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21  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] 9 Sold on: June 09, 2013, 06:50:34 PM
I'm 3rd on the list (24 shares) and I don't expect any privileges. As a group, we should share good and bad (what if one of the miners crashes...)
22  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] 8 Sold on: June 09, 2013, 11:09:11 AM

As more ASIC's come on line the BTC prise will fall as the new BTC's are generated too quickly / easily and sold cheaper so investors can get an understandable early return on their investments.


More hash power doesn't mean more BTC generated!

Apologies,
But this is why I wanted to get an in to ASIC so I could HASH with the big players.
Will the difficulty just keep increasing then?
All this heavy artillery coming on-line will have an effect on the BTC eco system
And my pathetic GPU efforts will no longer be worth the effort (I'm deliberating on this now, but I love being a Miner)

IMHO.

Blocks (=25 new bitcoins) are mined every 10 minutes (on average). Difficulty is automatically adjusted every 2016 blocks and - yes - it can decrease... (every miner's dream)
23  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] 8 Sold on: June 09, 2013, 09:53:12 AM

As more ASIC's come on line the BTC prise will fall as the new BTC's are generated too quickly / easily and sold cheaper so investors can get an understandable early return on their investments.


More hash power doesn't mean more BTC generated!
24  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] on: June 08, 2013, 08:59:53 PM
Soniq,
Could I just clarify that proceeds will be shared out prorata form ALL delivered Jupiters to ALL shareholders.

By that I mean if the first 2 jupiters get up and running first then will all shareholders be getting shares from that moment.

I presume that the jupiter number that a shareholder has contributed towards (e.g. 2nd on your documents) is purely for your own administration and letting us know where you're at.


Is this correct?

Many Thanks

I have have clarified this in OP. That priority will be given to shareholders in order they invested  in case of partial delivery.

My reasoning is that this GB is not an recognized equity/offering, but a combined effort to buy 12  Jupiter miners. Therefore your share purchase is buying a portion of earnings from one or more Jupiter miner.  .





Surely everyone should get a share of each and every miner that starts hashing, that is what a group buy for shares in 12 (or part thereof) jupiters is.
Otherwise we have just invested in a group buy of 1x Jupiter, of which you are doing 12 times!
 

+1
25  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] on: June 07, 2013, 08:15:15 PM
I buy 1 Share.

But what wrong with my Transaktion?
593294acae28fb963e90b5fbb1dbed34791700580fc869f495ecf669360f8af4

Status: 0/unbestätigt, über 13 Knoten übertragen
Datum: 07.06.2013 20:08
An: 1GW2ReZrFWuMn71xy4efB3sxViPC3iF8ES
Belastung: -2.25 BTC
Transaktionsgebühr: -0.000006 BTC
Nettobetrag: -2.250006 BTC
Transaktions-ID: 593294acae28fb963e90b5fbb1dbed3479170058

Just wait about 1 hour (to get 6 confirmations).

But there not my adress.

Thats not my Payment adress. I sent The Bitcoins from my Wallet. The Time in the I sent the BTC are rigth. But the Payment adress(es) not from me. I don't know whats wrong. I see the Transaction in my Bitcoin client. But I never use this adress to get Bitcoins.


What do you mean with 'Payment address' - yours or receiver's? Transaction info always states only receiver's address (1GW2ReZrFWuMn71xy4efB3sxViPC3iF8ES == soniq address).
26  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] on: June 07, 2013, 06:31:17 PM
I buy 1 Share.

But what wrong with my Transaktion?
593294acae28fb963e90b5fbb1dbed34791700580fc869f495ecf669360f8af4

Status: 0/unbestätigt, über 13 Knoten übertragen
Datum: 07.06.2013 20:08
An: 1GW2ReZrFWuMn71xy4efB3sxViPC3iF8ES
Belastung: -2.25 BTC
Transaktionsgebühr: -0.000006 BTC
Nettobetrag: -2.250006 BTC
Transaktions-ID: 593294acae28fb963e90b5fbb1dbed3479170058

Just wait about 1 hour (to get 6 confirmations).
27  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] on: June 07, 2013, 12:46:43 PM
Paid additional 4 shares:

215e5756f54e8fef93934f01897e4e85d342932ad5cb16f27a27be9bd13a7b33
28  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] on: June 05, 2013, 10:20:55 PM
Sent payment for 20 shares:

https://blockchain.info/tx/4baf2c24656311e04d6375fa068841fcd617aa4c5be6cb7e19b47e6638bce367
29  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] on: June 05, 2013, 08:52:26 PM
Interested for 20 shares.
30  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy]12 KNCminer Jupiter's [Live][Updated] on: June 05, 2013, 08:36:43 PM
So 30 shares per Jupiter... Are all 12 in <500 bunch or just 5 of them?
31  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KnCMiner Openday Wednesday 5th & Monday 10th June on: June 05, 2013, 08:05:40 PM
Startup = over-promise + under-deliver
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: June 05, 2013, 06:04:16 PM
Typing a few words to get <500 position few months ago and now selling the spot. Probably the most lucrative job in history...
33  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon #2 damaged on: June 05, 2013, 04:39:18 PM
Send me PM if you want to sell it...
34  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] 1 KNC Miner Saturn 175 GH/s miner + hosting (10 shares) LIVE on: June 05, 2013, 06:44:23 AM

I would say chances are:

5-10% scam
20% late delivery
70-75% delivery 'on time' and with reasonable watt/GH promise kept.

I would swap percentages in lines 2 and 3...

How many shares are still available?
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: June 05, 2013, 06:30:04 AM
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author=JollyGood! link=topic=170332.msg2373477#msg2373477 date=1370387934]


Yes, but how do you interpret the pre-registration number? Can you please explain?

You wait a week and will be told after the first 500 have accepted/declined their positions.

Then you will be placed in order of purchase.

How do you know that orders outside the "first 500" group will be queued according to purchase number and not the pre-order number? In my opinion, their explanation in 'News' section speaks differently: "Everyone already has their place in the queue so we are giving everyone 7 days to pay and maintain that place." (Not a word about first 500...). I have pre-order number >3000 and order# 250 - does it actually mean position ~750?
36  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: 120Gh ASIC for 2784$ shipping, hosting, group buy! on: June 04, 2013, 10:17:27 AM
Thanks for quick answer. Is there any information (or speculation) on how many devices have been ordered at Metabank so far?
37  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: 120Gh ASIC for 2784$ shipping, hosting, group buy! on: June 04, 2013, 09:22:14 AM
pidobir, could you please elaborate your 5% free for second services more in detail. Will you mine exclusively for yourself first 5% hours each month?
38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: June 04, 2013, 07:47:51 AM
Do I understand this correctly - the queue place will be based on pre-order number and not the actual Order # (from 'Order history')?
39  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon mining rig CLONES available for preoder (85+ GH/s), BATCH 1 SOLD OUT! on: June 03, 2013, 06:43:36 AM
I don't think it's a scam. With reference design available, it's not too hard to implement it. I give them 85% chance to deliver working machine in one month after Avalon chips arrive.
40  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 1000w enough for four 7900 cards? on: June 03, 2013, 06:20:12 AM
Depends on your GPU (overclocking) settings. I run my 4 x Sapphire 7950 rig undervolted:
VDDC: 0.993V
GPU: 930 MHz
RAM: 1250 MHz
at 845 W (~200 W/GPU). Hash rate (per GPU) is 565 kH/s (Litecoin) or 560 MH/s (Bitcoin).

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