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1941  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Последний вагон на север on: November 13, 2022, 02:07:45 PM
Нет, активы не равносильные... Посмотри на график ftt... То же самое может случиться и с bnb, а с битком такого не будет... Хотя если с битком такое случится, то остальные альты будут торговаться примерно в отрицательных значениях...  Grin Бнб это тупо копия эфира, которая работает по щелчку пальцев сизого... И я уверен что вечно оно работать не будэ...
        Я не успеваю банально следить за всеми крипто проектами, но что это такой за "зверь" был? Huh Могу лишь предположить, что это биржа. Сори... Так это же обанкротившаяся FTX. А чем думал "хозяин" биржи, когда размещал на депозитах средства, превышающие более половины капитализации биржи? Вполне разумным предполагать, что рано или поздно, но клиент будет выводить деньги. Какой-то нелепый подход к ведению бизнеса. Roll Eyes

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"...FTX предоставила клиентские средства Alameda Research для финансирования рискованных операций..."
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И такие люди управляют и создают крипто биржи? Shocked Ну ни чему их жизнь не учит.
Вполне разумным предполагать, что рано или поздно, но клиент будет выводить деньги. Какой-то нелепый подход к ведению бизнеса. Roll Eyes
Ну как раз в крипте плюс минус все такие как Сэм из FTX. Крипта сама по себе рискованный актив, поэтому и пробиваются первыми тут самые "отбитые" и рисковые. Визионеры так сказать.
Хотя все они от Виталика до CZ и Сэма больше на номиналов похожи, а рулят видимо там совсем другие люди.

Ибо что FTX, что Binance без нормальной крыши врядли бы так "стрельнули". Когда и от всяких регуляторов отбивались и с фондами на короткой ноге были, и в розыске никто не побывал.  
С учетом инфы что та же бинанс с органами РФ бодро сотрудничает и все нужные контакты выдает по первому щелчку, можно сделать вывод, что ребята глубоко в теме и знаем с кем и как работать.

 Возможно FTX вообще утянула на тот свет не медвежка в крипте, а просадка акций техногигантов и фондов и видимо кто-то попросил свои деньги обратно, а в условиях ставки FTX на всякие шиткоины и рекламы болидов, кэша там было мало и по логике полезли туда, куда и следовало ожидать, в карман пользователей, "конфисковав лишнее", но в итоге видимо не срослось.

Вообще странно что при таких потерях и уроне для всех Сэм еще не всплыл где-то как паренек из Maker DAO(кажется), который что-то репостнул в твиттере про правительство или ЦРУ и потом в ночь пошел плавать лицом вниз.  
  
1942  Local / Майнеры / Re: Серия RTX 4000 on: November 12, 2022, 04:03:39 PM
Судя по окупаемости скоро Nvidia и AMD карты будут бесплатно раздавать.
Особенно нравится 4я серия с потреблением в 1кв/т. С учетом роста цен на электроэнергию, это как раз то, что ждут люди.
Надеюсь того, кто отвечал за создание LHR и за выход 4й серии наградят в компании значком каким-нибудь.
Время выхода подобрано филигранно конечно. Мало того что медвежка сама по себе веселая, так еще и под POS эфира.
Отличное комбо от Nvidia конечно.
Кстати прайс на акцию тоже улетел с хаев 330 баксов (ноябрь 2021) до 150 сейчас.
Практически как цены на видюхи в магазинах наверное. 
1943  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: [ANN][KMD] Komodo - Пepвый Фopк ZСash c Зaщитoй Биткoинa on: November 12, 2022, 03:48:36 PM
А кто пампил его в том году?

А что не пампилось в том году?  Grin
Да в прошлом году пропампилось даже Комодо! 4 бакса сейчас почти недостижимая вершина, как из другой жизни.
Сейчас цена идет к уровню Julien'a - 10 центов.
Обидно что даже сейчас, с учетом огосивание FTX не заставит людей перейти на Dex и видимо каких-то плюшек с этого Комодо не поимеет.
https://nomics.com/exchanges/atomicdex  объемы на декс комода примерно такие же, как и полгода назад 3-5к в день. 

Может через пару лет, потихоньку начнут подтягиваться на DEX, но будет ли Комодо к тому моменту, большой вопрос.  
1944  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Последний вагон на север on: November 12, 2022, 03:41:37 PM
Хамяха не лгал, FTX обнесли сегодня в ночь на $100+ млн. История с гоксом уже всем поднадоела за эти годы, теперь у нас будет новый гокс  Grin
А еще говорят что контр-индикатор так себе. По моему за последнее время это его "точнейший" прогноз.
Комменты к видео как отдельный вид искусства.
Все еще интересно как он додумался влезть в этот FTX накануне последней бойни.

Пишут что какой-то неназванный хакер (как обычно чисто случайно, мимо проходил видимо) взломал биржу и вывел 160 млн.
Плюс тезер заморозил 46 мультов принадлежащих FTX.
Реклама POS POW и децентрализации в действии. 

Видимо не только на Уолл стрит так, но и в крипте тоже. 
«Уолл-Стрит никогда не меняется, меняются деньги, меняются участники, меняются акции, но Уолл-Стрит никогда не меняется, потому что не меняется природа человека»
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1947  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Who will win, FTX or BINANCE? on: November 11, 2022, 06:44:28 PM
Recent news says FTX has filed for bankruptcy in the US. This situation led to the resignation of President Sam Bankman-Fried.

You can see the press release on twitter: https://twitter.com/FTX_Official/status/1591071832823959552

I wonder if it will bring another sharp drop in the market, or people were already prepared for it.

People already knew it will happen but with every bad news the bitcoin price will fall again and again. Yesterday we had a pump of 1000$ in bitcoin price as a result of CPI data but today we again see a big dump and bitcoin is again 16500$. The market is too much volatile and every dump bring 10-30% altcoins crash. Not a good time to see the markets.

About the question whether who will win between FTX and Binance, it does not even matter because in the end, only the crypto adoption will suffer.
In fact, the market has not yet realized the extent of the disaster, otherwise instead of yesterday's growth, there would have been the expected fall. FTX liabilities exceed 8 billion, it is a big amount and there is nowhere to take it, so soon I think we should see bitcoin at 15,000 and lower. I think when everyone understands that the second crypto exchange in the world is going bankrupt, the fall will be very strong.
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1949  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Последний вагон на север on: November 11, 2022, 12:56:47 PM
А Горан то прав оказался. 9 ноября, ровно через год от ноябрьского пика, мы минимум и нарисовали на рынке.
Там вроде чисто механика. Заканчиваются одни фьючерсы и начинаются другие.

Еще интересно почему рост пошел? По идее FTX я так понял банкрот, сам Сэм где-то на бермудах задержан писали вроде.
Видимо сейчас судорожно вспоминает приватники от ключей или наоборот по островам бегает холодные кошельки закапывает.

Почему растет FTX вообще отдельная загадка? Ладно весь рынок, там может быть заранее был договорняк или кто-то заранее знал про дыру у Аламеды и решил грамотно воспользоваться, но FTX то куда растет? Его сам хамаха его жестко приговорил.
Вообщем одни загадки пока.
 
1950  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is "Solana" Will be the Next to get Killed.. on: November 11, 2022, 12:48:05 PM
Its a very tough time for Solana to be honest. I still think Solana has a really good tech and ecosystem but at the same time the current events show that it will be very very hard for Solana to recover from the sudden dump.
Only time will tell if the support for Solana is still present or all of them have sold their bags.
I was a strong supporter of sol once but due to outages I cut short my bag of SOL.
I still hold some of it though which is why I am concerned about the dump.
Difficult times are an understatement.
Tomorrow the 60 million of Sol should hit the market and I think the rate will fly down like a stone off a cliff.
https://solanacompass.com/validators/change
The project has almost no support, solana network periodically fails, the funders have kept most of the distribution (oh, this greed). In general, all the conditions for the collapse of the project, we will wait.
5 hours remaining before unstake,? wow that was huge amount of Sol going to flood in the market for sure whale stakers who got liquidated in the last 24 hours will dump SOL and buy bitcoin lets see what will happen after 5 hours, can we see another huge price crash in the market?
While the price of Solana has stabilized, I do not think that everyone will immediately start to sell the SOL because it will be an automatic collapse, and I think no one wants to go badly into minus. Therefore, I think they will wait for a more favorable moment to sell Solana for 10 or 15 dollars, because it's cheap, right? After all, and took 200, which means that the 10 is just free.
Although in the long term, the project is most likely over.

Seems like people did not dump their SOL after unstaking because we did not see a major impact on the price.
It did went down to $12 but currently its around $18 which is not bad thanks to minor pump.
I hope things get settled down here and no further dump occurs in the market. Enough of bleeding already.
Solana has a lot of large holders, and the distribution itself there was also essentially among the founders and large funds.
It is clear that now they are not interested in the price of SOL to fall, they want to leave it with the maximum profit, although at the premarket price there was less than $ 1. That's why they almost got their profit.
1951  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Who will win, FTX or BINANCE? on: November 11, 2022, 12:37:04 PM


I believe that after this incident, we will be under stricter control from the government and strict laws will be enacted soon, bad things are still waiting for us ahead.
They're already in the radar and that's why officials from different governments don't trust the market because it can moved by these events.

Everything happened so fast, just as I feared, that the government would make excuses to enter the market and would start to control us. Perhaps it was clear who would win, the government had enough reason to start controlling us. Once the government intervenes we will lose our freedom and one thing I fear more is they will stifle our development.
https://cryptoslate.com/secs-gensler-says-more-investor-protection-is-needed-after-ftx-fiasco/

This is the most exciting dramatic script I have seen in recent years, and their game has already begun.
And when CZ discovered something, he knew that the opportunity was coming, and publicly decided to sell the $2.1 billion FTT they held, CZ put the game created by SBF into a death spiral
I do not think that CZ originally intended to destroy FTX, here, as in the perfect storm coincided with several conditions, most importantly the bear market and a very risky policy of FTX. Apparently initially CZ thought to buy FTX, but when he saw the hole in the company's balance sheet, he realized that there was essentially nothing to buy. Both the FTX and Sam are apparently bankrupt.
From the very beginning when both claimed to have reached an agreement to purchase, I did not believe it to be true. If CZ buys FTX, he will definitely be sued for antitrust law. Binance is currently the leading exchange, owning more FTX will not help CZ expand the market faster, but it is better to eliminate a strong competitor.
Rumor has it that the head of FTX was sort of detained in Bermuda. I don't know if this is true or not, but apparently Sam is in big trouble.
So CZ wins without a doubt. He is at least free and Binance continues to work.
We do not know everything with FTX itself, what is it with liquidity, as if not to have to take it over later Binance, in order to prevent a complete bankruptcy.
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1953  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: November 10, 2022, 01:37:45 PM
Atletico madrid can't end their bad run. Atletico madrid are not doing much better after losing 1-0 away to mallorca. tch anyway.

I was surprised Atletico lost. Even mallorca's goals are made of good schemes. Although Mallorca have to defend a lot and rely on counterattacks. Atletico Madrid are not without chances,they have a lot of chances. In fact they were able to make a goal, but mallorca were happy that Var thwarted it. In addition, I see that the Mallorca goalkeeper's performance is also very good. some of Morata's chances, which should have been goals, failed due to his good performances.
Ateltico has not won any of their last five matches, 2 draws and 3 losses. So the players are in a terrible state of morale, the departure from the Champions League and not falling in the Europa League, the team is in 6th place in La Liga. It's clear that all this pressure on the players, hence the defeats, such as against Mallorca.
Apparently it's time for Simeone to make some serious conclusions. 
1954  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Who will win, FTX or BINANCE? on: November 10, 2022, 01:28:17 PM
This is the most exciting dramatic script I have seen in recent years, and their game has already begun.
And when CZ discovered something, he knew that the opportunity was coming, and publicly decided to sell the $2.1 billion FTT they held, CZ put the game created by SBF into a death spiral
I do not think that CZ originally intended to destroy FTX, here, as in the perfect storm coincided with several conditions, most importantly the bear market and a very risky policy of FTX. Apparently initially CZ thought to buy FTX, but when he saw the hole in the company's balance sheet, he realized that there was essentially nothing to buy. Both the FTX and Sam are apparently bankrupt.
1955  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is "Solana" Will be the Next to get Killed.. on: November 10, 2022, 05:43:45 AM
Its a very tough time for Solana to be honest. I still think Solana has a really good tech and ecosystem but at the same time the current events show that it will be very very hard for Solana to recover from the sudden dump.
Only time will tell if the support for Solana is still present or all of them have sold their bags.
I was a strong supporter of sol once but due to outages I cut short my bag of SOL.
I still hold some of it though which is why I am concerned about the dump.
Difficult times are an understatement.
Tomorrow the 60 million of Sol should hit the market and I think the rate will fly down like a stone off a cliff.
https://solanacompass.com/validators/change
The project has almost no support, solana network periodically fails, the funders have kept most of the distribution (oh, this greed). In general, all the conditions for the collapse of the project, we will wait.
5 hours remaining before unstake,? wow that was huge amount of Sol going to flood in the market for sure whale stakers who got liquidated in the last 24 hours will dump SOL and buy bitcoin lets see what will happen after 5 hours, can we see another huge price crash in the market?
While the price of Solana has stabilized, I do not think that everyone will immediately start to sell the SOL because it will be an automatic collapse, and I think no one wants to go badly into minus. Therefore, I think they will wait for a more favorable moment to sell Solana for 10 or 15 dollars, because it's cheap, right? After all, and took 200, which means that the 10 is just free.
Although in the long term, the project is most likely over.
1956  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is "Solana" Will be the Next to get Killed.. on: November 09, 2022, 06:49:25 PM
Its a very tough time for Solana to be honest. I still think Solana has a really good tech and ecosystem but at the same time the current events show that it will be very very hard for Solana to recover from the sudden dump.
Only time will tell if the support for Solana is still present or all of them have sold their bags.
I was a strong supporter of sol once but due to outages I cut short my bag of SOL.
I still hold some of it though which is why I am concerned about the dump.
Difficult times are an understatement.
Tomorrow the 60 million of Sol should hit the market and I think the rate will fly down like a stone off a cliff.
https://solanacompass.com/validators/change
The project has almost no support, solana network periodically fails, the funders have kept most of the distribution (oh, this greed). In general, all the conditions for the collapse of the project, we will wait.
1957  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Последний вагон на север on: November 09, 2022, 06:39:04 PM
Было бы неплохо закупиться под такое дело, если дадут такую возможность. Кстати, будет смешно, если биткоин пробьёт 18к и полетит на 17к и вниз. Будет почти точное повторение сценария 2018 года, когда биток долгое время находился на отметке 6к, а потом из-за биткоин кеша полетел на 5к и ниже.

Ну, справедливости ради, они весь октябрь делали полку по эфиру. Было бы логично ее пробить и...  Roll Eyes

FTT уже 3,5 бакса  Roll Eyes

BNB на этом фоне выглядит как скала  Grin Странно что солану не укатали, видимо Аламеда/ФТХ ее не продают из резервов.

FTT ниже 3 баксов. Найти уровень поддержки на логарифмическом графике не удается...
Вроде тут уже запостили https://solanacompass.com/validators/change
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2235093.msg61263659#msg61263659

Я так понимаю завтра 60 млн SOL выльется на берег. Будет жарко.
 
С другой стороны чего ждать от проекта в котором толи 97, толи 98% оставили себе заботливые фаундеры,  сеть которых периодически отваливалась на часок другой, видимо делала перерыв.
Итог очевиден. Очередной POS убийца кого-то там не сработал, хотя всему прогрессивному человечеству давно известно, что POW это старо, немодно и вообще экологию убивает.
Про многомиллонные потери на солане аламеде и прочих экологи почему-то не напоминают.

А вообще уже в который раз биток летит вниз и все летит за ним, и перспективное и не очень, без особой разницы. По сути опять без/вне биткоина жизни в крипте нет.

И вообще все эти "искусственные сжатия" спроса, когда под ATH битка подгоняли новости, про отток битка с бирж, что типа цена должна вырасти.
Так и с соланой, как не изголялся ММ, но без спроса, можно хоть 1 солану оставить и не разогнать цену от слова совсем.
Ибо без спроса крипта, как неуловимый джо, никому нафиг не нужен.
 
  
1958  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: November 09, 2022, 05:39:14 AM
PSG is at the better side of winning the match with a skillful and good attackers that the team has. Messi and Neymar have played together as a team in Barca and we saw how great the combination was that season. It will not be a surprise if PSG will be playing the final game.

Discipline and morale have always been the weaknesses of PSG, so I would not say that in the pair PSG - Bayern, the favorite is PSG.
Yes, Messi plays for PSG and plays as if he has entered his second youth, but it is not easy to play against disciplined and motivated Bayern, it's still not a passing team.
Also Bayern has an extremely balanced squad and there is always a replacement for almost every player (maybe except Neuer), such as Lewandowski.
One of the best strikers in the world left club, but Bayern easily found his replacement and barely noticed his departure.
1959  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is the bear market over? on: November 09, 2022, 05:27:41 AM
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The market has been quiet for a couple of days and that quiet was broken today in a negative way. We saw a nice sharp drop after a long time. I see this as an indication that the market is still in the bear market. For now, we have returned to $ 17,200 in bitcoin. I don't know if it will continue. In Ethereum, we saw $ 1,235. We can say that Ftt has already disappeared. However, Solana also had a bad fall.

Yes, we are still experiencing bearish market that showed that people can still buy Bitcoin, Ethereum and Solana in this season and hold for the green light to remain stable before they can sell to make a passive profits in the market. I think, the decreased of the crypto price few days ago is to allow those that missed the opportunity to buy crypto to use this period to buy huge amount of bitcoins, Ethereum and Solana, because their future will be bright for those that will make up their minds to invest on those coins in this bearish season that is preparing to end any moment from this week.
I don't think the bear market will end anytime soon, judging by the way all cryptocurrencies were falling, all without exception by more than 10%. I think bitcoin hasn't reached its minimum values yet, and we haven't seen a complete surrender of miners and traders, which means the bear market is still in full swing.
Last time bitcoin bottomed at 3,000-4,000 thousand, which turns out to be 20-25% of the last market high of 20,000. So we should be expecting 12,000-15,000 for bitcoin
1960  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: November 08, 2022, 03:21:00 PM
When I saw the results of Round 16's many stunning decisions, I grinned. It will be difficult for the qualifiers. Liverpool might not be in good shape this season, but they shouldn't be underrated. Napoli vs. Frankfurt with Napoli current performance should beat Frankfurt watching their performance in serial A and the other two matches that will be an entertaining are Dortmund vs. Chelsea and PSG playing Bayern. Let's see what each of these teams can do. Man City is playing against Leipzig is a starting bonus for Man City.
About Napoli vs Frankfurt i think Frankfurt will be tough opponent for Napoli although from their recent matches Napoli was better but Frankfurt lately has showed impressive performance and this team since last season has never stopped to surprising me and as defending champion of Europa league i will counted Frankfurt as one of dark horses team with their potention to beat strong team and besides that they also has successfully sent Sporting to Europa league which is most people has thought Frankfurt will be eliminate but they can fliped people predictions and qualified so this time Napoli has get decent opponent who possibly can make them slipped
I don't think Frankfurt will be a serious obstacle for Napoli and just because Frankfurt beat Celtic doesn't mean they can beat Napoli. True, this game is still four months away and no one knows how things will go for both clubs. But I think Napoli are in contention to play in the final this season.
Napoli has been playing just great lately getting out of such a difficult group, uncontested wins over Ajax and 11 wins out of 13 matches in Serie A speaks for itself, but you can't write off Frankfurt right away. Frankfurt also got out of the group, and last year in the european league it was also not considered seriously.
In general, it will be a great game of attacking Napoli against a dark place from Frankfurt where every team has a chance.
 
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