So, you are the one and same person? - Daniel tells me he's willing to make a video about it with himself in it, and I call him on it, and then you, Vlad2Vlad, answer me with "Fine"..

I'd be happy if you both made vids about it and show your faces, if you really think you got nothing to hide.

It's too easy for you to just accuse me of being deliberately misleading. That's not at all my intention. I think I made some VERY valid points in my long post - points you should care about if you're a truth seeker, which you indirectly claim yourself to be. Stop bashing Twitter for allegedly closing your account for "speaking the truth", when you can't/won't even address simple logical issues - as the ones I mentioned. I think you should address them - you seem like a guy with a lot of leisure, so why not?

Why for instance does the PCI DSS 3.2.1 advise NOT to use SSL at all, while you claim that SSL is the only one that can be used in compliance with it? - Can't you see that there's a 100% contradiction right there, that you HAVE to address in order not to seem like a complete fraud? - If you really think I'm wrong, then prove me wrong.

And again.. What about the white paper that doesn't even pertain to I0C? - I0C doesn't have an existing white paper - if you think I'm wrong, then link me to their white paper - and NOT Zcash's old white paper from zerocoin.org. How hard can it be?

Trust me, I'd love this to be real, and I would just buy them right away without thinking about small swings. But something tells me that you're not being honest with us. And I won't let you scam people without warning them first at least.

And yes, make a video, please!

You don't even address the points I made - which I think are very relevant to this whole thing. It's cognitive dissonance 101. Try to stay objective.

The reason I wrote it, is because I fucking hate scammers. They make the world a shitty place - both IRL and online.

At least they should debunk me if I'm being so awfully wrong about everything.

Pretty sure this whole thing is a scam/pump and dump. So many inconsistencies. In the Medium article linked below, "Daniel Treccia" (Probably Vlad2Vlad) says that Open SSL is the only way forward if cryptos are to be integrated into Visa cards and whatever, since only that is compliant with the "PCI DSS 1.2.3":

https://medium.com/@danieltreccia/reminder-about-visa-mastercard-bitcoin-debit-cards-bd7db09b60e5

But if you read the documents on PCI DSS 1.2.3, it clearly states multiple times that SSL is very unsecure:

"Note that some protocol implementations (such as SSL, SSH v1.0, and early TLS) have known vulnerabilities that an attacker can use to gain control of the affected system."

"Note: SSL/early TLS is not considered strong cryptography and may not be used as a security control, except by POS POI terminals that are verified as not being susceptible to known exploits and the termination points to which they connect as defined in Appendix A2."

Source:

https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/documents/PCI_DSS_v3-2-1.pdf


Furthermore, Daniel several times cites and links to a white paper from zerocoin.org, and uses it in his argumentation. However, that white paper doesn't even pertain to I0C, but is instead the "old version" of Zcash, as they clearly state on their webpage:

From their webpage: "Zerocash, the protocol that succeeded Zerocoin, is being developed into a full-fledged digital currency, Zcash."

Here's the link to the white paper from zerocoin.org, which Daniel/Vlad2Vlad "thinks" (wants you to think) is the white paper of I0C (which actually doesn't even have a white paper):

http://zerocoin.org/media/pdf/ZerocoinOakland.pdf


And here's the articles written by Daniel/Vlad2Vlad, where he talks about the white paper:

https://medium.com/@danieltreccia/jeff-garziks-met-comes-from-the-zero-i0-address-d3ca6d8613c2

https://medium.com/@danieltreccia/the-real-bitcoin-i0c-hash-160-matches-dvc-public-key-output-to-bitcoin-8d6262f2c9e2

I like how he in one of the articles writes something to the effect of: "Nobody reads white papers nowadays" - while he himself brings up an entirely different white paper in several articles, that doesn't even pertain to I0C. Wakey wakey! Cheesy

And then there's the similar Hash 160 he talks about (ba507bae8f1643d2556000ca26b9301b9069dc6b) :

I might not be a dev, programmer or even a miner, but I'm not an idiot. Since I0C and BTC are being merge mined, it should be logical that there's a correlation between some hashes, addresses and what not. The two chains have to somehow communicate/work together in order for merge mining to be possible. So there's nothing weird about that at all.

And then there's the unsecure  https on izerocoin.org - I'm not gonna download and/or unzip anything from that page, and neither should you guys. The wallets probably contain viruses etc. so Vlad2Vlad or whoever is also behind this (could be more people), can install keyloggers and what not on your computers, so they can drain you totally. Be careful.

To all you potential victims out there - think about this: BTC has existed for almost 10 years now.. Isn't it a bit weird that none of the brilliant minds, or big miners or anyone at all have discovered this, if this was actually true? It's a bit like the Flat Earth theory.. Just random numbers and a lot of mumbo jumbo and buzzwords, but no actual substance - and then unknowing noobs only scratching the surface fall for it and pump the coin, and Vlad2Vlad will of course then dump it on them.

I also fell for it (Yes, I'm also a noob), but quickly got a bit suspicious, since it's too good to be true, so I started digging into it. Fortunately, I was able to sell at a small profit. 

Pretty sure this whole thing is a scam/pump and dump. So many inconsistencies. In the Medium article linked below, "Daniel Treccia" (Probably Vlad2Vlad) says that Open SSL is the only way forward if cryptos are to be integrated into Visa cards and whatever, since only that is compliant with the "PCI DSS 1.2.3":

https://medium.com/@danieltreccia/reminder-about-visa-mastercard-bitcoin-debit-cards-bd7db09b60e5

But if you read the documents on PCI DSS 1.2.3, it clearly states multiple times that SSL is very unsecure:

"Note that some protocol implementations (such as SSL, SSH v1.0, and early TLS) have known vulnerabilities that an attacker can use to gain control of the affected system."

"Note: SSL/early TLS is not considered strong cryptography and may not be used as a security control, except by POS POI terminals that are verified as not being susceptible to known exploits and the termination points to which they connect as defined in Appendix A2."

Source:

https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/documents/PCI_DSS_v3-2-1.pdf


Furthermore, Daniel several times cites and links to a white paper from zerocoin.org, and uses it in his argumentation. However, that white paper doesn't even pertain to I0C, but is instead the "old version" of Zcash, as they clearly state on their webpage:

From their webpage: "Zerocash, the protocol that succeeded Zerocoin, is being developed into a full-fledged digital currency, Zcash."

Here's the link to the white paper from zerocoin.org, which Daniel/Vlad2Vlad "thinks" (wants you to think) is the white paper of I0C (which actually doesn't even have a white paper):

http://zerocoin.org/media/pdf/ZerocoinOakland.pdf


And here's the articles written by Daniel/Vlad2Vlad, where he talks about the white paper:

https://medium.com/@danieltreccia/jeff-garziks-met-comes-from-the-zero-i0-address-d3ca6d8613c2

https://medium.com/@danieltreccia/the-real-bitcoin-i0c-hash-160-matches-dvc-public-key-output-to-bitcoin-8d6262f2c9e2

I like how he in one of the articles writes something to the effect of: "Nobody reads white papers nowadays" - while he himself brings up an entirely different white paper in several articles, that doesn't even pertain to I0C. Wakey wakey!

And then there's the similar Hash 160 he talks about (ba507bae8f1643d2556000ca26b9301b9069dc6b) :

I might not be a dev, programmer or even a miner, but I'm not an idiot. Since I0C and BTC are being merge mined, it should be logical that there's a correlation between some hashes, addresses and what not. The two chains have to somehow communicate/work together in order for merge mining to be possible. So there's nothing weird about that at all.

And then there's the unsecure  https on izerocoin.org - I'm not gonna download and/or unzip anything from that page, and neither should you guys. The wallets probably contain viruses etc. so Vlad2Vlad or whoever is also behind this (could be more people), can install keyloggers and what not on your computers, so they can drain you totally. Be careful.

To all you potential victims out there - think about this: BTC has existed for almost 10 years now.. Isn't it a bit weird that none of the brilliant minds, or big miners or anyone at all have discovered this, if this was actually true? It's a bit like the Flat Earth theory.. Just random numbers and a lot of mumbo jumbo and buzzwords, but no actual substance - and then unknowing noobs only scratching the surface fall for it and pump the coin, and Vlad2Vlad will of course then dump it on them.

I also fell for it (Yes, I'm also a noob), but quickly got a bit suspicious, since it's too good to be true, so I started digging into it. Fortunately, I was able to sell at a small profit.  

From what I can see here - http://mapofcoins.com/bitcoin - I0C is a clone of IXC, which is a fork of BTC.. So how can a clone of a fork of BTC be the "root" of all BTCs?

And in case I0C and IXC is essentially the same, shouldn't it still be IXC that is the real "root", since it's the fork and not just a clone of a fork?

And then again.. How can a fork of BTC be more real than BTC? What about the pre-IXC era then?

Not a programmer, so would be nice íf some of you could give me some answers.

I hadn't heard about all of this until today when I stumbled upon one of Dan's Medium articles. Truly fascinating stuff, although I'm not a programmer and only understand some of it. But loaded up the bags a bit after having read half a dozen of the Medium articles. Numbers don't lie, so I'm in.

By the way, I also find it very convenient with the timing of the 21e800 block and the beginning of the blocks with "lock time". It's only 501 blocks apart. What are the odds of that?

But Dan.. If you really want to spread the word, maybe you should try to contact some of the big and more serious crypto youtubers. They have big audiences, so they can get the snowball running. For instance "Ivan on Tech", who's not only a crypto enthusiast, but also a programmer. I'm 100% sure he'll find it extremely interesting and will make some videos about it.

Have a couple of questions though.. What is the downloadable size of the I0C blockchain? And do I need to move my I0C from topia to the wallet in order to not miss out on anything?

Best regards.

Bought 2500 eBTC dirt cheap yesterday. I think a lot of noobs will fuck up when BTC forks and then think this is the new BTC gold, and thus it will pump.

Lol.

I completely agree. The tangle is a smart invention, but the foundation is being run by inept and very arrogant people. That's why I'll be on the look out for other tangle coins - the team at MIT just exposed the security flaw in the Curl. So it was replaced. We all know that the "security flaw" was the trap CfB laid out. Now that's gone, and the IOTA clones will soon flood the crypto world - and IOTA itself won't stand a chance with that dev team. Much more competent people/other teams will take over. I have no doubt about that.

I just dumped my IOTAs. Not going to support this joke of a team.

The IOTA founders, David Sønstebø and Dominik Schiener are just two emotional wrecks - and not least megalomanic narcissists. They ban people for literally nothing on the slack, while they themselves swear all the time and openly call people "retards", among other things. They think they're kings and that the rest of us are mere peasants. Many of us have noticed that.

You simply can't ask one slightly critical question or disagree with them in any regard, unless you want to get sweared at and then subsequently banned. David has furthermore admitted that he is a marijuana addict, which also expresses itself in his attitude towards other people, and not least IOTA's partnership with the scamcoin "Paragon". Don't trust an addict.

They keep on making promises, but nothing ever happens. Also see their github - really not looking good, no progress at all lately. Plus they hang out on the slack a lot of the time, which just tells me that they're not at all working as hard as they should be. It's all promises, but no action. Don't be like me and believe all their empty promises. It all looks so good in the beginning, and the breakthrough seems to be just around the corner, but nothing happens. They're full of it.

Then they try to blame it on the investors when we ask where the results are (not in terms of price) - almost as if they expect investors to actively participate in the development of the project for free. Would you invest in for instance Apple and then work for free for them? - No, you invest, and then you expect them to work for you, because you trusted them with your money. It's not the job of an investor to be an active part of the development. Never has been, and never will be. They want people to work for them, but they refuse to pay them. But of course David laughs in his usual arrogant manner when he's being told that. Cause he's better than the rest of us, remember? - David is the all-knowing king, and you're just a retard. Never forget that.

I can't imagine any big corporation wanting to partner up with them - and none have so far. They only "test" it, they claim. However, with the extremely arrogant attitudes of David and Dominik, plus their non-existing marketing strategy, they will fail. Imagine David at a meeting with serious investors? Haha. Imagine a CEO of a large company finding out how David talks down to his investors?

I have no doubt they will fail. Mainly because of David. Just listen the to radio interview he gave a month ago or thereabout - it's on youtube. So much swearing, and the inner narcissist just shines through. He can't hide his inner asshole behind his big beard, although he tries to.

Exchanges don't even want to list it. It could be done in no time. I have talked with programmers who've told me they don't understand it either, because it would take less than 24 hours for them to write the code necessary for an exchange listing. There's really something fishy going on regarding IOTA. It's always "soon".

I initially believed in IOTA, but I've lost all faith in it, the more I've learned about the devs. Mainly because of the extremely childish behavior they exhibit. Not a team I want to throw my money at, so I decided to cash out. A good technology or business idea is worth nothing when the team behaves like 12 year old boys. I lost all faith in their project, and I will do everything I can to make other people realize that too before it's too late for them. They are liars, narcissists, and possibly also very elaborate scammers.

CfB talks about traps in the IOTA code, so that other people can't just copy it and feel safe that it won't get "nuked" at his will, as it's been said. So ask yourself this question:

How many more "traps" and backdoors can't he have put in the code? - They'll probably open a backdoor at some point and steal people's coins. I have no trust in them. And don't fall for their "open souce" - cause if it's possible to make a trap without other people being able to spot it, then it's possible to make any trap/backdoor. They're narcisissists - it's so self-evident. Just join their slack and watch it for a day. It's insane. They really think they're superior to the rest of us. Don't ever trust narcissists, cause they will mess you up. Have that in mind, always.

Besides that, the trap has been found, which makes way for a lot of IOTA clones the coming time - projects that will have way better, less arrogant, less inept developers. IOTA will fall behind soon. It's the first born stillborn.

My best advice is to dump IOTA and run for your life, cause it's a doomed project with that dev team. There are coins out there with much bigger growth potential anyway. IOTA's market cap is already too big for the really large gains. You're in it for the money, aren't you?

I won't be sorry, no matter how high it goes (which isn't really that high), cause I simply refuse to support such inherently narcissistic assholes. It's simply a matter of having self-respect, and I value my honor and self-respect way higher than any amount of money. Plus lately, I have come to believe more in other coins that aren't the tangle + dozens of empty promises on a weekly basis.

Getting called a retard and be banned from the slack is apparently the thank I get for constantly promoting IOTA the first 1½ month following my investment - until I started getting suspicious the last two weeks and started asking just slightly critical questions. I will flood bitcointalk, other crypto forums, youtube, twitter and facebook with anti-IOTA articles and comments, just like this one. They deserve it, they asked for it, and the investors deserve to know the truth - so they can make their own decisions.

Having said all of this: Don't trust me. Just go to their slack and hang out there, notice all their empty promises, the way they talk to people, who they ban and what they ban them for etc. Google their names and read about them. Make your own judgement. I'm sure you will quickly be able to see exactly what I mean and feel disgusted by the way they behave.

Best regards.

Anyone wants to sell some tokens?