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1921  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to remove the Dust of 1 Satoshi Spam tx on: October 01, 2014, 07:26:22 PM
If I told you what those "specs of dust" will be worth one day, you wouldn't ask such a question.
1922  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is like the electric car on: October 01, 2014, 04:15:05 PM
I would gladly take that measure of protection ANYDAY over btc, which offers no protection.
No protection? This is good enough for me:


1923  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What will you do if you meet a market manipulating permabear bitcoin whale? on: October 01, 2014, 04:10:23 PM
Imagine you meet a permabear bitcoin whale who wants to destroy btc by shorting and selling...
I would do nothing, maybe have a friendly conversation. This person cannot affect me financially or otherwise.

The idea that you can destroy - or even harm - bitcoin by buying OR selling BTC is as absurd as the idea that you can harm the internet by downloading or uploading information.
1924  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is like the electric car on: October 01, 2014, 04:07:29 PM
No, you misunderstand me. Fiat money can only exist (be used) at one place at one time - even digital fiat.

With bitcoin, you can share one address key with multiple people anywhere in the world, and share that money simultaneously without worrying about bank delays, fees, changing currencies, or any of that obsolete nonsense.

lies

i gave my wife my debit card and she goes shopping 3 cities away..
3 cities away...

with bitcoin you can do the same 3 continents away.

Try that with your debit card and most banks will freeze your account without your consent, and their fraud department will call you up asking WTF is going on.

See the difference?
1925  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is like the electric car on: October 01, 2014, 03:25:30 PM
Bsides, fiat money can also exist anywhere in the world
No, you misunderstand me. Fiat money can only exist (be used) at one place at one time - even digital fiat.

With bitcoin, you can share one address key with multiple people anywhere in the world, and share that money simultaneously without worrying about bank delays, fees, changing currencies, or any of that obsolete nonsense.

1926  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is like the electric car on: October 01, 2014, 12:51:53 PM
No offense Elwar, but your analogy is shit.

If fiat is the car, than bitcoin is the teleporter. Bitcoin can be in two (or 42) places in the world at the same time. That's teleportation.
1927  Economy / Speculation / Re: What would happen if BTC was the main economic currency and yet.. on: October 01, 2014, 12:27:40 PM
It lost 2/3rd of its' value within a year like what happened in 2014?  Imagine if everybody lost 2/3rd of their purchasing power?  What would the economic results of this be?

If BTC was the main economic currency, it would not be volatile.
Exactly. I like Andreas's analogy when he called Bitcoin a zodiac that bobs up and down with the waves. A zodiac sitting next to the Titanic that is fiat, which has just struck an iceberg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr4y9vBApz0
1928  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will turn bull now. What's your Bitcoin career? on: September 30, 2014, 09:20:27 PM
Take your freakin ritalin dudes n stop smokin the weed...
Friend, you need to deprogram. Unlearn your brainwashing. You should check out Changing Education Paradigms with Ken Robinson. I also recommend Bruce Levine's Rebel Yell.

As someone who was forced to take Ritalin from 2nd grade all the way through the end of high school, I find a low-sugar diet and frequent exercise + sex to be a far superior method for managing my "AD/HD" (a misnomer & piss-poor descriptor of the brain style / "disorder", btw).  

Get this, my former psychiatrist now buys weed from me on occasion. A man with easy-access to any prescription drug, told me weed is the best anxiety relieving medicine he knows of. I shit you not.
1929  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Less than 13 million people own atleast 1 bitcoin. NOT GOOD on: September 30, 2014, 09:15:25 PM
Welcome to the infancy of a new technology. These are early days.
Yup you can apply the same observations to the internet.  "What I cannot even use my phone at the same time?" "I have to get a phone line installed?" "I have to pay per page I visit???" "My friend used her credit card at an untrusted website and got scammed"
Indeed, the parallels are all too obvious for those of us who remember the headlines:

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/08/05/business/worldbusiness/05iht-cyber.t.html
1930  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will turn bull now. What's your Bitcoin career? on: September 30, 2014, 09:11:52 PM
Retirement is my bitcoin career.

Capitalism makes me sick, I don't engage with it unless I'm coerced to for my survival.

I will find something kind and compassionate to do with my ample free time.
 
1931  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2014: The Worst Year for BTC? on: September 30, 2014, 09:07:18 PM

No time in bitcoin history has anyone lost any money if they held for 1 year at any buy in point.  This will be really interesting when we start hitting september/october.

We are already towards the end of September... And there is no recovery in sight.

I think he means 12 month period. If that is the case, then the price in Dec last year was over 1,100, we have to rise a lot to beat that.

13-Nov-13. That is the day bitcoin crossed $400.... and that too with a $45 jump.
By Nov-Dec we will know whether such a 12 month period exists.
And then the question will become, what exactly is so important about the number 12, or the number 365, or the number 8,670 (hours) that we should place such emphasis on it as a determination of bitcoin's usefulness or value?

Answer: Nothing! There is absolutely no good reason to use the time it takes Earth to completely orbit Sol as an investment metric. It's sheer nonsense, the shallowest of logic.
1932  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Less than 13 million people own atleast 1 bitcoin. NOT GOOD on: September 30, 2014, 08:59:16 PM
Welcome to the infancy of a new technology. These are early days.
1933  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you ready to "admit" Bitcoin is a Huge Success? on: September 30, 2014, 06:23:15 PM
Bitcoin is having an excellent year: The real growth in the Bitcoin economy is stunning when compared to 2011/2012.
Are you ready to "admit" Bitcoin is a Huge Success?
I was ready to make that call the day I read Satoshi's whitepaper.

The internet of money? Check and mate to you, ancient centralized violence-backed scam system AKA fiat scrip.
1934  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why consumers are not adopting BTC on: September 30, 2014, 06:17:45 PM
You don't get it, retail is fueled by consumers buying with currency they don't have, credit cards.

PEOPLE ARE BROKE 99% are.
Correction, Americans are broke. The corporations have moved their factories overseas, and with it they've taken most of the jobs supporting our once thriving middle class.

In the next phase, they will take the services industry. This has already begun, and the problem will be exacerbated by mass-automation, meaning robotics - take a look at what Google has been buying (spoiler: over a dozen robotics firms).

What America is experiencing is a process referred academically as "economic inversion". It's America shifting from a first world country to... god knows what kind of hellhole America will be when every major metropolis goes the way of Detroit...
1935  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Circle Announces Global Launch of Bitcoin Banking Platform on: September 29, 2014, 01:41:06 PM
I just miss some mobile apps
Yep, I'm not switching to circle until I see an Android app
1936  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why should Bitcoin = n*usd (n= 1000's) on: September 29, 2014, 01:21:50 PM
Thoughts?
See this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=801628.0,

or just read this: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/why-bitcoin-value-doesnt-matter/
1937  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Number of Bitcoin Users vs. World Population, to scale on: September 29, 2014, 01:19:31 PM
If my theory proves to be accurate, Bitcoin will be several orders of magnitude larger by 2020.

That is if bitcoin progression does mimics the internet's.
It'll be close enough that the differences won't matter.

There is till no guarantee that bitcoin won't go the way of the PDAs or the pagers
I disagree, the guarantee is the technological innovation Bitcoin represents. Solving the Byzantine General's problem with a decentralized public ledger was a massive advancement in computer science. It cannot be ignored.

It's folly to pretend things are the same now as the were before this technology existed. They're not, and they never will be again.

1938  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: In these desperate/FUD times, here's my (I hope) unbiased view of Bitcoin. on: September 29, 2014, 01:13:57 PM
The problems I see:

1) Lack of innovation. Absolutely nothing big happened for years now.
Thank you for putting this nonsense right up front, I knew to stop reading without wasting too many of my valuable seconds.
1939  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Bitcoin Value vs. The Dollar Doesn’t Matter (and Never Will) on: September 29, 2014, 12:41:04 PM
OP is correct. Comparing Bitcoin's value against fiat is like comparing oil's value to steam before the oil age, or comparing ARPANET's value to the telegraph in 1985. A premature comparison of infant tech to dinosaur tech.

These fiat <-> crypto comparisons are going to look extremely silly in five years, downright hilarious in ten, and fully absurd in twenty.

"The Internet's takeover of the global communication landscape was almost instant in historical terms: it only communicated 1% of the information flowing through two-way telecommunications networks in the year 1993, already 51% by 2000, and more than 97% of the telecommunicated information by 2007.[1] Today the Internet continues to grow, driven by ever greater amounts of online information, commerce, entertainment, and social networking."
1940  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Digitial Scarcity: The "Irreducible Core" of Bitcoin on: September 28, 2014, 04:54:23 PM
http://gendal.wordpress.com/2014/01/25/what-is-the-irreducible-core-of-bitcoin/

“Bitcoin is the world’s first system of digital cash, which allows peer-to-peer value transfer over the internet with no reliance on third parties.  It is built on a new invention, the decentralized global asset register. This global asset register is the world’s first decentralized consensus system.”

The world’s first internet-scale decentralized platform for value exchange

First, Bitcoin is the world’s first true system of digital cash, which allows peer-to-peer value exchange over the internet with no reliance on third parties.   This is the key feature of Bitcoin as a currency and payment system and explains most of the current infrastructure build-out.

… implemented on a decentralized global asset register…

Secondly, Bitcoin works because it is based on a new concept: decentralized global asset registers.

Decentralised global asset registers are also an entirely new invention. They can be used to register and transfer ownership of any digital asset.

It is this that people are talking about when they say things like “currency is just the first application” for the Bitcoin platform.

… which is a decentralized consensus system

However, the story doesn’t stop here.  There’s a third element: how do these asset registers work?   They work because of a third breakthrough: the invention of “decentralized consensus systems”.  That is: internet-scale systems that can reach and maintain a common state without the involvement of any third party and in the presence of malignant adversaries.   This is a breathtaking breakthrough in computer science; we should expect to see the most forward-looking computer science schools undertaking active research in this space.

What is Digital Scarcity?

"...a system that allows you to make objects in the digital world “scarce”.  The obvious intuition here is to think of .mp3 files.  If I email one to you, it hasn’t been transferred, it has been duplicated and is no longer scarce.  We know what happened to the recorded music industry when this happened on an industrial scale.   Back’s concept, thus, is the problem of how to enable transfer without duplication.  Clearly, this property is key to making Bitcoin work and Back’s phrase captures it perfectly: “digital scarcity”."
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