It's got to be solo miners hoping to get lucky, because with less than 100 blocks found over the last 24 hours, a lot of luck is exactly what they'll need.  

http://explorer.cryptopoolmining.com/chain/DigiByte


BTW, if you look at the blockchain record, you'll see that there is no correlation at all between spikes in diff (multipool attacks) and when the blockchain freezes - the freezes happen just as often, if not more often, with low diff values than with high diff values. Recent 24 activity shows an hour and a half freeze after block 134028 with a diff of 61.964; one hour after 134093 with a diff of 39.951; over and hour and a half after 134116 with a diff of 44.569. That having been said, sometimes big 2 hour plus freezes do follow spikes (see blocks 134226 and 134101 for examples); however, you can also find blocks found at high diff values that just kept right on ripping (relatively speaking of course) with new blocks found right away afterwards (for examples, see blocks 134060 with a diff of 73.664 and 134029 with a diff of 82.619). As I said, no correlation what-so-ever.

I think you're right, but that's not my point. I'm saying that MYR shouldn't help them at all.

I remember years ago talking to a friend about competition (and the threat of competition) to his business, and I still have his answer clearly engraved in my mind: "I'm the competition", he said. That was so profound and so correct that we stopped the conversation right there. There was no point going further, and one thing you can also be sure of, he would never have shared any of his business secrets either.

Let others come along and give you indirect marketing, but always be sure to make very clear who is #1, and who is an aspiring wannabe (especially when you've got some not too reputable folks on your heels).

I can believe it. I can also believe that he's extraordinarily talented.

My hope is that he's also very business smart and that he doesn't confuse charity with giving away the crown jewels.

He's worked, you all have worked, very hard (I'm very impressed with the "team" and community as well) and I hope you don't give it all away for free - or even for a fee. 

I've heard another dev from a competitor coin saying that they plan to do an algo change to something similar to Myriad and that "they're looking forward to working with the Myriad team".

I sure hope that's not true (or simply wishful thinking/hype on their part).

If someone wants to imitate or copy, make them do it on their own!

In the final analysis, I think we'll be able to count the survivors on the fingers of one hand, and it would be much more than a shame to be eliminated from that short list by someone you helped.

This is a DOGE eat DOGE world, and if you want to be able to help others and survive to do it again tomorrow, you have to know who you can help, and who you can't, and, sometimes, you have to say no.

The Myriadcoin Qubit total 24 hour gross payout before 1% pool fee was 680 coins at an adjusted groestlcoin 10 MH/s hashrate equivalent (in this case, the Qubit hashrate was about 55% of the groestl 'benchmark'). The block find percentage over this time frame was 101.85%

On the side by side mirror machine for Myriad-Groestl over the same time period the gross payout was 670 at an adjusted groestlcoin 10 MH/s hashrate equivalent. The block find percentage over this time frame was 114.64%

Why would anyone mine Qubit? The energy consumption is only about 7% more than Groestl, but does that justify just a few more coins? The machine is worked quite a bit harder than what you would expect from only a 7% increase in power use however. Many people have commented that with Groestl you can play a game while mining, and my testing shows that's not possible with Qubit. So with a lot lighter load on the machine, and lower energy costs as well, Groestl looks to be the clear winner, yet again.

P2P pool mining is by far and away the big winner here. THIS IS THE FIRST P2P POOL I HAVE LIKED!!! 24 hour payouts are now averaging 890 coins (at an adjusted groestlcoin 10 MH/s hashrate equivalent).

So the no-brainer here is to set everything on the Myriad-Groestl P2P using the traditional pool as a failover. I'm going to keep things evenly divided for another few days testing before going all in though.


(I'm not even going to bother testing Skein as I've read that same machine, same config results yield little over half what Groestl produces, and my math based on simple division of theoretical coins paid out daily by the network hashrate bears that out - not worth the time.)


BTW, anyone notice that DGB is still averaging less than 200 blocks a day. In fact, less than 100 blocks in the last 24 hours. They're beginning to recognize the issue, but they're still trying to convince us that it's due to multipool attacks.

Myriad-Groestl (MYR) Groestl 48 hour results

671 coin daily gross payout (before the 1% pool fee) per 10 MH/s (adjusted, real, groestl hashrate)

383 coin daily gross payout (before the 1% pool fee) per 17.5 MH/s (over reported hashrate)

It's not quite a 2x hashrate over reporting. I calculate that it is closer to 1.75, which is to say, there is a 75% over reporting of the equivalent groestl hashrate. Another way of looking at it is with a scrypt equivalent hashrate, which would be ~1,100 kH/s, or a ~3,300 kH/s X11 equivalent, or a ~500 kH/s scrypt-n giving you a .00229 BTC daily yield. The comparison coins I've mined with same machines/clones with exact same configurations are: GroestCoin, DiamondCoin, DarkCoin, VertCoin, ExeCoin, and DOGE (although DOGE is archive data since I haven't mined it for some time now).


The P2P pool took 36 hours to fully ramp up, so those results will be delayed once again.


And I've now got another “mirror” machine on Myriad-Qubit(MYR) Qubit.


Hope this information is useful.

24 hour results:

Actual gross payouts on http://myriadcoin-groestl.miningpoolhub.com before the 1% pool fee = 655 coins per 10 MH/s, just slightly under the What To Mine estimate. (My initial preliminary projections were off due to the inordinate amount of time for this PPLNS pool to ramp up.) Not bad. Just about .0025 BTC at current market prices.

The P2P results won't be ready until tomorrow since the payouts are STILL ramping up there (never met a P2P pool that I didn't hate, but let's give it a fair chance . . . at least there hasn't been missing payout periods . . . yet).

Then I'll have to give qubit a test drive . . .



BTW, looks like there are some serious types over on the MyriadCoin thread. Here's an example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483515.msg6976890;topicseen#msg6976890  But don't believe a low hashrate, low profitabilty coin when they try to tell you this is the problem behind their block discovery issue! (Remember, MYR block discovery is running clean and smooth, at almost 98%, lifetime, of projected. I point this out not to link it in any way to the DigiShield issue, but rather to call attention to the serious analysis going on over on that thread regarding another multipool/ASIC issue that should be of concern to all scrypt and SHA256D coins, and those that include those algos . . . for anyone who's technically inclined - not all is lost in this new information age! )

LTC results:


Actual block discovery is running at 93.5% of it's lifetime theoretical block discovery scheduling.

Last 90 days block discovery is running at 97.8% of theoretical.

Looks like the advent of ASIC has no impact at all on LTC.


Add: Is this typical? Someone who solicits help to research the LTC blockchain (in the technical support section of LiteCoinTalk.org no less) and gets no response from anyone? https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=19758.msg171038#msg171038

And I thought we had left the dark ages behind long ago and that now we were in the "information age"!!!  

Yeah, the deeper I scratch below the surface, the more I find myself asking myself why nobody else has done this type of analysis and come across these issues, and/or asking myself if I'm crazy, or both.

However, it's most likely a case of those "in the know" using their information to their advantage, and the lemmings doing what they do best, being lemmings.

My goal is to sort out which coins are profitable, have decent prospects for long term adoption, and are honest (perhaps with the latter being the key variable for all the rest). That's not something I'll be getting done overnight though.  

Hopefully we'll find some like thinking folks willing to chip in.


I just took a quick look (about half an hour) at the EAC block discovery numbers, and, while only ~84% of expected blocks have been found lifetime, they're right on the nose over the last 90 days, and since that's basically the time frame we're interested in since the advent of ASIC, we can say that, in the case of EAC, there has been no slowdown in block discovery as ASIC mining has increased. http://earthchain.info/chain/EarthCoin

Got to look at more scrypt coins this weekend, and more coins using DigiShield (got to make up that list first . . .).

Good to go here as well. Using Panda, and got the "all clear".

Good job! Thanks.



(BTW, I was using Norton until a couple of days ago, with no alerts. Then, yesterday, my shortcut said that the original program was missing - downloaded another copy, just to be sure, and as it would unzip you could watch it hit the GroestlCoin directory and then disappear. Panda was being very aggressive with it. Anyhow, just thought you might enjoy that tidbit, and thanks again.)

Looks like it's waaaay over reporting for some weird reason, both server side and client side (using sgminer) - Myriad-Groestl (MYR) Groestl. Actual real-time payouts per 10 MH/s are more in line with what GroestlCoin (GRS) is paying out (around 250-260 coins per day). That's mining on http://myriadcoin-groestl.miningpoolhub.com . I'm now also mirroring on the P2Pool at http://eup2pool.cryptopools.com:3333/static/ . Will let them go for 24 hours and will report back then with those results.

+1


You know what it says about you if you can't even get the little things right? What will people think about the more important things (like the coin itself) if they can't even get a proper wallet?


BTW, DropBox is another possibility . . . but I agree that it really should come from the official website and be properly signed.



No job, no matter how big or how small, if it's not worth doing right, it's not worth doing at all.

Think I'm going to jump on Myriad for a while.

No block discovery issues on this one! http://myriad.theblockexplorer.com:2750

I promise to do more work analyzing other coins' real vs. scheduled block discovery performance when I have a chance. Truth is I'm completely bewildered that no-one else has taken the initiative, or even seems to care. On the other hand, with the likes of what I've seen in the few months I've been getting to know the crypto world, I guess I shouldn't be all that surprised.

Still though, I'm aghast to think that this is a zombie ridden, con-artist's playground.

Me too.

How about another source that isn't mega.co.nz?


Add: what's interesting though is that it's not the zip that's identified, but the exe once unzipped.

By the looks of your intelectual capacity reflected in your posts, I think you might want to think a bit more seriously about who you are referring to.

So happy for you that you are so impressed by your knowledge of the existence of the urban dictionary.

How old are you?

That's even worse. Adding words to a quote = fraud.

You guys are now clearly showing your cards.

Now let's see if you go back and edit it out. (All original posts are safeguarded on the BitCoinTalk servers, if anyone would ever want to know.)


Nothing more need to be said on this subject. It's all been said, and it's all there for everyone to evaluate.

Best of luck to you.

That's sad.

The clear identification of a very serious issue is not a positive contribution?

You would prefer that the issue be ignored? Would that be positive to you?
(Along with all the questions regarding why it has been ignored and why you still want it to be ignored?)

Haven't had the time, nor does it look like I will . . . at least until the weekend. I was hoping to see someone else get interested in doing some analysis - we've got a good discussion now going on the DigiByte thread, so maybe someone will pick up the ball (I also posted a link to this thread since it might be more appropriate to do that kind of independent analysis here).


Thank you for that. I was blending and mixing things. Good to be clear about it.

 

Especially when the starting point is cut and paste, misleading, diversionary replies like this:


To extremely specific and concise technical issues like this:



I repeat: The issue began after Feb. 22. and has PROGRESSIVELY gotten worse.

• How would the issue progressively get worse if the number of multipools in existence is same as back then but with less than 50% the hashrate they had back then?
• Why wouldn't you look at a DigiShield-ASIC incompatibility thesis since the only thing that has also grown progressively since that date is the use of ASIC?
• To sum things up, why wouldn't you get serious with really troubleshooting the issue?
• And why were you not aware of the issue before now? (Why wasn't anyone aware of the issue?)
• Isn't this your coin that you intimately know? Don't you take responsibility for it?

Do I need to open a support ticket at Craptsy?  


We've also been talking a bit about this on the "Whattomine - profitability website with basic api" thread (. . . if you're looking for troubleshooting and controlled testing ideas . . . my time is limited to being a contributor, not a Dev, and not even a full time hobbyist - anyone doing testing/troubleshooting, please post your hard data and initial assumptions).
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=567730.msg7106535#msg7106535