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19481  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [210PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool US/DE/CN on: July 23, 2018, 01:19:21 PM
We now have more hashrate than kano pool, if this after effect of the whale's visit holds.

please don't mention  it.

but we are at 218ph

and  they are at 206ph
You're supposed to ask: block?

%?

block %?
19482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Acorn M.2 FPGA based GPU Accelerator on: July 23, 2018, 01:07:21 PM
Mineority exit scammed?

What is this you are talking about?

They're just flapping their gums to hear some noise in the room.  I haven't seen any signs of such a thing and I followed them pretty closely for the past month.

yeah  I figured this.

Although  some actions by squirrels   show an attempt to protect its parent company.

in theroy airsquirrels is legit and the parent company

squirrel research  is the subset.

Well squirrel research  no longer takes  coins only bank orders

to use coin  you have to go to mineority to order  which is not a subset of airsquirrels  so suing airsquirrels on an order from mineority is harder.

also the payment company for coins   coin payments acts like a coin mixer (many do this)  so you can't tell  from the btc addy if 1 or 2 or 100,000 units were ordered.

My family has a lot of IRS trainign and accounting background.

My wife was a 33 year employee  a revenue agent now retired.
My mom was a  26 year employee an auditor now retired .
I worked in collections for them back in the 80's when I got out of the USN I then went back to school and got  a degree in accounting.

So  I can see concern and fear on this gear. For more then 1 reason.
I grabbed 2x 215+ and 1x nest x2g  total  785 usd.
I can live with that.

But  I can see the rumors happening.
19483  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Maintenance of rig capacitors on: July 23, 2018, 12:55:22 PM
mobos can last for many years  if you run at lower then 100%  and keep the heat down.

maybe your buddy ran gear hard  say at 85% tdp

maybe he had a bad cap to begin with

maybe  his boards did not have good air circulation  so while the card temps were < 70  the board temp was close to 100c
19484  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: July 23, 2018, 12:37:46 PM
Anyone make a Bitmain dartboard to hang on their wall yet?  I'm pretty sure most of us could vent some frustration throwing darts/sticks/stones/old_hardware at it once in awhile. :/

well  maybe it should be an innosilicon dartboard
19485  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Innosilicon releases 3 kinds of A10 ETH Miner 365MH/s 432MH/s 485MH/s on: July 23, 2018, 12:33:45 PM
This new miner won't be for the small time miners.  Knowing Innsilicon, they'll probably make MOQ about 100 units.

When you increase the barrier for entry you block out someone that could have had the answer for all your problems.  But I know those that have power like to stay in power whether or Not it’s good for the rest of us or not.  Keep pushing out those that had heart for this into the hands of those that just want to see others suffer so that they can have a better life turns this whole project into nothing better than fiat.  Except we now take money printing out of the hands of the federal reserve right back into the hands of more bad actors.  Until we start as humans looking at the real root of the problem “money” then we are just going to keep playing this dance.  

I can’t wait for ai to be used for good. Not for fucking ad revenue generators.  Fuck my life. What are we doing people.  Is this really the best we can do?

please never blame "money"


always blame  "the love of money"

big difference
19486  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [210PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool US/DE/CN on: July 23, 2018, 12:31:21 PM
We now have more hashrate than kano pool, if this after effect of the whale's visit holds.

please don't mention  it.

but we are at 218ph

and  they are at 206ph
19487  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Attic Exhausting on: July 23, 2018, 03:43:42 AM
I see you want a single hole.  A ten inch hole is too small. You will restrict airflow.

And you are looking to move the air more then six feet.  That restricts air flow
19488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Acorn M.2 FPGA based GPU Accelerator on: July 23, 2018, 03:32:36 AM
Mineority exit scammed?

What is this you are talking about?
19489  Other / Off-topic / Re: Take Showers, Not Baths on: July 23, 2018, 03:26:33 AM
Stop fucking for twenty years.

Do any other kind of sex that you and your partner like just don’t fuck.

Problem solved.
19490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: July 23, 2018, 02:49:20 AM
My small take:

I think what is really biting TSMC is the fact that nvidia screwed up and thought they could milk the 10 series for more than they could imagine;    instead of holding to their usual product release strategy they attempted to milk it....  Th process on the dies was already down.   Its usually cheaper for a second batch of chips.  So;  why did the price keep going up?    That's right.... "artificial inflation" due to "demand".

it all backfired.  and they are hurting TSMC by pushing back and trying to recoup on their stupid mistake;  instead of chalking it as a loss and moving forward.

If they had taken that mistake, and:
1) released a 1080ti with less ram
or
2) sold the overstocked chips at a cut-rate price to sell and drain inventory for the next round

TSMC would have not had such a huge problem. (this aside from the fact that they must plan for the eventuality of these problems in their business model)



In the end;


All of it.... is people fighting to have the biggest slice of the pie.   Some people gotta lose.... and when you risk it big, you can loose it big.

us peons;  just get to ride the waves.

Pretty much spot on.  I miss October November December of 2017 and Jan of 2018

I made  more coin in those 4 months then the previous 24 months.

Asic companies went after gpus. = stupid
Nvidia pushed a lot of non gaming cards = stupid

And they pretty much hurt the game big time.

The game only works well when gpus do well.  Simple reason is the gear adaption is widespread.

Gamers do mine as a rebate on gear.  So if gpus can turn a profit many people have interest .

Kill it off system crashes.

Same thing happened in 2014 ltc was smacking hot.  Asics were built and both btc and ltc crashed.

For now I am bored. The solar end is bogged down in red tape and delays. So I can’t use lots of excess gear.l have six idle s9s and 9 idle l3+

So slow it is boring as heck.

Getting a new bathroom remodel paying a guy hope it works out.



But would anyone think bitmain would have less efficient gear the innosilicon in every category?
19491  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: July 23, 2018, 02:42:15 AM
Notbatman is an alien trying to suck believers in to the flat earth theory .

The truth is the moon is a huge space ship hollow inside.

It is populated by alien scientists that use earth as a test lab.

I saw this on tv the history channel so I know it’s true.


Once the aliens figured that some people know the truth they had to send people down to earth from the people to push the flat earth theory and keep us in confusion.

No matter what notbatman posts to reply to this just remember he is a well schooled clever alien who desires to deceive and confuse us test subjects.
19492  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: July 22, 2018, 07:57:40 PM
Sometimes you get complacent when you become the big dog. No longer hungry. No longer innovating. Bitmain is raking in so much they just stopped innovating. With things the way they are, they might ease out of their slumber and try to cobble something together. Who knows.

IMO they are just focusing on diversifying their business portfolio.  They are opening offices in San Francisco and Sao paulo, and have been actively investing in other businesses, not to mention their AI chips.  In 2019 they will be traded on the Hong Kong stock exchange.  They have made a lot of money on mining equipment but that is just peanuts compared to other ventures.  Its kind of like Nvidia, we can complain about no new GPUs, but their main income is coming from AI and HPC. not geforce graphics cards.  

And lets just say Bitmain could magically double the efficiency of their S9, which would be huge, it would still only be making a $1 a day.  With current prices I don't think asic miners are flying off the shelves.

28th  at 1400 watts makes 10 a day with free power

28th at 1400 watts makes   6.64  a day with 10 cent power

You are correct in that they are drifting from mining  look at this:

Innosilicon  now beats bitmain for efficiency with every product they have.

Why hasn't bitmain built more efficient gear for sale?

Btc

T2  is 1430/17200 =   83 watts per 1 th  or +10% = 91 watts a th
S9 is  1400/14000 =  100 watts 1th  or -2%  =  98 watts a th









Zec  

A9  is 620/ 50000 =  12.4 watts 1000 sols
Z9  is 266/ 10000 =  26.6 watts 1000 sols


LTC

A6   1500/1230 =      121 watts 100 mh
L3+  800/505    =     160 watts 100 mh


Cryptonight

A8   480 watts /248 =  193 watts  100kh  
x3    550 watts/220 =   250 watts 100kh    

DASH

A5 750 watts/32500  =  23.07 watts   1gh
D3 970 watts/17000  =  57.05 watts   1gh

 Sia

S11 1380 watts/4300gh   = 320.9 watts 1000gh
A3   1275 watts/815gh     = 1564 watts 1000gh



I am not sure about a bitmain  decred miner

and Innosilicon does not have an Eth miner  or a B3 miner


but bitmain  is a clear cut loser in efficiency to everything  you can buy listed above.

This is not about service of the gear
This is not about price of the gear
This is not gear working or being durable

This is about  efficiency  and bitmain  either sucks at that (I don't think so)

Or bitmain  has  better gear they don't release

or something else

At moderators.

I only listed  the entire list of gear byc and alt because the pattern is very clear  and that is the way to show it.

So will bitmain  put a better miner out or continue the price war with the s-9?

I can believe that bitmain  loses  in every model  listed above  so whats up here?



Update  innosilicon   releases a far superior eth machine

so they beat bitmain  in efficiency yet again!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4722666.0


innosilicon

A10  

 850 watts 485mh  = 1.75 watts a mh
740  watts 432mh  = 1.71 watts a mh
650  watts 365mh = 1.78 watts a mh


bitmain
E3

800 watts  180 mh = 4.444 watts a mh
19493  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: July 22, 2018, 05:31:22 PM
Sometimes you get complacent when you become the big dog. No longer hungry. No longer innovating. Bitmain is raking in so much they just stopped innovating. With things the way they are, they might ease out of their slumber and try to cobble something together. Who knows.

And innosilicon now has an ETH miner asic far better then bitmain in terms of watts per hash
19494  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / What has happened to bitmain having the most efficient gear? on: July 22, 2018, 03:08:25 PM
Innosilicon  now beats bitmain for efficiency with every product they have.

Why hasn't bitmain built more efficient gear for sale?

Btc

T2  is 1430/17200 =   83 watts per 1 th  or +10% = 91 watts a th
S9 is  1400/14000 =  100 watts 1th  or -2%  =  98 watts a th

Zec  

A9  is 620/ 50000 =  12.4 watts 1000 sols
Z9  is 266/ 10000 =  26.6 watts 1000 sols

LTC

A6   1500/1230 =      121 watts 100 mh
L3+  800/505    =     160 watts 100 mh

Cryptonight

A8   480 watts /248 =  193 watts  100kh  
x3    550 watts/220 =   250 watts 100kh    

DASH

A5 750 watts/32500  =  23.07 watts   1gh
D3 970 watts/17000  =  57.05 watts   1gh

Sia

S11 1380 watts/4300gh   = 320.9 watts 1000gh
A3   1275 watts/815gh     = 1564 watts 1000gh

I am not sure about a bitmain  decred miner

and Innosilicon does not have an Eth miner  or a B3 miner

but bitmain  is a clear cut loser in efficiency to everything  you can buy listed above.

This is not about service of the gear
This is not about price of the gear
This is not gear working or being durable

This is about  efficiency  and bitmain  either sucks at that (I don't think so)

Or bitmain  has  better gear they don't release

or something else

At moderators.

I only listed  the entire list of gear byc and alt because the pattern is very clear  and that is the way to show it.

So will bitmain  put a better miner out or continue the price war with the s-9?

I can believe that bitmain  loses  in every model  listed above  so whats up here?
19495  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [120PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool US/DE/CN on: July 22, 2018, 02:27:40 PM
A big pool failover has made the hashrate hit new record highs. Here's hoping we get some blocks while they're here.


1   16vV8JJ6rHFmo7gcNxDqyUb5wdpJVQkU7W   116PH/s   7.44PH/s   1.08PH/s   3   153,128,698,502   116011120086   100%   152,665,090,361   0.07389008


is he still here?
19496  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [120PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool US/DE/CN on: July 22, 2018, 11:55:56 AM
I would argue that  100gh of gear should solo mine

Philip,

I also have a few 2PACs.

Would it be more wise then to load balance between the solo and multi ck pool to have chances on both?

And as backup as a pool might go down.

Well  the math   shows  they lose money on multi ck pool  unless  your power is free.

the math shows  they are a crazy high longshot on ck solo pool.

I have mine on ck solo

http://solo.ckpool.org/users/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje

but  my pc has a good cpu and I mine an alt  which helps a bit.
19497  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: WTS 8 Halong T1 new unopened miner 1.2k on: July 22, 2018, 03:46:15 AM
As title says have 8 unopened I want to sell 1.2k ea. Buyer pays first or OGNasty as escrow at buyers expense. Payment in BTC accepted from all, Paypal from a select few.

Need these gone within a week. Bulk discount available.

1.2k  with a psu or with no psu?

19498  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: July 21, 2018, 10:28:43 PM
L3+ from bitmain down to $289.

I’ve read a lot of speculation they have a more powerful scrypt miner to hit the shelves next.


they may  I think the l3 is a 28nm  too maybe they can boost a 16 or 10nm  to do 900mh at 700 or 800 watts


1500 at somewhere between 1000 and 1300 watts, on a 14/16 nm node process (possibly that "12nm" that's really an upgraded 16nm process).

900 wouldn't be worth it for them with the Innosilicon stuff around.


well 500 at 725 is about the best it can do with 28nm

if moving to 10 or 12 or 14 or 16nm  

is  as good as the s9 jump it would do

1250 at 725/800   that is a 2.5 factor   which is the s7 to s9 jump

no one touches that efficiency

innosilicon  does   1230 at 1500  that is 1.219 watts a mh
bitmain      does     500 at 725    that is 1.45 watts  a mh

if they put an L5  out at 0.725 watts an mh it would be a big jump.

bitmain  became huge with the S9   from s7 jump

14000 at 1400
4700  at 1300

they have not really done much since that huge jump

right now innosilicon beats them with every single piece of gear in terms of efficiency
19499  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Acorn M.2 FPGA based GPU Accelerator on: July 21, 2018, 05:31:06 PM
@philipma: How did you paid for squirrelsresearch site with coins? I have option to pay only with ACH, what is not to easy from Brazil cause of hourly USD value changes.


I did it with great difficulty.

Payments failed three times and on fourth try. Payment took.

But the website cancelled the order.

I then reported the issue here in this thread.

And to gpu_hoarder via pm

And to squirrels research email

And on the accord website.

I did this on the 14,15,16,17,18,19,20 of July and the order was fixed .

At this point you may be the lucky one as your coins are in your pocket.

19500  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [120PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool US/DE/CN on: July 21, 2018, 10:50:35 AM
Can someone clarify the ramp up/ramp down again for me? I'm a small miner and have less than 100 gh at the moment. I've been mining here for months and managed to earn $1.06 as of a few days ago (not sure my herp/derp numbers as this was from the computergenie site.

Anyway, I get a problem with my miner and had to take it offline for 48 hours before I could start it again... Only to see my prior work is essentially erased and now I'm sitting at $0.05 in pending payouts.

So my question is if it is even worth my time mining here. I can't guarantee my miners won't have downtime in the months to years it will take to get in the payout pool, and if my prior work gets superceded by the guys with the real hashrates in only a few hours I will never earn a payout.

I don't expect to turn a profit mining, I do it to support the network but if I'll never even get a miniscule payout I might as well join the solo pool and give up here.

I would argue that  100gh of gear should solo mine

Your numbers are tiny  the power used is more then the   3 cents a day you would earn.

At 3 cents a day  it will take you more then a year  to get to  10 dollars  which is when you would be paid as I think  we are paying at about the 10 dollar level.
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