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19141  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 06, 2018, 12:09:39 AM
amendments are changes to the constitution

Aren't they ad ons to the constitution?
I realize that they can change the meaning of the constitution, but can the actual wording of the constitution be altered?

Yes and yes.  An amendment can delete part of the Constitution in an additive way. For example, a Constitutional amendment could be added that repeals the federal Senate and all clauses of the Constitution in relation to the Senate. From that day forward, the Senate would be deleted.

Technically you are adding another layer, but new layers can change old layers.  The most extreme example would be a Constitutional amendment that repeals the Constitution itself, at which point the whole thing disappears in a puff of smoke.

But wouldn't those amendments be unconstitutional and be repealed by the supreme court?

You seem to fail or refuse to understand the basic concept of an amendment, Arriemoller.

The amendment becomes a part of the document itself, even if such amendment was subsequently created (and added on).  The language of the amendment has the same power of law as the original document, even if their are a bunch of nonsensical whining fucks that say that we should go back to the original document, it does not matter, the original document is water under the bridge, and the new document with the amendments replace the old document and have the full power of the original document with the new language.  In essence the amendments could completely repeal the whole original document and have their own new meaning and significance that completely contradicts the original document, but the amendments would have the whole force of the original (or maybe even more powerful, depending upon the chosen (agreed to) language).

19142  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 05, 2018, 11:58:46 PM
What evidence do you have to offer that the world is a globe spinning through "space"

The burden of proof of logic and empirical evidence is for the flat earthers to prove that the earth is flat... not the other way around.  They have to prove and rebutt a vast majority of evidence that is way too broad to go into and seems to have already been beaten to death in the more than 500 pages of this thread.

A more interesting question (or topic) involves whether there has been any manned moon landings...

The flat earth discussion is just a BIG ASS waste of time, and has little connection with actual science, math, logic, common sense and/or empirical evidence.
19143  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 05, 2018, 11:40:52 PM
amendments are changes to the constitution
Psst..have to cryptospeak around these parts..

The original Constitution is made up of 7 articles and it is like the genesis block. Amendments are "consensus" based blocks added over time that form the framework that is the United States. This chain can be forked under certain conditions described by Hairy somewhere previously in this thread I believe.


US constitution has been hardforked how many times?
I want US Classic. Not these amended altcoin constitutions.


Don't be retarded.


Nobody gives a shit what you want. 

Instead, it is much more healthy to attempt and navigate and accept what is there rather than whining about the so many ways in your narrow opinion that what is there is not perfect.   Roll Eyes
19144  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 05, 2018, 11:33:41 PM
Well sheeit. Looks like I'm gonna have to make me some popcorn.

Things are starting to look interesting.



You sound like you are getting prematurely excited.


Slow your fucking roll. Can't rush these things. They just have to happen on their own, man.

Give it a bit more time, k ?  Kiss

We certainly would NOT want premature excitation from any of "we"s   - because, then, "accidents happen."
19145  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 05, 2018, 11:25:39 PM
Accumulation is happening again. But note that at these price levels, this accumulation could go on for a very long time.

You guys may die of complete boredom in the interim.



What timeframe are you talking about here? Months? Years?

Could be 8 months to a year. Note that I'm not saying the price won't move up during that timeframe, but just don't expect another 5x or 10x in 3-5 months. We'd be lucky to be back to $20k by year end. A gradual +5-8%/month is probably more like it.

The only thing that could rapidly change the game at this point, is something uber bullish like an ETF approval. I don't feel like that has been "priced in" yet.


WAT???


You were making a similar claim last year around this time, when you were predicting approximately $1,800 for the end of 2017 (best case scenario).  Seems like your bull dynamics compass could be "a bit" off with your conservative projections Roll Eyes, no? 
19146  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 05, 2018, 11:19:48 PM
^^^ I never thought these levels of cognitive dissonance could be possible.


Literally claiming a video of somebody documenting evidence is "create your own reality".



hahahahahahahaha


As if you are some kind of expert about what constitutes good evidence?  


NOT


Just your topical conclusion in this thread, and your three year 536 page persistence in this nonsensical theme seems to establish that you are a contra-indicator to what constitutes good evidence.  
19147  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 05, 2018, 11:12:36 PM
Accumulation is happening again. But note that at these price levels, this accumulation could go on for a very long time.

You guys may die of complete boredom in the interim.


But I want my Lambo noooooooooowww!




If you spent around $10k on bitcoins any time between late 2014 and early 2016 at below $500 (let's say average price per BTC was about $500), then you would have 20 BTC - seems like enough for a Lambo.

On the other hand, I think that it would NOT be very wise to buy a Lambo unless you have at least 100BTC (so if you have at least 100BTC, then you would be spending less than 20% of your bitcoin holdings on a Lambo).  On the other hand (I think that is enough hands for now), if you think that you are going to die soon (within the next year or two), then who cares, you need to have funzies while you are still living... and spend your bitcoins and buy the depreciating Lambo - even if you only have 20 BTC-ish or even less.

That's my NOT SO GOOD advices for the day.   Tongue     Wink     Cheesy
19148  Economy / Gambling / Re: Proving that my gambling script works. on: March 05, 2018, 05:39:51 PM
If I'm not mistaken, it was one of my very first replies where I stated it to be EV-

Yet you insisted - and you still do! - that it's profitable in short term, once a day, math doesn't apply to it, and other bullshit like that. Nice backpedaling, not going to work though. You're a genuine, honest-to-God, bona fide scammer.


YOU are completely wrong, suchmoon.


Since math "mumbo" jumpo does not apply to alia, s/he/it is 110% scammer...   more than genuine and more than bona fide.  Just MOAR than more.   Shocked
19149  Economy / Gambling / Re: I’m not you, Alia. And you still can’t have your cake and eat it, too. on: March 05, 2018, 06:15:44 AM
[edited out]

If I am a "scammer" as so many claim (even though I kept my side of the contract when aTriz didn't), then why are you wasting time on me?

1) Huh?  If there was a contractual reason for a refund to aTriz, and you lived up to your contractual obligation to make that refund, then that reflects well upon you, but it does not in any way prove that aTriz was either in breach of his side of that contract or otherwise non-compliant with his obligations in that contract.  You are making a ridiculous conclusion to assert merely because you decided to give the refund in compliance with contractual obligations that you had, and therefore your seemingly compliant acts somehow help to establish in any way that aTriz was in breach of the contract or that there were any other facts to establish that aTriz was in breach of that particular contract.

2) you are correct that currently communicating with you regarding these various subjects of your not so stellar reputation and the gambling script does seem to be a bit of a waste of time; however, sometimes even trolls leave loose ends in threads (and on forums) that need to be cleaned up, and sometimes, it can still be in the public interest to respond to some of the disingenuous points, even when being made by a troll.  In your case, even if you might not be a troll exactly, we are seeming to run into a lot of repetition here in this thread, and there does not seem to be too many more points to address with you.  Maybe at some point mods will force close this thread, because the level of information being shared herein seems to be devolving into confusion and perhaps disinformation, rather than any kind of information that would be helpful to anyone.

I did not refund him because of a tingling in my vag. He stated that he will no longer continue payments (thus breaking the contract) and I refunded him out of goodwill.

It does not work like that, alia.  Let's assume, for hypothetical sake, that aTriz said that he intended not to pay you anymore, yet he had already paid you for five months in advance.   I doubt that you can call intention to breach as the same as an actual breach, so if you are asserting that his assertion that he was not going to pay you anymore, 4 months down the road rises to a breach, then you are going to be hard-pressed to find anyone willing to agree with you that there would be any breach until 4 months down the road, assuming that he did not pay you at that time... anyhow, you should understand that if there were going to be a breach from aTriz, then such breach would have begun upon non-payment 4 months down the road rather than his statement of such intention.   

I don't know if we need to say anything more, there were some arguments asserting that you should pay him back, and you agreed to do so, while bitching about it the whole time as you sent your 1 satoshi per byte payment that ended up still going through pretty quickly.  What else we need to be saying on that topic, except that you seem to be arguing non-existent facts, or alternatively some pie in the sky breach of contract theory based on statement of intention rather than any actual breach.
19150  Economy / Gambling / Re: I’m not you, Alia. And you still can’t have your cake and eat it, too. on: March 05, 2018, 05:39:22 AM
[edited out]

If I am a "scammer" as so many claim (even though I kept my side of the contract when aTriz didn't), then why are you wasting time on me?

1) Huh?  If there was a contractual reason for a refund to aTriz, and you lived up to your contractual obligation to make that refund, then that reflects well upon you, but it does not in any way prove that aTriz was either in breach of his side of that contract or otherwise non-compliant with his obligations in that contract.  You are making a ridiculous conclusion to assert merely because you decided to give the refund in compliance with contractual obligations that you had, and therefore your seemingly compliant acts somehow help to establish in any way that aTriz was in breach of the contract or that there were any other facts to establish that aTriz was in breach of that particular contract.

2) you are correct that currently communicating with you regarding these various subjects of your not so stellar reputation and the gambling script does seem to be a bit of a waste of time; however, sometimes even trolls leave loose ends in threads (and on forums) that need to be cleaned up, and sometimes, it can still be in the public interest to respond to some of the disingenuous points, even when being made by a troll.  In your case, even if you might not be a troll exactly, we are seeming to run into a lot of repetition here in this thread, and there does not seem to be too many more points to address with you.  Maybe at some point mods will force close this thread, because the level of information being shared herein seems to be devolving into confusion and perhaps disinformation, rather than any kind of information that would be helpful to anyone.
19151  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 05, 2018, 04:14:28 AM
Is this the assault on the neckline of the right shoulder on the iH&S everyone has been watching?

-edit- BTW, sorry to interrupt the gun talk... lol-

Stamp spiked up to $11395. If it can get above $11400 before Monday the post weekend pump could push it above $11500.

No need to get excited unless it breaks above $12k

It's getting closer to $12k. Is it time to get excited yet?


Going up is NOT bad news   - yet, I personally think that breaking ABOVE $12k, is the reasonable start to get excited point.

I am all for getting excited... I want to get excited, too.... however, too frequently guys (and gal) here in this thread are getting overly excited over small price moves up and down, and we continue to consolidate.. with seemingly $12k being the new price resistance point that we need to consider getting above..

I do like it though.. I do like the ongoing upwards price pressures... .. and getting above $11,500 from yesterday was good, and getting above $11,780 from a couple of weeks ago (2/20) will be good too... (if it happens)
19152  Economy / Gambling / Re: I’m not you, Alia. And you still can’t have your cake and eat it, too. on: March 05, 2018, 03:46:02 AM

That said, I agree with suchmoon.  And I am leaning back toward the theory that you sincerely believe in, and are obsessed with your script.  Take a break.  Please.

That is bullshit.  You really could not believe that there is any level of sincerity left in alia about this financial poverty story.. a script that supposedly can make you rich, but you are employing such script while being in a state of desperation.  S/he/it already shown enough sophistication in thread posts and does not believe that crap.  

S/he/it is only blowing smoke about some fictional script, and if s/he/it gambles using such supposedly existing script, then s/he/it deserves to lose whatever remaining finances that s/he/it is betting on these kinds of nonsensical plays.

We are getting past any kind of empathy stage and into the absurd, no?  Sure, some of the alia claims are funny, but you really cannot be taking any of them seriously, at this point, right?

Empathy?  I’m on record as being so strongly in principle against empathy [see midway through post] that I’ve been accused of psychopathy.  I replied by dropping Nietzsche on all the bleeding hearts.  You may rest assured that I am not motivated by “empathy” for Alia.

(I also have another polemic in my drafts box against empathy.  Too much forum drama.  Too much distraction.)



Perhaps indirectly I may have been suggesting something about your level of empathy; however, it seems that my main point remains that alia has devolved into such an outrageous status of incredulity that would be difficult for any reasonable person to believe much if anything that she is saying, even if you had continued to grant a large amount of benefit of the doubt.  At some point, the benefit of the doubt granting becomes too much because there remains almost no redemption avenue for alia and her extraordinary claims on several fronts.

Come on, the 21m btc thing was obviously a joke. And I don't need empathy, tyvm

Of course, anyone could recognize one claim of winning back all of the bitcoins, including Satoshi's, as an exaggerated joke.

But you are not just one exaggerated joke but instead, seeming to be unfolding as a walking bag of contradictions.

19153  Economy / Gambling / Re: I’m not you, Alia. And you still can’t have your cake and eat it, too. on: March 05, 2018, 12:07:05 AM

That said, I agree with suchmoon.  And I am leaning back toward the theory that you sincerely believe in, and are obsessed with your script.  Take a break.  Please.

That is bullshit.  You really could not believe that there is any level of sincerity left in alia about this financial poverty story.. a script that supposedly can make you rich, but you are employing such script while being in a state of desperation.  S/he/it already shown enough sophistication in thread posts and does not believe that crap.  

S/he/it is only blowing smoke about some fictional script, and if s/he/it gambles using such supposedly existing script, then s/he/it deserves to lose whatever remaining finances that s/he/it is betting on these kinds of nonsensical plays.

We are getting past any kind of empathy stage and into the absurd, no?  Sure, some of the alia claims are funny, but you really cannot be taking any of them seriously, at this point, right?

Empathy?  I’m on record as being so strongly in principle against empathy [see midway through post] that I’ve been accused of psychopathy.  I replied by dropping Nietzsche on all the bleeding hearts.  You may rest assured that I am not motivated by “empathy” for Alia.

(I also have another polemic in my drafts box against empathy.  Too much forum drama.  Too much distraction.)



Perhaps indirectly I may have been suggesting something about your level of empathy; however, it seems that my main point remains that alia has devolved into such an outrageous status of incredulity that would be difficult for any reasonable person to believe much if anything that she is saying, even if you had continued to grant a large amount of benefit of the doubt.  At some point, the benefit of the doubt granting becomes too much because there remains almost no redemption avenue for alia and her extraordinary claims on several fronts.
19154  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 04, 2018, 09:42:43 PM
Is this the assault on the neckline of the right shoulder on the iH&S everyone has been watching?

-edit- BTW, sorry to interrupt the gun talk... lol-

Stamp spiked up to $11395. If it can get above $11400 before Monday the post weekend pump could push it above $11500.

No need to get excited unless it breaks above $12k
19155  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 04, 2018, 09:35:00 PM
Sure, we each have our own particular (or should I say peculiar) strategy involving (as it were) the laddering of buys and sells according to our own analysis of the risk/reward of said strategy at any given time. And sure, assuming a more Up than DOWN trend continues this should leave each of us with more bitcoins going down, and more dollars going uppy....



the STYLE is getting closer, but you need to flesh it out more and reiterate your points

Either it takes years of practice or a genetic predisposition- back to the nature versus nurture debate. 😝 Tongue
19156  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 04, 2018, 09:11:48 PM
Sure, we each have our own particular (or should I say peculiar) strategy involving (as it were) the laddering of buys and sells according to our own analysis of the risk/reward of said strategy at any given time. And sure, assuming a more Up than DOWN trend continues this should leave each of us with more bitcoins going down, and more dollars going uppy....




Overall you are correct but the proportion to which  you take your  profits in dollars or bitcoins can cause variance in how you make such an assessment of your status. For example if we return to $20k, I will have more bitcoins than I had the first time around, but fewer dollar than I had the first time at $20k, while at the same time way more dollars than I currently have - estimated at about a bit more than 2x more dollars than I have now but nearly 10% fewer dollars than I had the first time around
19157  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 04, 2018, 09:01:38 PM
The overwhelming bullishness in the current market is concerning.


You are suggesting a bull trap in bitcoin or in crypto overall or what?

Don’t we have good btc fundamentals here after a decent dip?

Regarding bitcoin specifically Maybe you believe the minority view that we are in a kind of early 2014 like scenario rather than the majority (here) view of our being in an early 2013 like scenario?
19158  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 04, 2018, 10:50:23 AM
Trying to do tax planning. I have thousands of trades across a dozen exchanges in different countries in all sorts of alts.  I am really struggling to figure it out so good fucking luck to the tax authority.  It would take a CPA 3 months.   I’m just going to have to make a best efforts estimate.  Half the exchanges don’t even export trade records in .csv.  Plus miner fees and dust lost in web wallets etc.  Total mess.  

Just a general question: why would someone make thousands of trades per year?
IMHO, it is self defeating in eventuality.
Personally, when I over trade, it a signal that I am about to lose a lot of money (for me).
In happened in 2000-2001 just before I had losses in 2002.
One year i had about a thou trades. It took me about three weeks to figure it all out on Turbotax.
Some trades looked really stupid when I looked at the totality of it all.
After that-no more of that nonsense.


It is fairly easy to average 3 trades per day, which is more than 1,000 trades per year, especially if you are doing trades of less than 3% price changes, which happens frequently, and with trading fees of .2% or .4% two ways (and sometimes less), you can have profitable trades that are based on mere 1% price changes.  

Furthermore, you can have BTC trades on several platforms which cause it more likely that some of them trigger and also play around with arbitrage opportunities between different cryptos and between exchanges, which also happen on a regular basis.  

Forget about the arbitrage, between coins, you can have a lot of arbitrage opportunities coming from one exchange to another, just assuming trading the USD/BTC pair, and all of these opportunities lead to possibilities that you could have a lot of trades filling, and frequently - adding up to 1,000 or at least a couple thousand trades per year... and all profitable, too - depending upon how you trade, but it is possible to set them up to all be profitable..
19159  Economy / Gambling / Re: You can’t have your cake and eat it, too. on: March 04, 2018, 03:31:57 AM
That said, I agree with suchmoon.  And I am leaning back toward the theory that you sincerely believe in, and are obsessed with your script.  Take a break.  Please.

That is bullshit.  You really could not believe that there is any level of sincerity left in alia about this financial poverty story.. a script that supposedly can make you rich, but you are employing such script while being in a state of desperation.  S/he/it already shown enough sophistication in thread posts and does not believe that crap.   

S/he/it is only blowing smoke about some fictional script, and if s/he/it gambles using such supposedly existing script, then s/he/it deserves to lose whatever remaining finances that s/he/it is betting on these kinds of nonsensical plays.

We are getting past any kind of empathy stage and into the absurd, no?  Sure, some of the alia claims are funny, but you really cannot be taking any of them seriously, at this point, right?
19160  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 04, 2018, 02:08:35 AM
^---- I would listen to this person.

Yeah... Surely, in this thread, we give a ratt's ass about alts.    Wink   

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