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1901  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: September 25, 2016, 11:12:53 AM
Leganes vs Valencia match already live and the score is 1-1 in the first half. I think many goals will happen on second half, i have live bets over 2.25 goals for this match.
it is 1-2 now , Mario Suarez just scored a goal for valencia ,
a good win if they can keep this score until the end of the game ,
but i doubt valencia can do this, they have a very bad game lately ,
and how about to bet this game will ended draw? seems a good odds .
1902  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to Earn Bitcoin FAST on: September 25, 2016, 10:53:31 AM
of course gambling is the fastest way to get bitcoin. but gambling also is the fastest way to lose all our money. we should be able to choose the appropriate and careful in playing gambling.
don't be greedy saying want to earn bitcoin in very fast way ,
gambling may indeed the fastest way but it is not the good way ,
people nowadays have blinded and lured by this instant game which produce instant money ,
never try to gamble , it will just make your life broken, not even to earn bitcoin fast.
1903  Other / Off-topic / Re: {share} how you get your first 1 btc? on: September 24, 2016, 11:30:47 AM
I think most of us would get our first BTC not because of a single task but a combination of tasks that doesn't actually pay that much. Plenty of us have some money in our Bitcoin wallet from faucets, other people have some from signature campaign, twitter campaign, and other promotion stuffs. Those small amounts of money summed up to make our first 1 BTC.
no , i do believe most people get bitcoin by buying it ,
you think to small , there is a big world out there ,
not just about faucet , promotions and signature campaign which become phenomenon in this forum ,
people more interested in bitcoin investment so they just buy it!
1904  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: September 24, 2016, 11:08:03 AM
If you are trading you should trading as a business any outside this don't work. Don't trading more than ten percent of you capital and since is business don't expect to make profit all time. Keep you eye on your emotion.


10% is what I consider to be quite a low amount for trading purposes. I personally have like 50% of my total wealth in Bitcoin, from which I use 25% for trading purposes, and the other 25% is meant for holding only. Every percentage of profit that I can make per month is more than welcome as I mainly focus on how much I have made after exactly a year period.
not low actually , if he is talking about 10% of your wealth ,
means not capital in bitcoin , if you do invested 20% of your wealth to bitcoin ,
and then 50% of your bitcoin capital are equal to 10% of your total wealth that invested to bitcoin ,
did you get it?
1905  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin rising to 600$ , pure manipulation ? on: September 24, 2016, 10:57:49 AM
If this is not pure manipulation then I don't know what it is , how do you guys explain decreasing back to 599$ in a few hours ?
I'm sure It has nothing to do with Bitfinex as that exchange is pretty much dead for what comes to the trading volume (compared to the old trading volume they had), everyone switched to Poloniex => https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/
even if it was true there is a manipulation , hard to prove it ,
and also they cannot doing this manipulation continuously ,
all i believe in current bitcoin market are there is a possibility to be manipulated ,
it is fine as long as everyone happy? noone have disadvantage here?
1906  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: September 24, 2016, 10:20:34 AM
The safest way to gamble is to limit yourself to a bankroll that you don't mind losing and play with smaller bets to prolong your session, so you can enjoy your time longer. Just have fun and don't go over your limit.
lol to prolong? but you still believe in the end of the game you will just lost it?
it sounds like wasting time isn't it?
why you did not make it simple by making a single high bet and just go away?
all just same , with or without strategy gambling always ended up a losing everyone know it , no safe.
1907  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Becoming a Global Currency on: September 24, 2016, 09:28:13 AM
Lest hope that the bitcoin will become a global currency but we cannot really predict this, I really hope it will happen but we still have to see this.
The bitcoin has a good future so maybe its possible but we still have to see this of course.
for me right now bitcoin have already became a global currency ,
as you can see people around the world Asia, Africa, North America, South America, Antarctica, Europe, and Australia ,
have been used bitcoin!
which mean bitcoin are a global currency!
1908  Other / Off-topic / Re: Where u use bitcoins? on: September 24, 2016, 09:22:02 AM
I use them online only, i don't use them in any real life store as there are no nearby stores that accepts bitcoins, so i can't use them in real life, so i use them in internet only

Yeah that is a major problem we are facing at a moment that we have coins but we are not able to spend them at physical places to buy physical things and I don't see it happening very soon.
you are wrong if you live in US or Netherlands you will able to spend it offline ,
there is a place called bitcoin bouleveard ,
a place where a lot of offline store accept bitcoin ,
so you can buy any physical thing there ,
but if you did not live there just don't worry , create your own marketplace and do a personal deal face to face.
1909  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: September 24, 2016, 08:43:44 AM
i suggest you better buy alt coin or any upgrowing coin in beginning stage, and put it i  cold storage..


you cannot just put an investment to a strange random altcoin ,
will be better to invest on a well-known coin like bitcoin ,
it has a bright future rather than any other cryptocurrency ,
you need to make a reserch , but i can suggest the best altcoin to invest so far are ethereum.
1910  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you put all your money into bitcoin? on: September 24, 2016, 08:24:48 AM
I would put only 10%, because nothing is for sure in crypto, if bitcoin can go up or go down, so if you want to safe your money I don't think you should put all in it. You can't be sure if someday bitcoin may drop considerably in price.
nothing sure , but bitcoin have teach us how sure it is ,
when the price of bitcoin $2 only , few people trust nothing to bitcoin ,
until bitcoin proven itself by go up extremely to 3,000% ,
you should learn from it , and put nothing doubt in bitcoin , invest as much as you can.
You have a point though  and  no  one expects  for bitcoin to rise up like these.  How much more if you bought  bitcoin in just 0.70$  then for sure  you would  have no idea if it rises in the future. Same on the  situation of  us ,as of now  we would still  feel the same thing  which a little  bit hindrance to invest more in bitcoins and thinking  that  it wont   rise   like before back on previous  years.
you just have so much regret did not take a part of being an early adopter ,
i believe everyone will have same feeling too ,
imagine if you put all money you have that time when bitcoin worth $2 only?
so don't miss the chance for the second time! today is the time to keep investing and put your money in bitcoin.
1911  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: September 24, 2016, 08:17:40 AM
Barca to score 3 or more goals
That's my pick for the game,hope it happens
The probability of that happening is 0.Did you even consider the  team they're playing against ? 3 or more goals is total number of goals we would see in the match not one sided definitely.You could see how Atlético Madrid drew the game with their stronng defences.The outcome could be same in this match I believe.
Everything can happen, even something that we couldnt imagine before, thats a common law in sportsbook. I also think that Barca could score at least 3 goals in the game, even tho deep in my heart I really hope they will lose badly lol
barcelona are a team that always score a lot of goals ,
especially when the trio of messi neymar and suarez played ,
these three players always scored , really an amazing forward ,
3 goals easy for them even they play far away from home , they still too strong .
1912  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How do you convince people to use Bitcoin? on: September 24, 2016, 08:11:40 AM
Personally I try to teach it to the people who were in hard need for money. Because one who is already with lots of earning hesitate to take part even if they were insisted with all advancements of digital currency. I used to give some basic knowledge and upon their interest they learn the remaining from various sources.
we cannot teach them everthing yepp ,
they must learn the rest in different way somehow if they really interested ,
as you cannot force someone if they say not interested right?
just explain with a good simple sentence and show them something attractive like lure them with your good profit etc.
Just have to tell them the benefits in using bitcoin and they let them do the rest, if they are interested they will do everything to research on how to use bitcoin, and that thing cannot be teach thru verbal explanation because the procedures are written which are available for everyone.
yepp lure them on how good bitcoin make your life better ,
as the price always go up and you put fiat money on it then you found your investment got doubled ,
or even better , is something like that what you mean?
it is work for a while but the rest mostly people just confused.
1913  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: September 24, 2016, 08:01:43 AM
Arsenal vs Chelsea that is very difficult match for me to predict when both teams are looking into good form, than both teams to score @1.56 will be good choice and I am pretty sure about this pick, this will be helpful for me to get easy make from this match.
no chelsea not really hood in league after lost to liverpool ,
but arsebal they are in really good form ,
i don't think chelsea can do much at emirates stadium today ,
both teams will not score , 2-0 for arsenal .
1914  Economy / Speculation / Re: What did I tell you? BTC will stay down under $600 on: September 23, 2016, 10:56:40 AM
Well then you can be a bitcoin analyst.  You are good in analyzing.  Perhaps if you tell it before many will surely praise and thank you for your good prediction.  Up to now, bitcoin price is still $600 and I do not know when will it goes up.  Some said that 2017 is a bitcoin year.  The price of bitcoin next year will surely kick some butts.

Nah man, just wait a until the end of the year, i'm sure the price of bitcoin will increase on that day. Yes, the price is under $600 now, but it will increase soon.

I also think that the price will increase but of course we still have to see this, the bitcoin is unpredictable.
I really hope on it because it has a great future a head.
a lot of people talking about a stable price of bitcoin recently ,
think that bitcoin will remain at $500 to $600 for long time enough ,
i still cannot believe on this rumour ,
bitcooin should grow as more people expected not just stuck like these days.
1915  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: September 23, 2016, 10:40:49 AM
Trading is good than to investing trading in altcoins is the greatest way to get and earn profits. Investing in what? There are many kind of investing. But if you say investing in bitcoin much better you do trading while waiting the bitcoin price increase. Because you can increase your capital in trading in a short time.
trading and investing are a similar thing , it is just different in term of time ,
while trading rely on short time to get profit , investing rely on long term plan profit ,
i myself choose to do both investing and trading ,
but i do trade much more than trading , because in trading you can make a living , i mean collect your profit in daily basis.

Yeah you can make good profits on daily basis in trading and there is a risk in investing as we never know what future holds for us and our investment may fail which can be a huge loss for us.
our lives are just about risk isn't it? so don't afraid to take a risk ,
go ahead and keep confident on whatever you are doing whether it is trade or invest ,
profit are not the only goal ,
an experience sometimes being more precious rather than anything.
1916  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what fun in GAMBLING? on: September 23, 2016, 09:32:25 AM
Many people in this forum claim that gambling is fun but I never found it "FUN". You are risking you hard earned money on some casino games where the odds are against you. You may win some but you will lose loads because of the House Edge. At the end of the day most of the players may become beggars - thats bad, not "FUN"
not many i guess , only few people who genuinely feel fun in gambling ,
those people who claiming themselves having fun gamble precisely not get a fun ,
they are big mouth and liars ,
gamble not give you any happiness , it is just a sadness.

Sadness may give you in gambling if you are dumb enough to risk all your money with the house advantage. Just play smart with your bankroll and you'll be fine.
lol someone still do it , and one of them have got a nice cash ,
do yolo no matter win or lost they will walk away etc ,
it is not dumb at all , just i think each people have different way to get have fun ,
don't call dumb or smart until you can see the real of you in the mirror.
1917  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How do you convince people to use Bitcoin? on: September 23, 2016, 09:09:02 AM
Personally I try to teach it to the people who were in hard need for money. Because one who is already with lots of earning hesitate to take part even if they were insisted with all advancements of digital currency. I used to give some basic knowledge and upon their interest they learn the remaining from various sources.
we cannot teach them everthing yepp ,
they must learn the rest in different way somehow if they really interested ,
as you cannot force someone if they say not interested right?
just explain with a good simple sentence and show them something attractive like lure them with your good profit etc.
1918  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you put all your money into bitcoin? on: September 23, 2016, 08:53:38 AM
I would put only 10%, because nothing is for sure in crypto, if bitcoin can go up or go down, so if you want to safe your money I don't think you should put all in it. You can't be sure if someday bitcoin may drop considerably in price.
nothing sure , but bitcoin have teach us how sure it is ,
when the price of bitcoin $2 only , few people trust nothing to bitcoin ,
until bitcoin proven itself by go up extremely to 3,000% ,
you should learn from it , and put nothing doubt in bitcoin , invest as much as you can.
1919  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Crypto Coin and Best Trading Site! on: September 23, 2016, 08:38:50 AM
I think it is strange question as best crypto coin is bitcoin for sure, no other coin is popular like bitcoin, and there are many different good trading sites so hard to pick best
Obviously bitcoin is the best crypto currency but we need to check for second and third best to trade against bitcoins. Because, trading bitcoins against fiats is not that much profitable comparing to trading bitcoin against other crypto currencies.

Almost all trading exchanges are similar, but they are having some unique feature with them. Yobit and poloniex are good in my experience.
actually people should have their own research to determine which one altcoin that they will traded ,
we can not say this 'A" altcoin is the best to trade rather than the 'B' altcoin ,
if we do trade the same altcoin at same time and same way , what will happened to market?
also so far poloniex and bittrex leading in the altcoin trading exchange , they have a lot of user and backed by large bitcoin in their cold storage.
1920  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Bitcoins safe? on: September 23, 2016, 08:33:20 AM
Can be used safely, but  I think it depends on the users. The system itself fulfills its  role by providing various security  measures. But the users must take all necessary  precautions to protect their  data and their funds.

Agree, even though most bitcoin wallets has some sort of safety security features there's still some report that users got hacked and lost their bitcoins.
if they did set and follow the standard security they did not to worry ,
as bitcoin itself created to be the most secure payment system ,
the problem are , people did not know well yet about bitcoin ,
they just know about basic of bitcoin that it is as a currency and to invest.
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