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mlord10
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July 22, 2018, 02:21:06 PM |
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Hybrid GPU/asic asic?
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D1NG0
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July 22, 2018, 02:22:11 PM |
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JW_B
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July 22, 2018, 02:33:12 PM |
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efficiency close with titan v
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Iamtutut
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July 22, 2018, 02:40:51 PM |
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3250€ without VAT fot the basic version. Close to 4000€ with shipping and VAT. Cheaper to get 12 RX580 + mobo + CPU and RAM. Interesting for those paying a hi electricity cost.
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badbart
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July 22, 2018, 02:42:47 PM |
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Not sure if its worth it with eth going POS. Anyone have a timeline when POS will happen? I'd love yo buy some if I have time to make decent return.
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d57heinz
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July 22, 2018, 02:50:31 PM |
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Not sure if its worth it with eth going POS. Anyone have a timeline when POS will happen? I'd love yo buy some if I have time to make decent return.
Don’t worry about pos. The manufacturers know what’s up. Coins can’t be asic resistant so in the end whether you wanna jump hoops etc with gpu coins in end it will end up here.——->asic. There will always be a place for this asic. Buy some if you want to. You’ll regret it if you do and you’ll regret if you don’t. Trust me. Hahahaha. It’s crypto!! These machines just aren’t made to last. Everything used is just enough to get the job done in ideal conditions. Any one variable off and poof. They just don’t give a shit. It’s like anything else in the world. Make it last long enough where you don’t get too pissed when it breaks and short enough to keep this thing called capitalism afloat. DYOR. Don’t let another person on here persuade you one way or another. Make it for your own reasons and you’ll be much better off. It’s only you to blame when you make that mistake. No one else. BR
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As in nature, all is ebb and tide, all is wave motion, so it seems that in all branches of industry, alternating currents - electric wave motion - will have the sway. ~Nikola Tesla~
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KaydenC
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July 22, 2018, 02:53:22 PM |
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This saves roughly $1000 USD a year for 485mh/s at $0.10/kwh using Rx 570 efficiency.
This 2x efficiency gap can be closed with a node shrink. It also does not offer price/perf improvements (but depends how low inno can sell it), and next gen GPUs will have better price/perf.
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July 22, 2018, 03:40:55 PM Last edit: July 22, 2018, 03:55:58 PM by Metroid |
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This saves roughly $1000 USD a year for 485mh/s at $0.10/kwh using Rx 570 efficiency.
This 2x efficiency gap can be closed with a node shrink. It also does not offer price/perf improvements (but depends how low inno can sell it), and next gen GPUs will have better price/perf.
gtx 1170 $499, 60mhs, 120w, 0.5khs per 1 watts, 8.3 usd per 1mhs, 8 gtx 1170 = 480mhs, 960 watts, $4000 + motherboard + cpu + psu and other things $5000. a10 $5k for the 485mhs 850w, 0.57khs per 1 watts, 10.3 usd per 1mhs The a10 will be the same as 8 gtx 1170, gtx 1170 will hold resale value, although the idea of this asic is good, is just too late for the party but as always, they have been mining with them for sometime, so they will get roi, the people who buys this, no. if amd releases a rx 680 with gddr6, hashrate wise will be pretty much the same, price point i guess $299. the asic is hassle free, plug and play, nvidia is not as bad as amd, so nvidia is easier to manage but gpu mining as always is horrible, too many parts, too many things to do, a lot of work, so is a hard choice here, lot of work with resale value or plug and play and forget resale value. gtx 1170 availability, September.
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July 22, 2018, 04:01:26 PM |
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it's not up on their website I mean no price / shipping announcement date ? When is this batch considered to be released ?
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July 22, 2018, 04:49:53 PM |
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This saves roughly $1000 USD a year for 485mh/s at $0.10/kwh using Rx 570 efficiency.
This 2x efficiency gap can be closed with a node shrink. It also does not offer price/perf improvements (but depends how low inno can sell it), and next gen GPUs will have better price/perf.
gtx 1170 $499, 60mhs, 120w, 0.5khs per 1 watts, 8.3 usd per 1mhs, 8 gtx 1170 = 480mhs, 960 watts, $4000 + motherboard + cpu + psu and other things $5000. a10 $5k for the 485mhs 850w, 0.57khs per 1 watts, 10.3 usd per 1mhs The a10 will be the same as 8 gtx 1170, gtx 1170 will hold resale value, although the idea of this asic is good, is just too late for the party but as always, they have been mining with them for sometime, so they will get roi, the people who buys this, no. if amd releases a rx 680 with gddr6, hashrate wise will be pretty much the same, price point i guess $299. the asic is hassle free, plug and play, nvidia is not as bad as amd, so nvidia is easier to manage but gpu mining as always is horrible, too many parts, too many things to do, a lot of work, so is a hard choice here, lot of work with resale value or plug and play and forget resale value. gtx 1170 availability, September. how did u know bout gtx1170 hsrate?
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July 22, 2018, 04:58:25 PM |
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Marvell2
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July 22, 2018, 05:27:49 PM |
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This saves roughly $1000 USD a year for 485mh/s at $0.10/kwh using Rx 570 efficiency.
This 2x efficiency gap can be closed with a node shrink. It also does not offer price/perf improvements (but depends how low inno can sell it), and next gen GPUs will have better price/perf.
gtx 1170 $499, 60mhs, 120w, 0.5khs per 1 watts, 8.3 usd per 1mhs, 8 gtx 1170 = 480mhs, 960 watts, $4000 + motherboard + cpu + psu and other things $5000. a10 $5k for the 485mhs 850w, 0.57khs per 1 watts, 10.3 usd per 1mhs The a10 will be the same as 8 gtx 1170, gtx 1170 will hold resale value, although the idea of this asic is good, is just too late for the party but as always, they have been mining with them for sometime, so they will get roi, the people who buys this, no. if amd releases a rx 680 with gddr6, hashrate wise will be pretty much the same, price point i guess $299. the asic is hassle free, plug and play, nvidia is not as bad as amd, so nvidia is easier to manage but gpu mining as always is horrible, too many parts, too many things to do, a lot of work, so is a hard choice here, lot of work with resale value or plug and play and forget resale value. gtx 1170 availability, September. how did u know bout gtx1170 hsrate? The next Amd cards will be based off the vega 20 , which is 7nm Where do you get the rx 680? I agree the 1170 will do 50 to 60mhs , the 2000 dollar volta previw cards that came out last year did 90mhs
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Eyedol-X
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July 22, 2018, 05:32:25 PM |
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it's about $5000 for the 485MH model
it's about $4400 for the 430MH model
it's about $3800 for the 365MH model
Source: Article in this thread, translated and converted from Euros.
So basically they doubled the price of the E3 to give you double the hashrate in the 365MH model with better power efficiency.
Those that got $800 E3's would be wise to just sell theirs right now for a little less than what a new one costs.
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boxalex
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July 22, 2018, 05:42:08 PM |
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Those that got $800 E3's would be wise to just sell theirs right now for a little less than what a new one costs.
Why? USD 800 for first Batch E3 sounds ok to go and keep. Better the folks that bought the next batch for 1876 USD think about reselling bevor it even arrives, lol. Thx for the prices by the way!
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Marvell2
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July 22, 2018, 06:05:39 PM |
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it's about $5000 for the 485MH model
it's about $4400 for the 430MH model
it's about $3800 for the 365MH model
Source: Article in this thread, translated and converted from Euros.
So basically they doubled the price of the E3 to give you double the hashrate in the 365MH model with better power efficiency.
Those that got $800 E3's would be wise to just sell theirs right now for a little less than what a new one costs.
11x series will beat that efficency and is more flexible, 5k on an eth only miner is risky with new gpus comming out in next 6 months. Remeber current gpus are 3 years old, all these eth asics show is they asic developers have better asics replacing these so they are dumping
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badbart
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July 22, 2018, 06:09:57 PM |
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Not sure why no one here is talking about POS, if it comes in the next 6 months you won't make your money back.
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Eyedol-X
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July 22, 2018, 06:11:12 PM |
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Those that got $800 E3's would be wise to just sell theirs right now for a little less than what a new one costs.
Why? USD 800 for first Batch E3 sounds ok to go and keep. Better the folks that bought the next batch for 1876 USD think about reselling bevor it even arrives, lol. Thx for the prices by the way! You're likely to make more profit on the short term sale of the miner than you are mining profits long term. By comparison the E3 is very inefficient to the 365MH A10. That's going to cause it's value to drop. It's all a gamble but for those looking to make some nice $$$ short term, it's a good move. Difficulty getting ready to spike again. it's about $5000 for the 485MH model
it's about $4400 for the 430MH model
it's about $3800 for the 365MH model
Source: Article in this thread, translated and converted from Euros.
So basically they doubled the price of the E3 to give you double the hashrate in the 365MH model with better power efficiency.
Those that got $800 E3's would be wise to just sell theirs right now for a little less than what a new one costs.
11x series will beat that efficency and is more flexible, 5k on an eth only miner is risky with new gpus comming out in next 6 months. Remeber current gpus are 3 years old, all these eth asics show is they asic developers have better asics replacing these so they are dumping Yeah, this is very much a possibility. Not sure why no one here is talking about POS, if it comes in the next 6 months you won't make your money back.
You might be new so here is the quick answer: Because people have been talking about it for 3 years and it hasn't happened... Asic Manufacturers quit waiting around
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Iamtutut
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July 22, 2018, 06:29:08 PM |
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11x series will beat that efficency and is more flexible, 5k on an eth only miner is risky with new gpus comming out in next 6 months.
Remeber current gpus are 3 years old, all these eth asics show is they asic developers have better asics replacing these so they are dumping
Even with the current generation + Acorn M.2 this is not worth.
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Marvell2
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July 22, 2018, 07:22:53 PM |
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11x series will beat that efficency and is more flexible, 5k on an eth only miner is risky with new gpus comming out in next 6 months.
Remeber current gpus are 3 years old, all these eth asics show is they asic developers have better asics replacing these so they are dumping
Even with the current generation + Acorn M.2 this is not worth. Acorn is vapor ware atm , but point taken
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