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1921  Economy / Trading Discussion / Chrome Browser extension: MtGox trading bot on: March 06, 2012, 03:57:34 PM
There is a topic Goomboo's Journal, in the Speculation board - I learned a lot there.

Let me present you a Chrome extension that is able to automatically follow the trading strategy explained by Goomboo in that topic (so people could get some sleep).

How it works
  • This is not a high frequency trading bot. It is making decisions to trade, based on H1 historical prices (at most 1 trade every 2 hours, but in practice rather ~1 trade per day)
  • The bot executes trades automatically, without a warning, according to the current trend. It does not wait for the EMA lines to cross first! Read also here
  • Any SELL executed by the bot will sell all the bitcoins available at the account. Any BUY will spend all the USD you have there, turning them into bitcoins - all at the current market price

Installation
  • You can install the extension here: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/iejmifigokhpcgpmoacllcdiceicmejb
  • After installing, wait for it to fetch the historical prices and then (after the "progress bar" turns into a number) go the Options to configure your MtGox API Key (also some other options if you want)
  • After you configure the API access, just leave your browser running 24/7 and it will be trading for you, according to the trend

Security
I don't care about any feedback like 'I don't trust you', so don't bother letting me know. In fact if I were you I wouldn't trust myself either. Smiley
But here is what you should know to protect yourself from a potential fraud:
  • The bot uses the MtGox API and it does not require you to be logged into your MtGox account at any time. So better don't be
  • Setup the API key (in your MtGox account settings), to only allow get_info and trade access right - this way the bot cannot do you much harm, even if I wanted to

Warning!
This is an early version.
Until more people test it and the code gets well reviewed, I strongly advise you to try it only with a testing account and a small amount in.


I'm looking forward for any feedback or questions. Otherwise, have fun with it! Smiley
1922  Economy / Speculation / Re: Goomboo's Journal on: March 05, 2012, 09:28:19 PM
I'd probably need a while to mull it all over, I'm sure that they'd be plenty of others interested in this too
While you've been mulling it over... I should have something for you to try by tomorrow.
I will start a separate topic in the Trading forum, to not spoil Goomboo's Journal anymore.
Just want to test it a bit more overnight.

It's an extension for Chrome browser - trivial to install / not so complex to setup / very easy to use.
And relatively easy to review - just a few KB of JS code, with some ajax stuff.

I had already had my bot, quite more advanced, but since I was so bored today and I like coding Chrome extensions... I made it for you Smiley
Anyway, will let you know soon - stay tuned.
1923  Economy / Speculation / Re: Goomboo's Journal on: March 02, 2012, 10:05:38 PM
I expect that if you could make this available for non programers then there would be some paying interest demand for it, I'd be interested if it was idiot proof or nearly & not needing a PHD in geekism to set up with different parameters
I could have, but you should not be trusting strangers in internet to take care of such stuff.

If the 2 crossing EMAs tech really works more often that not (anyone tested it? results?) I would let a bot run by some forum member with rep to play with a few of my BTC. A good bot would even be more than enough for a speculative fund quoted on the GLBSE.  
I tested it many times, in many different combinations, with the historical data.
Basically if you optimize for profit, much less than 50% of your entries are winning ones in such H1 based system.
But in general you profit - from following the trend, because as we all have noticed, when it goes up or down, then it really does enough to compensate the small loses...
At least so far - nobody knows tomorrow. Even with the historical data the optimal values depend on the period you choose - how many days you test and from when...

But my general measures, of a long term data, also show that if you switch from H1 to D1, you might actually get a similar scale of a potential profit - just with fewer swaps.
And also a better percentage of winning bets - if you care Smiley
1924  Economy / Speculation / Re: Goomboo's Journal on: March 02, 2012, 09:43:17 PM
I expect that if you could make this available for non programers then there would be some paying interest demand for it, I'd be interested if it was idiot proof or nearly & not needing a PHD in geekism to set up with different parameters
I could have, but you should not be trusting strangers in internet to take care of such stuff.
It's a piece of software, which you run on your PC, that deals with your money - you don't know me, so you shouldn't be taking it from me if you cannot understand what is inside.
Otherwise someone will screw you over one day - and I'm not being cynical here, it's just life that we all need to deal with Smiley

What I can do to help you..
You tell me what do you actually need and I can post some simple scripts here, so others could verify if I'm not screwing you over with them.
And then you can run them on your pc, if you want. I can eventually tell you what you need to install first - a software from some trusted source, like google, oracle or microsoft Smiley

But basically, as when it comes to bitcoincharts+bitcoinica, I believe all you need is a continuously running web browser - you can afford it, cant you?
For the new mtgox api, which i think is much better, they have a crypto with some weird hmac stuff - I dont know how easy it would be to do it in javascript. Probably php would be best here, since their example actually works - and there is not much more one needs to add over that.
1925  Economy / Speculation / Re: Goomboo's Journal on: March 02, 2012, 08:34:35 PM
most of the time you will miss it when your not glued to your computer.

this might help

http://www.bitcoin-tools.de/
Why bother waking up?
It's actually quite easy to create an own bot. Just don't run it on a Linode VPS - better use your own PC at home Smiley

1) Every hour fetch the last 100 or so candles from the bitcoincharts: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.json?m=mtgoxUSD&i=H1&c=1&s=2012-02-20
2) Calculate EMA(long) and EMA(short) from the recent data: http://www.iexplain.org/ema-how-to-calculate/
3) If the lines have just crossed: execute the mtgox or bitcoinica API, according to the changing trend.
As simple as that.

You can basically do it in one relatively simple script; use php, python, bash, javascript, anything that suits you... I personally prefer Go - it's a great language.
Then run the 3 steps every hour (crontab, windows scheduler or whetever) - and you have no need to wake up in a middle of a night. Unless only to check if your bot is doing well... Tongue
1926  Economy / Speculation / Re: Goomboo's Journal on: February 28, 2012, 10:20:21 PM
i don't think the actual market has anything to do with this topic.
i think bitcoin is much bigger than your pity speculation investments and the price much stronger than your consecutive inconsequence to follow any strategy you could think of. Tongue
1927  Economy / Speculation / Re: Goomboo's Journal on: February 28, 2012, 06:32:59 PM
based on this ?

No, I used the SMA to trigger my entry.

so many people on here have been using the EMA crossover and yet the guru already changed his strategy.  Next time before trading, people should do their own backtesting and not choose a trading strategy based on a few trades of an anonymous person.
you are definitely to impatient, as for dealing with any possible strategy out there Smiley

using this, or any other strategy, of course you will be loosing - the question is 'how much and how often?'
you loose on unnecessary swaps, when the market is still.
but following the trend gives you a great advantage when the market is actually moving...

don't blame the guy for giving you hints.
he doesn't promise you to win anything - nobody knows what the market will do in the nearest future, neither does 'the guru'.

but he doesn't sell a bullshit, and I appreciate anything he's said. thank you goomboo!
1928  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Mtgox has some serious issue on: February 01, 2012, 10:07:19 PM
According to Mt. Gox's Vol/Price graph, everything seems to be normal for today
I'm guessing this chart has the lowest priority, so they will update it in a few hours or so Smiley
1929  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Mtgox has some serious issue on: February 01, 2012, 09:48:24 PM
yes, but this time the trading was not halted. it was perfectly going on - the price was changing on the market and the transactions were being processed. people were byuing and selling bitcoins for a price that was much, much different from the actual ticker price.
because the tickers were not being updated - for minutes!
and since during these minutes there was such a big spike, it could have been a fraud Smiley
dont you think?

i mean, and i know about programming, how hard is it to make sure that the ticker price always represents the latest price?
it's not a lot of data to send through.
so either some developer really screwed it up badly - or it was a fraud Smiley
is there a third option?
1930  Economy / Trading Discussion / Mtgox has some serious issue on: February 01, 2012, 09:44:49 PM
I was watching this today, and I'm sure many of you as well.
MtGox was processing transactions - someone was buying tons on bitcoins, so obviously there were many database records to process - but the tickers (the so-called API) was not updated in the realtime!
It was like showing 5.60 while the price was already at 6 - for minutes, not seconds.
It's just not right.
If someone had an insight info into the actual ticker - is was a fraud.
And I know some people who did Smiley
So I can only hope that this was an accident.
Though, it's still wrong.
Dont you think?
1931  Economy / Speculation / Re: RALLY! on: February 01, 2012, 09:32:42 PM
i think somone is trading so many bitcoins that mtgox is just overloaded and is somehow shutting down updating of the recent data - the output of the tickers is just frozen, while the transaction are far far away...
the one who can get the most recent info is the one to win Smiley
mtgox - you suck with this! Smiley
1932  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [BETA] MTGox websocket API, testers wanted on: January 26, 2012, 03:12:54 PM
I get my ID nicely from https://socketio.mtgox.com/socket.io/1/ but then after I connect my websocket lib to ws://socketio.mtgox.com:80/socket.io/1/websocket/XXXXX - it just sends me "7:::1+0" and disconnects immediately after that.
If u got ID from https:// than u must connect to wss:// with this ID (SSL/TLS - secure connection)
and if http:// than ws://
shit man.
thank you!!!
that was indeed the problem.
1933  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [BETA] MTGox websocket API, testers wanted on: January 25, 2012, 01:45:21 PM
Or just try this page: http://websocket.org/echo.html
... using i.e.  ws://socketio.mtgox.com:80/socket.io/1/websocket/14001291971574386363
and tell me that I'm crazy Smiley
1934  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [BETA] MTGox websocket API, testers wanted on: January 25, 2012, 01:34:50 PM
I don't know guys how you can be using this new socket.io via the websocket interface...

I get my ID nicely from https://socketio.mtgox.com/socket.io/1/ but then after I connect my websocket lib to ws://socketio.mtgox.com:80/socket.io/1/websocket/XXXXX - it just sends me "7:::1+0" and disconnects immediately after that.

Am I the only one who has this problem?

Works for me. Sounds like an issue on your side.
But which language / websocket library do you use?

I tried with latest Chrome and this extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/pfdhoblngboilpfeibdedpjgfnlcodoo
.... and also tried with websocket package from Go - and they both disconnect me immediately after sending "7:::1+0"
1935  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [BETA] MTGox websocket API, testers wanted on: January 25, 2012, 01:14:54 PM
I don't know guys how you can be using this new socket.io via the websocket interface...

I get my ID nicely from https://socketio.mtgox.com/socket.io/1/ but then after I connect my websocket lib to ws://socketio.mtgox.com:80/socket.io/1/websocket/XXXXX - it just sends me "7:::1+0" and disconnects immediately after that.

Am I the only one who has this problem?
1936  Economy / Speculation / Re: Goomboo's Journal on: January 24, 2012, 11:16:30 PM
Except all the people on the other side of those trades Wink.
yeah.
i hope you are there Smiley
1937  Economy / Speculation / Re: Goomboo's Journal on: January 24, 2012, 11:12:53 PM
and now look what you've done:


nobody wants to trade against your system anymore Smiley
1938  Economy / Speculation / Re: Goomboo's Journal on: January 24, 2012, 11:27:29 AM
I'm not seeing it.  Are you saying there was a crossing while today's candlestick was still forming?  Do you not wait for each candlestick to complete before looking for crossings?  Either way, it doesn't look like the price has been low enough at any point today for the moving averages to have crossed:
Change it from Daily to Hourly - then you will see it Smiley


Thx, @Goomboo - it's a very nice topic!

But what do you do when it looks like this?


It doesn't seem like crossing, yet - does it?
You wait - or you sell?
1939  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitscalper anyone use this ? on: January 23, 2012, 11:37:18 PM
so i think that's why he used the term  "tune it"
if you want to win more in such game - you might need to tune it with a small risk.
especially if there are other players on the market Smiley
1940  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitscalper anyone use this ? on: January 23, 2012, 11:31:12 PM
Now the question:  Is that resonable for an arbitrage system?
Another question is: if you put in twice more money - is it going to stay at 0.6%, or is it going to down twice as well?
I would go for the latter in this choice Smiley
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