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1941  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crimea on: August 16, 2014, 04:31:47 PM
Observing the Crimeans' responses on Russian-language forums, I'd say that Polushkin, who suggested buying from Ukraine didn't score any goodwill points from the Crimean population, to put it mildly. He's already been branded as traitor.

Another observation stems from a comment of a Crimean, who draws from prior experience of dealing with Ukrainians:
 - It's precisely after such statement that Ukraine will shut off to Crimea everything they can.

People also complain that during the Ukrainian occupation of Crimea, the agriculture of the peninsular was systematically destroyed. Crimea was even forbidden producing their own ice cream.
1942  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sanction against Russia for West-choreographed conflict in Ukraine on: August 16, 2014, 04:25:01 PM
Don't count me as hater. I like the general idea of EU (while watching it from a country that voted twice against joining the EU), but I also see its flaws, which systemically remind of the flaws of USSR.

As you yourself pointed out to me with regard to your attitude towards Russia, criticizing does not mean hating.

I wasn't talking about you specifically but you did think and wrote that this might led the EU to ruin.
I don't think so and I doubt that even turning off all trades with russia might inflict such a serious damage to the union.

Time will tell if any of us is right but I do hope we won't have to pick a winner.

I hope not, too.

However, I do believe that EU stands to lose more if this kindergarten bantering of sanctions, counter-sanctions and counter-counter-sanctions continues. I would have given a different prognosis 6-7 years ago, when European economy was much stronger, but not now. Even though Russian economy saw only a moderate, if any, improvement, European economy has been on a steady downward trend. The problem is the same as in USSR, where there were only a few donor republics, with the rest living off of them. Once donor republic's excess capacity is used up, the system is in a dangerous state. In EU, such donor republics are Germany and France, and they are at the breaking point trying to sustain the union.
1943  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 16, 2014, 02:57:19 PM
Ukraine does not (want to) acknowledge the load from Russia as humanitarian aid, (so they don't let it be sent to the people being massacred in Lugansk):
http://ria.ru/world/20140816/1020267810.html
1944  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sanction against Russia for West-choreographed conflict in Ukraine on: August 16, 2014, 12:07:42 PM
Don't count me as hater. I like the general idea of EU (while watching it from a country that voted twice against joining the EU), but I also see its flaws, which systemically remind of the flaws of USSR.

As you yourself pointed out to me with regard to your attitude towards Russia, criticizing does not mean hating.
1945  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Freedom of press in Ukraine - not on: August 16, 2014, 12:05:28 PM
Journalist Andrej Stenin is still missing. The previous report was denied by the head of SBU. A case is opened and Ukrainian Militia (Police) [hopefully] searches for him
http://ria.ru/world/20140816/1020238164.html
1946  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 16, 2014, 12:03:21 PM
UN does not confirm Ukrainian claims that Russian military hardware crossed into Ukraine:
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1383252?utm_medium=rss20
1947  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sanction against Russia for West-choreographed conflict in Ukraine on: August 16, 2014, 11:33:30 AM
Ok, attempted brought to its knees. Happy? I am talking about the intent, not the end result, which will probably be the collapse of economy both in Russia and in EU, with USA being the only winner.
1948  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine rejects Russia Gazprom gas price hike on: August 16, 2014, 11:31:57 AM
EU urges Russia to renew gas talks with Ukraine. do I hear a tinge of panic?
http://itar-tass.com/ekonomika/1383193?utm_medium=rss20

What is there to talk about before the debt is paid?

Panic? What panic?
They have invited them to talk. It;s that not the normal way problems should be dealt with?

And russia should be thankful if they get their debt back. 8% inflation according to the central bank...and those are official numbers...

What about the 8 previous rounds of talks, some of them openly sabotaged or abandoned by Kiev representatives?

By your logic my electricity provider should be thankful that I at all pay for the power at the end of each month...
1949  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border on: August 16, 2014, 11:30:02 AM
I am not surprised. Those in Kiev are not smart enough to even think this one up. Yet their Washington handlers are desperate at making any case, however absurd, that they can stick to Russia - after all, that was the main goal of downing of MH-17.
1950  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sanction against Russia for West-choreographed conflict in Ukraine on: August 16, 2014, 11:27:54 AM
Um, so it's Russia's fault that it's being brought to its knees as soon as it tries to lift its head and throw off the shackles? Nice logic.
1951  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine rejects Russia Gazprom gas price hike on: August 16, 2014, 10:56:45 AM
EU urges Russia to renew gas talks with Ukraine. do I hear a tinge of panic?
http://itar-tass.com/ekonomika/1383193?utm_medium=rss20

What is there to talk about before the debt is paid?
1952  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sanction against Russia for West-choreographed conflict in Ukraine on: August 16, 2014, 10:55:34 AM
The most amusing  thing that I find here, is all the Westerners that seemingly dream seeing Russian economy fail and Russia plunged into 1917-style chaos. What they don't realise, is that by doing so, they cut the branch that they are themselves sitting on (or digging their own grave).

Poland thinks about forbidding import of Russian coal (that currently covers 40% of the country's needs) as a counter-counter-sanction to Russian counter-sanctions to Polish and EU sanctions:
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/08/16/coal/

Absurdity still reigns supreme.  Grin
1953  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crimea on: August 16, 2014, 10:05:01 AM
Crimea wants out of Russian food sanctions
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/crimea-wants-russian-food-sanctions-185439830.html


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We requested that Crimea be excluded from the general economic sanctions that Russia has introduced given that we are in a transition period and that we are still like Siamese twins with mainland Ukraine, especially concerning milk and dairy products," Polyushkin was quoted as saying by Russian news agency RIA-Novosti.

Mainly for the milk products, as supplies from Kuban' are insufficient:
http://itar-tass.com/ekonomika/1383162?utm_medium=rss20
1954  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 15, 2014, 05:02:16 PM
Aid convoy to Ukraine faces disruption, may be attacked - Russia
http://rt.com/news/180664-ukraine-russian-humanitarian-convoy/

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Moscow has information that the convoy delivering humanitarian aid to eastern Ukraine may be attacked by Kiev’s forces, with the “punitive” Aidar Battalion planning to mine the road that the vehicles will use, the Russian Foreign Ministry says.
1955  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Putin did it! on: August 15, 2014, 01:55:46 PM
You can see the root of such rhetoric coming from the beginning of 1800s from England. An interesting documentary to watch:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740020.0
1956  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine rejects Russia Gazprom gas price hike on: August 15, 2014, 01:07:01 PM
Ouch:

'Buy firewood & coal': MP warns Ukrainians after US, EU get access to national gas pipes
http://rt.com/news/180512-ukrainian-mp-firewood-coal/

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Nikolay Rudkovsky, an independent MP in Ukraine’s Verkhovna Rada, believes the law allowing 49 percent of Ukraine’s national gas transportation system (GTS) to be managed by foreign companies is a big mistake.

“People, my advice to you is: buy firewood and coal! After the Law on reforming the management system of the united gas transportation system of Ukraine (#4116) was passed today, our country has been left with almost no chances of staying with gas,” Rudkovsky said on Facebook, following the Rada session.

“Don’t the MPs understand that we are now guaranteed to have a winter with no heating?” he asked.

...

“We don’t get a single cubic meter of gas from Russia now. This law gives away Ukrainian gas transportation system to the US,” Rudkovsky had time to say, before his microphone was switched off, according to ITAR-TASS.

Turchinov accused the MP of lobbying for Russian interests.  
1957  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 15, 2014, 01:00:20 PM
Russia, Ukraine Begin Customs Process on Humanitarian Aid at Russian Border
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140815/192032304/Russia-Ukraine-Begin-Customs-Process-on-Humanitarian-Aid-at.html

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Earlier in the day, members of the press, including from the BBC, Bloomberg, Reuters, The Associated Press and Agence France-Presse, were allowed to inspect the content of the trucks, currently located near the city of Kamensk-Shakhtinsky in Rostov Region.

I bet Western MSM is really proud of all the preliminary hysterics.



Oh, no, not again....  Undecided

‘White rain’: Donetsk residents record alleged phosphorus shelling (VIDEO)
http://rt.com/news/180488-phosphorus-shells-donetsk-ukraine/

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Citizens of Donetsk have recorded multiple videos of white glowing particles raining on residential quarters. The locals allege that Ukraine's military has shelled their city with internationally prohibited phosphorus incendiaries.

On Thursday night, people in the Lenin district of the city of Donetsk saw a flow of white fire pouring down from the dark sky alongside the now-familiar sound of bombing, RIA Novosti reported.

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At least 74 people, including children, have been killed in the city in the last three days.
1958  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is the West gearing up to invade Russia once again? on: August 15, 2014, 12:40:21 PM
I think I have enough of you. Russian weapons? Really? The whole of Ukraine and half of the former Soviet satellites use Russian/Soviet weapons. USA told Poland to ship their Soviet-time weapons to Ukraine and buy replacement NATO weapons instead. Russian artillery support?

On the video the scale of the Google-Earth angled image and the elevation of the virtual eye, and the small stretch of a water do not match. Could be anywhere in the region. Besides, the border is not exactly enforced. The freedom fighters could move their positions across the border to get a better vantage point and then drive to a new location. Now, what about Ukrainian armed groups (note that I am not saying that it was the Ukrainian army) artillery shelling the Russian cities?

Also, as other people point out, the lighting conditions in the video do not correspond to the stated time of day of the shelling - the sun setting in the north and it becomes dark at 16:00 in the middle of the summer? And this was already denied by OSCE observers in the area. Pull another one - it has bells on.
1959  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Medvedev's twitter account has been hacked on: August 15, 2014, 12:33:52 PM
And already a joke:

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После взлома усилена защита аккаунта Медведева в Твиттере. Вместо пароля "123" установлен пароль "qwerty".

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After the break-in, Medvedev's Twitter account protection has been strengthened. The password was changed from "123" to "qwerty"

 Grin
1960  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is the West gearing up to invade Russia once again? on: August 15, 2014, 12:19:54 PM
"Any previous invasion of Russia was preceded by a strong anti-Russian information" says russian who's army have invaded crimea and who's government invaded eastern part of ukraine by starting hybrid terrorism war there.

Two lies in one sentence. Well done. It's been discussed before. *Sigh* No one invaded Crimea. The Russian troops stationed there were there from Russian (prior to 1917) and throughout Soviet times, even after Crimea was stolen from Russia in 1954 and again denied independence from Ukraine in 1993. And no one invaded East Ukraine. US intelligence watches that region like a hawk and still cannot even cook any evidence?
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