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Lumens has already started its rally - ahead of the fork and when all other alts are crashing! It's displaying really strong signs for the future and we cannot underestimate the IBM link - it signifies real world usage with a top top established player in the tech industry. This is where we want altcoins to be at.... Will we see €0.10 before the end of 2017? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) After the fork it's going to breakout big time!
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I checked the situation in bittrex and I think its just a whale playing game with us. Look at the sell orders. For every satoshi there is like 36 bitcoins worth of lumen on sale. Someone is deliberitly dumping the price down. Possibly to force weak hands to sell.
0.00000555 36.9334 0.00000556 36.9466 0.00000557 36.9530 ... (this goes on and on for many many pages)
Im guessing sooner or later the price will rocket again once this dumping game is over.
Can you explain a bit more please (for plebs like me!)? Why would they want to keep it low? Just to grab more at lowest possible price?? I think it had some momentum and it needs to build on that and reach ripple price levels and overtake it in terms of popularity among institutions that will use it.
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I have just taken a big punt on XLM at current price. I expect another pump before the end of 2018...hopefully a 50% gain. But tempted to hodl long term if good news keeps coming like the IBM collaboration...
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Now it's dropped - back to old usual level - is it a good time to buy again? Are we just going to see another sloooooooow rise and then fall back again and again?? I'm happy to hodl but it's getting frustrating
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So if you can buy nxt currently for about $0.07 and ignis will be $1.45 at ico, why not buy 100,000s of nxt now and sell all the free ignis just after ico?? This seems too easy!!! ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) 1,05 NXT = 1 IGNIS (until 21st Oct.) 1,45 NXT = 1 IGNIS (after that) Thanks, makes more sense now!! Trying to download the wallet to a windows vista laptop but won't work. Is it even possible with an antique like that? Do wallets exist for iPads???
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So if you can buy nxt currently for about $0.07 and ignis will be $1.45 at ico, why not buy 100,000s of nxt now and sell all the free ignis just after ico?? This seems too easy!!! ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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Ohhhh, I have 1100 NXT - how do I get free ignis??? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) You need to download the Wallet (Desktop or Lite) here: https://nxtplatform.org/download/then you deposit your NXT to your wallet and wait until the time of the Ardor Genesis Snapshot. You get 0,5 IGNIS for each NXT on you wallet. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Thanks so much!!! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I'm on it!
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Ohhhh, I have 1100 NXT - how do I get free ignis??? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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It's hard to know really. It seems to get support at its current level and struggles to break beyond the €0.24 mark (sorry I use euros as a reference). I'm tempted to buy more at approx €0.21/22 point and hope it finally breaks out! But these collaborations with well known entities (a la XLM with IBM) have to be a good thing long term surely!???
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Going to take a $1000 punt on this - what exchanges is it on? Kraken, Polo? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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If IBM just a software company going to use Stellar than whats the fun ? If it's being used by Banks then only it's worth it...
IBM supports, maintain lot of banks backend Exactly! IBM is a huge player with quite a bit of influence. They don't just make PCs and laptops any more ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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I really believe it is a good time right now. It has consolidated at this level for quite a while and looks good for the medium to long term. I'm holding on to mine and going to add quite a bit more as I think it's good value currently. No epic monster moon as the OP said.......but a strong upward trend over the next 6 months is probable.
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Maybe the USA will announce that Dogecoin will be considered legal money, demand will ramp up and the OP will be correct!
With Trump, ANYTHING is possible! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Even a $1 Doge! Lol
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Hmm... didn't see this one coming. There are better options out there for lending platforms. So far, I have heard a lot of negative things about Salt.
Could you elaborate please? I've been looking at this for a while also...seems to have good real world applications. I almost bought it a few weeks ago but luckily I didn't. But it seems to have found its level now and should rise? Or am I missing something?
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Where is this moon though???
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It is currently mooning! CHECK IT OUT FOR YOURSELVES!
What are you smoking??!!! Mooning? Not on your life ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I'm holding some xvg but there's no sign of any big gains right now.
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Thanks, just took a look at that. This is INTERESTING!! This is potentially huge as these guys are seriously talented at what they do. Gives real credibility to the project and they've come so far so quick. Now it could really moon...with mainstream adoption of crypto, ICN will really come into its own.
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Finally seeing some gains in iconomi!!! Does anyone know what's happening and how high can it go? Great chart for today but a long way to go to reach its ATH
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Just not seeing anything happening with the price. I expected it to have easily broken the €0.10 barrier by now but still quite a bit off....having my doubts
To those of you who believe it will moon....what's your expectation for early 2018???
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What exchanges is it available on?
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