with campaigns here. If everyone of them had a very good campaign manager running them then we'd see no spam. The problem is, it doesn't matter how many great managers we have when all it takes is one lousy campaign to can come here and do nothing and they immediately dwarf all the other good campaigns by accepting everyone and everyone. It's obviously not in their interests to select good participants, but just to get as much bang for their buck and unfortunately spam pays for them in this regard because the more people posting baring their signature equals more exposure they get and that's all they want at the end of the day. All we need to do is put some restrictions on how campaigns can operate here and we certainly shouldn't be tolerating those campaigns that are doing most of the damage. |
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I have asked theymos for two report queues: one for important/urgent reports and another for sig spam or less important stuff because the report queue is getting filled with reports on sig spammers and it buries all the others so mods have to scroll through dozens and sometimes hundreds of reports just to find something that isn't sig spam related. There could either be two report buttons or a drop down menu with the most common rule infractions and that sorts them into importance somehow. How does the report queue work, exactly? Is it paginated or would it be possible to just put out a blanket search term (e.g. via CTRL/CMD+F on browsers or editors)?
I could incorporate tags in my reports, or something like [P#] where you have prioritization from say # = [1, 4] in terms of ranking. The reports are all on one page. There's just thousands of them right now and the ones on unsubstantial posts dwarf everything else. Does it really matter?
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It’s appreciated by all of us who post on the forum for the right reasons.
Personally, I don't think it matters all that much--and whether the reports are acted on or not, they certainly are appreciated. It's far better to have some reports unhandled than to not have them exist at all. I have less than 100 unhandled reports out of more than 4000 total, so I'm not complaining at all and I don't care if the unhandled ones are 'soft-bads' or not, nor do I care much for my reporting accuracy. I probably would care if it was low, but it isn't. Actmyname is likely doing a very good job in spite of mods not taking care of all of his reports, and hopefully he'll keep it up regardless of how the reports are handled. I wouldn't really look at as or call them 'soft bad'. Most of the time they're just left in the queue because no mod had decided to get involved for whatever reason. If they were truly a bad report then they'd likely be marked as so. Does it really matter?
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It’s appreciated by all of us who post on the forum for the right reasons.
Personally, I don't think it matters all that much--and whether the reports are acted on or not, they certainly are appreciated. It's far better to have some reports unhandled than to not have them exist at all. I mean, wouldn't you get anxious or even de-motivated when you report something and it doesn't get handled for days, and you don't even know why that's the case because mods can't and don't provide the explanation and why they haven't handled the report,or even if. If reporting makes you anxious I'd probably find something else to do. You can usually work out what sort of stuff to bother reporting or not by how they're handled by a mod (if they are at all). If certain hings aren't getting handled then it's up to you whether you continue reporting them or not, but giving feedback on every report we don't handle would be a nightmare and take far more time than handling the report in the first place. |
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I hear every now and then that Bitcoin discussion / Trading discussion / Gambling discussion / altcoin discussion (and many others) are considered as spam sections. Like to hear opinion if all the above sections come in the category of spam sections and if so, where do we discuss topics related to gambling, altcoin and general bitcoin discussion ?
Why do we declare these section as spammers heaven when i do find some good discussion going on there (if not all). There are many spam posts too but we cannot say that they are 100% useless post in there.
You discuss the topics in the relevant sections regardless of whether someone has dubbed them 'spam sections' or not, but we can't stop people calling them what they like and people are allowed to have an opinion on that. Most sections are filled with spam to be honest, but some are abused more than others, but nobody is saying all posts in those subs are spam, it's just for every substantial thread it will be swamped by dozens of unsubstantial ones. Until there's repercussions on how signature campaigns can operate here then nothing much will change and people will continue to spam if they can get paid for it. |
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Going to do my predictions today, I will have a good long think about what I put though because I didn’t do too good in the first week. Congrats to hilarious for taking the early lead.
Put them in in advance just so they're there and you don't forget, but as long as you don't lock them you can change them anytime up until kick off. That's what I normally do. Wait for any news during the week or the line-ups to be announced before you commit to anything. I normally like to see what various other pundits and predictors are saying to see if my picks are along the same lines. I usually stick to my own guns but sometimes I may tweak them if everyone else is thinking something different. Swings and roundabouts though. Sometimes you change them and they come in and sometimes the changes cost you points. Some people don't have time to put to much too thought into it or even forget to put their picks in at all and to those I would suggest putting your scores in for the month's games at least and change them if you want when you have time. You can even put the entire seasons picks in now if you wanted. That's one good thing about the superbru site. I wouldn't recommend it but it's better than not putting anything in or for those that are going on holiday or afk or whatever. |
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I think these sorts of cases will be very rare, but they will probably work themselves out. As vod said, exclusions can be made for people who are no longer active
Not everyone is going to revise their trust list which we are seeing from Zepher's case. Over time they likely will and it's not been that long in Zepher's case, but there's also the debate of should feedback from trusted users be excluded because they're no longer active or have died? Imagine if you have a lot of feedback from users who have left the forum for whatever reasons. You could go from being pretty trusted to having little no feedback. You could make the argument that any active member would continue to get feedback from others but not always, especially if you don't do that many trades as you used to and that's why admin intervention may be better in certain cases to remove a specific feedback that's causing an issue, but maybe theymos still doesn't want to get involved in that. How about this? - You must have posted sometime within the last 30 days.
It's one of the criteria of DT1 selection. Theymos can use something like this for someone being in DT2 too. Point is if someone is not active for certain amount of time then despite being in the trust list of DT1, the user will lose their DT2 status. This way their feedback will not reflect as trusted anymore unless they fill up the criteria again. Maybe make the DT2 one with a longer duration. 30 days is ok for DT1 but 30 days for DT2 would seem a little short in my opinion. It's probably not that uncommon for less active users to leave the forum for a month or so. |
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Slow start to the season for me in the pool, 11th out of 26  but remember it’s a marathon & not a sprint  Sure is. I think I started off at the top last season then ended up pretty far down the table by the end of it. I did win one of the other pools before that though. Frank Lampard has always been the bookies favourite for the first manager to be sacked and it wouldn't surprise me if he was. I know it's only the first game and against United but that job is too big for him and far too soon. He should have stuck it out with Derby for another season or so and try to get them promoted. Then try move up. I really wasn't expecting Man U to turn them over like that so went with a draw. Still finished in first place but only by 0.5 point lead . This season will be very tough season for Lampard. It's not worth to judge him after just one game, especially when he didn't had some important players ready to play. Chelsea lost their key player Hazard and due to transfer ban they weren't able to improve squad. Abramovich don't have much patience with managers, so I wouldn't be surprised if Lampard won't end season at Stamford Bridge. And if he will fail in Chelsea, I'm afraid it can't even ruin his career. I know, but these are all reasons why it was a bad idea taking the job. Failure with Chelsea won't ruin his career (unless he maybe gets them relegated or something), but as I said, he should have got some experience elsewhere and maybe proved himself with by doing great things with those teams. I mean, sticking around with Derby and getting them promoted would have been a huge achievement. You never know, they could have gone on to do well in the Premier League which would have further bolster his reputation. Or maybe they'd go straight back down and make it worse . |
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I think these sorts of cases will be very rare, but they will probably work themselves out. As vod said, exclusions can be made for people who are no longer active, but maybe even theymos could step in with the rare cases where someone has died and the issue has been resolved and the feedback can be removed by him if it's silly removing someone just for one feedback, but like I said, it can still be done by current default trust members if the community deems it important enough. Trust feedback is like when someone is been cursed on whether negative or positive way, it keeps on following them till death. In situation like this, the only person that can undo it, is the person that placed it and nobody else. That's why its always advice to do the right thing at all times to avoid been marked upon negatively
People can be forgiven. DT members are added and removed and that can affect a user positively or negatively. |
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Mutd 4:0 Chelsea
Well, congrats, it’s a big solid win for the start od the season
Frank Lampard has always been the bookies favourite for the first manager to be sacked and it wouldn't surprise me if he was. I know it's only the first game and against United but that job is too big for him and far too soon. He should have stuck it out with Derby for another season or so and try to get them promoted. Then try move up. I really wasn't expecting Man U to turn them over like that so went with a draw. Still finished in first place but only by 0.5 point lead . |
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Don't you people think that these posts should be banned already?
No. That would be a form of censorship that would set a very bad precedent here. I hate that term "influencer", which makes me think of idiotic Youtubers who amass tons of followers and think they're gurus of some sort. The folks you mentioned are just blowhards making price predictions, which is kind of standard for many asset classes. That's not something I think ought to be banned, nor do I think Theymos is going to step in. They're silly but they have a right to think what they want about where bitcoin is headed. They belong in speculation. Report them, but I agree most of them are pretty pointless, especially if they're just random figures with no sort of theory or explanation as to why they came to that conclusion.
The whole Speculation section is somewhat pointless, because nobody really knows what the price of bitcoin is going to be in the future. The section ought to instead be called Guesswork, because that's all it is. But as long as that section exists, the guesswork posts will continue. Well I tend to agree. It's just pretty much every configuration of will bitcoin go to x y or z, but lets be honest, the fiat value of bitcoin is probably the biggest factor on why people are interested in bitcoin these days and as long as bitcoin is around people are going to be discussing the price of it. But as long as that section exists, the guesswork posts will continue.
Guessworks will stop if signature be disabled in Speculation board. People will stop making posts in Speculation boards if their posts in that board are not counted for their post-quota due to signature disabled It won't stop but it will significantly decrease. As long as bitcoin has been around people will discuss the price regardless of signature campaign or not. I think many campaigns don't even pay for posts in there either. if it is a user posting those, i don't see any problem as long as they are in speculation board. maybe they are really interested in these self claimed "experts" opinions.
People just want some reassurance. I see it all the time with gamblers. I'm forever seeing twitchy gamblers asking people if they think x team will win or score more than x amount of goals because if they see someone else say what they want to hear it gives them some confidence and faux-reassurance that they're not throwing their money away. Same goes with bitcoin. Some people get a lot more excited when they hear some celebrity or C list amateur economist or investor say bitcoin is going to go to 100k or one million. I mean, it's meaningless because it doesn't actually mean anything but it still gives people that hope for the future that they want. |
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Maybe stupid by Klopp, they must have loads of money after getting two CL Finals in a row. I don’t know why they signed nobody, it seems dumb to me I agree.
Sign who and who do they replace? They've already got one of the best squads in the world. It's not like they probably didn't try either. Teams can't get anyone they want and there's not much point in taking just whoever they can get. It's not as easy as just signing a superstar as not many will want to go to Liverpool if they're going to be benched (and if they're going to start who do they replace from their already very strong team? Liverpool don't really have any weak links imo). Also, Spurs did pretty good last season without any signings (if I remember correctly) and finished fourth, one point behind Chelsea. Liverpool just need to keep doing what they're doing and hope they can do it better than City or hope some other teams take away some points from them. Let me quote it for more visibility. Guys JOIN. The fund already have 0.0819BTC. Be a part of it. It will have 0.1 in it once the sponsorship money comes in. First game is tonight so if anyone wants to join you don't have long left. Only 0.0025 to play and all money is split between the top 5 winners. |
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Initially, it's clear some users have no interest engaging in a discussion, it's just a matter to post "Flash News: Russia did this and that, paragraph, read more here" but there are truly some who are. You can find whole topics of 'normal discussions' (crazy right?). Try to read the same in a Bitcoin discussion topic. I find it hard to force people to add their own thoughts and I doubt it will be better. They will add shitposts, I prefer to read "Flash News: Russia did this and that, paragraph, read more here".
How about making a discussion after the news article share in the OP mandatory then? I love it when the OP aside from sharing the news also discussed the article on hand, it acts a conversation starter on how the thread will go and it simply mitigates the chances of having a free-for-all/post-what-you-want kind of thread. Seems like it would be a faff to enforce. Noticed this user today who's posts are 100% in the Press section posting articles to www.visionary-finance.com without any further comment https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2648997 goozij20 Many of the articles are also just about blockchain and not bitcoin-related. |
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Like wtf guys, do you not believe in freedom of speech?
Stop wasting both of our time and just let people have freedom of speech unless they are clearly a bot spamming and scamming.
So you don't believe in freedom of speech for bots or scammers? One rule for you and one rule for them? Surely scammers should have the freedom to scam? oh nice picture btw, clearly made by a neck beard reddit mod that will never come to terms with himself in the afterlife, always thinking he is better than himself. +1merit It was made by someone who obviously understands freedom of speech. Here's another one for you: But I've read the post @TimeBits at Topic:Posts deleted by moderators:107 repeatedly, but it's still not clear to me what kind of posts are deleted by moderators? (other than those marked). Would you like to see them? Nazi forum 2.0 mods live here, They target people, I can show that to, like 20 post being removed in the same 30 mins.  But I've read the post @TimeBits at Topic:Posts deleted by moderators:107 repeatedly, but it's still not clear to me what kind of posts are deleted by moderators? (other than those marked). Would you like to see them? Nazi forum 2.0 mods live here, They target people, I can show that to, like 20 post being removed in the same 30 mins. Some of the mods here, should just ignore me, just like everyone else that does not like to hear the truth does, living in a delusional world. It's not the mods job to ignore users. It's their job to enforce the rules and handle reports, which there are many that come in against you. The more you mod me here, the more I will mod you on the other side. I promise, I will remove your freedom to speech as you done to me here, heck you keep doing it I may even remove your freedom of thought.
LOL What the actual fuck. I want some of whatever you're smoking. Weed. He's a self-admitted troll but he probably has mental issues as well. Either way I wouldn't entertain him. Dear Creator,
Your posts get deleted because You violate the rules, even in this thread. Please don't send me to the eternal pit of fire though.
Nobody, including You - The Creator, is allowed to post multiple posts one after the other, which you have done in this thread. Read rule #32 of this godforsaken place.
Bingo. As Lucious just said, he's one of those people who wants to make his own rules and yet doesn't understand why they're banned and this isn't the only place he's been banned from:
-guy who used to have 2000-3000 live viewers on his stream making $500-5000 a day(sometimes an hour) then started talking about the banks and got banned from twitch, I do not regret my decision. I may be poor now in "fiat money", but at least I have a soul and have become rich in wisdom, something I can bring to the otherside with me, that is real wealth. I did my goal and planted a lot of mind seeds of liberty in the minds of many young.
I don`t know but whoever banned my old account for talking about time banking/duration distribution/self voting and the end of bitcoin mining and showing a simulation of it 6 years ago, flush them, Fiat loving fuck.
Maybe just read the rules and stop trolling and you'd be fine. You should be permabanned for ban evasion alone and sending threats is also against the rules so knock it off. |
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Then just get rid of the board.
Why not just give someone a shot at moderating it. LeGaulois or o_e_l_e_o or both, 3-month probation. If that doesn't work then kill it. Well if it's to stay then it probably should have its own mod, along with stricter guidelines on what should and shouldn't be posted there. As for allocating new mods only theymos can do that so hopefully he'll make some changed based on this thread. Staff were pretty much in unison that something needs to change with it and if I remember correctly most were in agreement that it was no longer really needed. I used CoinIdol as an example, but I can give others. Like the one telling JP Morgan has created its blockchain & coin. Yes, it's true but it was 2 years ago. Or the one telling Italy started to do x and y, you try to verify but you won't find any other sites reporting this news, you can translate in different languages just in case but you will find nothing! zero!
Altcoin or blockchain articles don't belong there, but that's another issue in that all sorts of alt coin spam and anything vaguely mentioning blockchain also gets posted there. |
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