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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BCC] Bitconnect Coin - Decentralized Cryptocurrency on: August 20, 2017, 12:38:24 PM
Hello,

I don't understand if a crash in BTC or BCC become (for example, It drops to $ 1), the service continues without problems since it benefits from trading ?
If I put 100$ at xx time, we get 100$ at the end of the contract regardless of the price of the BCC and BTC stock exchange?

Thanks
I guess this will answer your questions:
https://bitconnectexplained.wordpress.com/2017/08/12/will-bitconnect-collapse-one-day/

Thanks for your response.

"But… if the trend becomes negative and steadily goes that way for a long, long time… probably it’s time to cash out."
Ok, but if we are in, blocked for xxx days, we can not remove the money. I don't understand.
Your invests are locked - true, but you can start cashing out your daily interests. The point is, you should not become too greedy - you should cash out once in a while, so that you get at least what you initially put in. Then, it's just pure profit.
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BCC] Bitconnect Coin - Decentralized Cryptocurrency on: August 18, 2017, 05:19:03 PM
Hello,

I don't understand if a crash in BTC or BCC become (for example, It drops to $ 1), the service continues without problems since it benefits from trading ?
If I put 100$ at xx time, we get 100$ at the end of the contract regardless of the price of the BCC and BTC stock exchange?

Thanks
I guess this will answer your questions:
https://bitconnectexplained.wordpress.com/2017/08/12/will-bitconnect-collapse-one-day/
23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BCC] Bitconnect Coin - Decentralized Cryptocurrency on: August 18, 2017, 01:06:46 PM
So when if I lend my coin, do I only get interest from the day it was locked with that rate or is the interest based per daily growth.
The interest rate is different every day. And you are paid everyday - simply multiply today's interest rate with the amount you have lended. Check it out at:
https://bitconnect.co/learning-center/bitconnect-bitcoin-price-volatility-software/
As you can see nobody guarantees anything here. There are days, that the interest rates are 0. But the average is like 0.93%
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BCC] Bitconnect Coin - Decentralized Cryptocurrency on: August 18, 2017, 01:00:22 PM
Top 10 wallets are holding 76 % of all coins in circulation... No more comments !

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bcc/#!rich 

Actually that's kind of surprise the individual addresses hold only that little. BitConnect should hold most of them to work fluently. If you don't understand how BitConnect works, how can you comment on it? In fact, you shouldn't. Get some knowledge:
https://bitconnectexplained.wordpress.com/
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BCC] Bitconnect Coin - Decentralized Cryptocurrency on: August 14, 2017, 10:23:52 AM
As I predicted this huge ponzi scheme will begin to collapse in a couple of days, because the price will not move any higher and there will be no more so called "investors" Like Bernard Madoff said  "All one great big lie"
Hahaha and this prediction is based on... highly professional trader insight, right?
As I can see you are real professional in scam promotion  Open your website offering scam promotion services. U gonna make good money...
Actually, other than you, I'm presenting the good and ugly facts regarding this coin, so that everybody can make a decision. Check out by yourself:
https://bitconnectexplained.wordpress.com/
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BCC] Bitconnect Coin - Decentralized Cryptocurrency on: August 14, 2017, 08:15:04 AM
So after reading the 90 pages of this thread for the last 2 days (yes I'm a bit crazy), so I could forge myself an informed opinion before deciding if this coin is really worth something or not, I can sum-up the facts, good and bad as follow:

   - The devs are unknown (but so were Bitcoin's at its beginning)
   - They didn't provide any whitepaper (Bitcoin's original whitepaper was very simple itself and didn't go into details)
   - The GitHub source page is a joke (only a few cosmetic commits and no activity/update)
   - However a lot of private dev has been going on (wallet clients for all major consumer platforms, very functional exchange with top security, smartphone applications for Android and iPhone, mining pool…).
   - They claim to be an open source platform but much of is completely closed…
   - The privately developed software is of high quality.
   - The main dev call himself Satao Nakamoto (no comment)
   - Devs acted unethically when they switched their lending platform abruptly from BTC to BCC to force people to invest in their new coin (it was in December 2016 if I remember well).
   - They do have a public blockchain.
   - You can find many "news" article about bitconnect but they are all sponsored press releases.
   - It looks like a Ponzi scheme, it smells like an MLM, and act as get rich quick scheme…
   - OP doesn't reply to scam accusation anymore (they did in the beginning but gave little proof to alleviate these accusations).
   - The coin is only sustainable if there is indeed a huge trading bot investing all the funds stored on their main exchange in btc/usd trading.
   - When asked how this bot was not taking any loss days after days, the OP answered that they save on past earnings to compensate for those bad days and distribute interest nonetheless saying that they do plan on improving their bot algorithm.
   - There is no proof of the existence of this "volatility software" but as a dev myself I can imagine it to be perfectly plausible, given the volatility of bitcoin and the amount of btc they have gathered it's totally possible to generate the income necessary to support BCC economy model without using new investors' funds directly to pay the old ones (this [promotional] video explains it).
   - They're listed only on 5 small exchanges (CoinExchange.io, Crypto DAO, Livecoin, Novaexchange, TradeSatoshi) besides their own that encompass 90% of the volume exchange.
   - When you invest on their platform you have to buy bcc using btc and then buy a lending plan in $ using the current market price of bcc on their exchange. The bigger the loan the bigger the bonus and the shorter the invested money is locked down.
   - After the lock-down period is over you get your deposit back in $, you can reinvest it directly or you can convert them back to bcc at the current market value.
   - When investing you get paid daily in $ that you can convert without fee to bcc at the market price as soon as you have $1. (The daily paid amount strictly follows the volatility software interest rate + any bonus obtained from the amount being loaned) .
   - You can reinvest what you earn daily as soon as you have $100 thus benefiting from huge compound interests over time.
   - The lowest withdrawal limit is 0.005 btc + 0.0007 fee
   - They still don't allow withdrawal of BCH (but allow deposits(!) - unless the withdrawal option only appears when one does have BCH to withdraw…)
   - They have a roadmap and achieved every milestone of it on time so far delivering new features and causing scam accusators to disappear from this thread one after another (but this doesn't prove much).
   - The value of the coin has increased steadily over the past 8 months.
   - People are getting paid so far so they do deliver (this doesn't exclude a Ponzi).
   - They have implemented an anti-panic system on their exchange ("volatility based circuit breaker") which was actually never mentioned in those 90 pages. (this is maybe why they avoid big exchanges…). This is quite innovative in my opinion and add self-regulation to the market preventing human emotions from destroying the currency.
   - Their ad campaign are very aggressive and they plan to do more according to their roadmap (this support the Ponzi accusations)
   - You can't buy anything real with this coin yet but they have been talking about a smart card and coming partnership with undisclosed companies. (so for now it's only speculation)
   - They have made it so that one would want to keep their BCC instead of cashing them out in btc, in many subtle and clever ways…
   - They seem to target small investors mainly (MLM campaign, very low investment entry possibilities, very low limits in withdrawals and transfers). Is it because it's easy to scam new investors or because they want to turn the table around? (Are the people behind it truly there for betterment of mankind and not to get rich themselves?)
   - From what I understand they want people to use this coin as a way to pay for their daily needs but keep the majority of their shares in the system for as long as possible. They designed this as a long term investment with supposedly guaranteed daily returns.
   - If bitconnect is not a scam the math tell that it would destroy standard economy as we know it… (taking all the money from the poor, investing it automatically and redistribute it evenly, in the long run money wouldn't be worth anything - is that possible? I might just be dreaming here…)

So in the end it all comes down to one real question: Is this trading bot real or not? This is what decides whether this is a scam or not… So this thread should focus on finding ways to answer this question. All other shady facts are not playing in their favor but apparently they clearly don't need to defend themselves given the coin current success so why would they bother? Maybe they just think that history will prove them right so they don't care.
What's clear though is that the people behind bitconnect.co are very clever in many ways…

I invested $100 to see how it goes (it was 7 days ago) and bought 3.5 BCC not currently invested. I still haven't decided if I want to risk more. But what I can tell from my short experience of their system is that they do have talented developers working for them so maybe this trading bot does exist but we should really focus on a way to prove that.

Finally some clever analysis! Great job. Also nice find with this volatility based circuit breaker - I wasn't aware of that - indeed it's another clever move on their side to keep the system sustainable.
One error though:
   - You can reinvest what you earn daily as soon as you have $10 (not 100$), thus benefiting from huge compound interests over time.
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BCC] Bitconnect Coin - Decentralized Cryptocurrency on: August 13, 2017, 08:44:12 PM
As I predicted this huge ponzi scheme will begin to collapse in a couple of days, because the price will not move any higher and there will be no more so called "investors" Like Bernard Madoff said  "All one great big lie"
Hahaha and this prediction is based on... highly professional trader insight, right?
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BCC] Bitconnect Coin - Decentralized Cryptocurrency on: August 12, 2017, 03:41:45 PM
It seems few people want to see Bitconnectcoin to go down, ever since the ico started people want to see the price to go down to 50 cents it already happen back then when dev team is not yet very active promoting and creating country affiliate from many countries but if you looked at it now people are making real money investing in Bitconenctcoin.

Yes, but it is a question - how long they will be making money?
As long as other people are willing to make money:
https://bitconnectexplained.wordpress.com/2017/08/12/will-bitconnect-collapse-one-day/
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BCC] Bitconnect Coin - Decentralized Cryptocurrency on: August 11, 2017, 07:11:55 PM
Just took a 10k loan, will enjoy my daily profits, and if it turns out a scam i don't give a shit. Remember, invest what you can afford to lose  Grin
That's the spirit! Either you lose your money, or the people who come after you lose their money. What could possibly go wrong?
Please stop repeating this bullshit. 90% of people just bark without understanding the basics of this coin. They don't even care, just bark, God knows what for. BitConnect is in no way a classic ponzi scheme. It's a brilliantly designed coin, a money factory. Yes I know, that it sounds like a classic ponzi but it's not - please take your time and read some facts regarding it. Nobody will ever run away with your money here. Nobody will ever be accused of something here. Why? Because nobody has to run away. This coin self regulates by the way ordinary currency market works - supply and demand are the key words. The only way this coin can collapse is the lack of demand on it/when the supply exceeds the demand. When can this happen? We mention that exactly in this discussion:

https://bitconnectexplained.wordpress.com/2017/08/09/update-i-give-back-70-of-my-referral-bonus-whatever-the-amount-you-invest/#comments

Now the question is: will this coin collapse? Of course it will! When? How a hell can I know that? Do you know when will USD collapse? What?! USD? Yes, how is it any different?! USD is just a paper. BCC is just some bits in the ether. Yet, you trust in USD. Although the same currency market rules apply to it. Although the government just prints it whenever they want! You say, there is gold behind USD (yeah right); I say, there is BTC behind BCC (yeah right). Make your choice.
Now, where exactly are we in BCC history at the moment? The collapse or rise? Just look at it's market cap trend and decide for yourself!
You know what's also the good thing? You will know exactly when BCC will be collapsing and when to withdraw your interests! How? Check out the discussion I mentioned above. You can find the basics of BitConnect also on that blog. - take your time, read and comment.
So just stop your hate and think for a second. The truth is, people are usually scared of shit they don't understand. I'm not saying I know the ultimate truth, I only try to analize the thing before I bark at it.
By the way, do I know who will be the biggest winner here? Of course the BCC founders! But what a hell is wrong with it?! You're trading bitcoin for a hobby or what?!
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BCC] Bitconnect Coin - Decentralized Cryptocurrency on: August 04, 2017, 09:02:56 AM
So did you guys got your Bitcoin Cash in your account from Bitconnect? I think they only can give you guys when the BCH is open for deposits and withdrawals on other exchanges, so they can buy elsewhere and put it on the Bitconnect fake exchange. Bitconnect can't distribute BCH to their users  because they don't have it. With fake BTC on the fake exchange platform doesn't get you Bitcoin Cash after fork, so that means they need to buy it somewhere. With this rate you guys get nothng until other exchanges are open for deposit and withdrawals for BCH. That could take a while. It's already 3rd day of fork and nothing has done by Bitconnect. Don't you think its weird all other exchanges that supported the fork already gave their users their BCH and you guys not? If you still believe it's not a pyramid scheme then you are to greedy and mislead by this huge scam

Also note: Why Bitconnect havent promote in China? In China you get executed for fraude, go figure out.
IMHO it's not a problem for them at all. The only moment that you store BTC on BitConnect platform is when you deposit or withdraw. All other operarions are on USD or BCC. So in fact these must be very small amounts.
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BCC] Bitconnect Coin - Decentralized Cryptocurrency on: August 02, 2017, 08:32:55 AM
Now what happen if all users going to cash out Bitcoin Cash? If half of their volume/order book is fake, means they wont get Bitcoin cash at fullness in their wallet. Means they are probably gonna be short 50% of the Bitcoin Cash after fork. My thinking is they will suspend withdrawals for Bitcoin Cash and put trading pairs like BCH/BCC or BCH/BTC lol. Thats their only hope to continue this ponzi scheme. They hope people trade their fake Bitcoin Cash for their Bitconnect coin or hope users wont withdrawal to much BTC because they dont have it lol. Now finally the cat is out there people will google who is the real and the fake BCC. So after some research they will not buy Bitconnect coin anymore  Grin
What a hell are you talking about dude? BitConnect doesn't do any deals with BCH. So what cash out/withdrawals are you talking about? Complete nonsense.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is so good about Bitconnect? on: July 31, 2017, 03:02:03 PM
If you want to know why it's doing so well and how it's able to pay all those interests, check out this blog:
https://bitconnectexplained.wordpress.com
33  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BitConnect = Massive Ponzi Scheme on: July 31, 2017, 02:50:15 PM
Why has there been almost no discussion on BitConnect?

Everyone seems to be worrying about one-off instances where some support representative at a large exchange rips someone off, but nobody is noticing the fraud right under their noses!

BitConnect is promising users a high, risk free, return provided by some computer algorithm. Intuitively this makes no sense. It is impossible to have only profits, and no losses. 91% guaranteed monthly return? Who actually thinks this system can last?

Nobody knows who the developer is, nobody knows what the bot is; yet, the coin has $341mm market capitalization as of today. Not to mention that the whole website is littered with Indian-tier spelling mistakes.

In other words, the rouge developer is going to leave with $341mm worth of BTC in his pocket, and without a trace.

One day the site will be closed, and everyone will be left with worthless BCC.

How can people be so foolish? It's obvious that he is paying old investors with the proceeds of new investors.

The referral program is sucking people in. It's a complete scam, and it will come to an end.

Get out of BCC while you can. Mark my words. This will go down as one of the largest heists in cryptocurrency history.


I'm answering most of your questions over here:
https://bitconnectexplained.wordpress.com

Even if it's a scam, it will be able to operate for a long time.
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BCC] Bitconnect Coin - Decentralized Cryptocurrency on: July 31, 2017, 06:50:43 AM
BitConnect explained - why it's NOT a scam:

Says the n00b account scammer lol.

Cheers, Julian (aka hes a scammer and this is a ponzi scheme)

Have you at least looked at what I have written? No! Why bother, right? I'm stating clearly, that there is a scheme - the difference is, that it's a very clever one! I've seen many of these and trust me - none have ever "computed" that well. I'm not saying the founders won't run away with our money - I'm saying, that if the foundations are so concrete, it will stay on the market much, much longer and the probability of anybody running away is just much lower. Now judge by yourself - it's a world of free choice, right?

https://bitconnectexplained.wordpress.com
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BCC] Bitconnect Coin - Decentralized Cryptocurrency on: July 30, 2017, 04:24:12 PM
BitConnect explained - why it's NOT a scam:

https://bitconnectexplained.wordpress.com/

You will find there the answers for the following questions:

Is it possible, that the coin offering such a crazy ROI (return of investment) is not a scam?

Did people, that invested in BitConnect and the associated lending business, get back the money they invested in and also get the advertised returns?

Is BitConnect a pyramid / ponzi scheme?

How a hell is Bitconnect able to not only pay all those interests but also pay such high referral commisions?!

If you like that article, join my network using this link!: https://bitconnect.co/?ref=Airstriker

Cheers, Julian
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