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I searched for it whether they have a thread here but found only the ones created by users. An exchange doesn't have a thread here in bitcointalk looks seemingly out of touch. I'm surprise the users above me had found and use the exchange. An investor who are particularly wanting to avoid scam would rather hold their coin in their personal wallet than send it to an unknown exchange.
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If you have no plans of holding I guess dumping would be easy especially if you have invested to an ICO with great amount of bonus. If they believe to the project they will buy back but for those who have dumped and find out the project did well after, regrets will also be with them. This probably had happened most of the time to the bounty hunters who just sell for BTC.
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what do people think ??
Once a year reached a new peak, last year was $ 1,500, this year will be $ 2,000 "may"
Yes in the year 2018 ethereum can reach 2k, although currently fall but I believe in the year 2018 ethereum can increase to 2k at the end of the year. If Bitcoin will again rock the world of crypto, there is a possibility that ETH will also be benefitted but not as what they want it, I think 1K is reachable rather than 2k though prediction is limitless, but I know that a competition will arise if the said situation will come, some other good coins will also be in top pick, maybe if Bitcoin will surpass the 2017 ath record then 2k is obtainable. We'll soon find out what the market dictates when the prices stables, as of now its very unclear where the market is going. It could either drop deeper or it can go up in a slow pace. But for ETH it can shoot up easily due to the demands of it. The ICOs today aren't getting much ETH though so some are probably just holding for they don't know when it can really go high as fast as it can. |
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From an investor point of view, I'm losing money every day. Despite latest news, market conditions are bad and Atlant tanked again. Only a week before next bounty distribution. We all know that after the first week of each month we will see another deep. So again I will be losing money and crazy to think like this now but maybe better to sell and buy back for 0,03 in few weeks. I would have double amount of tokens. If I don't hold only do this few months ago I would be in much better position right now. I understand commitment and that there is no working product but maybe this is the reason why HODL strategy didn't work. Every month we think that this is the lowest price and a few days later we see another 15% correction. How much longer?
I can note that now almost every second loses its money who invested in this project and can do something else. While the price of bitcoin does not become normal will not grow at least 10 000 thousand dollars, we can say that we are all in the red. rising of the price of bitcoin will not help to ivestors or those who bought when it was 2 dollars, if platform will not be launched. we need to wait this platform. Its unfortunate for those investors who bought at $2 nothings left to do. If you are in the mercy of the teams will then nothing is to be done but wait if you want to profit. If its a time consuming process for you, take the risk of selling at loss and invest to a progressive project. |
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I wouldn't say got tired though. When market drops, the investors have probably though of buying more on the tokens that can yield higher profit for themselves than a new project that is very uncertain. Disappointing for team wanting to develop a good project for the crypto community but its going to be fulfilling for them if they still continue without much funds.
But, you know, when the market goes down forever, investors will consider buying it because they feel afraid, and think the market will continue to fall. I'm not getting where you are going. If the market goes down below $1000/BTC, those investors will just move their money to usdt before it will even happen until such time the market calms down. They would prefer buying BTC back and most probably ETH and EOS to assure profit by the time of bullrun. They will completely ignore the ICOs and the new tokens that had come out a year ago all for the profit. They will start investing to ICO when they take profit already. |
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It might even go below $2000 if all are going to be pulling thier funds now so expect the worse. You might wanna just buy when they all are pumping coins.
I have withdraw all my money even from the tokens I have kept for years, even spend the WAVES token I have now. I don't think I'm gonna buy again but will stick to ETH soon when the whales are going to be pumping up to $600. $600 might be the best price to buy back ETH. For now just keep your money or spend it to buy something else.
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Can I invest in other cryptocurrency apart of ETH?
Ethereum is the only cryptocurrency available to invest in the Selfpay tokensale and is the equivalence between SxP and ETH? 1 Ethereum are 300 SxP Why so expensive? I know they are registered on singapore government which is why this project is becoming serious but the price seem to be overly bloated by the team. Whats the total supply of these tokens if you guys knew? I don't see them regularly here in the forum anymore unlike when they were defending their scam accusations. |
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I wouldn't say got tired though. When market drops, the investors have probably though of buying more on the tokens that can yield higher profit for themselves than a new project that is very uncertain. Disappointing for team wanting to develop a good project for the crypto community but its going to be fulfilling for them if they still continue without much funds.
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Both of them are good. ETH is just the first to have projects which have been progressive now, give it some time and NEO will fast forward its development. NEO has GAS which makes it very attractive to investors. ETH is already on the sky while NEO has just heating its engine. Both of them are on the top of the ranking in terms of marketcap.
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Unfortunately though there are just people investing to ICO without the team's profile. But then some weren't scam even when there is no team's ID too.
Some projects just have fake linkedin profiles and anyone can tell whether the project can possibly be materialized. One thing that I always look for to see to it that it isn't a scam is when the team involves with known individuals and reputable companies behind it.
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No one deserves pumps and dumps. All Alts prices are connected to Bitcoin!
Cryptos are imploding and I believe there is worse to come!
Welcome to hell!
Amazing. You should just calm down yourself mate! The market is not hell but it is just so new and volatile to sensitive stuff around the market. This market is more or less unregulated and works on the basis of public ledger and wilful developments of people. You can not expect much from it unless and until you wont contribute something to it. Crypto currencies have pumps and dumps because bunch of people believe in artificial profit making and they try to manipulate everything here. You can not just scare yourself with such small issue. If you are here then you have to wait for the right momento very partially and live the success. For someone who put his faith to crypto would be disappointed with what had been happening to his funds. He hope to earn but were instead stolen from him. I did panic the very first time I lost it more than half of my capital. I can understand what OP is feeling, maybe its his hard earned money. This is why its not good to actually spend your money that is suppose to be spent on your table. |
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I will suggest you to split this in two parts and invest in ETH and BTC. Expect at least 4x in one year and 100x in next 10 years.
To be honest, when investing such a small amount I would never invest in Ethereum and Bitcoin. Your 4x in one year is not supported, and I do not think an ROI of x100 in 10 years is nonsense.. Agree. $1000 isn't enough. With the current rate of $440, how much ETH can you get with that alone is just 2 ETH, what would you do to that? Unless you're good at selling and buying back to accumulate more. If you are to hold for long term, buy at least a coin that you can own more than a thousand so that when a price goes 2x you doubled your money already. ADA would be good for its less than a dollar. |
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Anything that isn't their control are opposed. They all can manage to buy all bitcoins, that isn't going to be a problem to them. But then there are other cryptocurrencies coming out almost every day and crypto works differently which is why anyone can bank their wealth on a wallet they own which makes them irrelevant in a way. Crypto has the higher chance of winning against them than the petro dollar of the middle east that is why they are attacking.
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You must be crazy to think ANY ERC-20 token will be able to rally in this current bear market. Conditions must be met first: 1. Bitcoin stops falling, must go into rangebound price action 2. Ethereum must recover, rally or go range-bound. And only then you will see ATL go wild. Traders and investors don't like uncertainty in the whole crypto markets.
I hope that soon the bear market will end, since I heard that the Bitcoins of the Mt. Gox. Sold, or almost sold out, it seems to me in such a market it's better to keep bitcoin or Etherium, and when rally starts it's best to be in some currencies with low capitalization, Atlant's tokens will just fit, in the bull market they may have a much better chance to rise multiple times in price than Etherium for example. I thought so too but yesterday Bitcoin price tanked again to 6000$ and I hear in media that this is not the end. There are predictions that will be 5000$ soon and the bear market will last for another 6 months. Not a prediction I wanted to hear, for sure. Anyway, I like the fact that the ATL tokens are not dumping below 1,000 satoshis, in spite of the carnage recently with BTC dumping to $5700. Maybe the dumpers are saying this is too cheap to sell at. Imagine Atlant back at 3 million marketcap? That's a marketcap of a "Until now just a whitepaper" project. There is a big possibility that it will dump below if bitcoin will continue to dump. We know that the market is followed by the movement of bitcoin, even a good project is not exempted for this price dump as it's the trend even in the past. Maybe so. But what I see is only when Bitcoin dumps to below $4,000, only then we might see Atlant dumping to sub 1,000 satoshis because the ATL token was already trading around 1,200 sats when Bitcoin was in the $7,500 area. Let's hope investors will hold and will still have their confidence on Atlant. Missing the moon time last January 2018 when the price was $2.67, if we will be back their in time, I would really be very happy because I accumulated at this dip. We can hope for better future if atlant continues and valance its ecosystem not only to focus on their real estate market. We know its big and that make the investors build their trust thinking up for long term and a high valued token. The price will be more high if they do some good marketings after this bearish market and to start adding in exchange. They've have to finish a functional product before the marketing after all, what is there to market if there ain't nothing to brag about. The concept is there but the realization isn't yet materialized so. It doesn't have to be sophisticated for alphabeta launch but in time its going to be developed when flaws are discovered. |
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When do you calculate that you launch your app out of Asia?
you can consult this in their roadmap but I think they will launch the selfpay app in 2019 They already have an app. Its the neccesarry partnership that they might have work out now. |
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Its been a decade now when bitcoin started and we have been using it ever since including the businesses that were accepting it, we can consider it a success. There's also ETH which we have been exchanging too, I can't imagine the struggle, it was the most fud token back then now its more than $500 and its widely accepted too. There are more of crypptocurrencies like DASH which are also accepted as mode of payment and more of it.
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Well we can't expect price to go up, even bitcoin price is plunging. Altcoins are going to drop until there is new things coming which right now is too dim to really see. Last year's bull run was really a one big opportunity and those who wasted the opportunity all for expecting bigger profit has to live with it now. I have accepted the reality that I'm going to be waiting for my tokens like Atlant to survive.
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I have join to the whitelist already, when will I get the 10% bonus that you offer for join before the tokensale begins?
Julien Chalté, the CEO of Selfpay, said yesterday, in their telegram group, that we will get the 10% bonus for join to the whitelist before the tokensale begins after the end of the ICO, when tokens are distributed to all contributors Thanks for your answer, man. I've seen that the CEO is use to be, in the telegram us some of you said sometimes. I think i am going to join to the Selfpay telegram to keep informed like you I used to see him here also defending themselves from the users trying to warn them being scam. Now that they have gained trust because of the company listing on singapore government, they are not here anymore. Only those in the telegram that has the information. You will have to scroll from the top of the chatbox if you wanna be informed, it sucks to use telegram. |
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what do people think ??
Once a year reached a new peak, last year was $ 1,500, this year will be $ 2,000 "may"
I am not so optimistic to talk about big cryptocurrencies growth to the end of this year. At last period of time I hear mostly bad news about situation on the market. At the same time I still keep Ethereum and will continue to do it. $2000 seem not possible to happen. It looks like there is the need for people to look for another online job because of this depreciating prices. Seeing how the price had gone down already, that $2000 forecast is unreachable. The pumped in the first months of this year may not happen sooner. |
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If they can profit more in investing to new tokens why not invest to new ICO. Its not illegal anyway so people will jump into ICOs like the telegram ICO. There are lots of potential ICO which is why they did invest to them. No one is forcing anyone to stick to BTC or to ETH.
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