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1941  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - Refund/Account Change Requests & Complaints on: June 14, 2014, 04:25:13 PM
BE ADVISED EVERYONE! YOU'LL NEED TO PAY THE TX-FEE FOR THE ASSET TRANSFER UPFRONT! 1 NXT TO NXT-97MX-EWKV-CGKX-DA5WH!

Plz send it from the NXT Account that the token is supposed to be issued to.

Thanks.

@patmast3r,

how about the account change?

I saw the old account change/refund thread has been locked.
Is it the same process as in the old thread for account change?

Yes the process is the same as in the old thread.
The message you qoted was actually meant for another thread.

Yes I know that. So just post the application here. is it right?

Yes, if you want a refund or need an account change you can post the application here.
1942  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - Refund/Account Change Requests & Complaints on: June 14, 2014, 03:32:07 PM
BE ADVISED EVERYONE! YOU'LL NEED TO PAY THE TX-FEE FOR THE ASSET TRANSFER UPFRONT! 1 NXT TO NXT-97MX-EWKV-CGKX-DA5WH!

Plz send it from the NXT Account that the token is supposed to be issued to.

Thanks.

@patmast3r,

how about the account change?

I saw the old account change/refund thread has been locked.
Is it the same process as in the old thread for account change?

Yes the process is the same as in the old thread.
The message you qoted was actually meant for another thread.
1943  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - NEMstake Tokens Listed on NXT Asset Exchange on: June 14, 2014, 03:16:02 PM
YOU NEED TO SEND 1 NXT TO NXT-97MX-EWKV-CGKX-DA5WH AS TX FEE BEFORE BEING ISSUED AN ASSET

I can't keep answering every pm as it's getting a little overwhelming.
1944  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 14, 2014, 12:48:35 PM
I am closer to UF than u would ever expect Smiley
yes, like black and white...
Support the  NEM  Official Thread Cheesy
+1
Hmm... come from ass... are you support NEM? this is joke! go away from this thread. you just peace of nothing...

Absolutely agree with You!
Dear EFFV, would you be kind enough to remove all c.f.a. posts from NEM thread!
Best Regards to NEM COMMUNITY!

Please don't remove anything. That would just feed the trolls again.
Just hit the ignore button like I did and your das becomes instantly better Smiley
1945  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 14, 2014, 08:36:33 AM
I was issued all 570 tokens by UP. They are now in my posession until I continue to issue them to stakeholders upon request which happens as soon as they pay the necessary tx fee.

As I've promised you multiple times - UP came through. He didn't run off with the tokens or sell them.
I hope the hysteria about what is going to happen with access to important stuff can stop now.

There's nothing stopping us form moving on so please let's just do it Smiley

So in this spirit let's bring this thread back to topic.


What are you looking forward the most during the open alpha ?  Grin
1946  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - NEMstake Tokens Listed on NXT Asset Exchange on: June 14, 2014, 07:24:21 AM
I believe all tokens have been issued, is that right Patmast3r?

No. Only 430 have been issued to stakeholders.
1947  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - Refund/Account Change Requests & Complaints on: June 13, 2014, 09:30:05 PM
cool, thanks when you get a chance, please add my stake to be delievered via nxt ae to nxt acct 2319251

why is your acc number so short ? It seems to be valid but i've never seen such a short one Smiley
1948  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: {NEW ECONOMY MOVEMENT} (--NEW--) NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 13, 2014, 06:52:33 PM
Let's get one thing straight: I'm NOT the new leader or antyhing like that.
UPs tasks have been distributed among a couple of people.
If anyone is UPs successor it's Jaguar.
1949  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: {NEW ECONOMY MOVEMENT} (--NEW--) NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 13, 2014, 06:36:39 PM
Are the next asset tokens secure? Who has possession of the nem asset tokens now?

patmast3r, he is trustworthy. I am sure that they are secure.

-EFFV

BE ADVISED! I'M TAKING REQUESTS FOR TOKENS BUT I'M NOT ABLE TO ISSUE THEM IMMEDIATELY! SHOW SOME PATIENCE. THANK YOU!

Since people seem to be trusting me i feel obligated to state that I do NOT YET have access to the NXT account that holds the tokens.
I will be given acccess though so your requests for tokens are being added to the list and I'll be issuing them as soon as i can.

Since i have already received quite a few requests I'd like to remind people that nothing has changed other than organisational stuff.
The very same developers are behind NEM and they will continue do to a bang up job. Don't be stupid and dump your stakes.

The assets need to be handed over right away or trading halted!

he will not have access until tuesday he just said and that is not even sure. Nem is doomed at the moment

I think I'll be in possesion of the stakes by tuesday.
Shocked Shocked Shocked

enough time for utopianfuture to dump as much stakes as possible on the buy orders. in fact if he is sane in his mind he will sell as much stakes as possible before running away from the sunken project

Man...you really are a certified schizo. You make a thread dedicated to you apologizing for causing so much fud yet you continue to spread FUD.

UP WOULD LIKE TO HAND THE TOKENS OVER RIGHT NOW. THE ONLY REASON HE DOESN'T IS BECAUSE I CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO MY NXT ACCOUNT.

I'm actually trying to change that right now. I'm trying to get 64 random chars over the phone without a typo. This will be intersting  Grin
1950  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - NEMstake Tokens Listed on NXT Asset Exchange on: June 13, 2014, 06:30:58 PM
Ah, okay then. Any timetable for when tokens can be given out again?

they/we are still all waiting if utopianfuture runs off with the tokens or not. as soon as utopianfuture decides then patmaster has access or not

Since they are simply tokens, not real coins, I'd think there wouldn't be a whole lot of sense of 'running away with them'.  I'd hope it's mostly just an administrative issue at this point.

That's correct.
In fact the only thing that is keeping UP from sending the tokens to my NXT account is that I currently don't have access to my paranoid 64 char password Smiley
I think I'll be in possesion of the stakes by tuesday.
1951  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - NEMstake Tokens Listed on NXT Asset Exchange on: June 13, 2014, 06:13:49 PM
I've never used that nxt asset exchange before, so am wondering if anyone can help with some newbie questions.

Do we simply trade using our nxt accounts, or go to that website linked here and somehow trade there?
Do we need to own some nxt before using the exchange? And we sell tokens for nxt?


I haven't requested tokens yet, as clearly I have no idea how this even all works. Just checking beforehand if I do want to go the token route.



If you request a token you'll get one issued to your nxt account. You can then trade that token (or parts of it) against nxt.
1952  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: {NEW ECONOMY MOVEMENT} (--NEW--) NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 13, 2014, 06:08:50 PM
patmast3r let me ask u something. U joined Bitcointalk January 27, 2014, 04:13:55 PM when NEM was around. Yet u undeniable seem to have clearly been in crypto for a longer time then that.

what is ur main account?

You are right I have been into cryptos before I registered patmast3r on btt.
The truth is I had no btt account before that. I just never felt compelled to register. With all the trolling and unnecessary insults i thought it was better to just read instead of post.
When NEM was introdudced I had to make an account to register for a stake so i did.  
1953  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - NEMstake Tokens Listed on NXT Asset Exchange on: June 13, 2014, 05:49:31 PM
Hey, Kudos to the developers for stepping-up and recovering ::)I want to purchase NEMSTAKE. I am new to this, so I have a few questions. Please clear them.

-I can just go to the NXT client AE and buy NEMSTAKE and I can buy a maximum of TWO NEMSTAKES??
-Do I need to to request Patmastr3 before buying or I can just PM him after buying the assets on NXT AE?

But I am confused because I have read in the official thread that a single person can only get 1 million NEM or can I buy 2 stakes to get 2 million NEMs?? Also when is the trial version coming out?? I would be happy to try it out!!
Thanks.  Grin

You can trade NEMstake on the AE like any other stake - no need to contact me.
You'd only have to contact me if you are a stakeholder already and you'd like to have your stake issued as asset on the AE.
1954  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: {NEW ECONOMY MOVEMENT} (--NEW--) NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 13, 2014, 05:27:50 PM
NEM will be distributed to over 2000 people by the time it gets released

On the bright side, all this attention has made people like myself more aware of NEM and I was able to buy part of a stake in the AE.  So with people like me who are not part of the IPO but buying on the AE, the distribution is getting even better  Grin

Sounds good!

Wait patmaster, you mean utopianfuture still has all the Token issue rights? Wow that is intense

UF should just continue, the fake retirenment is really somewhat lame

My personal opinion is that UF didn't have to resign, and I wouldn't have problem if he didn't. He did HELL OF GREAT JOB for nem.

You don't see it, as you are poor troll spreading FUD.

Yeah I'm kinda with gimre on this.
UP made a hell of a mistake but without him none of us would be here so he still deserves some props for that.
I have also no doubt that he'll be handing over access to everything soon. If I were him I'd be offline for a couple of days too...to comprehend what the hell just happend.

What many people don't see is that UP in no way wanted to gain from his socks or hurt NEM (at least that's my take on it). Of course this is just what he tells us but I actually believe him.
He stated in the irc that he would be stepping down way before there was a poll or even before there were threads demanding his head. He joined the irc channel and had nothing but the best course of action for NEM on his mind. Those are not the actions of a scammer but of a sensible guy who made mistakes.  
1955  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: {NEW ECONOMY MOVEMENT} (--NEW--) NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 13, 2014, 05:00:05 PM
Are the next asset tokens secure? Who has possession of the nem asset tokens now?

patmast3r, he is trustworthy. I am sure that they are secure.

-EFFV

BE ADVISED! I'M TAKING REQUESTS FOR TOKENS BUT I'M NOT ABLE TO ISSUE THEM IMMEDIATELY! SHOW SOME PATIENCE. THANK YOU!

Since people seem to be trusting me i feel obligated to state that I do NOT YET have access to the NXT account that holds the tokens.
I will be given acccess though so your requests for tokens are being added to the list and I'll be issuing them as soon as i can.

Since i have already received quite a few requests I'd like to remind people that nothing has changed other than organisational stuff.
The very same developers are behind NEM and they will continue do to a bang up job. Don't be stupid and dump your stakes.
1956  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: {NEW ECONOMY MOVEMENT} (--NEW--) NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 13, 2014, 04:39:51 PM
NEM will be distributed to over 2000 people by the time it gets released

On the bright side, all this attention has made people like myself more aware of NEM and I was able to buy part of a stake in the AE.  So with people like me who are not part of the IPO but buying on the AE, the distribution is getting even better  Grin

That's awesome Smiley
1957  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - Refund/Account Change Requests & Complaints on: June 13, 2014, 04:35:53 PM
BE ADVISED! I'M TAKING REQUESTS FOR TOKENS BUT I'M NOT ABLE TO ISSUE THEM IMMEDIATELY! SHOW SOME PATIENCE. THANK YOU!
1958  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: {NEW ECONOMY MOVEMENT} (--NEW--) NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 13, 2014, 12:03:02 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak91SD0veCeddDdmTkdaWV8zbHp2dWlodDVEVUItbXc&usp=sharing

This is the new list that will be used from now on.

I put the ghosthouse issueance back on it so everything is public and for completeness sake.
Only I have access to this list so UP can't change anthing anymore.

I've adviced everyone to exchange the links but it'll take some time.
1959  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: {NEW ECONOMY MOVEMENT} (--NEW--) NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 13, 2014, 11:01:43 AM
We have already gone through multiple series of taint analysis. We have moved past that stage and should now be concerned with marketing and development.

As a stakeholder of Nem I would like to ask:  how many stakes does UP hold?


None knows for sure. He did remove 1 that was uncovered during the recent fallout and he told me that the others were removed during the audit.
If true he owns 1 stake + what he get's as founder and for his work.
He also said that he never meant to cash out any of them anyway.

It's up the you if you're going to believe this or not. Think about what happend though. Mistakes were uncovered and he immediately stepped down. That doesn't sound like someone who was just in it for the money. He could have left with all the raised funds months ago.
1960  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: {NEW ECONOMY MOVEMENT} (--NEW--) NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 13, 2014, 09:24:43 AM
Also the idea for the auction came from the community so it wasn't designed to milk anyone unless the idea was to milk themselves ?
It's one thing to display concerns but it's just wrong to spread completely incorrect facts.

Maybe I wasn't paying attention if that idea came from community. As far as I am concerned,  auction mean selling stakes for bitcoins that obviously are not distributed to community but go again to the "developers"

200 stakes sold at 2 BTC average, 400 BTCm, $250,000.

Nice profit.

Where did you even get the information that those would be goign to the devs ?

As usual all attacks against NEM are based on assumptions and missconceptions.

Also there's the posibillity to get refunded. Maybe you should think about that if everything sucks so hard.
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