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1981  Economy / Speculation / Re: Massive buy order only on Bitstamp. on: February 01, 2014, 12:27:58 AM
...snip...

https://blockchain.info/tx/8f947b8e05344dddf8294e54f07ae4a8cf995e06c20d0511d374d7e72faf29f8

(You have to have the excess digits too, I don't like having fractions of coins beyond 5 d.p.)

wow thats incredibly kind. thanks!
1982  Economy / Speculation / Re: Psychological bitcoin price on: January 31, 2014, 04:10:17 PM
Been looking at the yearly bitcoin log chart.......

It seems 1, 10, 100, and now 1000 were massive resistance and support areas. 

Back in Jan 2011 bitcoin hovered around 1, then exploded higher.

And it seems, Jan 2011 and Jan 2014 seem to be following a similar pattern.

Is it just a matter of time before the price explodes up to $10,000?

Is bitcoin really this predictable?

Every part of me thinks "it can't be", but time after time I have been proven wrong.
1983  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTCchina IS BACK, bank deposits restored!!! on: January 31, 2014, 01:15:07 AM
it is going down, the crypto oracle has predicted it

(this is confirmed)


See, now it looks like he's playing proudhon's game but you can't even tell.

I bet he's a proudhon alt.

A poudhon alt !!!
That made me LOL

I don't trust any of the alt-hons.  Most of them are little more than cheap copies of the original proudhon.


That sounds like bad news. Do you have confirmation of it?
1984  Economy / Speculation / Re: Confirmed Bad News Sources Thread - No FUD, Just Facts!!!1 on: January 31, 2014, 01:10:37 AM
The size of the news chain appears to be increasing now exponentially, this is a serious flaw in the protocol and is indeed confirmed bad news.

Ibtimes is a hugely reputable foreign source. They have verified that proudhon's confirmed sources are indeed sources. Furthermore they have established the legitimacy of user bitcoinlitcoinbtcltc as a primary source, I can confirm.
1985  Economy / Speculation / Re: Massive buy order only on Bitstamp. on: January 30, 2014, 11:07:34 PM
Provided they have sold to realise the loss... Wink

Hate to harp on about TA again, but this was a terrible buy in point from the point of view of whoever made the 2.5 million USD purchase on the Stamp, just as it was when my short got called as Bitcoin powered through 820 and right up to 836 on the back of a similarly large whale buy-in surge.

This buy in, was the mad surge up. Whoever made these purchases is a fucking idiot who is totally incapable of reading the market or they were trying to instigate something which has failed to materialise. The market creeps back up, but where is the volume? There is none.

If I believed that Bitcoin was away to soar and I had 2.5 Million USD that I wanted to get into Bitcoin, I have seen much better opportunities than this in the past few days.



tl;dr

My advice remains buy and hold. (for the longest time)


Just to be clear, only put in money that you are quite prepared to *never* see again. Always remember it could go to zero.
1986  Economy / Speculation / Re: Massive buy order only on Bitstamp. on: January 30, 2014, 08:23:40 PM
the abuse of capitalism corporatism

FTFY. Smiley

CONFIRMED
1987  Economy / Speculation / Re: Perfect Position Sizing | WSC Team on: January 30, 2014, 08:13:17 PM

So, the conclusion would be that, if you are a long term BTC maximizer (what user Rampion once called the "land grabbing" strategy), then it makes sense to sell your entire coin stash relatively quickly, on a "whim" so to speak, as long as you're conviced that the possible upside potential of USD/BTC (on a short/medium term swing) is identical on to the potential downside potential during that swing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qnd-hdmgfk
1988  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTCchina IS BACK, bank deposits restored!!! on: January 30, 2014, 08:05:15 PM

but but china banned BTC!!!!111  Roll Eyes
1989  Economy / Speculation / Re: Massive buy order only on Bitstamp. on: January 30, 2014, 07:58:03 PM
Provided they have sold to realise the loss... Wink

Hate to harp on about TA again, but this was a terrible buy in point from the point of view of whoever made the 2.5 million USD purchase on the Stamp, just as it was when my short got called as Bitcoin powered through 820 and right up to 836 on the back of a similarly large whale buy-in surge.

This buy in, was the mad surge up. Whoever made these purchases is a fucking idiot who is totally incapable of reading the market or they were trying to instigate something which has failed to materialise. The market creeps back up, but where is the volume? There is none.

If I believed that Bitcoin was away to soar and I had 2.5 Million USD that I wanted to get into Bitcoin, I have seen much better opportunities than this in the past few days.



I bought several times on the way from $32 back down to $2. It was really difficult to convince my lizard brain that I was doing the right thing, because I just kept seeing loss after loss rack up on every trade.

I also had quite a lot of fiat tied up in orders from $2 all the way down to $0.05.

By traders logic pretty much every trade I made for 6 months solid made me a "fucking idiot" because I bought coins that I could have got for much cheaper if I'd waited. I also subsequently failed to deploy all my fiat at the bottom. I then had to buy coins for far more than $2 on the way back up. These hard lessons amongst others received trading a wide variety of other instruments, teach you what the reality of trading is. Every post you make (like the OP here) fills me with a kind of anti-nostalgia. Non-fondly remembering saying, doing, feeling all the things you describe. I know I can't (reliably enough to be consistently profitable) read the market. I know most people can't. Maybe you can though, props to you.

Over that six months, when the price just kept going down, there were countless people just like you. They all extolled the profitability of shorting, how stupid I was for buying, holding was foolish bitcoin was dying etc etc

There arguments were far more compelling then, you know before the US recognised it as a legitimate thing and China said that it was fine for people to have it, and also before major online retailers accepted it, and before it had a market cap in the billions. You could almost believe these people had a case for it going to zero. They were entitled to their opinions, and they certainly gave me pause for thought.

Now, 2 years on, people tell me how lucky I was. I'm not sure they understand risk.

You know what maybe I was lucky, I was lucky not to listen to all the trading "experts" and instead *invest* in a technology that I believed at the time would be a game changer. At the time it was harder to believe it, but I believed it. Thats also why it was cheaper. Thesedays its easier to believe, and as such is less risky, and as such is more expensive. The point that is lost on most people as that the high price is exactly the reason why it is lower risk, and not the contrary.

My assessment at the time was that it was a (very?) high risk investment, and so I didn't bet the farm, it didn't help I was on my ass at the time, but I knew to not buy any would be a big mistake. I'm not sure anyone at that time really considered that counter risk.

People still don't see/understand it to this day (not the people here on the whole, however 'bearish' they seem to be!). People are focused entirely on the possibility of losing their capital. They entirely ignore the fact that they might be *forced* to buy BTC later for much, much higher. These same people are quite happy to enter into negative EV situations in all sorts of ways.

It should be obvious that I am not saying you should bet the farm because DA MOON etc. You should look at how much you value that $100 though, what the chance of losing it all vs the chance of it becoming $1000 is, and how much you value that $1000. The chance of it becoming $10k how much you value that. This is all personal but give you a basic idea of your risk profile and thus how much as percentage of NW you are prepared to risk.

Of course I understand all of this has no bearing on trading, because you traders aren't in it for the big bucks. You are just riding the dopamine high in front of the oncoming train of despair. Thats a fact for ~99% of traders out there (how many traders are there? how many trading legends are there? do the math).

I thought you might be interested to know why I think HODL is better, what some of the though process is behind it (as opposed to it just being an idiotic meme thing to do - I do actually understand what I am doing and why I am doing it). My "enemy" is corruption, the abuse of capitalism etc random guys on the internet - not so much.

So you do whatever you wanna do, but whilst you might think I am "fucking idiot" for what I've done (or rather, not done), I think dismissing it as lucky is a bit puerile. I can assure you that I don't think you are  a "fucking idiot". I think what you are doing is crazy, misguided and delusional, but people do all sorts of crazy things, and who am I to say they *shouldn't*

My advice remains buy and hold. (for the longest time)
1990  Economy / Speculation / Re: Massive buy order only on Bitstamp. on: January 30, 2014, 06:43:55 PM
I don't consider you an "enemy" at all (but it's telling that you think you have "enemies" here). I just think you are playing a losing game (trying to day trade bitcoin). Another fail: trying to guess the motivations of the various actors in the Bitcoin market, along with attempting to know how many of these actors there are, or who they are.

true dat
1991  Economy / Speculation / Re: Massive buy order only on Bitstamp. on: January 30, 2014, 06:01:09 PM
"Looks like an attempted ramp from Coinbase to me."
LOL

Whatever.

It was a totally inexplicable surge of buying power. 99% no doubt from just one hand. The last time there was this magnitude of buying power, bitcoin went from 820 - 835, and then right down to 720.

That means whoever threw that 3 million USD at Bitcoin last time around was a fucking idiot and has lost a massive fortune.

Provided they have sold to realise the loss... Wink
1992  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin vulnerability on: January 30, 2014, 03:14:51 PM
LOL @ FUD Cheesy

Why not quote the parts where a 50BTC reward was offered for proof (breaking any one of 200k addresses)... which they still haven't claimed. Roll Eyes
I think someone who can exploit this vulnerability will suddenly take an interest in more than 50BTC.

If there actually is a vulnerability here, you can be sure someone within the community will find it and will claim that bounty. So far I'm not worried and I think it's very likely to be a bug within the script they're running for that test.
How do you know that this particular person will have the morality to simply claim the 50 bitcoin bounty rather than using it to access 12 million bitcoins and cash out as many as he can without getting caught.

I assume not only morally void people have the brains and means to find possible exploits. If there is a vulnerability it will probably not be found by just one person who can either decide to do the right thing and claim the 50 BTC bounty or hack multiple addresses (or both). Multiple people will find this exploit if there is one and I think it's quite reasonable to assume that at least one of them will be claiming that bounty.

A rational actor should do exactly as you suggest. The grandparent here is overlooking the fact that by compromising the protocol you compromise the value of any bitcoin obtained by using the exploit.

Whilst this is not a guarantee - criminals iz stoopid after all - it's a fairly 'self healing' process. 50BTC is not to be sniffed at thesedays.
1993  Economy / Speculation / Re: Obvious TA is obvious on: January 30, 2014, 02:58:01 PM


OMG ITS BREAKING OUT THE WRONG WAY.

This is terrible news. Mtgox is a good japans foreign source. So this is verified and confirmed.
1994  Economy / Speculation / Re: Have any of you prepared "Victory Speeches" yet for when Bitcoin goes $10k+ on: January 30, 2014, 02:57:10 PM
Mine goes like this.

"I'd link to thank myself for HODLing, and mtgox for not FODLing."
1995  Economy / Speculation / Re: Obvious TA is obvious on: January 29, 2014, 05:49:36 PM
But have you considered the impact of all the recent confirmed newses?



Accepting this as confirmation of downward trend. Foreign sources will verify this.
1996  Economy / Speculation / Obvious TA is obvious on: January 29, 2014, 02:40:54 PM


HODLing because i don't  mind either way Cheesy
1997  Economy / Speculation / Re: Confirmed Bad News Sources Thread - No FUD, Just Facts!!!1 on: January 29, 2014, 03:09:30 AM
razorfishsl,

Please double check your translation, as it seems to be in disagreement with sources which are not only verified, but also confirmed.

Thanks.

This is a good source, and verified, as well as confirmed to be a source. Several more confirmed news have already been mined on top of the original confirmed bad news, from other good and verified sources around the world, so it is clearly the authoritative news chain meaning any other news mined on the unconfirmed news is invalid.
1998  Economy / Speculation / Re: Confirmed Bad News Sources Thread - No FUD, Just Facts!!!1 on: January 29, 2014, 12:09:34 AM
After the bad news today about Huobi faking their trades, this just came in from a reliable thread on a Bitcoin Forum:

Bitcoincharts.com dropped BTC-e/USD?  

Now its seems that they list only BTC-e/EUR and BTC-e/RUR.  Yet Bitcoinwisdom.com still lists BTC-e/USD.

And they still don't list Huobi or OKCoin, but list BTC-China.  For technical reasons, or political?


BTCe trade data is likely faked as well.

Edit: Donīt forget that 20000 BTC are stuck in Gox and canīt be withdrawn right now. When these are going to arrive on Bitstamp they will probably crash it.
Sources:

http://thegoxreport.com/

I can confirm this will reward all SHOTR sellers
1999  Economy / Speculation / Re: Confirmed Bad News Sources Thread - No FUD, Just Facts!!!1 on: January 29, 2014, 12:08:55 AM
SPECIAL ALERT:  This is a special alert to all followers of only true confirmed bad newses.  Late this afternoon, Eastern Time, there was a confirmation breach, and some false good news was mistakenly confirmed by an unconfirmed confirmer.  Please ignore this news.  As it is good news FUD, and is not confirmed.

Please link confirmation and source as well as proof of the breach, otherwise the newses it considered to be confirmed and accurate!

Proof here, I have confirmed.

This unconfirm is confirmed by reliable and good sources. The alternate news chain fork is rejected. Please continue mining confirmed news on this good source block.
2000  Economy / Speculation / Re: NY Hearings - lets live blog this puppy : - ) on: January 28, 2014, 10:47:34 PM
Excellent. Thanks for the live blog everyone. Someone must have recorded this?!

go to the link http://www.totalwebcasting.com/view/?id=nysdfs its "archived"
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