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19081  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 10:18:09 PM
Ok Wall Observer's participants...I have a question for you. I came up with this idea last night and am in the process of implementing it. I have had a general go ahead from tptb to ask what you ..the WO think about it.

As many of you are aware Wall Street has many analytical firms out there that just market sentiment. I thought it would be nice to have one for Bitcoin as well and so came up with the Wall Observer Bull/Bearish Index or WOBBI for short. This index would be comprised of FA, TA, Polling, AI sentiment analysis and proprietary algorithms to generate a daily(hourly, anytime you ping it?) index.


What I am wondering is this a good idea? Would it be something you supported? Do you think this would be positive or a negative for the forum in general and this thread in particular? Would you want to help develop or contribute in some way to this idea?

Discuss please.

Thank you.
tc


Sounds like a good idea for anyone willing to put in some work...

Furthermore the chartbuddy replacement seems like a good idea, too, but has not been around for nearly two years, ever since butt hurt Richie_T ran away with his marbles.
19082  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 09:17:04 PM
Well shit. Was just telling my gf over diner not to worry. Then opened http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD
Now hiding Grin

You think you have problems. I installed a bitcoin ticker on the wifes phone a few days ago. She rushed in the door about an hour ago screaming wtf is going on

My gf does it all the time too....’Bitcoin is obviously over, let’s sell everything now’ ..... ‘We should have bought that house for xxxxx outright with no mortgage when it was over $19,000 each’

Fucking women....I tell her to STFU & relax because I know bitcoin will make a lot of us here very wealthy.

I remember telling my GF when Bitcoin hit $100 for the very first time,we watched it live on the computer as it happened - an exciting day for everyone for sure, especially as I bought most of them for $15, then $20 and later $50. The first thing she suggested that I sell them all to take the profit. LOL

O.k.   And that would have been about early 2013.  What did you do, and what have you been doing  the past 5 years?

There have been a lot of dips, lots of opportunities to sell and to rebuy and to either make or lose money.  What has been your approach?  How many times have you been tricked out of your coins in the past 5 years?



I first got around to buying Bitcoin in August 2012 because I wanted shares in Asicminer, since then it's been a bit of a wild ride.

Asicminer share trading was shut down for a long time due to it being an 'illegal security' but it came back and they made good on everything they promised. It took a while, can't remember how long.

I got badly goxxed and am still caught up in the MtGox saga as a creditor.

It looks like we will most probably eventually get our share of the coins which are left due to the recent civil rehabilitation developments. For those who don't know - civil rehabilitation was not rejected which is a major step towards it happening, it was rejected a few years back.

I often dabbled with different altcoins, but I've spent several years where I didn't touch crypto at all.

I cashed a bunch out years back as well - more than I ever put in....

Thanks for overviewing some of your background motivations and experiences.

Sometimes retrospect can be 20/20, and there are a lot of folks who say, we should have done x, y or z - but surely the better plans are to attempt to figure out something that works and to tweak along the way.  As an example, currently, the we should have sold at $20k is a bit tiring and also a factor that should NOT be causing reasonable BTC hodlers to sell now, even though it could be a consideration for how to approach future price movements.

Regarding GOX:  Even though I had already started buying BTC before the 2/2014 Gox shutdown, I don't think that I gave it a lot of significance at the time that it happened - even though it was a really BIG losing of coins for the overall space, and moreso for the various individuals who may have had decent portions of their own stash in that one location. 

I think in retrospect, I am coming to realize that the GOX event was more significant than my then attributions of it.  Further, I do understand that any GOXing or otherwise feeling screwed over by some narrow set of events- including some folks who may have gotten hacked or made some presumptuous but losing margin bets, these kinds of events may cause the taking of a lesser position in the space.. and then 20/20 wished that they would have taken a stronger position.

Overall, we can learn from our experiences, even if negative, and having to decide how to proceed from here... not getting discouraged by some of our historical bad happenings, which we are all likely to have, especially the longer that we are involved the space.
19083  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 08:20:38 PM
Well shit. Was just telling my gf over diner not to worry. Then opened http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD
Now hiding Grin

You think you have problems. I installed a bitcoin ticker on the wifes phone a few days ago. She rushed in the door about an hour ago screaming wtf is going on

My gf does it all the time too....’Bitcoin is obviously over, let’s sell everything now’ ..... ‘We should have bought that house for xxxxx outright with no mortgage when it was over $19,000 each’

Fucking women....I tell her to STFU & relax because I know bitcoin will make a lot of us here very wealthy.

I remember telling my GF when Bitcoin hit $100 for the very first time,we watched it live on the computer as it happened - an exciting day for everyone for sure, especially as I bought most of them for $15, then $20 and later $50. The first thing she suggested that I sell them all to take the profit. LOL

O.k.   And that would have been about early 2013.  What did you do, and what have you been doing  the past 5 years?

There have been a lot of dips, lots of opportunities to sell and to rebuy and to either make or lose money.  What has been your approach?  How many times have you been tricked out of your coins in the past 5 years?

19084  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 08:11:22 PM
""""because I know bitcoin will make a lot of us here very wealthy"""   this is the biggest problem of all crypto

Selfish ego maniacs around  the world..  .... who are also present here with "legendary" acc.. 

Its just another "wallstreet" on stereoids. just another generation of psychopaths able to do everything for money without work.... now they sit in rooms in t-shorts

Crypto  is last chance for all this  ****   .. after will be only "bum bum"

Your generalization is a bit much, no?

There are some folks who put all their eggs into crypto, but that is a pretty fucking small minority, even folks in these threads do not necessarily put all their eggs into crypto.

Regarding getting rich and strategy, yes, bitcoin has proven to be a pretty wise investment relative to other assets.  Even though historical performance does not establish future results, there remain really decent signs that putting a decent amount of investment into bitcoin is going to continue to provide decent future performance value.  Nothing is guaranteed, but if you know about bitcoin, then it seem prudent to have some of your value in it.
19085  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 07:01:56 PM
Well shit. Was just telling my gf over diner not to worry. Then opened http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD
Now hiding Grin

You think you have problems. I installed a bitcoin ticker on the wifes phone a few days ago. She rushed in the door about an hour ago screaming wtf is going on

I feel your pain my friend Grin


Reminds me of this earlier thread of posts:

19086  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 06:58:03 PM
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Regarding my personal strategy, I have not been shy of sharing it through my more than 4 years in bitcoin as I have employed the strategy and how I have tweaked the strategy over the years.

So get the fuck out of here with your assertion that I am merely blindly holding or that I am a bag holder...


If you are 4 years in Bitcoin, you should be at least millionaire by now. Why are you discussing at crap level in the internet then? Just hire a hitman on that guy for pocket money Wink


This forum can be used as a means to discuss various strategies when it comes to bitcoin investing - looking at short term or long term price dynamics, and of course from time to time, people are going to differ in their opinion and their approach.. some will be more and some will be less profitable, including strategies that might start out with greater or lesser levels of capitalization.

Some folks participate in this thread because they are trying to create price effect, rather than merely reading the effects, and some folks here find that kind of behavior annoying.

My buying and trading of BTC strategy has been doing pretty well for me, but I am still ready, willing and able to learn from others, and willing to share information about my strategies and experiences, too...

I <3 your avatar text...


I am actually around 2 to 3% too, yet I think that I am creating a bit of a trick question with the concept of "needed" since there are so many alt coin pumpers who try to suggest diversification within crypto is "needed" .. but really they are frequently diluting their bitcoin holdings with a bunch of shit.

Exactly, as out of app. 500 billion cap of all crypto, BTC has app 170 billion share at the moment. Imagine all those alts weren't existed at all and BTC would be much more worth in value.

Would like to see that calc if someone can offer?

And one other thing, please don't throw up, saw somewhere ICO market cap is currently 9 billion (all above in $US)...

I am not really against investing in various alts or ICOs; however, I think that one of my BIG beefs and motivation for my slogan is that a lot of peeps seem to get misled into some kind of crypto diversification approach right from the start of their investment, and they don't know shit about anything that they are investing into and just throwing wet noodles at the wall and hoping that some of them stick.

So, in fact, if you know how to focus, then you might be able to choose a few alts and do really well for yourself in the short term, but if you are blindly investing, and you don't really know, then it is likely better to start with dollar cost averaging into bitcoin first.  Study up on it, and maybe diversify later, if you believe it could be helpful to you, and probably not with a large percentage - but instead keeping the vast majority in bitcoin.

A lot will depend on the individual, including the extent to which the individual has traditional investments, and also age plays some role too, even though youthfulness should still not give a complete license to being overly risky (though youthfulness does allow for some additional risks with the understanding that you have more time to make up for any shortfalls that might happen with risky investments that did not turn out good - but the goal should still be attempting to invest in profitable assets when possible and to attempt to learn how to do it better for your own situation rather than an initial blindness that might be true for most crypto newbies). 
19087  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 06:36:43 PM
Quote
Regarding my personal strategy, I have not been shy of sharing it through my more than 4 years in bitcoin as I have employed the strategy and how I have tweaked the strategy over the years.

So get the fuck out of here with your assertion that I am merely blindly holding or that I am a bag holder...


If you are 4 years in Bitcoin, you should be at least millionaire by now. Why are you discussing at crap level in the internet then? Just hire a hitman on that guy for pocket money Wink


This forum can be used as a means to discuss various strategies when it comes to bitcoin investing - looking at short term or long term price dynamics, and of course from time to time, people are going to differ in their opinion and their approach.. some will be more and some will be less profitable, including strategies that might start out with greater or lesser levels of capitalization.

Some folks participate in this thread because they are trying to create price effect, rather than merely reading the effects, and some folks here find that kind of behavior annoying.

My buying and trading of BTC strategy has been doing pretty well for me, but I am still ready, willing and able to learn from others, and willing to share information about my strategies and experiences, too...

I <3 your avatar text...


I am actually around 2 to 3% too, yet I think that I am creating a bit of a trick question with the concept of "needed" since there are so many alt coin pumpers who try to suggest diversification within crypto is "needed" .. but really they are frequently diluting their bitcoin holdings with a bunch of shit.
19088  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 06:31:40 PM
Someone warned me about BTC in December.  He stated that the big boys (wallstreet) want in the action therefore BTC no longer represents freedom; it will be manipulated like Gold, Silver, he predicted!
I am starting to believe this theory.   Angry

Sounds like someone who does not know how to differentiate regarding what is bitcoin, and is grasping at straws with false analogies.  In other words, just making shit up.. because he has seen such happening before.
19089  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 06:15:41 PM
[edited out]


Well here is a quote from you the day of the start of the crash Dec 17th 2017.  You accuse me off being a fudster, and that I can lose people money by calling it one way.  Just because my outlook is different from yours.

Don't do that... just as much as you seem to be a blind believer, I will always be slightly skeptical, and will always be bearish for long periods, that's just the way I am built, personality wise, and if you're honest, I bet you are an optimist personality wise.  I also see the potential pitfalls of bitcoin, and really don't trust that it's invincible, and because of the way I am I will focus on those.  Just because you think my best guess of 3k or 4k at some point in the not too distant future is not realistic you call it FUD.  

It's not FUD, it's an informed opinion, i'm just sharing my ideas in the similar way you have way you have.  I advised many friends who were very eager to buy around 15 - 19k not too, I have saved them a fuck ton.


just 2 things on you comment from back then.  those getting REKT will have got destroyed with just a small change of price (Either direction), it's nothing more than gambling at those leverages.  And whether or not there was a long term or short term crash, it crashed all the same to 30% of ATH.  you're inferring in your statement that to short at almost 20k was a bad idea... well it was a pretty smart move.

don't call me a fudster just because you don't like my take on the situation or because i have been wrong in the past, because so have you.

Get the fuck out of here you fucking goofball disingenuous FUDster, bringing up a supposed three month old conversation that I barely even recall, and if we did have such a communication, I sure that we can rely on your representations.... NOT....

If you do not recall I don't fucking predict the market except perhaps to say 50% this way or 60% if I am feeling confident.

I don't really give blind or blanket advice, but I do recommend that peeps figure out strategies that work for themselves and they tailor for themselves, and they try to plan ahead because some strategies seem to work better than others.

 I recommend a similar strategy no matter what the price, which is a kind of dollar cost averaging buy on the way down and sell on the way up... Of course, you can tweak any strategy here and there, but any strategy depends on personal circumstances and if the person has any stake at all in BTC or has been in BTC for several years...

So get the fuck out of here if you are trying to suggest that I am telling folks to buy on the way up or some other out of context bullshit that you are striving to attribute to me with your ongoing shitty ass assertion that "will probably" go to $3k without any kind of substantiation beyond hopium and throwing darts, perhaps.
19090  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 06:01:54 PM
Quote
Regarding my personal strategy, I have not been shy of sharing it through my more than 4 years in bitcoin as I have employed the strategy and how I have tweaked the strategy over the years.

So get the fuck out of here with your assertion that I am merely blindly holding or that I am a bag holder...


If you are 4 years in Bitcoin, you should be at least millionaire by now. Why are you discussing at crap level in the internet then? Just hire a hitman on that guy for pocket money Wink


This forum can be used as a means to discuss various strategies when it comes to bitcoin investing - looking at short term or long term price dynamics, and of course from time to time, people are going to differ in their opinion and their approach.. some will be more and some will be less profitable, including strategies that might start out with greater or lesser levels of capitalization.

Some folks participate in this thread because they are trying to create price effect, rather than merely reading the effects, and some folks here find that kind of behavior annoying.

My buying and trading of BTC strategy has been doing pretty well for me, but I am still ready, willing and able to learn from others, and willing to share information about my strategies and experiences, too...
19091  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 08:41:58 AM

Get the fuck out of here.

You have not made any kind of meaningful response except for implying that we are in a early 2014 rather than an early 2013 type of situation, and you have not even stated that, so I am giving you goofball FUD spreader the benefit of the doubt about what you are claiming exactly beyond mere proclamations.

Regarding my personal strategy, I have not been shy of sharing it through my more than 4 years in bitcoin as I have employed the strategy and how I have tweaked the strategy over the years.

So get the fuck out of here with your assertion that I am merely blindly holding or that I am a bag holder...

Consider the whole matter in context, and I would assert that blindly following some nonsense like your assertion is likely going to cause people to sacrifice coins...


Which coins USD or BTC?

Stop pursuing technical one-liner interrogations, and attempting to imply that you are some kind of all-knowing expert who only speaks in conclusions.  Why don't your respond to what I am saying, and provide some substance, but instead you want to act as if you know something and you don't know shit. 

You should well realize that if people are investing then they are trying to maximize their Bitcoins, so of course, they sell bitcoins in order to acquire more bitcoins.  But whatever, you are not really  wanting to engage in any kind of meaningful discussion except for your supposed insightful hopium driven prediction that bitcoin "probably will" drop to $3k in the near future, right?

i already explained why i assume the price could go as low as 3k based on previous 2 ATH dropping to 15% of peak.  As i already stated i don't care where the price goes as long as i make good choices.  On my last trade this time i sold on 5th at 11500, happy to buy back when the time is right by my best guess.  Yes it's all guess work, based on the best info i have, and -probably- by my best estimation the bear market is not over yet.  

I also assume when you speak about the S curve you mean a lower case s



I have not mentioned s-curve recently.  Either you are a bot creating automated responses or you are getting me mixed up with someone else. 

Sounds to me that part of your objective is to post in order to try to push the price down since you already sold, and therefore you are talking your book.

In regards to my book, if you have never really read my posts, my practice is to buy as the price goes down and to sell as the price goes up.  So I have buy orders already set nearly down to $3k; however, like I already said, I am not very optimistic about them filling on this particular correction.  So, if i were going to sell, I have mostly already done it, but I don't really care that much which way that the price goes in the short term, even though I am assuming that in the long term it is quite likely to go up... but even if it only goes up a little bit that is fine with me.  Any kind of s-curve adoption, as you suggest would surely be icing on the cake since I have already established decent profits even if BTC prices do not go up very much.
19092  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 08:15:59 AM
Go Tim Draper, go.
"We haven't even found the tip of the ice berg", "This is the most exited I have ever been as an investor, and I was right there at the beginning of the Internet"

https://twitter.com/CNBCFastMoney/status/971151947880419331

Yet we can't even break 12k and I don't see this changing anytime soon.

When traders are taking their profits each time we reach 12k how should we ever exceed 12k?

Maybe you need to zoom out a little bit to understand context?
19093  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 07:50:53 AM

Get the fuck out of here.

You have not made any kind of meaningful response except for implying that we are in a early 2014 rather than an early 2013 type of situation, and you have not even stated that, so I am giving you goofball FUD spreader the benefit of the doubt about what you are claiming exactly beyond mere proclamations.

Regarding my personal strategy, I have not been shy of sharing it through my more than 4 years in bitcoin as I have employed the strategy and how I have tweaked the strategy over the years.

So get the fuck out of here with your assertion that I am merely blindly holding or that I am a bag holder...

Consider the whole matter in context, and I would assert that blindly following some nonsense like your assertion is likely going to cause people to sacrifice coins...


Which coins USD or BTC?

Stop pursuing technical one-liner interrogations, and attempting to imply that you are some kind of all-knowing expert who only speaks in conclusions.  Why don't your respond to what I am saying, and provide some substance, but instead you want to act as if you know something and you don't know shit. 

You should well realize that if people are investing then they are trying to maximize their Bitcoins, so of course, they sell bitcoins in order to acquire more bitcoins.  But whatever, you are not really  wanting to engage in any kind of meaningful discussion except for your supposed insightful hopium driven prediction that bitcoin "probably will" drop to $3k in the near future, right?
19094  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 07:20:22 AM
Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??
What do you mean keeping prices "Down"? The prices are outrageously high.


So this actual price is high for you? Come on your lying to your self we reached $20k dollars
Why keep the price down again this is the 3 ore 4 time we reached €9.5k And then again down..

I want to know Why with good information


human emotion, greed & fear mainly with some help from manipulation... before the $20k peak the last was in 2013 with new ATH of $1200 the low $160, the same year the previous was $260 with $40 lows.  

a low of 15% of the ATH happens frequently.  Now tell me why it can't hit 3k?

Just because it can hit $3k does not mean that it will.

but it probably will.

Probably will, that is a pretty fucking strong statement.

To me, "probably will" means greater than 50% odds, and I will ballpark assert my doubts that you have greater than 30% odds on $3k coming true in this particular correction.  We already had 70%... so you believe that there is a decent chance of eeking out an additional 15% to bring us to 85%, but we are going to have to break several areas of support first... first of all getting below $10k, then every $1k lower is going to pose some support... and perhaps if we get below the support at $7,500 then there would be a decent shot at $5k... but we gotta get there first, so you seem to be quite premature with your "probably will" assertion... and sure I have seen your FUDster bearish (and wrong) proclamations in the past, so maybe you will get lucky this time, but the odds seem to be pretty heavy against your asserted "probably will" expectations (if you even believe it yourself?).

keep holding then,  i couldn't care less what happens to the price, i will react as best I can to the changes.  and "probably will " is based on bitcoins history.

and youre one of the biggest FUDsters there is.  you were apparently a bag holder for 3.5 years.

Get the fuck out of here.

You have not made any kind of meaningful response except for implying that we are in a early 2014 rather than an early 2013 type of situation, and you have not even stated that, so I am giving you goofball FUD spreader the benefit of the doubt about what you are claiming exactly beyond mere proclamations.

Regarding my personal strategy, I have not been shy of sharing it through my more than 4 years in bitcoin as I have employed the strategy and how I have tweaked the strategy over the years.

So get the fuck out of here with your assertion that I am merely blindly holding or that I am a bag holder...

Consider the whole matter in context, and I would assert that blindly following some nonsense like your assertion is likely going to cause people to sacrifice coins...
19095  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 07:05:44 AM
Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??
What do you mean keeping prices "Down"? The prices are outrageously high.


So this actual price is high for you? Come on your lying to your self we reached $20k dollars
Why keep the price down again this is the 3 ore 4 time we reached €9.5k And then again down..

I want to know Why with good information


human emotion, greed & fear mainly with some help from manipulation... before the $20k peak the last was in 2013 with new ATH of $1200 the low $160, the same year the previous was $260 with $40 lows.  

a low of 15% of the ATH happens frequently.  Now tell me why it can't hit 3k?

Just because it can hit $3k does not mean that it will.

but it probably will.

"Probably will," that is a pretty fucking strong statement.

To me, "probably will" means greater than 50% odds, and I will ballpark assert my doubts that you have greater than 30% odds on $3k coming true in this particular correction.  

We already had a 70% correction down from $19,666 to $5,920... so you believe that there is a decent chance of eeking out an additional 15% to bring us to 85% of $3k, but we are going to have to break several areas of support before that even becomes a reasonable proposition... no?

First of all getting below $10k, then every $1k lower is going to pose some support that needs to be broken through... and perhaps if we get below the support at $7,500 then there would be a decent shot at $5k... but we gotta past a few support areas first, so you seem to be quite premature with your "probably will" assertion...

And sure I have seen your FUDster bearish (and wrong) proclamations in this thread past, so maybe you will get lucky this time.. perhaps, perhaps, but perhaps not, too....?    The odds seem to be pretty heavy against your asserted "probably will" expectations (even assuming that you even believe it yourself?).   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
19096  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 06:59:18 AM
<person>  seems to have a lot of anger, which is also inconsistent with someone who has truly invented a paradigm changing system....

Just as a question, why do you think that B follows A?

<blah, blah, blah>

Sorry for the redaction, but your reply had nothing to do with my question. You'll note that I de-personified the inquiry, yet you seem to be determined to talk about CSW.

Why do you think that angry people don't invent paradigm changing systems?

Don't be ridiculous.  I am making no such claim. 

Bullshit. It is part and parcel of the claim you are making. Shall I requote your scrawlings which are clearly discernable above?


I am telling your that I am not making any such claims, so it does not matter what you can quote, .... you are attempting to distract with nonsense.



seems to have a lot of anger, which is also inconsistent with someone who has truly invented a paradigm changing system....

Those are your words, bucko. Not mine. So again I ask: what makes you claim that angry people don't invent paradigm changing systems?

Get the fuck out of here.  I already responded... so you repeating with the same questions that I already answered.

Can you find some other funzies?

Are your orders not filling fast enough, and you are trying to find a new hobby to spread more nonsense and to distract from claims and to assert that peeps (yours truly) is claiming something that is not being claimed?   Helrow goofy bear.   Roll Eyes Tongue
19097  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 06:54:57 AM
Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??
What do you mean keeping prices "Down"? The prices are outrageously high.


So this actual price is high for you? Come on your lying to your self we reached $20k dollars
Why keep the price down again this is the 3 ore 4 time we reached €9.5k And then again down..

I want to know Why with good information


human emotion, greed & fear mainly with some help from manipulation... before the $20k peak the last was in 2013 with new ATH of $1200 the low $160, the same year the previous was $260 with $40 lows.  

a low of 15% of the ATH happens frequently.  Now tell me why it can't hit 3k?

Just because it can hit $3k does not mean that it will.
19098  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 06:39:20 AM
Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??
What do you mean keeping prices "Down"? The prices are outrageously high.


So this actual price is high for you? Come on your lying to your self we reached $20k dollars
Why keep the price down again this is the 3 ore 4 time we reached €9.5k And then again down..

I want to know Why with good information

The good information is that the bearwhales  are going to attempt to shake as many weak hands as they can... and if they can get the price to go down, then they are going to do it.. they are going to do it and do it and do it and do it, until they do not have a choice, and at that point the price is going to go up.  So, yeah, if they can shake you and Rosewater, and BMB and a few others, then they gonna do it... and sometimes it is not clear if they can do it but they are going to keep trying until they do not have a choice and the price goes up, after all the weak hands are weeded out and confidence is lost.. and it is seeming that we are not quite there (ready for up), yet.
19099  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2018, 06:33:54 AM
<person>  seems to have a lot of anger, which is also inconsistent with someone who has truly invented a paradigm changing system....

Just as a question, why do you think that B follows A?

<blah, blah, blah>

Sorry for the redaction, but your reply had nothing to do with my question. You'll note that I de-personified the inquiry, yet you seem to be determined to talk about CSW.

Why do you think that angry people don't invent paradigm changing systems?

Don't be ridiculous.  I am making no such claim.  This subject matter is completely about the absurdities of that nutjob craig wright, and i could give a ratt's ass about his person...

He made a stupid ass claim that he is satoshi, and he did not provide evidence or logic to support such claim, and then some people, including searing, apparently, still believe that the claim could be true...

so don't be trying to make this some kind of claim about what I think... about who could be or could not be satoshi.. because I could care less who is satoshi and he is likely dead for all intents and purposes... and this stupid ass imposture craig wright is trying to take advantage of a vacuum by inserting his slimy dishonest mug into the space.. while you sit around supporting him by distracting from the situation with some kind of lame attempt to "impersonalize' the argument and to distract from what is going on... just like you do with the bcash nonsense...

oh wait,? they are all part of the same camp and if you can spread fud about craig wright being satoshi, then maybe you can get some dumbass newbes to buy some of your shitcoins, too? 
19100  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: March 07, 2018, 06:04:09 AM
Do we have a merit removal option if I was mistaken giving merit to someone?

I tried to search, but I couldn't find any removal button as of now. I hope that admin added this option so that if someone gives merit to the wrong person they can be able to remove the merit.

Merits are not reversible... when you go to send an smerit(s) to someone, there is a note below the sending of the smerit saying, "This cannot be undone!" which means that the sending of the smerit is not reversible, once you send the smerit, the merit is forever received by the recipient, and forever subtracted from your smerit bank... 

The warning seems pretty clear and unambiguous, and it even has the exclamation mark in it... which serves as a kind of emphasis, I suppose.
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