So what are "gracious donations to shareholders"? They are bets that are placed when the a bet was still open, but get's closed before your bet TX is confirmed by miners. So say you are about to bet 10 BTC on "Yes" for "North Korea will launch more missiles during May". If North Korea launches the missiles while you're sending the TX for the bet, BitBet.us will just keep the Bitcoins and not return them.
In other words they're bets made by people after the event, trying to suck some money out of the "poor suckers" who bet before them. Herp derp, so sad that they end up short.
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removed due to 'request' and lack of significant interest
Cool. Here's the original post for posteriority: http://pastebin.com/niHFwZReSlimy worms you people are, seriously now. This post is by Donald. This whole thing caused him a lot of stress and paranoia.
Yes dear, we know. Fuck off back to your hole, scamface. Amir, why did Donald remove the post?
Because his special pleading failed, and rather than come out with a more honest and more productive "I failed yet again at this trying to pretend thing I do" he prefers to pretend that it never happened. There's excellent reasons usagi is the poster child for the old school Bitcoin folk.
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So better than pushing him is to beg him to give you Bitstamp BTC.
This was funny. Somebody is running begging classes for the Bitcoin community? My primary concern with ripple is exactly what TradeFortress has just demonstrated. Ripple IOUs have different values based on the issuer. If they traded on an open market, you would see this. IOUs for a trusted institution are worth more than IOUs for a less trusted one. E.g. you might see Bitstamp USD IOUs trading against Weexchange IOUs at a non-1 rate, such as 1.1.
But we don't see that in ripple (as far as I can tell). Instead, we see a markets labelled by the currencies only, such as USD/XRP. But whose USD? Where's the Bitstamp USD / Weexchange USD market?
The obvious defense to this is that the ripple thing is very new, populated by very clueless people and it will improve in time. The risk of course is that absent competent people involved it will simply end up tagged as a failure (which is happening already). The complete inability of the managing team to obtain and retain the support of competent people seems to irreversibly doom this particular installment (even if the ripple idea might eventually come to some fruition, made and marketed by people with actual skills, understanding and connections rather than by random "hey ma look, I can programmate the computor" folks).
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I wish I was doing it inversely.
Here's an old joke: "How do you recognize the members of Bitcoin Talk forum among the general public?" "They're the ones balding around the forehead. Everyone else is balding from the top of their head." "Why is that?" "Because the BTC talk guy tends to slap his forehead in surprise after the fact whereas everyone else tends to scratch his head in consideration afore the fact."
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It still seems shady to me that the onus is on the bet creator.
That made zero sense. Especially with how everyone jumps to one side or the other closer to the end date.
I don't get why do you think bettor behavior has anything to do with it? It doesn't really matter how people bet, seeing how your slice is allocated first, right as the bet is accepted. (to the point of even losing BTC just to win the bet)
This keeps coming up for some reason, in spite of not actually happening in reality. Weird. BitBet is quite generously funding .1 BTC per introduced bet. This is leaps and bounds more than you could make, doing absolutely anything else on the Internet. I don't see the sense of you imagining you have much merit in the eventual popularity of any bet you introduce. No idea why you'd think that putting in some BFL delivery bet you've contributed something so valuable/original/whatever as to give you claim to anything in the first place. So, let's not get ahead of ourselves and confuse site generosity with unseemly self-entitlement. On the other hand if indeed you promoted the bet and aren't just claiming so then I would hope you used the referral system. If you didn't use it you really need to stop for a moment, read the FAQ carefully, think things through. If you did use it then you've received 1% of the deposits you referred, which is exactly what BitBet makes. If that came up to zero then you've not promoted to any actual effect, contrary to what you might imagine. All this aside, sorry things didn't work out for you.
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are you really claiming that one of the primary reasons BitBet was successful is because it listed on MPEX?
You're rather slow aren't you.
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Harrr that MPOE-PR really sucks! Rabble!
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I can't even believe people are trying to argue that this bet should have gone the other way.
Talk about delusional, jeez.
Really good juice could be an explanation, sure. I kinda doubt it tho.
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are there any more racist gambling websites i should avoid this is very important i do not want to give my money or receive any money from someone who might possibly be a racist. thank you and and keep up the good work.
I don't want to support any website whose owner listens to pop music. Could you please let us know which gambling website owner is guilty of this so I can stay far away from it? Calmmm down fella's.. Pop music really sucks, but small tits are worse. I don't want to support the perverse sexuality and lifestyle of anyone running a gambling site who has a girlfriend under D cup. Please add mentions of the cup size of gambling site ops' girlfriends asap ty. men, you're a skinny white fag racist bastard.
Gee psy, why don't you say what you really mean? are there any more racist gambling websites i should avoid this is very important i do not want to give my money or receive any money from someone who might possibly be a racist. thank you and and keep up the good work.
I heard there's a roulette site that pays less for black than for single number bets. This is discriminatory. As per federal roulette law you can't discriminate between black-slant and red-slant roulette tables. Reposting this on the new page to see if memsy spams his own thread with 20 posts to get rid of it again. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Opinions from enough random idiots = impartial
At least that's the theory voting works on. If you feel well represented by that system I guess either Bitcoin has gone mainstream meanwhile or else you're a fish out of water.
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Also - where can we see the underlying price that normal shareholders of Proteon Pharmaceuticals are trading at?
They're listed in Boiler Room. It's a Ben Affleck flick.
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I was not going to mention this but he does look thinner as well.
Meth does wonders for crack whores that can't afford the crack no mo'.
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Oh hey, this thread still going? And the people who fucked up are still sore in the butt? And nothing else is coming out of it?
Who could have imagined it!
Here's a five cent clue, kids: Stay in school. Trolling for BFL doesn't pay.
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Ok ok, glwt and so forth. Who's "we" and why aren't "we" in the WoT.
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Stop trying to centralize. The liquidity is OTC, and has always been there. If you're not cool enough to trade with the cool kids find a website that has a pretty color scheme and stick to that.
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Can someone give me a quick summary of this 80 page thread for someone who might be interested in buying shares.. ?
Blaa bla, best deal ever! OMfG, its going up! Buy buy! Free money... (crickets!) ... Whales is here! Blaa blaa blaa... OMFG, Evorhees dumped a assload of shares on market... blaa blaa blaa, Whales are here! It's going to be grate... Whales are here again. Fuck! Evorhees dumped another assload of shares on market, blaa blaa blaa, evorees bough a huge apartment... blaa blaa... its falling, where did whales go... blaa blaa blaa, we are fucked, blaa blaa, alphabet agencies are crawling up to sdice's virtual ass... yes, it keeps falling... blaa blaa... Can someone give me a quick summary of this 80 page thread... and the next 80 pages or so will continue with same... That's pretty funny. The beauty of a free market: you get exactly what you ask for. As long as you're okay with "someone" === "random idiot" a summary of anything is just a post away.
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Someone will launch multiple PTs even. Like, take a look, I'm not sure why they were even approved because it splits liquidity.
It's a free Bitcoin, why'd anyone need approval?
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are there any more racist gambling websites i should avoid this is very important i do not want to give my money or receive any money from someone who might possibly be a racist. thank you and and keep up the good work.
I don't want to support any website whose owner listens to pop music. Could you please let us know which gambling website owner is guilty of this so I can stay far away from it? Calmmm down fella's.. Pop music really sucks, but small tits are worse. I don't want to support the perverse sexuality and lifestyle of anyone running a gambling site who has a girlfriend under D cup. Please add mentions of the cup size of gambling site ops' girlfriends asap ty. men, you're a skinny white fag racist bastard.
Gee psy, why don't you say what you really mean? are there any more racist gambling websites i should avoid this is very important i do not want to give my money or receive any money from someone who might possibly be a racist. thank you and and keep up the good work.
I heard there's a roulette site that pays less for black than for single number bets. This is discriminatory. As per federal roulette law you can't discriminate between black-slant and red-slant roulette tables.
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Whatever you say about MPEx, the fact is that they have 1000 BTC average daily volume on trading shares of companies that chosen to be listed there. That is something. When you look at BitFunder and BTCT and put aside all passthroughs, you will find ~40 BTC daily volume.
But that doesn't mean that the two latter don't have volume. BitFunder had almost 500 BTC ASICMINER PTs traded in the last 24h and BTCT traded 1270 BTC of ASICMINER PTs. So they have enough people willing to trade bitcoins for shares. It's not demand from traders what's missing on these exchanges but supply of companies. No company originally listed on these exchanges actually makes any significant volume. It's all ASICMINER.
Considering this, if your company is going to be truly remarkable, you will probably do well on any of these three exchanges, as all of them have traders making good volume. But considering past performance of companies originally listed on these exchanges, getting listed on MPEx might be read as a recommendation and give traders some more confidence for your company and that will make your success a little bit easier.
And you don't need to worry about MPEx barrier of entry for new traders - if you're be successful, someone will launch passthroughs on the other exchanges. S.DICE PTs on BTCT+BitFunder make half of S.DICE's MPEx volume.
Dude who are you. I wasn't even aware balanced posts are allowed on Bitcoin Talk. Is this some timewarp or something?!
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