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1961  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: September 01, 2016, 10:31:38 PM
I know there are people who are earning big amount with gambling especially those people that are main source of their income is gambling.

That is there minimum capital $1,000 at all. Just like my uncle, he is able to make $25,000 monthly with physical casino's.

But still he is not giving me some of its portion.
for those who could got steady income from their gambling activities i think that was good but even someday your uncle will give you his strategies but the results from gambling will not be same for each people because back again lucky always be the main problem during a gambling

his uncle is lucky just for the moment, i dont think that he will win all the time in future,if he continue like that, someday he will lose all of his money
Well, what can you expect, we cannot be lucky all the time and this is gambling where we lose in the long run. I would commend his uncle if he is making consistent money on a monthly basis but I think no one can do that in my opinion.
1962  Economy / Services / Re: Hiring People to sell T-shirts on: September 01, 2016, 10:18:40 PM
I am interested to be one of your resellers, I think this all about bitcoin T shirts, right? I would love to promote bitcoin and make money at the same time. Hope you can shed all the information the soonest so I can check it out.
1963  Economy / Services / Re: ★★ Autopilot Bitcoin - Make 10$-150$ BTC per day ★★ on: September 01, 2016, 02:39:46 PM
If this is true, I wanna avail the service, it is a sure money for me. By the way how will this be going on? What are the terms do I have to pay or something, pleas let me know, you can do PM if you want to talk about this privately.
1964  Economy / Services / Re: [Opair] Signature Campaign - 6 Week bounty pool! on: September 01, 2016, 02:09:13 PM
Please guys we are trying our best to get all of your Bitcoin address as soon as possible. Discussing about getting paid or not will do nothing so I please request you all to please be patient.

Still we are waiting for others. I will personally send all of them a PM to send me their Bitcoin address so that we speed up to payment processing.

For the meantime I would again request to be patient.
Thanks for the assurance, you are really a great manager. I hope all the manager are like you who always update so the participants will not worry.

What assurance? Campaign manager got no say in when we get paid.

I agree with this, but remembet as kooke said, that the wallet will be a qt normal wallet, the beta version will come after some weeks, so this would be:

1/ we need to release the first wallet and distributing xpo coins for all investors after then SJ will release funds (40% of escrow amount)to the project running .
2/ SJ sent 7 btc to Lutpin to pay the signature campaign.
3/ after funds released , wasserman99 should have information about listing exchanges (such as bittrex, polo, ect...) and we must have some talks on slack with presence of CEO Frank and HAO so that all investors need to be known about the legit project . this fact will clear all doubts from investors and it can bring back more funds for the project.
4/ We release the beta wallet.
5/ finally the rest of escrow funds will be released to the project.



But before we sent a plan like this to sebastianju and he dont accept the plan, so he propose the refunds period and he release the remaining after that.

They claim they need 7 btc from escrow for the bounties.
The thing is only Avirunes is the point person here because Lutpin is out of town. I think we should let him explain there side so we will erase the doubts about the payment, I know people are waiting already and Opair does not wanna ruin their reputation as well.
1965  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: September 01, 2016, 02:03:30 PM
Already did it once when the price is lower than I thought it can reached. Just wondering what I'm doing when the bitcoin reach 300 lower as read the replies.Maybe I'm not that into bitcoin those times.
im buying my bitcoins not only once, i do that all the time to be honest because i know that the more i will have the richer i will be in the future
Wow, that's the statement you have the overflowing confidence here, I hope that will happen because I also want to become rich in the future that is why I am also investing my money with bitcoin.
1966  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: September 01, 2016, 02:01:58 PM
I cannot say that I have become rich with gambling, but yes, I was able to fulfill all of my family members' dreams through gambling.
I would say it was all my luck because of which I was able to win too much and live a happy life.
Thats good for you where you make dialy profit in gambling then you can make your family members dream come true by doing some gambling , thats not luck thats skill you called because you can make daily profit with gambling , where you can make your self rich in just 1 year share some skills
That is very rare, I think no one is making money in gambling here until I find someone who can make money consistently, you must be exceptional and talented because majority of us loses.
I know others can make money but only few of them, I think that guy is really good in gambling and he was born to be a gambler, very rare but it is real. We could be good in other things but probably not in gambling as we are here to lose our money so we must enjoy instead.
1967  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: September 01, 2016, 01:50:33 PM
If you have the skills, then investing your money would be really better than just hoarding your money. Otherwise, you should just leave your money alone and save them for the future. Investment doesn't always return profit to you but if you're pretty excellent at something and you want to start making money by offering a service but you need a capital, then you should invest on that. You have the power to control if you'll get profit or not since you're the one who's doing the service.


That;s right if you have skills on trading then why don't you try to do this activity it is good to increase your bitcoin or it easy to grow your bitcoin, and if you are going to leave your money then try to invest it so that it can grow more, don't mind the gambling because in gambling there's no guarantee that you are going to win .
Trading is not an easy job and it has a little similarity with gambling because you need money to make money and as long as there is money involved that is too risky on your part, you better do it right or else you will also lose your money.
1968  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How about this for a winning run ($7600 made this evening) on: September 01, 2016, 01:41:01 PM
I would like to see how much time this lucky guy can stay away from gambling. According to his statistics he made huge profit in such a short period of time. He will took wise decision of moving away with that profit. I am thinking he will come back again to play as easy money will not let him stay without trying to make much more.
Definitely he will come back because that is how gambling works, gamblers does not have any contentment of their winnings and in no time I can assure your this guy will be whispered by his Allah to gambling again, I don't know if he is telling the truth or just playing about his allah thing.
1969  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: September 01, 2016, 01:13:47 PM
If everyone did not lose in the long run the casino would not make any profits. This should motivate addicted gamblers to stop gambling once and for all. The casino owners are manipulating everyone's greed to make them go back to casinos to lose more. Point to ponder
you are right, casinos are created for people to lose money and we cannot do anything about it because casinos have a house edge which is unbeatable

Yeah because casinos are business and as they are getting profit from the people. The gamblers must lose in casino in able the casino to keep on operating. They are earning when the gamblers are losing their money. That's why everyone are just losing in the end and no ordinary gambler is winning good amount with gambling.
Every casino always gets profit. Remember the words, "The house always wins."
That's one thing that we should always remember whenever we gamble. Besides, gambling should just be entertainment and even if we lose, it should be fine as long as it doesn't go beyond your bankroll limit

That is why people are investing or building up online casino's and gambling sites  because they want it as a business. They don't care for the gamblers they are going to get if they are going to make them lose. As long as they are going to earn good profit with it. That is business at all, you will not care for the feelings of your customers.
Gambling operators main focus in only profit, no one will ever make a gambling site just to give money for the gamblers, they set the rules and they make sure they will be favored to win all the time, while some gamblers are losing in the long run, gambling sites are making richer and richer.
yeah the fact that a casino created for sure profit means almost 90% of casino get success to make profit from their loser player , as long as the casino have an almost unlimited bankroll to cover a lucky winner at some point. but soon or later the crazy lucky player would back to gamble and lost all they earned before.
The only way the casino loses is when they have spent a lot of money for promotion but end up they cannot attract more clients to play in their casino, but for the popular gambling sites they are making money everyday and they always wins all the time.
1970  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 01, 2016, 01:02:54 PM
It's our way of thinking and how much serious we take it for our daily income, if we are only reliable on gambling than it is much worse because it can push to the very bad situation in case of get busted, so that if someone playing only to have fun with some extra money than it's nice way to spend some time there.
We will only enjoy gambling when we are playing for the entertainment. If you play for the desire to win more money then surely you will suffer in the end and you will end up blaming gambling for your loses, that is not fair base on my opinion.
1971  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People hate Bitcoins? on: September 01, 2016, 12:59:15 PM
People don't hate per se, but most people wouldn't bother using bitcoins because why should they use it if they can use like paypal or their creditcards instead.
Nah people don't hate bitcoin, people are hating bitcoin because they don't know about bitcoin and they don't have knowledge of using bitcoin people are deffirence where people have choices between paypal  , credit cards and bitcoin if they knew about bitcoin then probably they are going to choose bitcoin but since paypal are the number famous payment method in stores then.
People knows bitcoin but unfortunately they were not able to enjoy the positive side of bitcoin, the haters are those who lose big time in gambling or those being scam by HYIP and PONZI scheme, and if they will not give up easily they would have love bitcoin back.
1972  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: August 31, 2016, 01:00:07 PM
There are no safe methods to gambling, it's best to stay away from it and not start it. You will lose more than you win if you keep on coming back.
But the topic is "Is their any safe methods to gamble?" So for me, in my opinion, just play what you can afford to lose and everything will be fine, so that even if you lose it is just okay because you just play what you can afford to lose.

But summing up all the money lost together.. Makes a big sum you wouldn't have thought you would loose. Sadly, that's how much we're losing.
Yeah you wont notice but the money you lose is bigger than your winnings. i cant think of any method on how to gamble safely, i believe that its pure luck so if you had the chance to win its better to stop for now and refrain from playing so you can enjoy your earnings and think about what to do with it.

Correct. And those Binary betting sites are no different. Because when you win, you only win like 75% of your bet, but if you lose, you lose 100% of your bet. So even if you are correct 50% of the time, you still lose out big due to the huge spread.
At least in sports betting we have a choice to increase the spread to get the better odds, I have done binary option but my experience is not really that good so I will be back with sports betting since I am not down so big then, but still I am in the losing side but happy.
1973  Economy / Economics / Re: Loans too risky? on: August 31, 2016, 12:57:14 PM
The best way is to give loans to those people to whom you personally know as if you give loans to those people who you do not know or those people will live far away from you then at default it will be hard for you to get that amount from them.
well that's incase if the one who requesting loan doesn't provide any collateral,if the one who request loan could provide a collateral atleast worth 130% or even more,it'll be fine if it comes to defaulted loan,just sell the collateral,but still selling a collateral isn't that easy as i speak
just dont take a risk if you're not ready
130% is not even enough, you should ask a collateral bigger than that so he will be force to pay his loan. It is not that we are interested of the collateral but we just want to ensure that the borrower will think of his debt to us. We are in the business of money so liquidity is our first concern.
1974  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: LUCK!!! :) How does it feels? on: August 31, 2016, 12:53:15 PM
Luck is really good feeling because we know that we are lucky enough if we win in gambling when we play. But there is always a risk when we enter gambling so don't always make fun by the use of gambling, also search for other things that can make you entertain that without risk.

Yeah, If you are in chase of the money then luck is indeed a good feeling.

But mostly gamblers do play for fun, so luck is not a big deal at all for them.
and one more thing you are right that every gamblers should look for a different ways to get fun with.

to prevent losing a big amount of money.
I don't think most of the gamblers play for fun, I think we play for the money and also the fun, we want to achieve both as that will only satisfied us but we know we cannot achieve both at the same time and it has been proven base on our gambling record that we are in the losing side.
1975  Other / Off-topic / Re: What to do with my signature campaign earnings ? on: August 31, 2016, 12:48:44 PM
Like everyone else has said man, save it, don't gamble anymore or fall for the millions of scammers out there.  Best bet is to hold on to them coins and wait for the value to rise.  If you make .01 a week then in about 2 months you got .1 and so on. Just save.

I'm making 0.01 per week and I am happy with it. I'm one of those saving and holding the money waiting for the increase of the price. I can't wait to become a higher rank to get 0.1BTC faster than two months!!

Your rank will get upgraded in future and till then whatever you are earning should be kept safe for the future and you can sell them whenever you see higher price.
yes just keep it because bitcoin itself was already a investment but if you would like to do  some twist you can also try to use the earnings with alt trading or or buy online that's how bitcoin been use especially if thats your hard earned btc from the campaign.
A little amount is not good for long term investment, you should learn how to grow your money doing short term investment or trading in particular, once you were able to do it successfully that is the time you save your profit for a long term to increase more on your income.
1976  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: August 31, 2016, 12:46:06 PM
Well for me gambling strategy is just following your gut , because sometimes the luck on our side is living where we get lose with our bets but for me you can just learn the patern sometimes so that you can able to create a self strategy in gambling website where you can now defeat the script but for me never chase your lose if you ever lose Smiley
I disagree with you, you cannot just follow your gut without doing a good research in a certain game, doing a research will give you an advantage and will increase your chance of winning, that is how the professionals are doing, they will only rely on their guts as their last option.
1977  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 31, 2016, 12:40:02 PM
I am not playing on gambling sites for earning money I only enjoy it for getting entertained and for that I will say that no I am not rich with gambling,
That's good mate where you don't play with your money, because gambling is not fixing our lives , but for the others sake gambling is just a fun and there always playing with their money where they can make some profit ,. but not at all , for me gambling is where i enjoy entertained people too.

Indeed, gambling is not the place to look for profits and if there are indeed people who are rich in gambling then that person is the owner of gambling sites and not players gambling. Everyone is hypnotized by the words of the people who actually is the owner of one of the existing gambling sites. So gambling is only suitable for entertainment
You are absolutely right, I do not know why people are still letting themselves fooled by the great promise of gambling even though they have proven many times that they cannot win in the long run, maybe addiction is playing with them that is why they are not living in reality.
1978  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: August 31, 2016, 12:37:03 PM
Pretty cool article about the rookie survey for who is the favorite for rookie
of the year voted by peers

http://www.nba.com/news/features/john_schuhmann/2016-17-nba-rookie-survey/


I thought everyone would say Ben Simmons.
Obviously because he is the heavy favorites, I think this guy is really good and he might be the next Lebron James in my opinion, what do you think guys? Is this guy can compete with Lebron James?
1979  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 31, 2016, 12:31:45 PM
If it was me, I'd save about 50%, invest 25% in Bitcoin, and invest 25% in Gold. This is because the 50% you save would be 'safe', but the investment has the potential to grow, or not do so well.
That a good idea where you save your 50% of profit and then the rest 25% are you are going to invest it with bitcoin, but if you are going to invest it in another coin (alt coin) is much better than gold for me , because it easy to gain more profit in trading because some of alt coins are pumping , investment theres no guarantee on it Smiley

Gold will give guaranteed returns in future but same you cannot expect from altcoin as if you choose wrong coin then you may even loose your investment in a single day.
Of course, but the question is can you afford to invest a big amount for a guaranteed profit. I think most of us here are living in an average life and we are not really a full time investor, we just find ourselves interested in investing because of bitcoin.
1980  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: August 31, 2016, 12:23:06 PM
I don't think there is anyone out there that does not spend their coins.  It is a currency and that is the goal of the overall Crypto world.
Yup you are right here, anyone uses their bitcoin for something and for some purposes only , where they can use it as a currency to do some activities like trading , investment , or gambling where they can make profit but some companies are using bitcoin now some investors too are using bitcoin and spending bitcoin to gain more profit
Well, not in all cases because it does not mean that when you are using bitcoin you will automatically make profit, that depends on the timing and there is a right timing for buying and selling your bitcoin to maximize your income.
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