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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Don't wait big investor, We are investor on: October 20, 2018, 12:29:06 PM
We are investors. But small. I do not think that someone from the user on the forum will be able to allocate a large amount of investment in order to restore the market. Most likely, we simply support the market afloat, so that it does not completely collapse.
Well, that is why you should take the chance now before big investors start popping in later on. Someone who invested so little back at 2010 would also be in the category of big investor at the moment, no matter how little they bought back then.

I would say it is something that almost everyone should fix in their mindset, an investor is an investor as long as you are putting money into something, and what you put is what would determine the level at which you are able to make some pretty good profit in the long run, but for a market that is growing every day, it is something that will always be bound to happen.
22  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Bitcoin Setting Up For A Bull Run? on: October 19, 2018, 12:48:16 PM
I was watching some youtube videos yesterday, youtuber that isn't so popular and he is making the same predictions. I admire the analysis that he conveys but I'm not going to depend with those anymore. No one holds the market and what's going to happen, no one really knows and no one can tell. The same words has been heard few months ago and some already failed and stopped predicting. But logically, I'm sure that many of us are waiting for the reversal.
Generally, the bullish sentiment is actually brewing gradually, and we are even getting to see some news recently that would probably bring about more bullish sentiment as we move on to the end of the year till next year.

However, everything would still have to take time and we will most definitely get to see how things would have to turn out first, but for now, we just have to assume that the possibility of a bullish move is there based on optimism anyway. However, if we are really to look at it now technically, it is not actually something I expect until at least we see a break out and we are still currently on the verge of possibly seeing that happen either ways.
23  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto and automobile on: October 13, 2018, 02:09:16 PM
I'm just curious when can I start buying my dream cars with altcoins, I mean can huge automobile companies like Toyota, Ford and Nissan start accepting cryptocurrency as means of exchange
This is a sign that they want to hold more Bitcoin. Just like us, when bubbles explode, businesses will make good use of cheap to buy more bitcoins by selling cars with Bitcoin. That is great for us. We have the same idea and are going along with that big business.
Of course, and they will always be ready to go into an investment in bitcoin judging from what they have seen with the market generally so far. It is a great start seeing some automobile company already doing this and for what it is worth, at least in the long run when we start seeing real life usage in a big way, we of course will see most sectors around the world being affected hugely and positively with automobile being one of them.

We may not be where we want to be, but at least, we are not where we used to be and I believe there is a lot that will happen in the long run, but for big businesses, it is a very good start.
24  Economy / Economics / Re: How will blockchain affect the taxing system? on: October 13, 2018, 12:56:21 PM
"Like Donald Trump, many of the Forbes 400 acquired some or all of their wealth from their parents. These transfers of wealth pass entirely free of income taxes."

The measure of a well-functioning democracy is a tax system that fairly apportions its burdens.

Can blockchain and the inevitable virtual economy make the taxing system less disproportionate?

Transfers of wealth to kids or heirs is not entirely free of income taxes. It's subject to estate taxes which equal 50%+ of the value being transferred. This is precisely why the Trump family had to commit fraud to transfer their father's wealth to the kids. They couldn't even set up a trust that would protect all the assets from probate.

Blockchain can't change or circumvent government tax laws.

Blockchain can enable transaction tracking and transparency. Blockchain make payments incredibly fast and transparent. Blockchain can't ensure that people report their income accurately or truthfully.
Well, that last part is true to some extent, but we also have to realize that even if it brings about transparency and transaction tracking, wallets are not necessarily attached to one single person which makes the idea of not being able to track P2P transactions before they can even say it is going to be taxed will be a hard thing to achieve.

The only way taxation can be effective will be through the exchanges, and just like you said, the chances to even evade tax without reporting your actual income is always going to be there somehow with blockchain and in that case, there would be some limit for the government when it comes to taxation.
25  Economy / Economics / Re: Today is 10/10/18, the rise of the Phoenix according to The Economist on: October 11, 2018, 01:16:20 PM
Did anyone remember that today was the day of the infamous cover of the Economist released in January 1988 predicting a one world currency? Well today is the day:



I haven't been following the news, but I guess nothing relevant happened. Perhaps it marks the start of the bull run? would be cool isn't it. Well for what is worth, the bitcoin all time graph is looking good, it's becoming nice and flat, just like when the bear market in after the MtGox crash ended.
I honestly think it is incredible that people are still remembering this. It should have been long gone and forgot already. Can't believe it keeps coming up constantly every year or two. Since today is the day nothing will happen I hope people will start forgetting this and we can move on.

There is nothing special about today and nothing will happen today, it is exactly the same as the 2012 year would be end of the world (well I doubt we are living since 2012, it has been all downhill since than tbh) yet no big deal happened in 2012 and we are still living, this will be the exact same scenario.
26  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is happening with cryptocurrency ?? on: October 10, 2018, 12:44:56 PM
Actually what happened to the market and BTC now? then what about the Altcoin situation that also follows a graph that continues to decline.
I think I have to stay calm for a while and spend time with my family at home.
 Lips sealed Lips sealed Huh
The crypto world right now is a deep sleep and many people moved their investments out of bitcoin which means the volume for everything is quite low. The ethereum deal is mostly caused by all those ICO people cashing out their funds from the ICO they collected which makes ETH drop very far away, while bitcoin is not always dropping, the slight increases in bitcoin causes altcoins to lose value against bitcoin even if they do not lose that much with dollars.

I honestly believe that people who cash out their small coins first trade those coins to bitcoin and cash out later, which causes bitcoin to have 1 in and 1 out but the altcoin to have only 1 out, which causes altcoin to drop but doesn't affect btc.
27  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day trade on: October 09, 2018, 03:39:56 PM
As far as I know, Monero is pretty badass and cool for daytrade. It has pumps sometimes, and it goes down too. But when I say pump, i don't mean the times when every coin go up. Monero seems to have some weird pumps and I think this could be about private-coin thing and black market money trades etc. Just check it.
Yeah, Monero is actually good for day trading, but it is not only Monero. Moreover, the thing with day trading is just for you to have a pretty good strategy so you can know how to go about your day trading and that is one thing a lot of people do not have and no matter the market you attempt to day trade, at the end of it all, you would still be losing a lot.

I personally day trade 3 markets, Siacoin, Monero and Binance coin but one thing is that even though you attach the same strategies to them, you still have to consider a lot when it comes to applying those strategies and making good use of their fluctuations and without knowledge you will wish you did not even attempt to day trade.
28  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bottom of BTC descending channel is 3000$? on: October 09, 2018, 12:19:59 PM
The price of Bitcoin was tested several times this year around $ 5 k and always bounced back, so I do not believe
that the price  will go below that level. But if it happens and we face $3 k  for me it will be a call for action to all in.
In my view there is no bottom price for bitcoin because the price is not stable and there is huge volatility in the price. Nobody can say anything about the coming price of bitcoin. The difference between the predictors about the price is more than $40000. Therefore I want to say that there is no bottom price for bitcoin. It may reach or even drop in the coming days.
I think bitcoins dip from now on is 5.8k , I do not think we will ever go down to 3k and it will not be reached anytime in the future ever. Now I may be hyping bitcoin a lot but lets take a look at the miner fees and the number of people who have spent thousands of dollars on mining these stuff, considering they have spent thousands of dollars even millions of dollars into mining I doubt they will be fine by selling for loss and they won't sell for slight profit neither which means they will require it to be high and won't sell under certain price. In 2020 it would be halving so the price will definitely not see 3k after that too.
29  Economy / Speculation / Re: i think its the time to bitcoin to raise ? on: October 09, 2018, 11:20:39 AM
i think the value of the coin will increase in few days bcoz the last year at the same time the value of the coin was about $18000  dollars
so i have a positive feeling of increase of the coin 
I agree, I think it is definitely time for bitcoin to raise as well however it is not raising at all and I do not
know why. I think we need another bull run very soon but for that to happen we need to get the big whales and the institutions behind our back so they could help us out as well.

There are very few people that can make a difference all by themselves but if we all try to push the price higher and get the billions of dollars whales and companies have towards buying as well than the price will increase a lot easier. However if they keep trying to cap us off and keep us from going up than we can't fight them as individuals.
30  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Who do you think take biggest responsibility on making the prices fall? on: October 08, 2018, 01:21:19 PM
It's undeniably stormy moments when the coins' prices are falling and still not making a significant bouncing recent days yet .
This is just an analytical question, not blaming nor scapegoating:
1. Who do you think have biggest responsibility on making those prices fall and keep down?
Whether the governments, the big sharks (some players with huge capitals), or purely the market?
2. Whether the ones who made it fall is the same one who keeps it down or not?
3. And what to do make them bounce again, although slowly?

Please remember, this is just an analytical question. Not supposed to blaming nor scapegoating any party. Smiley
I think the cause is the panicers. People who panic during the crisis times have caused the price to go down a lot. I have seen a reddit post where a dude took out a 150k loan just to buy bitcoin while it was at its highs and when it dropped dude freaked out. That dude is basically the reason why the prices fall, because people like him who do not have money to invest suddenly start to put their money there even tho they know they will need the money.

As soon as it goes down a little every single one of those people take their money out to pay for stuff they initially had to pay. Because of these people the panic sell happens and the price goes down a lot.
31  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Will the bull run return this December? on: October 08, 2018, 11:53:27 AM
Last year we had a great run. Despite the downs in the beginning of this year, I still believed that by the starting of October, the will be a good run, but I don't see anything of significant improvement. What do you guys think?
Just because there was a bull run in december last year doesn't mean there will be another bull run this december too. Check out the prices in 2016 december, check out 2015 check out 2014 2013 2012. Was the price low and increase highly in december in all of those years? Or was it just last year? I know most people joined last december when the price went up and everyone got involved with bitcoin knows very little about the history of it but just because it went up last december doesn't mean bitcoin is something that increases every december. It is not like that, it moves when there is a big thing happening and that could be tomorrow or next year none knows.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: how to stay sane?? on: October 08, 2018, 10:43:46 AM
It's been a difficult journey honestly. As someone who doesn't really know how markets work I used to regret joining and investing. There have been times when I almost quit but trust me you, there's no thrill once you are out of it. It kind of grows on you. You just take it as a learning experience and move on. Just remember that future is rock solid and you are contributing a major role in building it. I hope we all do well in future and shine.
I really do not see anything difficult at all in this journey. It is a downtrend, it is a normal thing and for one thing, it brings a good chance to be getting in at a very sweet price as far as I am concerned, and how you want to see it is left for you actually. The problem with a lot of people is that they focus so much on the short term and they tend to forget that over the years, this is nothing that is new, but at the end of the day, those who foresee the future to be bright and held on to what they had enjoyed it at the end.
33  Economy / Economics / Re: Apart from trading where else to use crypto? on: October 06, 2018, 11:35:48 AM
For me bitcoin is money. I use it whenever I need to spend money. So your question could be phrased as "What can you do with money?" As far as ICOs and alt-coins... Those are scams. So an ICO is used to get your money. That is what it is for and once you have them they generally have no value.

I like your straightforward thinking. But I don't think the idea of having decentralized applications and a utility token to run their platform is an utter mistake. However, what's likely to be a mistake is that these ICOs have shifted their focus from building a useful technology to building a trading instrument which in every case has a horrifying ripple effect on the whole crypto-digital ecosystem.

Bitcoin should remain as payment crypto or a store of value. Ethereum and other dApp developers should seek to create useful and usable applications. They should all stop fooling around thinking their token will become the next bitcoin, that ship has sailed already and now the spotlight should be more on the blockchain industry - this is still a phenomenon with a diverse potential.
Well, that reason you have given with ICOs using shifting focus from building a useful technology to just coming up with a shit trading instrument is the main reason it has been an utter mistake over the years and I totally agree with RodeoX. Altcoins have only been a distraction; even those without any idea just come up with whatever they feel like, without a product, just empty promises all in the name of trying to get rich from gullible people's sweat.

Sure, some altcoins may have been an exception but a larger percentage of them are shitty. Like he said, bitcoin is money and I have been using it to purchase for a while even if the real life usage is not enormous yet. I do not have anything against altcoins, and as long as someone somewhere feels it is right to give me their money so as to increase my bitcoin stash in the long run, then I am game!
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What number would ETH and BTC reach for this coming bull? on: October 05, 2018, 10:58:51 AM
I think that all the same, Bitcoin can grow to $ 30,000. Perhaps not this year, but it will definitely grow.
As long as it is not this year, which I totally agree, I believe in the years to come, bitcoin will most definitely grow more than what you have even mentioned to be $30k. The truth is that no one can actually tell exactly what the price of a market would be at a particular point in time, in essence, it just comes and the only thing we find ourselves doing is trading the moment at the point.

For now, all we can do is to be patient, see how the market is going to turn out to be in the long run and keep being optimistic, waiting for the best which I believe with mass adoption in the long run, we will see BTC and ETH doing very great.
35  Economy / Economics / Re: The basis of being a poor- how little or how big? on: October 05, 2018, 10:16:54 AM
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The basis of being a poor- how little or how big?

Awhile ago, there was a study done on infants which were born addicted to hard drugs.

Their final conclusion was that being born into poverty is a far more debilitating and crippling condition than being born addicted to crack or assorted hard drugs.

The mentalities, attitudes, conditions and values which lead to people being in poverty could be contagious and harmful to human development. And so being born into that environment and being in constant contact with those living that life could have severe negative effects upon a person's mindset, attitude and soul.

That's the best I can come up with atm.
I totally agree. Like they always say generally, you are your environment. On a normal day, you get challenged by the people you see around you either negatively or positively and since we know that poverty has a way of secluding those in that category into a particular space, we tend to see them accepting that life, believing that is their own fate and then move on with how they just see things.

It would really take someone who gets lucky, or was able to have this inbuilt challenging spirit to be able to get out of it, most especially when exposed to such environment from birth.
36  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: It can be useful on: October 04, 2018, 05:15:46 PM
I want to share some trading tips for the beginner, use the moving average in the trade and use the candlestick. First set moving average 12 and 21 and follow Candle pattern. Moving average 21 crosses to verify the market trend. When the candle closes by crossing moving average 12. Find out if the candle closes below under moving average 21 and find out the sell. Hopefully, a profitable trade is possible if you trade in a completely formal manner.


Nice strategy but how about stop loss and take profit area, where I can find the setting?. Your technical analyze need more modification specially to face sideways condition. This strategy can use if market have significant moving and this time is not. Next time please write all part so we can take decisions to take it or leave it.
Everyone will surely have their own strategy based on what they know, their knowledge of some of the indicators they have chosen to learn, and using those indicators to know how they should be reacting to a market at certain point in time, so in one word, there is no single strategy when it comes to trading. The best thing is to just find what suits you best, stick to it and use it to make your own successful trades. A lot of people tend not to be stable when it comes to using a strategy as they want to keep trying everything and that will always lead them to a lot more problem in the long run.
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: This is when I bet all into cryptocurrency on: October 04, 2018, 11:00:56 AM

Only invest what you are willing to lose. For me the main coins to invest are those that seemed to show promise are the ICOs with great organisation and idea, as opposed to the best marketing strategy. ICOs like Rentberry bring the ideas of long-term leasing to the blockchain and MeVu backs such coins for a good betting market showing their true value of their ideas on improving the blockchain.
Usually, the problem with ICOs is the fear of people thinking "will they actually follow up on these ideas?", or the commitment of the team to the project. To me, pick teams that are transparent on social media resume sites etc and this wont be a big of a problem.
It is that simple! Betting all into cryptocurrency as long as you can afford to lose it or see it go down in the short term in case things don’t work out as planned, is definitely going to bring about some form of emotions and your decisions being affected in this vein.

Usually, when it comes to the commitment of a team and a team that really keeps developing and is active with the community, it helps you to really know how far development is going with a project and that would always be able to inform your decisions as the case may be.
38  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you stomach the dips? on: October 04, 2018, 09:45:15 AM
Hold it if you are do long term trading. For day trading you should be use stop loss after bought any coin, and the stop loss level about 5% to 7% and take profit about 10% to 50%, for situation of crypto market now, doing day trading look more profitable because some altcoin was push from the bottom.
Normally, stomaching a dip will always depend on your perception to the dip and the nature of the market in the long term and in the short term. Those who put so much of their attention on the short term are always prone to not see the dip as something they should not be bothered about and should indeed be taking advantage of but because they are so much looking at what is it they are not getting shortly from the market, the lose sight of the long term at the end of the day and that indeed is very bad. If you cannot learn how to trade and be ready to do it effectively, then the best simple thing to do as you said is to hold.
39  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Main reason behind crypto currencies red market in 2018 on: October 03, 2018, 11:20:48 AM
the reason that makes the price of bitcoin and some cryptocurrency red like this in 2018, there may be many people who sell their assets at very cheap prices. I heard that there was news that sold its assets last month.
You can see the news at: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-25/tokyo-whale-sells-230-million-bitcoin-in-mt-gox-wind-down
Normally, in every bear market, sellers are always more than buyers and we get to see it the other way round with a bull market. The thing here is that the market was driven hugely and speculatively last year and the result of that is what we are experiencing at the moment.

As long as the whales will always keep being in the picture, the market is speculative, and we have not yet seen proper real life usage, we will keep seeing the market being driven up and down as the case may be.
40  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will become of Bitcoin if the price keeps falling? on: October 03, 2018, 10:27:56 AM
The price has reached the bottom and it's not going to go down that much further, the only thing that you need to do is to have confidence that the price is going to recover, and unfortunately many of the people that invested in this market do not have that confidence and that is why there are selling their coins.

Many are still not used to what is happening in the market that's why some panic sell and some are just selling to buy lower as part of their strategy. Price of bitcoin will not keep falling if there are always buyers who are willing to buy. As what you observed, the market has been going up for a few days already and you would expect that others would be taking profit and some of those have bulk orders and when some people saw the big red canadle, others eventually followed to sell that's why it's going down.
For most markets, it is always something that should be expected. It is normal some times to see supply grow larger than demand based on certain perception of the market and how things are, and then in some cases, we will always get to see the possibility of seeing demand get more than supply and this is when we get to see the market move up accordingly.

it is just part of the market and all subjected to the law of demand and supply which I believe even as time goes on, it is something we will always keep getting to see except for the volatility reducing on the way up and as we see real life usage/
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