This sounds like it would be a good option.

No receipt.  Eyes rolling = sarcasm.  Sorry.

It's alive!  My wallet is alive!  SB is alive...

80 batch5 chips refund received
Unknown refund request (I can't find my receipt  ), but probably around first week of September

Gracias

I'm with you (and many more), cardcomm.  You've been been calm and collected while being vocal, and as such I've lived vicariously through your posts. 

It's extremely frustrating to come in Monday morning, hoping to see some sort of progress from the weekend, and find no new posts of 'refund received', no email or post updates from sb, and no posts from people bitching.  It's clear that the life is being sucked out of this process.  Come on sb!

The google form for refunds doesn't provide any means for a receipt, which is too bad.  At least with an email I would have a copy of it in my Sent folder.    So not having received a refund or a confirmation yet, I sent an email stating I have submitted a refund request.

Correct me if I'm wrong, bu in the many words from SB, we haven't seen assembly refund instructions yet.  His statement above sounds a little like assembly refunds have been submitted.  "We will begin accepting assembly refund requests shortly" is what I hope that says.

Still waiting for batch 5 80-chip refund, SB update, and kingdom come.

I read every word published, understood the risk, am glad to get any refund (although not entitled to it) because I was prepared for the 100% loss of my btc, and am over it.  The chips didn't come in, the K16 doesn't work, and there's a fully prepped assembly line ready to do nothing.  We're all let down, not least of which is the organizer.  I imagine SB would do things differently next time.  I was pining how this mining scheme is a unique business that people are glad to foot the initial start up costs for someone else's business, even with the threat of complete failure and no refunds.  Few think BFL was right in doing the same thing, and the chorus of 'never presales ever again' grows from customers and providers.

It's unsettling to think the 'crowd sourced' funds for this massive project somehow are to be consumed for the good of the project with nothing to show for us.  We didn't pay an assembly set up fee, we paid an assembly fee.  It's a bizarre business model to take customer funds to prepare for a production run that doesn't mature, then tell customers China can't supply the last part so they're out of luck.  Granted, nonrefundable setup fees are typical with many products--but they're separate fees and the customer commits knowingly.  Meanwhile, the business has what we're led to believe is a nearly complete production line for future customers.  We are now invested in the production line that future customers will pay for a product with lower setup costs (since we already paid for the setup costs).  That could mean more profit for steamboat on future products.

Steamboat made decisions for his business without consulting those who funded his coffers.  If consulted, who knows what we may have decided.  I would have said don't spend our funds preparing for assembly, I'll risk longer assembly time and secure a 100% assembly refund if the deal goes south.  Instead steamboat spent our funds, hoping for the best, which typically is a business expenditure/risk.

It's a solemn situation and I'm not going to make any demands outside of the refund being offered. I imagine steamboat, yufi, BFL and everyone else involved in paying for vapor products has learned a lesson (or ten).  I've submitted full chip and assembly refund requested from batch 5. I'll use the heat sink as a business card holder.

Regardless, thanks for the effort, steamboat, et all.  A monumental attempt was made.

Perhaps this sentiment is being used to keep more orders unrefunded.  No updates, unknowns, and uncertainty is preventing some refunds being submitted.  I can't see the entire assembly cost being lost--if it were, what would the assembly crew be paid with when/if the chips come in?

The chip only folks may have found their relief, and the build folks may be the next chorus of "where's our update"?  It has been quiet around here for two days...

I need information regarding the potential refund of build expenses before I can make a decision on chip refunds.

I've written four responses to this recent situation, but canned them all.  Each grew with greater disdain than the last.  But I keep holding out for more details as to what SB's position is, which naturally adds to the negativity towards him.

Like alfabitcoin, I have 80 chips (batch 5) with full assembly, and am considering a chip refund.  Unfortunately, the bulk of my 'investment' is in assembly.  The assembly costs should not be a complete loss if there is no assembly.

As a member of a group buy, I think the only legal recourse would be against the group buy organizer.  After all, we don't have receipts for the huge purchases.  And depending on one's investment size, legally it might just end up in small claims court.  Talk about blowing Judge Wapner's mind!  The group buy organizer is the one who would have the economics of size to pursue Avalon.

I can get it done with MSI Afterburner, but it's unstable and requires much babysitting.  I just couldn't get it to stick, so I said F' it.

That really is a P.O.S.!  Gawd....

Gigabyte for one, uses serial number for warranty.  They don't asks for a receipt or personal info to verify the warranty.  The SSN has it all.  So yes, it transfers painlessly.

I've been admiring this about the BTC community since day one.  It's nuts what some people are able to do in this economy.

Have you tried the 'restart cgminer if shares haven't changed in 10 minutes'?  Works for me--at least in the context you've described, at a high level.  Good luck...

The inquiries are mounting....