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1901  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 14, 2013, 02:22:21 AM
can't make up my mind. I recall someone made an idiot 10k buy around $110 about a month ago. What if idiot dumps all at once near same price? might cause mass panic...

anyone else remember that buy?
1902  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 14, 2013, 12:30:02 AM
Ok i change mind. $180 by Friday. Fundamentals are demanding such
1903  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 13, 2013, 10:41:38 PM
wtf is goin on, someone's bot is on catnip
1904  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 13, 2013, 10:03:15 PM
my prev prediction was foolish, i apologize.

new prediction is under $1 by Friday.

Weak hands without Bitcoin has spoken. :-)

You forgot: HE will crash Bitcoin. Just wait a little, there are some little transfer issues, but 1$ this Friday. For sure.

I am not waiting on funds any longer. My finger is on the red-button. I can push whenever.
1905  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 13, 2013, 09:14:25 PM
my prev prediction was foolish, i apologize.

new prediction is under $1 by Friday.
1906  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 13, 2013, 07:33:19 PM
Triple top forming since the first started at the end of July? Third peak on falling volume. Thoughts?

single digits by Friday
1907  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 12, 2013, 10:58:02 PM
Scrutiny by regulatory bodies is bullish because either (1) legit operators emerge with government approval or (2) it becomes clear that the government is unable to control bitcoin.

It is still a prob with we are left with 1 or 2 legit operators but it turns out only ~5% of traders are legit (not involved in illegal stuff).

1 or 2 legit operators is all it will take to open the flood gates to the mainstream

if it is revealed that only a small minority are 'legit' traders and the winklevii are solely responsible for bid-walling (start sept-oct 2012 thru feb 2013), then the mainstream will not give a crap about btc.

silk road and winklevii make bitcoin a juicier story not a smaller one

sure mainstream media, but mainstream-potential-investor will not be interested.
1908  Economy / Speculation / Re: NY regulator issue subpoenas to firms tied to Bitcoin: WSJ on: August 12, 2013, 10:38:51 PM
Well, this IS a problem if bitcoin's backbone is illegal activity. You guys really think the price would be 1/10th of what it is now without the silk road, money laundering and obvious price manipulation? lolol.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

The backbone of the entire banking economy was illegal activity at one point in time. It just got institutionalized.

And so it goes.

the bankers can afford to lobby congress. bitcoiners cannot.

improper analogy.
1909  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 12, 2013, 10:36:47 PM
Scrutiny by regulatory bodies is bullish because either (1) legit operators emerge with government approval or (2) it becomes clear that the government is unable to control bitcoin.

It is still a prob with we are left with 1 or 2 legit operators but it turns out only ~5% of traders are legit (not involved in illegal stuff).

1 or 2 legit operators is all it will take to open the flood gates to the mainstream

if it is revealed that only a small minority are 'legit' traders and the winklevii are solely responsible for bid-walling (start sept-oct 2012 thru feb 2013), then the mainstream will not give a crap about btc.
1910  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 12, 2013, 10:32:35 PM
Scrutiny by regulatory bodies is bullish because either (1) legit operators emerge with government approval or (2) it becomes clear that the government is unable to control bitcoin.

It is still a prob with we are left with 1 or 2 legit operators but it turns out only ~5% of traders are legit (not involved in illegal stuff).
1911  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 12, 2013, 10:30:28 PM
SEC might be just doing the bidding of DHS. There is less than a month until the 12th anniversary of September 11 2001.
Those crazy muslim terrorists may be preparing something, and DHS is trying to cut down money supply routes to
potential terrorists. Unfortunately for the BTC community, BTC can be used to fund terrorism, and honest traders
get caught in the middle. Just a theory of mine...

i have this theory that 'honest' traders are the minority. Prob ~5%. The rest is related to illicit stuff. This will all be revealed by year-end im sure.

lol.

Also, SEC gonna discover winklevii singlehanded bid-walled the price upward before it took off in april. this is common thing to do w/ penny stocks.
1912  Economy / Speculation / Re: NY regulator issue subpoenas to firms tied to Bitcoin: WSJ on: August 12, 2013, 10:25:59 PM
Well, this IS a problem if bitcoin's backbone is illegal activity. You guys really think the price would be 1/10th of what it is now without the silk road, money laundering and obvious price manipulation? lolol.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
1913  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 12, 2013, 10:19:30 PM
criminals getting coins out of the system/market before the SEC storms in

If that is the case would we see those coins drop the price somewhere else?

They may want to exit the 'system' completely for a while. Until it is clear who SEC is after.
1914  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 12, 2013, 09:36:22 PM
criminals getting coins out of the system/market before the SEC storms in
1915  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 12, 2013, 09:23:50 PM
jaro left because i repeated exposed that he is rpetilia. "they" have masses of forum accounts and spam the ignore command on those they dislike.
1916  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 12, 2013, 08:20:46 PM
If you claim anything else, you are tryin' to sell some bullshit.
Listen to this guy - he's an expert bullshit seller so he knows what he's talking about.

i'd love to see him perform a whole page of discussion with his twin brother Jaroslaw but that's perhaps too hard to pull off.
would be a nice paradoxon though.  Cheesy

its the same guy, notice how once this one became active jaroslaw disappeared

You disagree w/ my def'n of stability?
1917  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 12, 2013, 07:12:27 PM
If the recent subpoenas reveal companies are not collecting sufficient information on traders to identify manipulation, money laundering or other nefarious activities, what happens to the price? Do the manipulators and criminals immediately buy btc in attempt to avoid fiat stuck on an exchange? Or, do they try to cash out before the hammer comes down?

Now that at least one US court has found btc to a "security," might the SEC chase down manipulators? Suppose the bot-bullshit comes to an end, or at least restricted. Good or bad for price?
1918  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 12, 2013, 06:28:53 PM
It's not stable if a single whale or small group can crash at will. that's a house of cards.

stability = low volatility + high volume + firm, genuine depth.

If you claim anything else, you are tryin' to sell some bullshit.
1919  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITSTAMP eXchange wall Observer. second biggest and best exchange on: August 12, 2013, 03:52:28 PM
to be 100% perfectly clear:

Operating a business DOES NOT require filing docs with state. Yes, it would be stupid not to file the docs. But lots of idiots don't. Courts have very old common law definition they apply when idiots do not file docs. That def'n has to do with person's activities. Sole source of income or earning livelihood virtually guarantees the court finds you are a business.

If you are treating bitcoin has a hobby or just bought for protection against inflation or to use to buy a goods like a laptop, then you are prob ok. THe gray line is day-trading. If you have no other job and all your income is by trading and that alone.... you might be operating a business. If you have a primary job and day-trading is just something on the side, then you are also prob ok but this is more of a light-gray area.
1920  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITSTAMP eXchange wall Observer. second biggest and best exchange on: August 12, 2013, 03:47:18 PM
You are absolutely wrong but I wish you good luck in court with that "interpretation".  Basically, your "legal" argument is, if an entity doesn't file for a business license, they can buy and sell all the volume they want because they are not actually a "business".  Again, good luck with this argument.  I hope you win and set precedence.  For now, I know it's a delusion.

This is pure LOL. Filing docs are not required for court to determine you operating biz. The reason persons file docs is to recieve additional biz benefits. FOr example liability protections. Make loans easier to get etc.. But courts are aware that lots of ppl try to get away with running businesses without filing docs. lol, they don't get away with it. There is a "common law" definition that courts apply. Also, when idiots operate businesses without filing docs, they don't get lots of statutory protections. You are subject to all the laws without the benefits of protections

lol at the stupidity in this forum. talk to areal lawyer.

I rest my case.  You just undid your own argument.  Fail!  And welcome to my ignore list, you rude little man.   Wink

and i rest my case.

You said "Basically, your "legal" argument is, if an entity doesn't file for a business license, they can buy and sell all the volume they want because they are not actually a "business". "

And that is exactly opposite of what i said.

read fail. You can be found to be a business inadvertently even if you fail to file. as I've said like 20 times now.

this is just too classic.
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