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1961  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: September 15, 2016, 02:31:02 PM
   europa league

APOEL       Vs       FC Astana         
Astra               Vs       Austria Vienna         
Rapid Vienna   Vs       Genk            
Sassuolo       Vs       Ath Bilbao            
   

hard picks you have there on moneyline almost for all home teams ,
prefer to lookng for another match with easy to guess ,
manchester united to win away against feyenoord @1.9 pretty cool !
and Inter Milan money line against Hapoel Beer Sheva @1.5 seems promising .
1962  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: September 15, 2016, 02:03:34 PM
I just noticed another decent bet on this weekend's matches.  Crystal Palace vs Stoke, Crystal Palace to win money line at 2.03.  Surely there's more than a 50% chance for them to win against Stoke who has been doing really bad since the opening fixtures.

Crystal Palace on the other hand might look to try to win another game after their victory last weekend, and it is against a somewhat inferior team.  And the match is at home so that really helps them a bit.
alan pardew did not really have make any changes in crystal palace ,
got 4 points from four match it is like nothing changed since last season ,
but indeed crystal palace have a better result than stoke city who got 1 point only from four match ,
both teams are in bad performance , hard to predict on moneyline but maybe under 2.5 goals.
1963  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin exchange websites without withdrawal fees on: September 15, 2016, 01:47:12 PM
There is no exchange without withdrawal fee, but every exchange have different withdrawal fee, most of them set it on 20k sat, but Cryptopia take 40k sat, while Poloniex take only 10k sat, so I think Poloniex is the best choice, you can accumulate your Bitcoins in Poloniex then withdraw them in one time, if you have small amounts in other exchanges buy Lite or Doge coin and send them to Poloniex.
Withdrawal fee is totally different from what we need to pay for bitcoin network transaction fee. To transact bitcoin we must need to pay some fees to bitcoin miners. Never consider it is a waste of money or unnecessarily we are paying . It is some appreciation you are providing to the miners who are safeguarding bitcoin network.
everyone know it already i guess ,
it is mean nothing actually if you only spend 10k satoshi up to 100k satoshi if you traded hundreds bitcoin ,
so this withdrawal fee should not be a serious problem ,
the real problem are on trading fee , frequently they set a high percentege fee.
1964  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted | Huge Community | Free BTC on: September 15, 2016, 01:29:50 PM
i noticed that one of primedice promo like primedice video contest looks abandoned here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1567881.0 ,
can someone say something about this project?
is stunna too busy with the current primedice updates to just make people calm down there at least?
noone between primedice staff? for just make an update about that promo  Huh
1965  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: September 15, 2016, 01:22:13 PM
Hello Guys, I would like to know you're understanding about online gambling and real life gambling. Since here in the philippines online gambling is now illegal. I'm just curious what's the difference about this too. Why make online gambling illegal?
Real gambling is for me more fun because you can see what is happening and you meet different people. Online gambling feels like it is fake or scripted or something.
Even if it is not so it makes me feel uncomfortable.
it is sounds like really so fun if you can gamble in real casino ,
but how if the situation around you are not supported for you to do it?
as example there no real casino around your place , and it was considered as ilegal action in your place?
sure the choice are going to online gambling , flexible, newbie friendly and more fun too .
1966  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: September 15, 2016, 12:57:44 PM

Indeed paypal can be very annoying with funds. Sometimes you try to sell something online and receive funds trough paypal. Then the buyer says he didnt receive the product and paypal expects you to be the one to prove otherwise. Too much work and money goes into all of these problems.
the refund system of paypal sometimes being misused by a scum users and it's really annoying for seller to be honest,paypal will only add sorrow on seller's business but what they can do? it's the most used and accepted payment processor around the world
yepp paypal are reversible , and frequently used to scam ,
they cancel the payment and still get the goods , hard to solve this issue by paypal ,
but bitcoin comes as an answer of that problem ,
irreversible payment system with extremely low fees for each transaction ,
at this point bitcoin are better than any other payment system especially paypal.
1967  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Prediction ligue 1, france football league on: September 15, 2016, 12:50:08 PM
cens VS paris saint germain

Fifth round of France Ligue 1, match between PSG and Caen. For PSG it will be really important match, because they lost 5 points in last 2 league matches. First they lost against Monaco 3:1 and then took only a point against St.Etiene, so this match is very important for them. Also they played 1:1 vs Arsenal this week. Last season PSG won against Caen by 3:0 and 6:0

my pick PSG , over 1,5 goal
PSG really need to win because their position on standings league doesn't looks good currently and as the previous champion they should be playing more better than the previous matches also last season they could won with big score because Ibrahimovic playing at there but now very different and i don't think they could win with big score again but regarding your pick i think over 1.5 goals is pretty safe

from now until the next 2 home matches of psg will be very safe moneyline bet ,
it is enough for them to get a bad start of season ,
they will rise and back to their best performance like when ibrahimovic was there last season ,
PSG win and i think it will be more than 1 goal winning difference.
1968  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NEver keep all your coins on an exchange on: September 15, 2016, 12:31:58 PM
I also do the same it was a lesson for all of us who often kept their money in exchanges, and those online wallets which do not have any good review or history are also not good for keeping our bitcoins in there , as they also can be hacked.
even there is some people used an exchange as their online wallet lol ,

as bitcoin wallet is private , you should not tell and held your private key to anyone ,
by storing bitcoin in third party like an exchange and other online wallet which you did not hold the private key , you are just giving away your bitcoin.
Private key has always become a general things before you're wanna for saving your money in a place, and maybe I know if you are trader and anytime you don't have a time for moving your funds into your wallet but for the normal people is not a traders and keep their money in exchange site. stupid ever.
many times i heard about people used an exchange as their wallet ,
yepp it is pretty stupid especially when you are storing about a lot of money ,
the hacked exchange should be our lesson to not go full 100% trust ,
even an exchange have a very trusted reputation.

If that is a cheap exchange website then it is likely to steal a person with a lot of bitcoin that will be stored. But for those who are known they have the thinking that trust is essential for that certain exchange to survive. Though some end up being a scam site.
did you know recent case about hacked exchange bitfinex?
they are trusted and have very large active trader stored thousands bitcoin there ,
but who know they manipulated everything by claiming themselves are hacked ,
it can be they just scam everyone.
never trust someone online easily , it will hurt you soon or later.
1969  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: September 15, 2016, 11:58:14 AM
Mostly for fun,if I make a profit that's cool but most importantly is to have fun and have excitement.
After all,that's what gets you going.
True, gambling is really made for fun, we cannot use gambling as our money making because the house not open it because we can earn also a money, the house is always making profit and you are just a player and nothing more. It is always our choice if we want to gamble to their sites or not.
I agree this gambling is made for fun. But in gambling, there are two types of games are there one is slot games, and another one is sports betting. I will play slot games just for fun because here our strategy will not work and the result is always lost. And I will play sports betting for both fun and profit, and here the gain chance is much better than slot games.
There are many games actually but there are games with no house edge which would give us a chance to win in the long run, these are skilled base games and sports betting, I love sports betting as I was able to enjoy the game and make money at the same time, for me, this is the simplest type of gambling so far.
Yeah a lot of people really want sports betting more than other gambling game, because sports betting are really easy to analyze whose team going to win and for me, I agree with you because I also enjoy sports betting and at the same time I can win profit.
there a lot of people prefer to gamble on something like slots machine , dice etc too ,
those people are who did not know well about sports and did not like it ,
they think a cards game and simply game like poker and dice are more fun ,
instead just watching , fun and profit are the goal of why people keep gamling.
1970  Economy / Economics / Re: Big Crash coming on: September 15, 2016, 11:50:07 AM
This is 100% true I predict by the end of 2017 the US will witness one of the largest economic crashes of all time.

I don't believe that it is going to happen and either to come with bitcoin. But maybe if that is going to happen with the economy of US then the USD is going to be affected at all and since the value of bitcoin is depending on the price of USD. Then value of bitcoin is going to be affected. But let's be positive that it is not going to happen.
first of all things that can affected to bitcoin price are not depends on the US dollar price ,
there are many factors that can make bitcoin going up and down ,
the most affected factor are about supply and demand ,
the big crash will happened only if there is market manipulation, fiat crisis and no investor interest at same time.

Very true, not only usd would affect but all circumstances that affects the supply and demand  same as you said. Big crash would happen  if  theres an economic crises of all holders of  huge amount of bitcoin or investors. and also if no one already  buy bitcoin for sure it would crash to the bottom.
not wrong actually , but since USD are used as bitcoin to fiat conversion globally ,
it has a special and huge effect if there is something happened on USD ,
last year in 2015 people saying that US economy will collapses ,
and US dollar will go down drastically but instead go down USD went stronger !

You know that the USD power its huge, but how long they will hide the real situation of the country, if the war stop USA printed dollars will show how the usd is real overvalued, anyway bitcoin and crypto has nothing to do with those, as people invest in their countries into mining hardware and trade bitcoins over their currencie. I doubt bitcoin will crash now, it will grow and at 2020 i do believe 1000 dollars will be the next floor at bitcoin, while the financial problems over the world will be deeper and worse then its now.
aha you remind me of something crazy ,
i have a conspiracy theory about why USD getting stronger  , the one of a lot of reasons it is  because of a war!
i mean without war that consumed a lot of weapon made in USA , the USD will not as strong as now ,
they sell expensive weapons and their economy situation gained!
as long as bitcoin are not under $100 price the big crash rumour will not happened!
1971  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: September 15, 2016, 11:40:47 AM

This is true. Aside from doing proper bankroll management, we must also be able to learn how to properly budget our money for family and other things in life that will add value to it. We should not use most of our money as our bankroll - it must be just a portion of it. Each session will have its own bankroll and there is already a pre-bet system that we just implement.
Yeah, we know how to handle financial income we can save more money even if we play gambling, gambling is just a game and we cannot put all of our money in this kind of activities, Yeah we can try gambling but you need to be matured enough before you try because if not you can have a possibility that you can be addictive.
yepp with bankroll management you will have to set a limit to lost ,
good way to avoid a huge lost in short time ,
and sure make your gambling are safer than without managing bankroll ,
so everyone agree that bankroll management are a method in gambling?
1972  Economy / Economics / Re: Big Crash coming on: September 10, 2016, 03:34:39 AM
This is 100% true I predict by the end of 2017 the US will witness one of the largest economic crashes of all time.

I don't believe that it is going to happen and either to come with bitcoin. But maybe if that is going to happen with the economy of US then the USD is going to be affected at all and since the value of bitcoin is depending on the price of USD. Then value of bitcoin is going to be affected. But let's be positive that it is not going to happen.
first of all things that can affected to bitcoin price are not depends on the US dollar price ,
there are many factors that can make bitcoin going up and down ,
the most affected factor are about supply and demand ,
the big crash will happened only if there is market manipulation, fiat crisis and no investor interest at same time.

Very true, not only usd would affect but all circumstances that affects the supply and demand  same as you said. Big crash would happen  if  theres an economic crises of all holders of  huge amount of bitcoin or investors. and also if no one already  buy bitcoin for sure it would crash to the bottom.
not wrong actually , but since USD are used as bitcoin to fiat conversion globally ,
it has a special and huge effect if there is something happened on USD ,
last year in 2015 people saying that US economy will collapses ,
and US dollar will go down drastically but instead go down USD went stronger !
1973  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 10, 2016, 02:25:20 AM
ITALY: Serie A :

Juventus  vs  Sassuolo => 1.
   
Palermo vs   Napoli => 2.

Juventus vs Sassuolo, easy win on Juventus and this match also play on Juventus home.
Palermo vs Napoli, Over 2.5 goals seems a good pick for this match and Napoli ML too.
both match should be an easy win for a favorited teams ,
but since this is italian league a place where mafia life ,
fixed match everywhere especially in early season matches ,
i will avoid to bet moneyline for the above matches , over / under goals will beter.
1974  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 10, 2016, 02:18:14 AM
Gambling is not wrong but for some people it is wrong, they are fast addicted and due to this they keep playing over and over and get stuck.
I think gambling is fun but you do not have to play too much.
Well, you can't blame them, most of the gamblers who does not have a good experience in gambling will always leave a bad comment. For them gambling is wrong because it is just a way to lose your money.

You are right but this are mostly also the people that try it again and again till they have no money left anymore.
Some people are just so greedy these days, its just so wrong..
seems like people talking same thing about gambling turn to a wrong thing ,
so what exactly gambling it  is? how to gamble properly?
i just believe everyone who have experienced to gamble will just ended up loss ,
noone can survive in this crazy greedy wolrd. i am not saying wrong btw.
1975  Economy / Gambling / Re: 100% winning shot for BUSTABIT but it is for long run on: September 10, 2016, 02:07:28 AM
so you don't experience more than 5x of 1.1x multiplier below right? in a provably fair games it could happen too but the chance is very low so in a short run you can expect to win but if you use it for long time you will surely bust.
that is never going to happen , earn from gambling with that kind betting style ,
people from 10-20 years have applied this kind trick and it will never work at any kind gambling games ,
the odds and house edge are adjusted automatically ,
so you will just bust it all in the end i agree because it was a simple princple of gambling.
1976  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NEver keep all your coins on an exchange on: September 10, 2016, 01:58:49 AM
I also do the same it was a lesson for all of us who often kept their money in exchanges, and those online wallets which do not have any good review or history are also not good for keeping our bitcoins in there , as they also can be hacked.
even there is some people used an exchange as their online wallet lol ,

as bitcoin wallet is private , you should not tell and held your private key to anyone ,
by storing bitcoin in third party like an exchange and other online wallet which you did not hold the private key , you are just giving away your bitcoin.
Private key has always become a general things before you're wanna for saving your money in a place, and maybe I know if you are trader and anytime you don't have a time for moving your funds into your wallet but for the normal people is not a traders and keep their money in exchange site. stupid ever.
many times i heard about people used an exchange as their wallet ,
yepp it is pretty stupid especially when you are storing about a lot of money ,
the hacked exchange should be our lesson to not go full 100% trust ,
even an exchange have a very trusted reputation.
1977  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: August 29, 2016, 11:01:44 PM
I have been told that don't accept payments via paypal, is that right?
Because when buyer will have his bitcoins then he can claim back money from paypal by saying that i haven't received desired product.

paypal and bitcoin both are better for me, paypal for more save it means if we transaction with someone who want to trick you so we can use dispute methode is one of benefit using paypal bitcoin dont have it, but transaction with bitcoin is good too, and for me using bitcoin is one my favourite  Smiley
precisely these dispute , claim and chargebacks feature in paypal are the worst thing for me ,
the transaction seems like not natural ,
paypal are reversible , and it is not just to avoid someone who want to trick you ,
it can be used to scam and trick you back too , so basically bitcoin are far better.
1978  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NEver keep all your coins on an exchange on: August 29, 2016, 10:53:25 PM
I also do the same it was a lesson for all of us who often kept their money in exchanges, and those online wallets which do not have any good review or history are also not good for keeping our bitcoins in there , as they also can be hacked.
even there is some people used an exchange as their online wallet lol ,
we should never trust any wallet that involved with third party ,
as bitcoin wallet is private , you should not tell and held your private key to anyone ,
by storing bitcoin in third party like an exchange and other online wallet which you did not hold the private key , you are just giving away your bitcoin.
1979  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Freedom on: August 29, 2016, 10:47:12 PM
Absolutely yes, bitcoin makes us freedom and give us money. When I started earning bitcoins I thought it was hard to earn but time by time earnings coins makes it easy as I imagine because I learn about trading, investing, creating blogs and even signature campaign makes me stable in bitcoins. So now I can buy what I want I can save money from my bank account.

Earning chump change through Bitcoin is not freedom, sending money across the globe without government intervention is.  Smiley

Sending money across the globe is freedom, but earning money with bitcoin is also a pace of freedom, as we are our own boss, when we want we do work and when we are busy in other place we take a leave and no one order us in that field, and with bitcoin we also store money with freedom, there is no any fees on us and tax on us by any government by storing our money in bitcoin.
but don't forget with this "freedom" you are responsible on everything you have ,
noone can help you solve your bitcoin problem,
and you can not blame anyone in case in the future something bad happened to bitcoin ,
because this "freedom" you must ready to bear and handle everything by yourself.

I think we are not alone in bitcoin,as there is a bigger community in bitcoin and we all are working for the success of bitcoin and I hope it will be more stronger currency in the hands of a more stronger community.
lol i mean with this decentralized system of bitcoin people created their own rule,
means you are responsible on every single penny on your wallet ,
in case you lost your bitcoin whatever the reason , you will not get any help from another party ,
this decentralized system makes you are your own bank.
1980  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: August 29, 2016, 10:37:28 PM
I am very confident with buying bitcoin with large numbers will benefit us in the future. but, many people who sell bitcoin they have when the price of bitcoin ride, well, I still believe bitcoin although the price down, so for the moment I do not want to sell bitcoin I get because I believe in the potential of the bitcoin to make users become more success

each people have diffirent way to get bitcoin, like me im not buying bitcoin, but i get it free, if i need money to paying electric bill etc, i will sell my bitcoin, of course i belive bitcoin, but i have needs and i use bitcoin for it.
why you can not just spend your fiat money instead bitcoin ?
as bitcoin promising an increased price while fiat it is not ,
if you really believe in bitcoin you will just do this yepp spend your fiat and keep investing bitcoin ,
but i still see there is a lot of doubt on everyone minds about bitcoin.
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